| Author | Message | ||
     spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 649 Registered: 05-2005 |
This is a really great book that's been discounted on Amazon. i love it, on my second reading. Post punk 78 - 84. Its well put togeteher and a must for all you crazy new wavers out there that wanna relive your past! http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0571215696/026-6593056-4352444?v=glance&n=266 239 | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 710 Registered: 05-2005 |
Its a great book Spence - Hardin and I have raved about it countless times on here over the past year. There is also an accompanying album. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rip-It-Up-Start-Again-Postpunk-1978-1984-Compiled-Simon- Reynolds/dp/B000F5GJZA/sr=1-1/qid=1156935393/ref=sr_1_1/026-6141540-6254030?ie=U TF8&s=music | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 650 Registered: 05-2005 |
Great album too kev!, What a track listing! Who picked em, Simon? They obviously knew what theuwere doing, more than a lot of the people who compile New Wave/Punk reissues. Bought one for a 999 track the other day for 99p, it was best of punk and ithad Ultravox on it!!!!!!!! Post John Foxx too!!!!!! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 711 Registered: 05-2005 |
It does look a great tracklist Spence, but I think as has been discussed here before there are some glaring omissions, presumably for copyright reasons. No Gang of 4, No Pil, No Wire - possibly the big 3 bands of the era in my opinion. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 633 Registered: 03-2006 |
That guy can write - that was a helluva book and I read it cover to cover, like a novel... Particularly instructive for me, as a Yank...even if I'd heard of some of the bands I really didn't know much of the history...Illuminating, too, about groups I did know a lot about, like Talking Heads... I'm ready for his next book. Get the lead out, Simon! | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 487 Registered: 04-2005 |
Hardin, Kev, and me! There's a thread about that one awhile back. Great book! I loaned my copy out and I want it back so I can read it again. I didn't know about the CD, though. Reading the book sent me out searching the used bins to pick up albums by groups I'd ignored in their day, such as Heaven 17 and ABC. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 138 Registered: 04-2006 |
the book was fine even when after i have read a few hundred pages i felt a little bit of fatigue. and kurt, to owe heaven 17 and abc albums is the right decision. abc's second album is fabulous (the first surely, too, but nobody expected that different second one). ___________________________ at that height of the fighting (helahu)!!! | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 382 Registered: 08-2004 |
ABC took the new-romantic tag beyond the logical limit. The Night You Murdered Love is soooooo spot on. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 653 Registered: 05-2005 |
I see a diversion up ahead! For me the book needs not to be read in one go, but cherry picked instead. Its far too long to trudge through. Also, because the choice of artists is really from one end of the scale to off it, its best to seek out what you like then go back. "That's the way to do it " Andreas!! | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 657 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt, thought I'd seen it, I posted for anyone who might want it but was concerned with the original higher price tag. If anyone is into Factory there is a really blunt and funny DVD out http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/shadowplayersfilm.html Its really great. I'll say no more (makes a change I hear you all sigh)! | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 498 Registered: 04-2005 |
That DVD sounds great--thanks for the link, Spence. I think I'd rather spend my money on that than the postpunk CD. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 145 Registered: 04-2006 |
i think i have to buy this immediately. thanks, spence. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 146 Registered: 04-2006 |
distracted by the factory dvd. i forgot to say what i want to say: spence, i read the book on my way to work and back home. and it took very long to finish. maybe that's one reason i thought that the book is a little bit boring at the end. another reason is that some bands and artists at the end of the book weren't not so interesting to me. your aspect to use it more like a reference book is worth to discuss. maybe it is the better way to read the book. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 147 Registered: 04-2006 |
shit, amazon in germany didn't list that dvd. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 505 Registered: 04-2005 |
I read the book straight through, Andreas, and I did find it got a bit sluggish later on, probably because the music being described in later chapters was less interesting to me. But the first half at least I found riveting. It probably is best viewed as a reference book to be absorbed in single chapter chunks. It's well-indexed, which helps. Also, the chronology got a little confusing at times--the writer's attempt to make it read like a chronological progression didn't always work because there was so much overlap in various postpunk movements, regions, etc. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 661 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt , I think Simon says that at the beginning somehwrwe ref the crossing over and the scattered nature of dates etc. Its a bloody mammoth project. I'd never of done it so hats off to the guy. andreas yeah you can order dvd direct from james nice at LTM, its cheap! | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 152 Registered: 04-2006 |
thanks spence, ltm seems great. about the film i am now not sure if i should order it, because i assume that i will not understand a lot. maybe i should prefer to order this 'umbrella in the sun' dvd..... | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 153 Registered: 04-2006 |
this website (ltm) moves me to tears. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 664 Registered: 05-2005 |
andreas you understand English on here fine don't you!? You are much better at understanding a language than I am! Go for it. Umbrellas in the sun is great, its a bit avant garde in places, but if your happy with the rough and the smooth!!!! ltm is great. i have known james nice for over 20 years. i bought his first two compilations in 1985 and 1986 called heures sans soliel and minutes. he also released a great now rare william burroughs lp called docor is on the market. these are not available on his catalogue unfortunetaly but loads of crepescule and factory benelux stuff is. i recommend winston tong - theoretically chinese cd and dislocation dance.  | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 156 Registered: 04-2006 |
unfortunately sometimes i have problems to understand you guys. so i can't participate on all discussions. as long as i think about the correct wording sometimes you discuss other thinks. but, nevertheless, i am a curious one and i thnk about of buying those two dvd. i never recognised LTM. that's a shame. another shame is, that i sold all my winston tong lp's somewhere in the eighties. when i think about what lp's i have sold over the last thirty years (and for what sales revenues) i could cry - and you guys certainly would cry too (if you know what i have sold) . | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 157 Registered: 04-2006 |
i forgot to mention that i understood the rip it up-book very good. thanks simon for 'easy' writing. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 661 Registered: 03-2006 |
We had a discussion a while back, Andreas, about how many CDs and LPs we all had...as you can imagine, we all shocked each other with the size of our collections. I think Mr. Collins won the "contest"....How many CDs and LPs do you have, Andreas? Sounds like a sizable collection... I understand completely why you sometimes need to sell some - unless you live in a huge house with a lot of storage, it's a struggle just having room enough to keep them! I am continually weeding down my collection and usually use the "year rule"...if I haven't listened to it in a year, off it goes, unless it's something incredibly essential, like say, the GoBees (though, since I listen to them frequently, would never be subject to the year rule) or Tito Puente...but yes, I have shed more than a few tears when I've realized I sold something I shouldn't have...what hurts even more is having to re-purchase something you realize was indispensable (too late), which I've done, too. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 158 Registered: 04-2006 |
little keith, that discussion was certainly funny and interesting. what a pity that i don't know whom all i have to salute in this matter. where can i find this discussion? not much albums hasn't left: 1750 lp's and 1000 cd's still pile up. and little keith, your last sentence hit the mark. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 663 Registered: 03-2006 |
That thread is here, in "Off-Topic", and is called "Does Record Collection Size Matter?". | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 159 Registered: 04-2006 |
i read the thread partially. thanks LK. what me impressed most, was kevin's information about brian eno's collection - just 10. this is admirable. but i think i will not reach that high level of asceticism. |