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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 721
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 08:54 pm:   

any wilco fans on this board, kev? Jerry's? Jeff? LK?
do you know, wait for it! do you know who jeff tweedy meets and gives an autograph to in the street whilst walking down a street with tony his manager in the dvd i am tring to break your heart?
its bugging me.
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XY765
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Username: Judge

Post Number: 92
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 09:06 am:   

Big Wilco fan here. I even got that Wilco book to get the extra disc from the Ghost is Born sessions. Also have the DVD, thought she was just a passer-by??
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 726
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 09:51 am:   

xy, i did at first but jeff seems to recognise her sorta thing?
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XY765
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Post Number: 93
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 10:06 am:   

Spence, i thought he was just kinda surprised, he did ask did the DVD people set it up! It has to be one of the better music DVDs out there...

Tweedy has a solo DVD coming out on Nonesuch records in October, not sure why exactly...would much prefer a solo record, though i understand Wilco are in the studio or mixing a new album.

Have you heard any Loose Fur material Spence?? I think they're really good.
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spence
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Post Number: 728
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 10:44 am:   

Judge!
yeah maybe it was a set up, its just an odd thing that it makes the final edit. Can't get ovber how much Tony M looks like my late Uncle Davey!!
Know what you mean ref Tweedy record, although i really cherish DVD, love the visual thing going on. I really find it useful to draw inspiration, actually watching people do stuff. The Wilco dvd has inspired me greatly and will continue to do so.
I am gulity of not really catching any of the Loose Fur stuff i MUST get everything I can with Tweedy's name on it.
Glenn kotche album is great. I really found him to be quite an amazing drummer. I saw Wilco in Birmingham England a couple of years ago, there was literally no one there really, upstaris at this club called the Academy. Morrissey played the large room there and Wilco have the small, it was really really intimate, they played a wide choice of stuff, the Ghost material really sounded wonderful, but just to look at them was amazing, they had to be pulled off at 10.30 so the clubbers could use the room! how crazy is that!!!? I remember them ending with Spiders and the new generation peeking in through the side door looking in at Wilco wondering what the fu*k was going on as they trawled through Spiders - Kidmoke!!!! The clubbers were witnessing probably their only Krautrock experience, the look on their faces! I really think they are gifted. I hope they carry on forever, that's what I and many others would have hoped for withthe GB's.
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XY765
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Post Number: 94
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 11:03 am:   

Spence, yep they're incredible live though only saw them once in Dublin touring YHF. One of my all time favourite gigs and I didn't know any of their stuff at the time apart from the Mermaid Avenue albums with Billy Bragg.

I could watch hours of them playing songs from YHF in the Loft, the director had incredible access to the band at such a rocky time too. Crazy to think they were dropped by one arm of Sony only to be re-signed by another arm of them..

What's that Glenn Kotche 'Mobile' album like Spence?

Another Tweedy one worth geting is a soundtrack to an Ethan Hawke film called Chelsea Walls, it's Tweedy & Kotche doing score for the film. Film slightly pretentious/boring but kinda intersting. I really enjoy it, really good instrumental work from the two of them plus one unreleased Wilco song 'Promising' and an unreleased Mermaid Avenue song, both crackers. I got it from Amazon.com about a year ago...

I wish they'd come around touring these parts again, the last time they were in Ireland they played the Oxygen festival which I wouldn't go near, dodgy crowd.
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 729
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 11:40 am:   

Hi Judge
Glenn album is great, its avant garde, very soothing. I was once woke by his music on BBC radio 3 which was on at 4am in the morning ini my twin daughters bedroom and I clocked the time of the music and checked the playlist the next day and it was Glenn's music! So I had to get it!
I wish Wilco would set up a live cam in the loft!
I know someone who played with them around YHF and said they were great men!
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Little Keith
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Username: Manosludge

Post Number: 762
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 04:33 pm:   

I'm a fairly big Wilco fan, Spence, though "Ghost" lost me a little bit, to be honest. It did have its moments, however.

"Kicking Television" completely won me back. I thought it was a magnificent set that was just great, start to finish, including the soul chestnut they cover.

I saw them a couple of times in Louisiana, when they were a little more alt-countryish and less avant-garde, which period I enjoyed just as much. It's funny, right after Uncle Tupelo broke up, everybody in my circle in Baton Rouge, all the media I read, etc., seemed to think that Farrar's output with Son Volt was vastly superior to Wilco's A.M. Look at them now. Jay Farrar could barely get arrested and Wilco is pretty much the toast of the alternative world and a huge critics' darling.

The two records they did of Woody Guthrie songs w/ Billy Bragg are outstanding, btw. Prized items in my collection...

I did see the doc but I have no memory of the scene you're talking about - it was years ago I saw it. Sorry.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 04:52 pm:   

Hardin, Right you are concerning the early days of Son Volt and Wilco! I also thought Son Volt had a brighter future after both their first albums. "Tear Stained Eye" still holds up nicely 11 years later though as my favorite song by either group.
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Little Keith
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Username: Manosludge

Post Number: 766
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 05:14 pm:   

That record, "Trace", is a masterpiece! and yeah, how far Jay Farrar has fallen...I saw them, in their original, brilliant line-up a few times too, and they were amazingly great.

The audience, btw, always sings "Tear-Stained Eye" word for word - Farrar's participation is hardly even necessary.
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spence
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Post Number: 732
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   

LK go see em, they are still a rock n roll band, the avant garde is not on everything, they really really rock live I mean huuuuuuuughhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Son Volt never heard but i loved them when they wer together.
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andreas
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Post Number: 192
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   

strange, but i never felt in love with wilco. i tried it several times, but it didn't work as well as son volt didn't work with me. loved uncle tupelo and that was it.

i have some more bands that didn't find the way to my heart. pavement for example. highly praised everywhere. i love nothing of their output. strange, indeed.

btw: what happened with jay farrar? when i read th eabove postings it didn't sound very well.
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 773
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 09:21 pm:   

What happened with Jay Farrar? Basically nothing (which is the problem). Despite starting out really strong, he just kind of faded into obscurity. He still makes records, but they are not, by all accounts, critical successes or burning up the charts...
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kevin
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Post Number: 795
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 12:11 am:   

Thanks Hardin for talking about Trace. I have not heard it in years so naturally this post got me digging through my "not played for years" pile of music. I think I can listen to it objectively now, because before I (unfairly)compared Son Volt to Uncle Tupelo and Wilco and they seemed to come up short. You're right, this is a great album, although perhaps not a masterpiece. Its funny, I used to always think Jay Farrar sounded very much like Michael Stipe, now I dont think he does. How weird is that?
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 586
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 12:26 am:   

I'm not that knowledgeable about Jay Farrar, but doesn't he have a reputation as kind of a no-fun dick to be around? I've heard he has a very "no sense of humor allowed" attitude toward his music (or maybe just his bandmates?). Tweedy's no angel, but it seems like he's got a sense of humor at least. Farrar may have managed to alienate a lot of people--including fans--and that doesn't help one's career that much.
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Little Keith
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Username: Manosludge

Post Number: 775
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 01:04 am:   

JF certainly seems to take himself way too seriously, I'll tell ya that. I've seen him a few times and his audience-interaction skills are not the strongest I've ever seen. He's so affectless, a friend of mine thinks he's a heroin addict.

Kev, all I'm sayin's compare Trace to A.M. There's no contest. Even if Wilco has completely eclipsed all memories of SV by now...Basically, SV got worse and Wilco got a whole helluva lot better.
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 776
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 01:18 am:   

ps - Kev, I actually DO get the Stipe-Farrar comparison. I hear it - particularly, in the more ballady stuff. You could, for instance, easily imagine Jay singing "(Don't Go Back to) Rockville"...
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 735
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 10:28 am:   

for wilco non believers, the only way to graspo the candle as it were would be to, 1, see them live, 2, buy yankee hotel foxtrot, ghost is born and kincking television and finally, 3, watch their dvd, i am tring to break your heart. then, my friends, you should understand them. of course, you don't have to do any of these and just tell me to go away!!
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jerry hann
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Post Number: 230
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 03:07 pm:   

I love "Being There" the double album sprawl of gems
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andreas
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 08:45 am:   

spence, maybe they do not function with me because i haven't seen them live. but the albums are familiar to me and i really not very euphoric about them, therefore the idea to go to a concert of them came to me.

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