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Kurt Stephan
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Username: Slothbert

Post Number: 151
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 04:32 am:   

This was inevitable, wasn't it? But a few artists didn't get it right the first time, or just improved massively by the time of the second album--the subject of this board being a classic example. Here's my starter list of greatest second albums:

Go-Betweens - Before Hollywood
Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings & Food
Public Image - Metal Box/Second Edition
Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Pixies - Doolittle

Also: I'm not sure if "Submarine Bells" is the Chills' second official full-length--if so, it's high up on the list.
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David Matheson
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   

Nick Drake - Bryter Later
The Go-Betweens - Before Hollywood
The Trifids - Born Sandy Devotional
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XY765
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Username: Judge

Post Number: 21
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 01:12 pm:   

My Bloody Valentine: Loveless
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Eke
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 01:37 pm:   

Brilliant call on Born Sandy Devotional. Treeless Plain was a good debut but the Triffids couldn't have got it righter on their second.

I can't improve on the suggestions above although honourable mention to the Shins for Chutes Too Narrow.
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abigail law
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 01:59 pm:   

a pedant writes:

Loveless wasn't MBV's second album, it was third after ecstasy and wine and isn't anything.
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XY765
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   

Well called Abigail, and would I be incorrect to suggest it was actually their fourth, their first being 'This is Your Bloody Valentine' or was that an EP? I don't have either of those just Isn't Anything, Loveless and the Loveless EPs...
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jerry hann
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 02:29 pm:   

The Band-The Band I think that was the second after Music for Big Pink, but i could be wrong!
Brewing Up with Billy Bragg.
Any takers on Easy Pieces-By Lloyd Cole (a bit of a let down after the near perfect Rattlesnakes)
These don't really fit in but some artists continued to get stronger.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 05:01 pm:   

"Volume 2"--The Beau Brummels. And it would be even better yet if they'd included the outtakes.
"Buffalo Springfield Again"
"The Sweet Keeper"--Tanita Tikaram
"White Light"--Gene Clark. If we don't consider the Dillard & Clark albums to be in the sequence.
"Odyssey & Oracle"--Zombies
"Back Door Men"--Shadows of Knight
"Kinda Kinks"
"West of Rome"--Vic Chesnutt

I've had someone recommend Billy Bragg to me. What should I expect? Any comparisons?
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 05:40 pm:   

go-betweens - before hollywood
micrdisney - clock comes down the stairs
nick drake - bryter layter
cocteau twins - head over heels
smiths - meat is murder
style council - our favorite shop (internationalists in the US)
bauhaus - mask
joy division - closer
new order - power, corruption, and lies
wire - chairs missing
blue oyster cult - tyranny and mutation
durutti column - LC
modern english - after the snow
pil - metal box
teardrop explodes - wilder
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kevin
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   

wire - chairs missing
pil - metal box
rem - reckoning
stooges - funhouse
culture - harder than the rest
white stripes- de stiijl
MBV - Loveless

Another pedant writes:
Abigail - Ecstacy and Wine was a comp, so imo doesnt count.

"At the time of this early compilation's release in February '89 MBV were none too pleased, branding it a cash-in by their former label Lazy Records as they enjoyed their new-found high profile with Creation"
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spence
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 07:01 pm:   

The Stranglers - Black and White

Whilst I am on, I signed to Lazy Records at the time of Birdland with my group Elizabeth Jane (we were abit like Document period REM crossed with Televisison and The Soft Boys!). Lazy were an absolute joke at the time. The best thing we did on that label was touring with The Primitives, and every night we used to go into the dressing room afetr we'd played and knock all the guitars over that were all lovingly tuned to perfection by their wee cockney roadie, we used to hug them whilst reaking of alcahol trying to make up with them, but Tracey Tracey was never having any of it!
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kevin
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 01:13 am:   

Forgot The Only Ones - Even Serpents Shine
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Jerry Clark
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Username: Jerry

Post Number: 180
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:54 am:   

Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions...
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Fluke - 6 Wheels On My Wagon
R.E.M. - Reckoning
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Roger Griffin
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:58 am:   

The The - Soul Mining
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 196
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:06 pm:   

for the jools holland solo alone...
(I know Uncertain Smile orihginal 12'' was masterful!)
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 197
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:24 pm:   

Oh, Duncan Dhu - Canciones (They sound like some dreadful old fsahioned Euro Song Contest entry from '79 on first listen,) but believe me they grow on you, given half the chance you can sample them on itunes.
Paul Haig - The Warp of pure fun. (not counting the Paul Haig sings Sinatra or whatever it was called)
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:37 pm:   

Slowdive - Souvlaki
Pale Saints - In Ribbons
Julia Fordham - Porcelain
Richard Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights
Fairport Convention - Unhalfbricking
Bob Dylan - Freewheeling
Cream - Disraeli Gears
Jefferson Airplane - Suralastic Pillow
Lou Reed - Berlin

I can't believe 2 people put Reckoning over Murmur.
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spence
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:41 pm:   

Nor me, Murmur was a Murmer, Reckoning, well Stipe reckoned didn't he!?

Pale Saints In Ribbons, nice choice, was that the one with the free 7'' with brass band version of two of the songs, they were really billiant.
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XY765
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Username: Judge

Post Number: 26
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   

Michael, sorry to be pedantic but wasn't 'Berlin' Lou Reed's 3rd solo album after 'Lou Reed' and 'Transformer'? I think i'd also pick those two over Berlin as well.
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spence
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Post Number: 201
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   

XY765, are you related to R2D2?
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Jerry Clark
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   

Berlin is a bit of a downer.
White Light White Heat
Paris 1919
The Man Who Sold The World
I can't remember, is Forever Changes Love's 2nd LP? If so it's gotta go in.
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kevin
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:52 pm:   

Pedants corner again Im afraid

Berlin was Lou Reeds 3rd album, after the self titled debut came Transformer.
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Wilson Davey
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Username: Wilson

Post Number: 43
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:41 pm:   

Jeff,

I overplayed Rattlesnakes and it began to grate so much that I haven't listened to it in over 15 years. I thought Easy Pieces was very lacking and I did agree with the Cole backlash that followed it. Brand New friend was good but it was all to knowing and smug and safe. He delivered with Jennifer she said, great song, but I did fall out of love with Lloyd I'm afraid..We needed the Stone Roses to come along and shake things up a bit.

My second LP choice would be "Other Songs" by Ron Sexsmith. Mitchel Froom's production really suited those songs. "Strawberry Blonde" could be covered by either Robert or Grant.
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Roger Griffin
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:00 pm:   

Spence - yes Jools is the master! I love that solo too. Reminds me of Mike Garson's incredible solo on Aladdin Sane.

Jerry, The Man Who Sold The World was 3rd after Davd Bowie (Deram) and David Bowie aka Space Oddity (Philips). Nice choice, though - way ahead of the pack, he was.
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XY765
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 09:34 am:   

Spence, R2D2 huh? heh heh good one, I've been called worse...keeping the scientific line going, are there any Magnetic Fields fans out there?
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   

Jerry

'Forever Changes' was Love's 3rd, after self titled debut and 'Da Capo'. In those days before everything was reissued on CD, the only way of getting hold of a lot of obscure 60s stuff was to buy Greek. No idea why, but there was a lot of deleted vinyl still available in Greece: they were not manufactured from the original masters and frequently the covers looked liked someone had taken a photo of an original cover. But it was a good way to hear Love's first or Tim Buckley's 'Blue Afternoon'...

Rambling over
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 06:02 pm:   

XY765, I like Magnetic Fields and Stephin Merritt too, but with reservations. "69 Love Songs" is a masterpiece--a desert island disc for sure--and "Charm of the Highway Strip" is pretty good too. The others I haven't liked as much (I thought "i" was a complete dud--sounded like "69" outtakes), although the first 6ths album he made with guest singers, "Wasp's Nest," is great synth-pop.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 07:10 pm:   

Sorry, I forgot about Transformer, so yeah, Berlin
was the 3rd Lou.

>Pale Saints In Ribbons, nice choice, was that >the one with the free 7'' with brass band >version of two of the songs, they were really >billiant.

Don't know about the free 7". I bought my import CD back in 1992 or so and it was pretty expensive as I recall. I am a huge shoegazer/dreampop fan as you can guess by my first two choices. The first two Slowdive albums are now available in remastered double disc versions and are a must get for any shoegazer fan.
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Geoff Holmes
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Username: Geoff

Post Number: 55
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:33 am:   

Don't forget....
The Blurred Crusade - The Church
With the Beatles
Can't believe, along with others, that people don't rate "Murmer". I LOVE "Reckoning" probably slightly better than "Murmer" but it was the start.
Similarly Wilder over Kilimanjaro!!!
Similarly with White light over the 1st one.
What about the real slow coaches, like the Jam who took until their 3rd to really hit home.

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