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kevin
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Post Number: 756
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 02:42 am:   

Shamelessly ripped off from this months Uncut.

Great albums that influenced no one, because they were just impossible to imitate

Van Morrison's Astral Weeks, Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss America and Nico's Marble Index were suggestions put forward.

I would nominate Metal Box by PIL

Whats yours?
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Kurt Stephan
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Username: Slothbert

Post Number: 534
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 03:00 am:   

Well, that's a ridiculous claim--at least two of those Uncut mentioned influenced PLENTY of people (esp. Astral Weeks). Being influenced by something is one thing, replicating the sound of something, that's something different. So, that said, these may have influenced tons of people, but I don't think anyone replicated them:

Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Scott Walker - Tilt
Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 534
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 03:02 am:   

LOL. Kurt, your mention of the Shaggs just set me up perfectly for the evening!
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 535
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 03:03 am:   

Glad I could be of assistance!
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spence
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Post Number: 701
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 09:19 am:   

Jeff would like this one.
The man on your street - The Happy Family
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kevin
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Post Number: 801
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 10:08 pm:   

Does anybody else agree with me that TV On The Radio are pretty unique? Nobody else really sounds like them. I thought the first album showed promise, brilliant in patches. The new one is sensational, at this moment in time my album of the year because it ticks all the boxes - original, got attitude, tunes, challenging without being unlistenable.
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 588
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 11:19 pm:   

Kevin, I think you're right. I bought their first album and wasn't quite convinced, but at the same time, I couldn't quite figure them out or pigeonhole them. And that, I think, is the sign of a band putting the pieces together in a different way. I'll have to check out their new one; I haven't heard it yet.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 393
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 12:02 am:   

Kevin, the thing about Metal Box is that, in my humble opinion, the Rapture blatantly ripped off a song or two from said album on their debut. I can't remember the song title, but I could definitely hear that as a strong influence.

Spence - I'd agree, The Man on Your Street would be kind of a hard one to imitate. And a fine album to boot.

Here's one:

The Associates - 4th Drawer Down

I know most people probably find Billy MacKenzie's pseudo-operatic warbling insufferable, but I *love* this record (it's a collection of singles, really). It really sounds like nothing else. A stunning and original fusion of soulful (and soul-influenced) pop hooks and total art-damaged weirdness.

And a few more:
Wire - 154, Chairs Missing - At least no one's really imitated these successfully

Durutti Column - 1st three albums - no one plays guitar quite like Vini Reilly

Side 2 of David Bowie's Low also comes to mind.

I'm sure I'll think of a few more....
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andreas
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 08:39 am:   

once in this fabulous forum i wrote, that when i listen to the cookie album of tv on the radio it reminds me totally of a.r. kane. does anyone remembers this great band? and if, have someone the same impression?
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Jerry Clark
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Post Number: 395
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   

Fourth Drawer Down is unstoppable.
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andreas
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Post Number: 213
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 05:42 pm:   

yes, 4th drawer down is great.

the complete work of van dyke parks (and not only song cycle) is -i suppose- unique.
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spence
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Post Number: 744
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 08:43 pm:   

I concure all of jeff's too.

Add Sulk - Associates. Nothing sounds like Party Fears Two.

kev, tv on the radio, great name read alot, need to buy, its worth my while yeah?
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spence
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Post Number: 745
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 08:44 pm:   

The Go Betweens
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 572
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 03:20 am:   

I bought an AR Kane album once and really did not like it at all. Must dig it out if I still have it. I only got it because of their involvement in M/A/R/R/S (they were the A/R part of the equation of course).
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kevin
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Post Number: 808
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   

another vote for 4th Drawer Down. I also remember buying all the 12" singles on the Situation 2 label that made up this album, seem to recall they were releasing a single every month back then.
Spence, buy TV on the Radio with confidence, if you need more persuading all these guys seem to like it http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/tvontheradio/returntocookiemountain - to get an average score of 87 out of 100 based on 32 reviews is pretty impressive

The guy with the dreadlocks from A.R. Kane bought me a beer once before a Butthole Surfers gig, he was friends with Simon from the Cocteau Twins, who was friends with my friend (christ it sounds confusing) - he was a really nice guy, very down to earth. wonder what he's doing now?
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spence
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Post Number: 748
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:41 pm:   

cheers kevinio!
yeah ar kane, they seemed to have all the critics on their side, in '87/'88.
I remember MARRS song well, it really did seem quite revolutionary at that time in the UK. Having the 4AD imprint really gave it cred with the anti-commercial establashment!
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spence
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Post Number: 749
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   

Tuxedo Moon are pretty unique. Along with Devo and The Residents.
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andreas
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Username: Andreas

Post Number: 222
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:45 pm:   

pere ubu and all david thomas solo projects, definitely!
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Michael Bachman
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Username: Michael_bachman

Post Number: 203
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 05:32 pm:   

Kate and Anna McGarrigle's eponymus debut from
1975. The Roches tried to copy it, but never came close.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 394
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 03:19 am:   

Thought of a few more:

Pink Industry - just about anything they did. Very cool, artsy, textural, kind of difficult but generally gorgeous synth-based pop from the early to mid 80s. I can't think of anyone else who sounds like them; entirely their own unique world, inhabited only by them.

Japan - Tin Drum. A longtime favorite of mine, again, very artsy, and no one could even touch this one, try as many new romantics did. All Duran Duran could successfully plunder was Japan's hair and fashion sense.
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spence
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Post Number: 756
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 09:09 am:   

jeff, pink industry nice spot! very true, however surely japan were wearing ferry's trousers?!
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 208
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 04:09 pm:   

Jeff, I just ordered Japan - Tin Drum yesterday.
I am looking foreward to getting it.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 396
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 04:45 pm:   

Indeed, Spence, Japan blatantly stole the New York Dolls' wardrobe in their early days, then copied Bryan Ferry when they got all suave and artsy, although they added a thick layer of make-up and hair-dye. But still, by the time of Gentelmen Take Polaroids and Tin Drum, they didn't sound like anyone else around. I have a little theory that by the time of Roxy Music's good (but slick) "Avalon," Ferry et al. were trying to play catch up with Japan and all the other sensitive new romantics they originally inspired.

Michael - I hope you at least find Tin Drum interesting. It's been one of my very favorite albums for years and years. Most people I play it for seem to like it, though I've met a few people who can't stomach Mick Karn's bass playing. It probably sounds strange and dated to most people, but it is pretty darn unique. The only other album that comes to mind that at times might sound vaguely similar is Blue Nile's first album, "Walk Across the Rooftops." I mean, they're definitely different sounding albums (Blue Nile didn't have that strong Asian influence), but there are some similarities if you listen closely.
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TROU
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   

Japan was the first real concert I saw (in Brussel). It was fantastic ! 'Gentelmen' and 'Tin drum' were also my favourite albums at that time.

I've just bought the new dvd. I hope it's fine.
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Jerry Clark
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Post Number: 396
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 05:46 pm:   

Loved Tin Drum, one of the first albums I owned on cassette. It was so good they had to split up.
I love Mick Karn's playing. Talk Talk's early albums have that kind of sound without the Eastern percusion.
Has anyone got the reissue with extras? I've never upgraded my copy from that old tape. Are the extras worth having?
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 213
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 07:33 pm:   

I am familiar with Karn's bass playing, as I have The Waking Hour by Dalis Car, the group featuring Peter Murphy and Mick Karn. I love the song Dali's Car, the first cut from The Waking Hour album. I must have heard that cut 15 years ago or more from a radio show that I taped and I still have the tape! I only bought the cd though when it became domestically available a few years ago.It was the same radio program that introduced me to the G-B's in Novemeber of 1988, so needless to say it was a very influential!
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   

Tim Buckley's 'Starsailor' is most certainly totally unique: still an unsettling experience to listen to and the release that effectively killed his career. And apparently the live performances of this period were even more extreme: pure vocal improvisation.

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