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  Martin Schori
 Member Username: Martin_s
  Post Number: 28 Registered: 05-2006
  | | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 04:12 pm:    |  |  
  http://stripedsunlight.blogspot.com/2011 /05/go-betweens-ram-cover-story-19-oct-1 988.html    Some might like it ... | 
      
  Andrew Kerr
 Member Username: Andrew_k
  Post Number: 643 Registered: 04-2005
  | | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 10:40 am:    |  |  
  Thanks Martin, I had never seen that article. Mainly Lindy Morrison speaking very honestly about 16LL and the band relationships. They were never the same without her unique playing and attitude... | 
      
  Pádraig Collins
 Member Username: Pádraig_collins
  Post Number: 3946 Registered: 05-2005
  | | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 01:21 pm:    |  |  
  Thanks for that Martin. | 
      
  Michael Bachman
 Member Username: Michael_bachman
  Post Number: 2192 Registered: 01-2005
  | | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 08:23 pm:    |  |  
  The Go-Betweens seemed right on the cusp of making it to the next level as band with 16LL. Opening for R.E.M. certainly exposed them to new fans. Maybe BB was at fault for not pushing the videos to MTV and albums on college radio? Does anyone have the sales fiqures for it? | 
      
  skulldisco
 Member Username: Skulldisco
  Post Number: 1283 Registered: 10-2008
  | | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 08:59 pm:    |  |  
  or maybe it just wasnt that great an album michael?  i can barely listen to it now, in comparison to the superior run of albums that came before it. | 
      
  Michael Bachman
 Member Username: Michael_bachman
  Post Number: 2193 Registered: 01-2005
  | | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 12:31 pm:    |  |  
  Kev, It certainly didn't have the punch that the previous albums had without Lindy more involved in the creative process. It almost sounds like a side project in retrospect. Songs that had great lyrics, but that didn't quiet fit the style of the band. | 
      
  fsh
 Member Username: Fsh
  Post Number: 247 Registered: 05-2005
  | | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 11:40 pm:    |  |  
  I think it's funny how they give a different slant to the Australian media than they did to the English media.  The relationships in the band were never mentioned in any of the English music papers, whereas they are in the RAM article referred to above.    I have to say, they came as something of a shock to me when I read about them in David Nichols book.  They also tended to talk down their English experience in the Aussie press, whereas in the English press they tended to talk down their homeland - insular, macho culture etc. I guess that's understandable but you couldn't get away with that these days.  I think the seeds of their destruction are evident in the RAM interview - Amanda and Lindy being pissed off at being sidelined in the demoing and recording of 16LL.  Well the boys weren't for turning and that was it .... imho | 
      
  Michael Bachman
 Member Username: Michael_bachman
  Post Number: 2195 Registered: 01-2005
  | | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 01:22 pm:    |  |  
  fsh, Maybe the better alternative would have been for the whole band to move to New York instead of just Robert Vickers? | 
      
  Jerry Clark
 Member Username: Jerry
  Post Number: 1069 Registered: 08-2004
  | | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:34 pm:    |  |  
  Or for Willsteed not to join the group & have Grant play bass. There's no way they'd have achieved that lush, polished sound with the original 3-piece in place + Amanda.    Thanks for the link, Martin. | 
      
  Andrew Kerr
 Member Username: Andrew_k
  Post Number: 644 Registered: 04-2005
  | | Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 09:55 am:    |  |  
  > The relationships in the band were never mentioned in any of the English music papers    I don't know about that. I remember an NME piece where RF stated his relationship with Lindy was over, but they still met up for a 'glamorous f*** on the stairs' from time to time. That phrase has always stuck in my mind. As has 'I taught Prince all his dance moves'. |