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     skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 403 Registered: 10-2008 |
Pitchforks exhaustive P2K review of the music of this decade continues apace. http://pitchfork.com/p2k/ I know a lot of people on here are dismissive of Pitchfork (and I can be too at times)but overall I think its an essential site, and I check in every day. One things for sure, you cant deny their passion and love for music, and they even seem very knowledgable about music from the 60's and 70's and 80's. They've finally arrived at the meaty stuff, the best 200 albums of the decade. I previously predicted on here that Kid A by Radiohead would be No1, I expect Wilco's YHF to be in the top 10, also I would guess a high position for Sounds Of Silver by LCD Soundsystem. I seem to remember thay had the debut album by the ghastly Interpol as their album of the year once, be interesting to see how they consider that one to have held up!! http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-list s/7706-the-top-200-albums-of-the-2000s-2 00-151/ http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-list s/7707-the-top-200-albums-of-the-2000s-1 50-101/ the countdown continues tomorrow and concludes Friday | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 404 Registered: 10-2008 |
in a freaky coincidence, the new issue of uncut dropped through the letterbox today. to celebrate their 150th issue they have listed the 150 best albums of the decade. the white stripes album white blood cells is no1. hmmm, good album but no way jose. no2 is dylans love and theft. uncut fawning over dylan is as predictable as tuesday following monday. no3 is wilco's a ghost is born. thats an intriguing one, YHF only rated no35. kid a by radiohead only rates no25, while their in rainbows album makes the giddy heights of no15. phillistines!!! expect a deluge of album of the decade listings in the next month or two. must admit im a sucker for these type of things, always have been since agonising for weeks as a teenager, waiting for the christmas edition of nme and devouring their albums of the year. | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 183 Registered: 03-2007 |
As for their best 200 albums of the decade ( 101 to 200 ) the only ones I have are Yeasayer ( 197 ) Jens Lekman ( 153 ) Love Is All ( 139 ) Sigur Ros ( 135 ) Four Tet ( 123 ) Feist ( 112 ) and The National ( 110.) Of that bunch 'Boxer' by The National is the only one I really rate. There are a lot of great Swedish artists/bands around and I much prefer the output of Johan Angergard ( Acid House Kings; Club 8; The Legends ) to that of Lekman. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1434 Registered: 08-2006 |
There should be a rule, or at least a convention, that publications include their original review grade in these lists. I say that because I notice that "Crytograms" by Deerhunter is way down in the 160s on the decade list, yet the 'Fork hyperventilated all over that (crummy) record when it came out. I say this not as a game of gotcha, but as a genuine inquiry: What changed between then and now that an 8.9 record is now underneath a ton of albums that probably scored lower when originally reviewed? I always appreciated that Christgau would indicate in his books if his grade of an album changed between his review's original publication and the publication some years later of his decade-spanning book. To me, that seems interesting, human, and intellectually honest. When critically dodgier publications like P4K or Rolling Stone trot out these lists, with no acknowledgment of their earlier assessments of these works, it seems revisionist. You're taking credit for something you may - or may not - have gotten right at the time. Really, I don't care how accurately Pitchfork ranks a 10-year-old record. I want to know if the reviewer who's pouring 9.0s all over the new records by [insert strange, usually gender- and animal-related, band name here] likes them because he's carefully considered them as works of art or because he got lucky to a couple of them after a bunch of PBRs and a long dry spell. With Pitchfork reviewers, I feel like, a lot of times, the girl from that magical night wises up, the record gets shelved, and the CD winds up plummeting down the decade lists, with no admission that original 8.9 didn't look so impressive once the reviewer was back to spending Saturday nights playing Guitar Hero with his oily hipster pals (anyone wanna bet whether "Cryptograms" is still even ON the list in 10 years?). | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 406 Registered: 10-2008 |
just listened to "a ghost is born" there on the headphones. brought it back what an atmospheric, organic sounding album it is. and a cracker to boot. you can hear the tape hiss on several of the quieter passages, which just confirms to me that the last 2 albums were too "busy". everybody in the band jostling for prominence in the mix just added to the sense of disappointment at how these albums paled compared to YHF and Ghost.... just noticed while reading back through the uncut list that "friends of rachel worth" is no106. no sign of oceans apart or bybo. the much hated(by some on here) midlake are no67. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 407 Registered: 10-2008 |
good points rob. thinking about it though this can also work in reverse. albums that were not critically acclaimed at the time can be seen in a better light with repeated plays over the years. i'm not saying there will be any such cases in the pitchfork list, but off the top off my head i remember odelay by beck getting lukewarm reviews(certainly in the uk press), and going back even further wasnt blood on the tracks slated on release? probably the most famous critical caning that through time saw a massive about turn was the stones exile on main street. i'm sure theres loads more too. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1435 Registered: 08-2006 |
I totally agree, Kev. It's true I worked from the assumption that P4K would overrate records (which seems to be their tendency - they can be very... enthusiastic, which is part of their charm) but it's at least as likely they'd give something a 6 or whatever, and over time it'd emerge as a much more worthy work. They do tend to have some trouble recognizing really good albums by bands who've passed their "buzz moment." Of course, I was being a little catty above. But I really don't like the way these retrospective lists come across as a victory lap for a kind of institutional critical judgement a publication's writers may not possess. | ||
| XY765 Member Username: Judge Post Number: 644 Registered: 01-2006 |
I'm surprised Ghost got No. 3 and YHF came in at No. 35 Kevin. I think it's a fantastic album, second only to YHF for me. That line-up (of four Wilco members) with Jim O'Rourke is one of my favourites and the sound throughout that album is great. As you say (and I think I've said it before as well) they could maybe drop a member or two and sound much better (I'm thinking Nels Cline and Pat Sansone - and bring back Leroy Bach). They're good musicians but there comes a point when you ask are they contributing anything extra to the overall sound. A bit like Real Madrid's Galacticos from a few years ago. OK maybe not heh heh... | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 409 Registered: 10-2008 |
the next 2 installments http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-list s/7708-the-top-200-albums-of-the-2000s-1 00-51/ http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-list s/7709-the-top-200-albums-of-the-2000s-5 0-21/ burial at no41 - great stuff still no sign of yhf, kid a or sounds of silver - shoot-ins for top10!! i reckon animal collectives merryweather album, the hold steady kids in america, and drive by truckers southern rock opera are all certs for the top 20. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 410 Registered: 10-2008 |
thats one prediction went belly up, just noticed boys and girls in america by the hold steady (not their kim wilde tribute album kids in america!!) is actually no64. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1763 Registered: 10-2004 |
Wow, this is reinforcing for me what a wretchedly shitty decade for music this has been. And none of the albums I'd put in my own personal best-of-the-decade list have even been listed among these lists. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1764 Registered: 10-2004 |
Actually, scratch that. They've got Camera Obscura's "Let's Get Out of This Country" at 179, which is entirely too low for that album (it would make my own top 10 for the decade). And then there's the only Shins album that I like, "Oh, Inverted World," at 115 or thereabouts. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 411 Registered: 10-2008 |
Oh youre so 80's jeff!!! ;-) seriously, i think some of the stuff like all the "animal" bands that rob so funnily pointed out are terrible. but there has been a lot of truly,truly great music released this decade, some of it is in the pitchfork list so far, and the creme will be in the top 20. however a lot more of it you just wont find in mojo, uncut, rolling stone or even pitchfork, or if you do they wont be raving about it. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1436 Registered: 08-2006 |
While I don't know a ton of the stuff in the P4K list, I know some, and I could cobble together a pretty good decade list out of it, if I could include a bunch of stuff the 'Fork neglects altogether (one of my beefs with the site - can you imagine them reviewing a great Willie Nelson record?). I'd hate, at age 43, to look at a list like this and say "this decade sucks." It sounds so... old. I guess I'm just not a confident enough person to think that such an opinion isn't based on age. I hope the kids that pop music is aimed at are enjoying the hell out of this stuff, and if I don't get some of it, well, maybe that's cool, and perhaps I'll be proved right when the Big Book of Critical Opinion gets written. In all seriousness: A big cheers to Kev's enthusiasm and I bet when we review the decade later this year, I'll find plenty to enthuse about, too, whether or not much of it made this list. I don't want to turn into Grandpa Simpson, railing against changes that are leaving me behind. Dudes, if I get left behind, let me sink. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 412 Registered: 10-2008 |
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-list s/7710-the-top-200-albums-of-the-2000s-2 0-1/ well, i got the no1 right, and i thought YHF would have been higher than no4. its quite an eclectic mix of albums though - experimental (radiohead/wilco), dance(daft punk), hip hop (jay z),stadium rock(arcade fire), indie (modest m, strokes), weird (sigur r). overall i dont think they missed anything out, although we could argue all day about the order. my own top 5 would be 1. kid a - radiohead 2. yankee hotel foxtrot - wilco 3. untrue - burial 4. yoshimi.... - flaming lips 5. sounds of silver - lcd soundsystem | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 413 Registered: 10-2008 |
oh, and interpol was a staggeringly high no20. some ass covering going on there methinks. as bad as the killers and coldplay that lot!! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3139 Registered: 05-2005 |
I own 7 of the 100-51 list, 11 of the 50-21 list and 7 of the 20-1 list. I don't know what that says (other than that I have a quarter of the top 100 and little desire to get any of the others). | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 414 Registered: 10-2008 |
I bought 10 in the list from 200-151, 22 in the 150-101, 24 in the 100-51, 23 in the 50-21 and 15 of the top 20. which means i bought almost half of the whole 200, and 62 of the top 100. I say "bought" rather than "have", because I dont own all of them now!! although the ones i sold probably only account for 10% | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 185 Registered: 03-2007 |
A total of 15 from the entire list ( 01 to 200.) | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1765 Registered: 10-2004 |
Rob, there were some great albums released this decade, but as Kevin mentions, there's a lot of stuff out there that didn't show up on Pitchfork's list (at least in my view). But, I'm 9 years younger than you, and I don't feel old saying I think less of the music of this decade (maybe I feel like a snob, but I'm just being honest!). As I've said before, I ultimately don't care about the time periods in which music I like is released. As long as I keep finding stuff that I like that's new *to me*, that's all that matters! If I were to cobble together a list of my own favs from this decade, it would look like this (in no particular order): Cathal Coughlan - The Sky's Awful Blue Aislers Set - How I Learned to Write Backwards Go-Betweens - OA Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out of This Country Lily Allen - Alright Still (I can't help it, some days I'm a total pop fiend at heart!) Liars - They were wrong... High Llamas - Beet, Maize, & Corn Shack - Corner of Miles & Gil Winnebago Orchestra - Born in the Sun (No, I'm not just including this because of Spence; it really is a great album) Broadcast - Noise Made by People Paddy McAloon - I Trawl the Megahertz Shins - Oh, Inverted World I think only 3 of these made Pitchfork's list! | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3346 Registered: 05-2005 |
I'm with Jeff. This last 10 years in quite insignificant. Like music doesn;t start or end in a particular period does it!? Its all bollocks. I'm with Jeff too (not just because of TWO) but we're really uncannily totally musically alike. sorry what am i on about!? Oh Gol gappas, that will explain it! | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 563 Registered: 05-2005 |
I just took a look at the top ten. I know we ALL like a little bit of something EXTRA but to exclude ANY massive selling album from the decade is pure snobbery. Of course, you know the one I mean! White cover, decapitated head, one word band. That's gotta be there! I'd also put in Seachange, Yoshimi, Vespertine,The Crane Wife, Chaos and Creation, The Last Broadcast, Fleet Foxes, Kid A, Amneasiac, Oceans Apart (of course)...not a hundred million Animal Collective albums! The only one I've heard (this years) was MORE than enough!!!! Talk about the emperor's new clothes! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 416 Registered: 10-2008 |
geoff, more clues about the excluded band, i'm struggling. and animal collective will be one of the bands that will stand the test of time, trust me. i find it strange you like kid a, but dismiss AC. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 564 Registered: 05-2005 |
Get your bucket ready skully..... COLDPLAY - A RUSH OF BLOOD TO THE HEAD I bought the Animal Collective album after you raved about it since I had only just bought Fleet Foxes (which I rate very highly). I rarely hear albums on first listen that interrupt conversations I'm having (like "Carnival of Light" or "A Rush of Blood"). Usually it takes a week or 2 of repeated listens where my like of "moments" expands to encompass the whole album just about. For me, that Animal Collective album has a couple of moments but none of them join up like other albums. The overt regional accents sounding like something from Greenday or worse grate. I also want to hear SONGS - they don't appear to write songs as such. I can see they are trying for a "Smile" like synthesis but for me it doesn't work as the songs just arn't there. Maybe they are the next Beatles and I'm just some old git complaining about young peoples music that I could not possibly understand! Kid A on the other hand has SONGS that draw you in despite the clatter and beeping that, on the surface, alienate. I kept wanting to hear more of what he was saying. With Animal Collective, I couldn't care less what he's saying cause it isn't saying anything or isn't saying "nothing" how I like it. ....o.k. I'll give it yet another try!! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 418 Registered: 10-2008 |
oh right, coldplay. well thats an easy one to explain away - excluded on the grounds of being pish!! next. ac. i always find if you have to "try" to like music its a futile exercise. perhaps its just not for you geoff, i wouldnt beat yourself up about it ;-) | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3144 Registered: 05-2005 |
Geoff, have you listened to Brisbane band Skinny Jean? I've raved about them elsewhere here. I just got the album yesterday and am now playing it for the fourth time already. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1621 Registered: 01-2005 |
I wouldn't call 2000-2009 a great decade for music. It certainly can't compare to the 1970's, 80's and even the 90's. Then again, I haven't bought a Radiohead release since OK Computer, and don't have anyting by Mr. West, so Pitchfork would probably laugh at my comment. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1648 Registered: 01-2005 |
I'll add Kid A (which I just bought)to my decade best of list when I make it in a couple of months. I still need to buy Vespertine, Sea Change, Heartbreaker, Untrue, Seperation Sunday, The Last Broadcast and Amneasiac. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2159 Registered: 03-2005 |
I've been avoiding this thread and only read it for the first time today. For myself, I figure half of what I will eventually consider to be the best records of this decade I haven't even heard yet because I am so slow to get things. If I rush out and buy what people are raving about I end up with Midlake or Yo La Tengo's "I Will Beat Your Ass." I have some of the things on Pitchfork's list (Sufjan Stevens, Belle & Sebastian's "Life Pursuit," New Pornographers' "Twin Cinema," Bonnie Prince Billy, even a bootleg copy of "Funeral") that would not go on my current provisional list. From their list I can sort-of sign on to Neko Case' "Blacklisted" though I think that album's still too conservative to be her best. And I love about one third of the Nick Cave double set. And I really do like that one Strokes album. Oddly enough I've had a copy of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot for a couple years and have not yet actually played it. I did put it on once but after the first 30 seconds went "ah, I'm not feeling Jeff Tweedy right now" and off it went. The good songs on "Ghost" are really great ("Wishful Thinking" knocked me out just yesterday, for example) but as I recall that album has a 10 minute section that sounds like somebody plugged a power line into the sound board and walked off to do something else. I don't need that kind of crap. Ever. I didn't like long boring instrumental workouts by the likes of Cream or Neil Young 40 years ago and I'm not going to like the post-modern spoof of the same thing now. I promise I will eventually actually listen to YHF because Tweedy can genuinely write and present a song in a first class understated way. I definitely agree with Jeff about Cathal Coughlan's "Sky's Awful Blue" except that I can't decide whether I'd choose "Black River Falls" instead. If it's a list of 200 they both go onto it very easily. The man's best work outshines the mediocrity touted by the record company shills--oops, critics--so overwhelmingly that reasonable minds can't even differ. It's just that nobody's actually heard Coughlan's records. On a much more conventional level, while Pitchfork may not be paying attention to the Aussies certainly some other folks will name an Augie March album, probably "Bloody Choir." Personally I'm unsure whether I'd choose that one or the less-obvious "Strange Bird" in my own list. Neko Case' "Fox Confessor" still rates very highly with me and is much more imaginative than "Blacklisted." I won't be surprised if "The Evangelist" proves to hold up really well with me over time; it's certainly a strong Robert Forster record. Do live records count? I'd include the GoBees' "Live in London." I might actually like that better than OA. Moving back to a critics' darling, I remain a big fan of Bright Eyes' "Digital Ash." Moving off the Pitchfork reservation, in addition to Coughlan I have some personal favorites from this past decade that I suppose won't get on anybody's list but they're still rating well with me, such as Vic Chesnutt's "Silverlake" from 2003. Both that and "Ghetto Bells" (2005) are really good albums and must be among the best things recorded in my town over this past decade. And on a very different musical planet I find April March's second Bertrand Burgalat album "Triggers" from 2003 still sounds weird and great. Disaster Plan's "Party" from 2000 might be my absolute favorite individual album by that very uncompromising and obscure band. (Thank you for that one, Hugh.) On a much more conventional level, the Panics' "Sleeps Like a Curse" (2005) is continuing to stand out as my favorite of theirs. Eventually I might conclude that the Drones' "Gala Mill" (2006) goes way up in the ranks too. (And thank you for that one, Padraig.) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 457 Registered: 10-2008 |
different strokes for different folks i guess randy? On Wilco's YHF: ive said this before, im a great believer that albums have a life of their own that comprise different phases. for example i think that anybody who bought the stones,dylan,beatles,clash,joy division albums when they first came out was lucky enough to get caught up in the initial euphoria, the sound was current, topical,fitted the political climate etc etc. people hearing these records 5,10,15,20 years later can love them but i dont think they can possibly connect in the same way. anyway, im rambling, so on YHF i think you might have missed the boat Randy. When that album came out at the start of the decade it was a sonic revelation to Wilco fans who had no doubt heard the record company had rejected it as not being representative of where they thought wilco should be going. a lot of people said it was the american kid a - i can see that point of view. it still sounds amazing, but the impact has diminished slightly as familiarity takes over and the fact that there are loads of other bands making similar music. i hope you prove me wrong when you listen to it randy. on the pitchfork list: its easy for people to just see this as a pitchfork list with all the didain that that brings, the albums on the list are not exclusive to them however. lots of them were in the list uncut published recently, and as more and more lists are published in the next few months lots of these "pitchfork" albums will be included. on the australian bands randy mentions: ive tried, god knows ive tried but most australian/nz bands just dont do it for me. i havent a clue why, although maybe im suffering from my dads "all this reggae just sounds the same to me" ailment. i really have difficulty distinguishing between the bats, the clean,the drones,the panics etc etc. all the vocalists sound the same to me(and yes i know they probably dont to everybody else), there is little or no character to the vocals which doesnt help me either. the only exception i would make would be the chills - i dont think they sound like the bands i mentioned earlier. nick cave of course is a different animal entirely and i do rate most of his stuff from the late 80s onwards. pre 16ll go betweens, and all of roberts solo albums are of course essential. ive just looked at the pile of cds that ive either played recently or will play, i dont think there is a guitar on any of these albums and vocals are at a premium. not one of them will be considered for inclusion in mojo,uncut,rolling stone etc end of year lists. they might be in pitchforks though. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3379 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kev how come you say "im a great believer that albums have a life of their own that comprise different phases." And you slated the last Wilco album!!!!! ;) Ye punk ye! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 458 Registered: 10-2008 |
spence youve lost me there. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3380 Registered: 05-2005 |
well, I didn't think you rated the last Wilco album? and didn't i read you wished they'd go back to their old former self, yankee style era jeff and his mojo?!? so, does the fact that you made the line I highlight above - albums having their own place at different stages of an artists career mean you now don;t mind Wilco the album!? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 459 Registered: 10-2008 |
no, thats not what i meant. i am talking about albums having their own life span, not the artist. i cant think of a good way to explain this. the best i can come up with is if wilco had only ever made yhf and then split up immediately then wilco as a band would not have evolved and stayed frozen in that period. the album itself though would have the different life stages i mentioned. that probably doesnt make any sense to anybody but me :-) and no, i havent changed my mind aboout the last 2 wilco albums! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3189 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kevin, I can understand why you have a bit of difficulty distinguishing The Bats and The Clean. Robert Scott is in both, though The Clean are much less conventional sounding (and I'm not criticising either band in saying that). I can also see why you might lump The Panics in there too. But The Drones sound nothing like any of those three! I love all four of these bands and I get that melodic pop is not really your thing, but please don't let that put you off giving The Drones a decent airing. I won't guarantee you'll like them, but you should at least give them a proper listen before writing them off! | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2163 Registered: 03-2005 |
Padraig, I pretty much figured Kevin hasn't heard the Drones also. I'll remedy that. Of course, they're still guitar music. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 577 Registered: 05-2005 |
There is(?) a newish Clean out with a cover that looks like a cross between Smiley Smile and the writing on the cover of 5th Dimension. Has anyone heard it? What's it like? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 460 Registered: 10-2008 |
oh but i have heard the drones. i have havillah. padriag, what makes you think i dont like melodic pop? as long as i dont consider it bland i love a good melody :-) | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3194 Registered: 05-2005 |
Give them another go Kevin. I remember you mentioning them before, which was why I was surprised you likened them to The Bats etc. Long live non-bland melodic pop! | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 578 Registered: 05-2005 |
To my ears, the Panics are WAY less bland than Wilco, ESPECIALLY Yankee etc! | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 260 Registered: 02-2007 |
I was a huge early Wilco fan but I stopped listening as much once they did pretentious guitar noise feedback as Randy described above. I'm getting too old to waste my time listening to that. I find i can make 1 great album out of the 3 or 4 great songs from each of the last 4 albums. A bit too hit and miss for me. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 978 Registered: 08-2004 |
In no particular order & without a great deal of consideration. Stephen Jones - Almost Cured Of Sadness Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes K-os - Joyous Rebellion Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career Public Enemy - Revolverlution Nick Cave - Abatoir Blues/Lyre Of The Orpheus & DLD Babybird - Bugged Mystery Jets - Twenty One The Ravonettes - Lust Lust Lust Team America - OST Pulp - We Love Life R.E.M. - Reveal The Beastie Boys - To The 5 Boroughs Bob Dylan - Love & Theft (His Christmas album could turn out to be a great one to annoy people with) Portishead - Third Doves - The Last Broadcast Badly Drawn Boy - Have You Fed The Fish? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 480 Registered: 10-2008 |
NME Top 50 albums of the decade isnt this an ipod shuffle of the pitchfork list? 1. The Strokes – 'Is This It' 2. The Libertines – 'Up The Bracket' 3. Primal Scream – 'XTRMNTR' 4. Arctic Monkeys – 'Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not' 5. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – 'Fever To Tell' 6. PJ Harvey – 'Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea' 7. Arcade Fire – 'Funeral' 8. Interpol – 'Turn On The Bright Lights' 9. The Streets – 'Original Pirate Material' 10. Radiohead – 'In Rainbows' 11. At The Drive In – 'Relationship Of Command' 12. LCD Soundsystem – 'Sound Of Silver' 13. The Shins – 'Wincing The Night Away' 14. Radiohead – 'Kid A' 15. Queens Of The Stone Age – 'Songs For The Deaf' 16. The Streets – 'A Grand Don't Come For Free' 17. Sufjan Stevens – 'Illinois' 18. The White Stripes – 'Elephant' 19. The White Stripes – 'White Blood Cells' 20. Blur – 'Think Tank' 21. The Coral – 'The Coral' 22. Jay-Z – 'The Blueprint' 23. Klaxons – 'Myths Of The Near Future' 24. The Libertines – 'The Libertines' 25. The Rapture – 'Echoes' 26. Dizzee Rascal – 'Boy in Da Corner' 27. Amy Winehouse – 'Back To Black' 28. Johnny Cash – 'The Man Comes Around' 29. Super Furry Animals – 'Rings Around The World' 30. Elbow – 'Asleep In The Back' 31. Bright Eyes – 'I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning' 32. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – 'Show Your Bones' 33. Arcade Fire – 'Neon Bible' 34. Grandaddy – 'The Sophtware Slump' 35. Babyshambles – 'Down In Albion' 36. Spirtualized – 'Let it Come Down' 37. The Knife – 'Silent Shout' 38. Bloc Party – 'Silent Alarm' 39. Crystal Castles – 'Crystal Castles' 40. Ryan Adams – 'Gold' 41. Wild Beasts – 'Two Dancers' 42. Vampire Weekend – 'Vampire Weekend' 43. Wilco – 'Yankee Hotel Foxtrot' 44. Outkast – 'Speakerboxxx/The Love Below' 45. Avalanches – 'Since I Left You' 46. The Delgados – 'The Great Eastern' 47. Brendan Benson – 'Lapalco' 48. The Walkmen – 'Bows and Arrows' 49. Muse – 'Absolution' 50. MIA – 'Arular' | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3232 Registered: 05-2005 |
I have 19 of them. | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 262 Registered: 02-2007 |
Here are my fav 38 from my alphabetical ipod list 1. Jon Auer - "Songs From The Year of Our Demise" 2. Augie March - "Moo You Bloody Choir" 3. Beck - "Sea Change" 4. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - "Howl" 5. Kev Carmody - "Cannot But My Soul" 6. Johnny Cash - American Recordings (all of em!) 7. Cat Power - "Youb Are Free" 8. Nick Cave - "Abatoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus" 9. Conor Oberst &Mystic Valley Band-"Outer South" 10. Doves - Last Broadcast" 11. Dylan - "Modern Times" (Love & Theft is aweful) 12. Steve Earl - "Transcendental Blues" 13. Kathleen Edwards - Back To Me" 14. EmmyLou Harris - "Red Dirt Girl" 15. Fleet Foxes - "Fleet Foxes" 16. Robert Forster - "The Evangelist" 17 The Flaming Lips - "Yoshimi" 18 The Frames - "The Cost" 19 Jose Gonzalez - "In Our Nature" 20 GoBetweens - "Oceans Apart" 21.Icecream Hands - "Broken UFO" 22.Jimmy Little - "Messenger" 23. The National - "Alligator" or "Boxer" 24. PJ Harvey - "Stories from the city..." 25. The Panics - "Cruel Guards" 26. Radiohead - "Kid A" 27. Damien Rice "O" 28. Robert Plant/Alison Krauss - "Raising Sand 29. Elliott Smith - "Figure 8" 30. The Sleepy Jackson - "Personality...." 31. The Strokes - "Is This IT" 32. Richard Thompson - "Sweet Warrior" 33. The White Stripes - "Elephant" or "White Blood Cells" 34. Louden Wainwright III - "Last Man On Earth" 35. Paul Weller - "22 Dreams" 36. Lucinda Williams "Essence" or "World Wihout Tears" 37. XTC - "Apple Venus Part II" 38. Neil Young - "Greendale" (Dont laugh, its a high school musical thats almost a masterpiece!} | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1669 Registered: 01-2005 |
David, As GoB fans, we are pretty split as to our favorite album. Do you have all three of the Kathleen Edwards albums? I would rank "Back To Me" behind her debut "Failer" and her last album "Asking For Flowers". I saw her in concert this past February. Kathleen signed my Failer cd insert, and was great live. She is due for a new album in 2010 and I hope to catch her live again soon. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 485 Registered: 10-2008 |
was checking back on previous nme top 50's of the decade. the 80s was an interesting one. "kilimanjaro" by teardrop explodes at no 17! i seem to remember it took a bit of a critical caning in most mags when it came out. no "murmur" by rem, but they did think "green" merited inclusion at no40- they're having a right chuckle there! "16ll" at no20 - blimey | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 263 Registered: 02-2007 |
No Michael I dont have the other Kathleen Edwards albums. I must acquire them though cant seem to find em anywhere around Brisbane at the moment. Thanks for the headsup. Hope she tours. Should have put Grinderman in the list as well. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1674 Registered: 01-2005 |
Regarding the NME Top 50 albums of the decade, I just ordered a few that looked interesting: 5. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – 'Fever To Tell' 6. PJ Harvey – 'Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea' 21. The Coral – 'The Coral' 46. The Delgados – 'The Great Eastern' | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 186 Registered: 05-2005 |
the Delgados one is excellent, I saw them play in a church in Salisbury on the Great Eastern tour and it was an amazing gig. All their albums are good and they are sadly missed. Emma Pollock fropm the band has a lovely voice and her solo album is also worth checking out | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 496 Registered: 10-2008 |
the guardians at it now. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/series/a lbums-of-the-decade | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 497 Registered: 10-2008 |
q magazines top 10 albums of the decade 1. black to black - amy whinehouse 2. the strokes - is this it 3. arctic monkeys - whatever people say i am... 4. whites stripes - elephant 5. coldplay - viva la vida.... 6. arcade fire - funeral 7. green day - american idiot 8. jay z - the blueprint 9. radiohead - kid a 10.johnny cash - american iv this is a pretty noel gallagher-y type list. eg, biggest = best. the strokes are doing rather well in all this reminiscing arent they? | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1683 Registered: 01-2005 |
Kev wrote: >the strokes are doing rather well in all this reminiscing arent they? They sure are. Arcade Fire and Radiohead are doing almost as good. There seem to be some dispute about the best White Stripes album. I won't chime in on that until I get around to buying De Stijl. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3415 Registered: 05-2005 |
For me, this decade, new music wise, has been so non eventful, hearing new old music though has been plentiful. Also, I think, I've pretty much enjoyed playing music rather than listening to it. Stand outs/round ups (and some which are on reflection, just OK) as follows, alubums and artists mix. in no preferential but probably iTunes order: GB's Oceans Apart. Beck - various albums. Ben Folds - Songs for Silverman. Wilco all albums. Television reissues. Wild Beasts - 2 Dancers. Caroline Trettine - 10 Light years. Cherry Ghost album. Clientele - God Save and Geometry (ta Kev) The Coral Roots and Echoes Durutti Column - Idiot Svants Euros Childs Miracle Inn Foo Fighters - One by one. Second franz F album Grace Jones - Hurricane Guster - ganging up ion the sun ( a remarkable pop album, not thar far removed from jellyfish) High Llamas Can cladders Modest mouse - We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank MGMT Luis Bonfa (Ta Jeff) Apartments (ta Randy) Wilco outatkes etc (Ta XY) Bathers (ta jerry) Mogwai - The hawk is howling Nada Surf - Weight is a gift and Let go The National Alligator and Boxer Nick Cave - Abbatoir blues and No more shall we part Take That - beautiful World Teen Fanclub Man Made Turin Brakes - all their albums. Same for Kings of Convinence Tunng TV on the radio - Crying (best funk guitar work out since Nile Rodgers 30 years ago. The Whitest Boy alive - both albums Soft Hearted Scientists (thanks Cosmo) Witness - Under a sun Spike Priggen Shack Rufus Wainwright Royksopp Richard Hawley - Coles Corner Radiohead - Hail to the thief but Rainbows more so. Josef K reissue. Orange Juice reissue was a disappointment Midlake Fleet Lamplighter - Lamplighter Kings of Leon - first 2 albums JosŽ Gonz‡lez Joy Div reissues Sigur Ros bell Divers (ta Randy) Birth of my twin daughters Grace and kitty, was the EVENT of the decade! | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 199 Registered: 05-2005 |
spence, I had forgotten about that Nada Surf- Let Go album! it's a brilliant album, really really strong and should be on ALL the top 50 lists no question | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 499 Registered: 10-2008 |
fact magazine are counting down their albums of the decade this week. just a hunch, but i think this will be right up my street. http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=4095&Ite mid=103 | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3416 Registered: 05-2005 |
cosmo, yeah man, what a scorcher that album was/is! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3259 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence: Take That - Beautiful World? Was that in there just to see if we were paying attention? | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3425 Registered: 05-2005 |
No Pad, I think its a great album, really, and I think apart from GB's coming back in 2000, it was the pop comeback of the deacde/century! My gals love it too mind! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 500 Registered: 10-2008 |
the next 20 from fact magazine http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=4095&Ite mid=103&limit=1&limitstart=2 | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 501 Registered: 10-2008 |
next 20 http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=4095&Ite mid=103&limit=1&limitstart=4 | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 502 Registered: 10-2008 |
next 20, some belters in there http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=4095&Ite mid=103&limit=1&limitstart=6 | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3268 Registered: 05-2005 |
I had never previously heard of Fact magazine Kevin! I haven't heard of about half the artists featured on the list so far either. But of the ones I have heard of I mostly have those records and agree with their inclusion. I especially applaud that they picked the right Outkast album to include (Stankonia). | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 504 Registered: 10-2008 |
Nice one Padraig, I thought I was pissing against the wind with these posts :-) - and you're right about Outkast. I really must dig that one out. As ultimately useless as these lists might be, I quite like the way that they make you dig out albums you might not have heard in ages - in my case the Hot Chip album. As far as Fact magazine goes, they mostly cater for electronic music lovers, although anything vaguely left field, from Tom Waits to Radiohead, Joanna Newsome to Daft Punk gets a look in. I have a hunch on Kid A for top spot in this list actually. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 507 Registered: 10-2008 |
the winners are in http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=4095&Ite mid=103&limit=1&limitstart=8 | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1684 Registered: 01-2005 |
Nice to see Vespertine almost in the top 10. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 508 Registered: 10-2008 |
you wont get much argument from me about radiohead, lcd soundsystem and burial in the top 10. although kid a should have been no1. the strokes high up yet again, looks like they win the medias most popular band of the decade | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 510 Registered: 10-2008 |
guardian/observer music monthly albums of the decade. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov /29/albums-of-the-decade radiohead,the strokes,arcade fire,white stripes, burial and lcd soundsystem seem to consistently figure at the top of all these lists. the streets at no1? shurely shome mishtake? | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 604 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yeah, but unlike the other lists you have found Skully, at least I had read/heard of most of the bands! How pretentious for those other lists to name COMPLETE unknown after complete unknown after complete unknown etc. At least with that Guardian list I can safely say they have listened to the music and not just the hype! Now I WILL have ignore my prejudices and to listen to LCD sound system and Burial! I also noticed no Fleet Foxes(criminal) nor Animal Collective too. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3275 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yeah, The Guardian list looks closer to what I'd pick than any other list I've seen so far. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 511 Registered: 10-2008 |
so geoff, just because you havent heard or read about these other bands that makes the bands, the writers and the people that enjoy it "pretentious"? that is by far the most idiotic and narrowminded statement i have ever read on this board, and i should know because i'm sure i have contributed some myself. come into the new musical century my friend, its not frightening. i'm guessing you dont live your life the way you did 20 or 30 years ago, so there is no need to think "the fabs" and "the crowdies" are still at the cutting edge ;-) for the record there are quite a few bands on these lists i havent heard of, but i will do a bit of research on them before lazily and contemtiously writing them off without hearing them first. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3433 Registered: 05-2005 |
now now ladies! easy tiger(s)... etc etc etc | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 512 Registered: 10-2008 |
you pretentious git spence. even i havent heard of now now ladies!, great name for a band though. easy tiger sound like they would be right up geoffs street ;-) | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3280 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Now Now Ladies debut EP was very good. They got a bit pretentious after that though. The Tigers are supporting the Crowdies in January. | ||
| Mark Leydon Member Username: Mark_leydon Post Number: 276 Registered: 05-2005 |
And what about the 'etc etc etc' debut album? Crucial I say! Nice find Spence. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3435 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yes Pad, the now now ladies ep was great, but Gentlemen - Time, Please, were the bees, with their wonderful album we all came to know and love, pretentious!? Moi?! you'd like it Kev, its like dubstep in reverse! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 513 Registered: 10-2008 |
ok, heres my top ten of the decade 1. Kid A - Radiohead 2. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - Wilco 3. Untrue - Burial 4. Sounds of Silver - LCD Soundsystem 5. XTRMNTR -Primal Scream 6. Merryweather Post Pavillion - Animal Collective 7. Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots - Flaming Lips 8. The Warning - Hot Chip 9. London Zoo - The Bug 10.The Dirty South - Drive By Truckers These are certainly the albums I've listened to the most. The order may fluctuate, apart from the top 3. Thats a constant | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3438 Registered: 05-2005 |
All fu*kin shit kev apart from 2. ;) though you did get me into Hot Chip's Made in the dark, which I think is great apart from the proper songs on there, whistle for will (sounds like some freak singing to a john carpenter soundtrack) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 514 Registered: 10-2008 |
memo to spence remember when you post your list that its for y2k onwards. all entries from the 80s will be void ;-) | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3439 Registered: 05-2005 |
Hah haha!! Ye feck ye ;) | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 208 Registered: 05-2005 |
Actually I think Kev's 10 is a good one although I have to confess to never hearing Burial or the Bug but a fair few of Kev's would be on my list too. I dont think that XTRMNTR has aged well and my list would include: The Real New Fall LP (Country on the Click)- The Fall Vaudeville Villain- Viktor Vaughan (MF Doom) Behind the Music/Origin- The Soundtrack of Our Lives Since I Left You - The Avalanches Take Time to Wonder in a Whirling World - Soft Hearted Scientists Oceans Apart- The Go-Betweens | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 607 Registered: 05-2005 |
Skully - EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! I know pretention when I see/read/hear it. I've played that game...BEEN THERE...DONE THAT....many years ago. One of those lists - can't remember which one - stank of pretention. That I, as an olde git, am not totally up to scratch with the most pretentiously obscure is a given - I don't NEED to be anymore - Do you? I TRY to keep my ears open to new avenues but I know what I like - and why shouldn't I? Obviously I am too narrow minded to have even heard everything on the Guardian list...but at least I have read/heard recommendations about most of the stuff - often as not on this board. Padraig - where have you found the stuff about (sigh) THE CROWDIES (them again)in January?? | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 268 Registered: 02-2007 |
Some rules perhaps. 1. Just cos it's popular doesnt mean you cant like it! 2. Just cos it's popular doesn't mean you have to like it! 3. If too many people like obscure bands then they'll become popular, hence the need for rules 1 & 2 4. Lists don't mean anything. 5. If you really listen closely to a "new" band you'll hear the vague echoe of an "old" band. 6. There have only been a handful of exceptions to rule 5. 7. Where some people see pretention, others see inventiveness. 8. Placing band on list (reminder to see rule 4) can often depend on choice made according to rule 7. 9. Some music is however shite I hope these ideas may help to resolve things Geoff and Skull. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3441 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kev, WTF r you on about with the comment: memo to spence remember when you post your list that its for y2k onwards. all entries from the 80s will be void ;-) The only thing I can think is where I mentioned all wilco albums etc, for that decade, not their entire output, ditto for wherever else I have obviously miscommunicated ;) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 515 Registered: 10-2008 |
david, since when did rules ever have anything to do with rock music ;-) anyway, overall (as opposed to a handful of exceptions)im struggling to think of any artist(s) who actually got better by the time they reached rule3. usually there is some concession to what the public will stomach/consume, certainly, and especially, from the 80s onwards. it could be argued the big hitters in the 60s and 70s (dylan,stones,even the beatles in the 60s, followed by bowie and neil young in the 70s)didnt concede to public taste. in the 80's rem just got progressively more accessible as did talking heads and the clash with the resulting accessibility meaning weaker albums.the trend continues to this day, maybe somebody can highlight a band in the last 20 years whose music got better when they sold large amounts of music - radiohead perhaps. they certainly play by their own rules. anyway, i just bashed this post out after getting up out of bed following a 12 hour night shift so i probably should have waited till my brain was in gear before posting but sod it ;-). it might annoy geoff if nothing else!! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 516 Registered: 10-2008 |
simon reynolds take on the decade, and the pitchfork list http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblo g/2009/dec/07/musically-fragmented-decad e and his take on animal collective http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblo g/2009/feb/06/simon-reynolds-animal-coll ective | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3282 Registered: 05-2005 |
No Crowdies gigs in January that I know of Geoff. Just a joke for illustrative purposes! (I'm sure I read somewhere that they plan to tour at some point this year, but maybe I imagined it.) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 517 Registered: 10-2008 |
geoffy, i am oblivious to large amounts of obscure stuff, but the stuff under discussion here is pretty much in the public domain - eg lists from popular websites and newspapers. rule 7 that david puts forward is worth noting here, and rule 9 is a given. If you take my list for example, if i showed it to joe bloggs he probably hasnt heard most of it and thinks its ultra obscure, but for people like us its hardly difficult listening made by under the radar artists nobody has ever heard of. or is it? | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 609 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kevin, Without trying to be at all patronising, I don't have a problem with your list - it's the Pitchfork one that I think is ridiculous by knowingly having only bands that THEY have heard of. I was surprised that they didn't have The R?ab!id Do$lphins ^on Nu&&tmeg on their list - I mean, 1920's spoon playing in 7/12 time and sung in Swahili is the coolest!!!! How stupid must I be to not have even HEARD of this stuff!! Music is a form of communication - if no one has heard it then it probably isn't doing it's job. Of course, you can quote me and laugh heartily when I'm fawning and gushing about one on the Pitchfork list in a years time! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 521 Registered: 10-2008 |
geoff, i didnt think you had a problem with my list. to be honest im a bit surprised you have that much of a problem with the pitchfork list, i assumed it was the fact magazine that was getting you in such a tizzy ;-) without being patronising back at you, i think you'll find that there are loads of spotty youngsters, and not so spotty music obsessives out there who are being communicated to, more so now than ever in this information overload age. again, just because you havent heard of it doesnt make it pretentious or unworthy, i mean i'm sure your dad hated "the crowdies" or maybe he didnt :-) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 522 Registered: 10-2008 |
http://blissout.blogspot.com/ think this piece just adds fuel to the fire of the argument that recent modern rock music is rubbish, to paraphrase blur. reynolds is right on the button when he states in this article, and his guardian piece, that the more that these polls roll in, the consensus seems to be that the second half of this decade pales in comparison to the first. (its the second article that includes the rolling stone poll) | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2196 Registered: 03-2005 |
This has become a very entertaining thread with Kevin outdoing himself here and there. (Really, Kevin, that last little "or maybe he didn't"). I've been giving almost all of these articles a pass but I did read the Simon Reynolds piece the other day. As I understand it, his point was NOT that the music from the second half of the decade is inferior but rather that the availability and variety of music has expanded and dispersed so much that fewer people are listening to the same things. Personally I think that's great. It's the death of the big record label pop music hype juggernaut. Off and on I've written about that. I think it's fabulous that more and more people can make their own records. I think it's fabulous that more and more local areas or regions will develop their own music scenes without the need for acknowledgment or validation by the usual tired music centers like New York, London, Los Angeles and perhaps Sydney. I expect that I'll be checking out some of these artists gradually over the next decade but the near-universal inclusion of such sparkly but insubstantial tripe as Arcade Fire's "Funeral" tells me to take my jolly sweet time in that endeavor. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3284 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yeah, I thought people would have seen by now that the Arcade Fire emperor has no clothes on. I'm frankly shocked that it's showing up in all these best of the decade polls. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3446 Registered: 05-2005 |
I forgot about Paul Simon - Surpsise Beautiful album, never knew Eno was involved til I bought it, and he's there I can tell you!, the song Father and Daughter, makes me cry, and therefore for me retains a special personal and universal resonance. | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 719 Registered: 07-2006 |
the guardian list's more up my alley... call me anglo-centric, but the pitchfork list is decidedly north american. both MIA records featuring is a little overkill/tokenised, but nice to see robyn on there, especially considering all the championing they did. a killer record, should be in the top ten! i never bought kid a. ok computer was utterly perfect in summing up the malaise of the late 90s, i'm still vaguely hesistant to venture past it. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 612 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kevin, My Dad hated just about ALL of my music, refused to let me learn music and was annoyed that although there was 13 years between me and my oldest sister, somehow I too was a Beatle nut! I had lots of hits of the 40's, Bing, Doris Day, Russ Conway and South Pacific played when I was growing up. Anything with electric guitars, including probably the Crowdies, was no good to him...although I did catch him humming "Honey Pie" off the White album once!!(It's a 1920's pastiche) I did read the Simon Reynolds article. I thought he made a good point about pretention in music in the article. But the funniest thing was all of the comments after! People ready to start a class war over music!!! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 524 Registered: 10-2008 |
ha, you think you had it bad!! a guy at my work likes death metal, last night i had the pleasure of listening to orange goblin and opeth | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2200 Registered: 03-2005 |
Looking back in middle age I realize that my dad was pretty indulgent. He had three music-mad sons, one of whom played drums, another guitar and the youngest (me) played both plus piano. All of those were played badly, I hastily add. He designed and built the house we lived in during my middle school and high school years. He located the sons' bedrooms far away from his. He insulated our interior walls! His unchanging rule was that on Sunday all day we had to shut up and he listened to what he wanted to hear. That was a "beautiful music" radio station playing the sort of stuff Geoff's dad listened to, but also elevator music like Percy Faith, Ray Coniff Singers and Mantovani. It was a smart move on his part; it sent us all out of the house! | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 616 Registered: 05-2005 |
MMMMMM......the Ray Coniff Singers!! I remember ABC morning radio used to play that stuff incessantly in the late 60's/early 70's as my dad would be getting ready for work. Kevin, if you think the Crowdies are bland...... | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 720 Registered: 07-2006 |
new thread - music our dads liked! i don't remember my father listening to anything, save forgold "good times and classic hits" 104 in the car. it made him cry more than once. broken man and all that. oh, he has a roy orbison cassette i obviously loved. | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 273 Registered: 02-2007 |
My dad was into country music. We listened to Marty Robbins (Gunfighter Ballads i think. Big Iron on His Hip was one we all learnt off by heaert!!)and lots of Johnny Cash. He was like Elvis in our house! Lots of Gospel stuff as we were a church type family when we were kids. Singing in church about the only thing good i remmebr about the experience! Fortunatley no Ray Coniff!! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 527 Registered: 10-2008 |
we only had 2 singles in our house till I, as the oldest child, started buying records. these 2 singles were rather cooly "its all over now" by the rolling stones, and "what do you want" by adam faith. i think both had been bought by my mother. to the best of my knowledge my father has never purchased any music in his 76 years on this earth. i seem to remember that we had this record buying oasis for what seemed like 3 or 4 years and these 2 records were literally worn down. then suddenly i was bitten by the record buying bug. unlike most people i would guess, the first record i bought was an album rather than a single and it was bought from a local store because we didnt have a record shop. http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl =http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-9732 76-1247597422.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www. discogs.com/T-Rex-Ride-A-White-Swan/rele ase/973276&usg=__IrSTQjCWSiVGnBAHcmyLMEx 1ffY=&h=150&w=150&sz=9&hl=en&start=8&um= 1&itbs=1&tbnid=pvikmLYs8GdFKM:&tbnh=96&t bnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dride%2Ba%2Bwhi te%2Bswan%2Bmfp%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1C1GPE A_enGB335GB335%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1 | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1690 Registered: 01-2005 |
My parnets had the Getz/Gilberto album and a few Kingston Trio albums, otherwise I avoided their albums. I lived in California with my aunt and uncle for a few years and they had Oscar Peterson - We Get Requests, which I've had a cd of for a numbers of years. I've been turning my parents onto some great jazz. My mom loves the Coltrane-Hartman album and even bought the cd after I played it for her. Yesterday they listened to my James Moody 4A cd in the car and loved it. 4A is one of my top 10 jazz cd's for 2009. http://www.amazon.com/Moody-4A-James/dp/ B002KLAK5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qi d=1260708854&sr=1-1 | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 276 Registered: 02-2007 |
I Am Shelby Lynne (Shelby Lynne)needs to be added to my list, released in UK in late 1999 but here in Oz and maybe US in early 2000. Love her voice particularly but fine songwriter as well. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3454 Registered: 05-2005 |
How culd I forget the great album from Ambulance Ltd and Pocket Revolution by Deus, is a master 'fu*kin' piece. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1445 Registered: 08-2006 |
For them's who's interested. Robert Christgau's ballot for the best of the decade: http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/list/r s00.php Two Wussys, one LW III and one Go-Betweens. I've got no quibbles. P4K can eat it. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3332 Registered: 05-2005 |
I have been posting my top 100 of the decade in groups of ten at www.myspace.com/padraigcollins. I've just posted 20-11. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3334 Registered: 05-2005 |
And now I've just posted my top 10 of the decade at www.myspace.com/padraigcollins | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 536 Registered: 10-2008 |
havent you been 42 for the last 5 years you old codger? :-) two radiohead albums in the top 50, neither of which are kid a. get a grip man ;-) | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3335 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kevin, I wouldn't lie about my age! I only heard Kid A for the first time ever a few weeks ago. In time it might make the grade, as would Amnesiac, but I can't put them in based on a couple of listens. | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 285 Registered: 02-2007 |
Agree about Paul Weller's 22 Dreams, Padraig. Brilliant album, have listened to it frequently over last few months and always surprised. Sounds fresh with evry listen. Weller's White album!! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3337 Registered: 05-2005 |
I'm just about to play it now David as it will be my last chance this decade. I'm on a 6.15am flight to Melbourne in the morning to spend new year's on the Mornington Peninsula. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 549 Registered: 10-2008 |
more from reynolds... http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblo g/2010/jan/04/clearing-up-indie-landfill | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 550 Registered: 10-2008 |
the now defunct(and sadly missed) stylus magazine has made a temporary comeback to look over the decade just gone. our old friend alfred soto has been involved. http://www.thestylusdecade.com/intro.htm l http://www.thestylusdecade.com/ | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1706 Registered: 01-2005 |
Nice Heartbreaker review by Andrew Casillas from the above stylus magazine link. 61. Ryan Adams Heartbreaker Bloodshot, 2000 I went to a small dive bar in west Austin early one night. There was nothing particularly special about this bar; there were some stools, a pool table, an old big screen TV, $11 pitchers of Miller Lite, etc. However, I noticed that this bar had Heartbreaker on its jukebox, which I quickly realized that I had never seen on a jukebox before. Since the place was quiet, and the rest of my party had yet to arrive, I put a dollar into the machine to play a few tracks off the record. Pulling a stool up to the bar, I asked the bartender if this were a pretty popular album of choice for his patrons. He told me that customers rarely played any of the songs, and that he was the person who put the album on the jukebox on the first place. “So then you must play this record for yourself pretty often?” I asked. “Actually,” he replied, “I play it whenever people here need a bit of cheering up.” Cheering up? From Heartbreaker?? “It’s a break-up album!” I barked. The bartender then responded, coolly, “It’s a break-up album about the worst part of a break-up. After hearing this, you ain’t got nowhere to go but up.” Indeed, it’s this particular aspect of the album that makes it so resonant and beautiful: That something focusing on one of the most devastating feelings in the human experience can be liberating because it’s about someone else’s perspective of it all. It wasn’t sanitized, or optimistic, or forced to tack on a somewhat happy ending. It was brutal, and honest, and self-aware; the kind of attitude that lets you know how much shit sucks, but that this’ll all pass, and you’ll survive into tomorrow. After all, it’s just heartbreak. – Andrew Casillas | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 554 Registered: 10-2008 |
the results are in from stylus. bit of a mistake for no18 album! http://www.thestylusdecade.com/ | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1715 Registered: 01-2005 |
I can't fathom Joanna Newsom slotted in 14th. Maybe I need to give it another listen or two but I just don't see it worthy of a rating anywhere in the top 50. Begonias by Caitlin Cary (ex-Whiskeytown back-up and duet singer in Ryan Adams 1990's band) and Thad Cockrell is of the most overlooked albums of the past decade in my opinion. It has one of the best Gram Parsons/Emmylou Harris vibes since Grievous Angel. Highly recommended and it's on YepRoc!!! http://www.amazon.com/Begonias-Caitlin-C ary/dp/B0009GUTBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=m usic&qid=1262954901&sr=1-1 | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3347 Registered: 05-2005 |
I love that PJ Harvey album Kevin. Apart her first two it's her best I think. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 555 Registered: 10-2008 |
padraig, so do i. i meant the fact they credited it to the hold steady instead of pj. - unless they've amended it | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3353 Registered: 05-2005 |
Ah! That explains it! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 559 Registered: 10-2008 |
simon reynolds albums and singles of the decade. geoff, look out the blood pressure tablets before reading!! http://blissout.blogspot.com/ joanna newsome no 25 album - jeez!! | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1447 Registered: 08-2006 |
Here's Christgau's best of the year: http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Ro ck-Roll/The-Dean-s-List-The-Best-Albums- of-2009/ba-p/2031 | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 564 Registered: 10-2008 |
heres metacritics review of the decade. which, given the aim of this site, is their review of everybody elses review of the decade!!! http://features.metacritic.com/features/ 2009/best-music-of-the-decade/ |