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     Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 810 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jon Auer - Six Feet Under (free download) Jose Gonzales - Love Will Tear Us Apart (I like it. Good cover) Jose Gonzales - Stay In The Shade Josh Rouse - Bedroom Classics, Vol 2 EP (brilliantly atmospheric, almost Southern Soul EP) Josh Rouse - A Well Respected Man (great cover of The Kinks song) Josh Rouse - Subtitulo (a lovely, gentle album). You can guess what letter I'm going through on iTunes! | ||
| Donat Member Username: Donat Post Number: 214 Registered: 11-2004 |
Are you heading towards Joy Divison by any chance? I'm listening to The Chills 'Kaleidoscope World' and The Velvet Underground 'Legendary Guitar Amp Tapes' | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 812 Registered: 05-2005 |
I'm onto C.W. McCall's Convoy Donat! Get it at http://www.cybertrucker.co.uk/convoy.htm | ||
| Donat Member Username: Donat Post Number: 215 Registered: 11-2004 |
Breaker 1-9 I gotcha there 10-4 there big buddy. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 919 Registered: 05-2005 |
Donat, whats the Velevets Amp tapes all about? Thanks. | ||
| Donat Member Username: Donat Post Number: 218 Registered: 11-2004 |
http://agonyshorthand.blogspot.com/2006/07/velvet-underground-legendary-guitar.h tml Have a read of that Spence. It's better than what that appraisal says. | ||
| Wolfgang Steinhardt Member Username: Berbatov Post Number: 16 Registered: 09-2006 |
Five Stars, ten points, 100% each: Meat Puppets - Up on the sun and Huevos Metal Urbain - Anarchy in Paris Eleventh Dream Day - Prairie School Freakout Andreas; if you don't mind to start our first middle-european GoBi's "convention" a little bit later you might drop your contact details here: steinhardt@erasmushaus.ch. I've got always a million people to meet and see when I'm in Berlin aber ne Molle und ein Fachgespräch wär schön :-) | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 845 Registered: 04-2005 |
Thanks for the VU link, Donat. I had it years ago and listened to a bit of it, then forgot about it. I'm looking forward to checking it out again. What I'm listening to now: Boo Radleys - Everything's Alright Forever I missed this band in their day and just recently picked this up in a used bin. I'm really diggin' it. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 720 Registered: 03-2005 |
First item in the CD changer in the car is "Lost in the Former West" by Fatima Mansions. Yep, no Steely Dan moves here, Padraig. I didn't know that was Sean O'Hagen's contribution to Microdisney. I never really knew what his contribution was. Guitar's a little heavy-handed but Cathal's as sharp as hoped. It's a short drive to work and I've only gotten through "Popemobile to Paraguay" since I decided to leave the car at work and take the bus home. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 76 Registered: 09-2006 |
Since watching Fallen Angel yesterday I've been bathing in Gram Parsons music. Also: Andy Fairweather-Low - Wide-Eyed and Legless: the A&M Recordings | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1110 Registered: 05-2005 |
Skream - Skream - Dubstep prodigys first album Big Youth - Everyday Skank, The Best of Big Youth. Pernice Brothers - Live A little - This may be their most tuneful album yet. The Chills - Soft Bomb Gang of Four - Entertainment - still sounds as vital as the day it was released. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 83 Registered: 08-2006 |
Allen, I love those Andy Fairweather-Low albums collected on "The A&M Recordings." I was surprised to learn he has an album out, his first in forever. The sounds clips I heard sounded terrific. Have you heard it? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 724 Registered: 03-2005 |
I have never heard any of Andy Fairweather-Low's records. I am only familiar with him as the voice in Amen Corner. He has a very distinctive voice. What sort of stuff does he do as a solo act? Does he write his own songs? Amen Corner were not known for that. Who does the productions? | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 86 Registered: 08-2006 |
He does write his own music, Randy. And Glyn Johns did the production on at least two of the three CDs on "The A&M Years." I don't know how I'd describe his solo stuff - it's very loose, spry and tuneful, and he sings well. Considering he's known as an ace guitar player, it's surpring it's not really guitar music. It's more about the tunes than the riffs, I'd say. I'm amazed, given how good his 70s output was, that he hasn't made a record in, like, 20-some years. I'd be curious to hear the new one. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1112 Registered: 05-2005 |
808 State - ex:el - one of the elrctro albums from the early 90s. Dr Alimantado - The Best Dressed Chicken In Town - possibly the best DJ album ever Centro-matic - All The Falsest Hearts Can Try - this band is really underrated - anybody into them? Pavement - Wowee Zowee - the "hardest" Pavement album to get into, anybody got the double disc re-issue? | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 849 Registered: 04-2005 |
Wowee Zowee hasn't been released yet in the States, I believe--or maybe it came out yesterday. It's definitely at the top of my shopping list, as it was my favorite album by them, but my copy disappeared when my car was stolen about five years ago, and I never got around to replacing it. Pitchforkmedia wasn't too enthused about the bonus disc, but who cares...it's Pitchfork, right? | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 88 Registered: 08-2006 |
"Wowee Zowee" is my favorite Pavement album, too, Kurt, despite - or perhaps because of - Kevin's accurate description of it as the "hardest" of their discs to get into. Don't know if I'll pick up the double. My single still suits me fine. And Kevin, I've never heard of Centro-matic. Describe, please. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1113 Registered: 05-2005 |
Rob, I always struggle to describe how bands sound on this forum. The best way I can think of putting it is I would put them in the Americana camp, but more guitar orientated and similar to Son Volt or Drive by Truckers. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 310 Registered: 04-2006 |
kevin ayers - shooting at the moon kings of convenience - riot on an empty street rory gallagher - wheels within wheels robert forster - warm nights | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 826 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kudos for the Rory mention Andreas. Hope it inspires some of the young 'uns here to check him out. (Brilliant Irish blues guitarist who also had a great voice. He died 10 years ago of liver failure; which was probably related to his drinking). Rob, I wish I had your control and wasn't conned into buying double CD reissues of stuff I'm already perfectly happy with. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 726 Registered: 03-2005 |
He'll buy it. Just wait. I finished my first in-car listen to "Lost in the Former West." I do wish that guitarist had gone off somewhere and not returned. The first few tracks to "Ole! Tarantula" accompanied me home. "Adventure Rocket Ship" immediately appealed. The next couple of songs were less attention-grabbing but, hey, it's the first listen. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 155 Registered: 04-2005 |
Andy Fairweather-Low sadly features in that horrible spread of disgusting fox-hunting supporting rock stars (see art and politics thread). Don't let that put you off though... | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 91 Registered: 08-2006 |
Is that true, Andrew? Oh, man... And Randy, you underestimate the extent of my penuriousness. I did, however, shell out for the "Born to Run" box, and a few of the Stones remasters, and the new edition of "The Who Sell Out" and... Ah, maybe I'll buy it. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1115 Registered: 03-2006 |
Since I've been on a somewhat obsessive downloading kick, I've purchased very few actual new discs, but one thing that continues to draw me is all the deluxe reissues they keep pumping out. I feel like I'm their mark, their target audience - "what would LK buy?" And, the other Pavement reissues have really been nicely done. Nice packaging, a second disc just overflowing with rarities, so...guess I'll succumb to Wowee Zowee, too...sigh... | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 304 Registered: 01-2005 |
Randy, I am seeing Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 tonight! Reviews of the Chicago show last night were very positive, the band rocks!!! | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 77 Registered: 09-2006 |
Ditto sorry to hear about the Andy F-L fox hunting thing, though I agree about not letting it put one off...if I had to purge my collection of artists with bad things in their present or past it'd become mighty small indeed...just off the top of my head: no more James Brown, Lou Reed, Miles Davis... Wasn't aware of the new AFL album, Rob, but now that I am I'm certainly curious to hear it. I agree it's a little hard to pinpoint what makes him so good...for me he was one of those artists who I spent the first few plays going "not bad, but hardly great" before the light suddenly went on. To the adjectives you list I'd add goofy, funny, impassioned. And though I hate to keep relying on Christgau to make my points for me, he does have some interesting things to say about the guy: http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=andy+fairweather+low | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 727 Registered: 03-2005 |
Michael, how was Robyn Hitchcock? Interesting reviews Allen. Christgau spends a little too much time writing about the lyrics, but the first two albums sound good. The one with "Caribbean-style percussion" sounds like a must-miss and ditto for the "funky force-beat." | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1122 Registered: 03-2006 |
"Funky force-beat" definitely sounds like something to avoid...one of those word combinations that bring on the heebie jeebies, like "processed cheese food".... | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 95 Registered: 08-2006 |
I don't have the album containing the alleged "funky force-beat" so I can't enlighten anyone as to its nature. But Randy, don't let the "Caribbean-style percussion" comment turn you off. "Be Bop 'N Holla" might be my favorite AFL CD. It's not, I swear, Buffett-esque. | ||
| jerry hann Member Username: Jerry_h Post Number: 310 Registered: 07-2005 |
I bought the Centromatic a few months ago then went back to read a post by RobertVickers who summed it up by saying a great band but let down by the songs. I agree not really played it much since. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 80 Registered: 09-2006 |
Yeah, even without the funky, force-beat sounds like someone trying way too hard, though his definition of it reveals a rhythm we all know pretty well: "John Piccarella coinage designating the ideal punk rhythm, which might be described as a flat four-four that moves faster than your body thinks it should " | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 81 Registered: 09-2006 |
Oh, and I must apologize...for some reason I've been typing AFL's name with a hyphen in there, but there is none...just sorta seemed natural to put it there, like he'd taken the name of his love in marriage... | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 313 Registered: 04-2006 |
mike bloomfield al kooper stephen stills - supersession | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 96 Registered: 08-2006 |
I put the hyphen in there, too, Allen. Where's a copy editor when you need one? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1126 Registered: 03-2006 |
Tony Bennett - Duets The Who - Endless Wire | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 858 Registered: 04-2005 |
So, what do you think of the new Who album, LK? Better than "Face Dances" or "It's Hard," at least? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1128 Registered: 03-2006 |
Umm, it's okay-ish...musically, I dunno, though it sounds okay and pretty rockin' overall, some songs seem like very slightly altered versions of Who's Next material (I believe they may have actually been composed circa that time) and on some Daltrey's vocals seem testament to some intestinal disorder. Actually, on one song, "Into the Ether", Townshend seems to be channeling Tom Waits for some reason... Now that I've gotten all the critical picayune details out of the way, I have to say that I have such innate affection for them, particularly PT, it's great to hear them. Townshend's unique songwriting imagination continues to intrigue - one song is about love at first sight with a suicide bomber and another imagines God looking forward to listening to Marty Robbins after creating the world...LK is a sucker for that kinda stuff... | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1118 Registered: 05-2005 |
I never got The Who. The first few singles were great and maybe appeal to my inner punk persona. After that they became a stodge rock band in my opinion, however I admit to only hearing "the classics" on the radio, I have never heard a Who album in full. Daltreys vocals mean this can never happen,I couldnt sit through a full album,its all cock rock to my ears. I find Townshend hard to like, maybe I find him arrogant, cant really put my finger on it. Daltreys hair and vocals make why I dislike him a nobrainer. Moon was a buffoon but at least had some personality and a unique drumming style.I know absolutely nothing about Entwhistle apart from he played bass and for some reason was called the Ox, hardly the most complimentary of names. Some groups just dont know when to give it up. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1130 Registered: 03-2006 |
So, you're saying you don't like them? | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1120 Registered: 05-2005 |
Sorry LK, just dont get them. I admire you for your vast knowledge (and love) of the British Invasion bands - as you know I dislike The Beatles and you now know I dont care for The Who. But I do love The Kinks and The Stones so thats not too bad, we yet again have some common ground  | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1121 Registered: 05-2005 |
How did you get 10 in front of me you sly dog? | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 479 Registered: 08-2004 |
Endless Wire isvery blues-ey & at times they are plagiarising themselves with synth parts. I quite like it. Concept albums are not my bag, at all. But Quadrophenia more than any of their albums strikes a note with me. Shepherd's Bush, Brighton, music, drink & drugs. It's like my teenage years coming out of the speakers. It's one of those works of art that are so depressing it becomes entertaining. Like watching Taxi Driver, the slow descent into madness is thrilling. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 859 Registered: 04-2005 |
So, LK and Kevin, you disagree on the Who and Beatles but agree on the Kinks and the Stones. That's 2-2. So we have to go to the tie-breaker: How do you feel about Herman's Hermits? | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1122 Registered: 05-2005 |
Prefer Freddie and The Dreamers myself Kurt | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 731 Registered: 03-2005 |
This thread has turned entertaining. Kevin, the Who aren't really a British Invasion act. They came on the scene about 2 years too late. Incidentally I totally agree with you about their earliest stuff being the only good stuff. I could even find things to enjoy from them after the early punk/mod stuff until "Tommy" at which point that was it; I was through. Absolutely. Let them still make records and put on shows. Let them make money. They have no relevance to me at all. My vote goes to Herman's Hermits way over Freddie and the Dreamers but only because the Hermits had the talents of Mickie Most behind them which means much better song selection and some of those great John Paul Jones arrangements. And, against all odds, they did a fiery honest-to-God thrilling version of "Jezebel" in 1967. It was an album track with, I think, no session musicians. Totally awesome. Near the end of their career they even did a cover of "Oh You Pretty Things." And they did lots and lots of sappy dreck. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 832 Registered: 05-2005 |
Red Sovine - Teddy Bear. I think I've got something in my eye. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 834 Registered: 05-2005 |
Curiosity EP by Dallas Crane. It's alright. Nothing too special. Just basis, no-frills Aussie rock. I got it today for $2.40. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 835 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt, I love Face Dances and was very dsappointed recently to hear that Townshend thought Endless Wire should be about apologising for it and It's Hard. I've played Endless Wire a couple of times and like it. LK, I agree that Daltrey's vocals are not so good in parts. He recorded them seperately with a dfferent producer, which I find very odd. Not the recording seperately part, but having a different producer. Townshend produced everything else. I prefer Townshend's vocals on the album, though the Tom Waitsian one is pretty strange. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1133 Registered: 03-2006 |
Probably not a great record, but far from a bad one. Way better than I think anybody expected. Townshend must have an incredible back catalog of songs to draw from - he seems relentlessly creative and productive, according to an interview with him in Pitchfork. Makes you wonder, doesn't he spend any time on his ass staring into space, like the rest of us? I probably agree with you, Padraig, about Townshend's vocals vs. Daltrey's, though I didn't mean to unduly diss Rog. Unlike Kev, I like him. He seems like a real, salt of the earth, regular bloke. Some of the songs Pete sings are really purty - I particularly like "You Stand By Me". Another great song I forgot to mention, sung by Raj: "Man In a Purple Dress", Townshend's meditation on the absurdity of humans judging other humans... | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1134 Registered: 03-2006 |
And Kurt, 2nd verse, same as the first: Herman's Hermits, though it'd be easy to snort dismissively at them, I have to say I like 'em and think they had their place, their right to exist, etc. Of course, having become aware of them as a wee lad, I have a certain affection for them. Now they seem like they were calculated to be non-threatening, something the Mums and Dads and little kiddies could like. In that sense, they were the anti-Stones...And, some of their stuff even holds up today: I think "Something Tells Me I'm Into Something Good" (is that the name of it, Randy?) is an excellent, ace pop song. Other icky stuff, like "Kind Of a Hush" makes me throw up in my mouth a little. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 733 Registered: 03-2005 |
Like I said, Mickie Most made sure Peter Noone & Co. got the best songs. "I'm Into Something Good" was written by Gerry Goffin & Carole King and in those days you were hard pressed to do better than that. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 938 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy what a band hey Hermens Hermits!!!!!! Great name,probably the best band name ever!! I am currently listening to Randy Adams Myspace tunes!! | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 862 Registered: 04-2005 |
Going back to the new 'Oo album (I'm going to ask all these questions to avoid actually buying it to find out the answers myself): do the bassist and drummer (Zak Starkey?) on the album try to sound like vintage Entwistle and Moon? Faces Dances and It's Hard never really sounded right because Moon's drum explosions always sparked the band, and Kenney Jones was mostly just a conventional, albeit good, timekeeper. I'm wondering if Pete and Rog wanted to get some of that old sound back by hiring a rhythm section that could mimic it. As for the "controversy" of Daltrey's vocals--cock-rock or just blustery?--I always wondered what happened to his singing after Tommy. He used to be able to sing in a higher, poppier register in the '60s, but from Who's Next on, he dropped an octave or two and always sang in that lower, macho voice. Did he lose his range, did Townshend start writing in a lower key, or did Pete keep all the higher vocals for himself? Daltrey's singing on songs like "I Can See for Miles" and "Pictures of Lily" is great, but I kind of agree with Kevin about his vocals after the band moved into their stadium rock phase. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 734 Registered: 03-2005 |
Spence, I never know when you are putting us on. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1125 Registered: 05-2005 |
I'd be worried if Spence was listening to Ryan Adams Myspace tunes !! | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 318 Registered: 04-2006 |
sparks -kimono my house the incredible string band - the hangman's beautiful daughter and a little bit hey willpower and uzi & ari | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 942 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy! No, I like your songs. They sound heartfelt, am not having you on dear fellow! Kev, I bought a RA album amongst the hype, and felt really let down, mustn't listen to the hype any longer!! | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 320 Registered: 04-2006 |
listened to kevin's most liked fall lp 'grotesque'and to the nightinggales' lp 'just the job' which complied the 45's and ep's they did at around 1983/1984. thinking about music this was a great time. thinking political it was a catastrophe. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 736 Registered: 03-2005 |
Finally listened to the The Best of Love last night. Hype notwithstanding, the songs from their first album sound weak. There were a LOT of better albums released in 1966 which was a very strong year for music. Fortunately they got themselves a new drummer for their second album because that was one of the weak spots for the first but, still, "7 & 7 Is" is the obvious standout. According to the liner notes "Alone Again Or' was not a hit. I didn't know that; it got nice solid play in Fresno and my oldest brother bought the single. It sounds like he should have bought the album. The songs from third album "Forever Changes" finally sound consistent and fine. Fascinatingly, the tracks from the post-"Forever Changes" group when Arthur Lee took an entirely new lineup are pretty good at their best. "Singing Cowboy" almost sounds like the model for Big Star, still two years in the future. I continued my journey through the enormous Fall Peel Sessions box. I still haven't played disc six. The first four discs are essential. Early things like "Futures and Pasts" are much better than on the official albums and the Brix-era band's version of "Man Whose Head Expanded" is worth the price of the whole box. With disc five the interest starts to fade, at least on first listen. I think as MES got his hands on more traditionally proficient players he lost something. And Christmas songs? I assume they were a joke but the joke misfired. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 737 Registered: 03-2005 |
Still waiting for my copy of Caroline Trettine. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1126 Registered: 05-2005 |
Orphans - Tom Waits. This truly is a landmark release. Over 50 tracks, 30 of them unreleased, and to my ears none of these sound like leftovers, presumably they didnt make the albums because they didnt suit the mood of the other songs, or because of timing/space issues. This month, as normal, I have devoured the UK magazines such as Uncut, The Word, Mojo etc and they all have one thing in common. Unanimous rave reviews from Orphans, and also for Joanna Newsom's Ys. I dont care for Ms Newsom's effort and am willing to bet that in ten, twenty years time people will still be listening to Orphans, but I cant same the same for Ys. Orphans is reviewed in todays edition of Observer Monthly Magazine, scroll down the page for review http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 946 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy, Love were an amazing group weren't they? I wished I'd lived at atime to watch them gig. When I first heard Forver Changes around '91 or '92 (that late!!) it was like, what!? I had to, had to play it again, and in doing so I could reel off the lyrics verbatim anytime I heard them. In the car, at home, wherever, that an album at odds with itself should allow me to remember the songfs like they were written especially for the hit pardade of course they wern't) still baffles me. It surely shows they had great songs. If Mr Lee and McLean were slightly off their heads, thye did it with style. Mani from the Stone Roses once quipped that you can't write or play very well at all whilst out of your head, he went on to say "you should try playing a 12 foot anaconda in front of 50,000 people!" Summit like that anyway, made me laugh. Randy, the Caroline album will be with me this week, its on lmy list to do... sorry for the delay. We have apparently nearly sold out of 200 copies, which is cool. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 947 Registered: 05-2005 |
Ahouse - I am the greatest. Amazing, even after all this time. I played withthem a few times really really loud but lovely band, I dug it out today after reading the news about a club in Birmingham where I once supported Ahouse was badly burned, made top news on the BBC, scary, spent many anight at Edwards Number Eight. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6141296.stm | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 164 Registered: 04-2005 |
Spence, Your mention of A House made me dig out a single of theirs, which is wonderful (and produced by Edwyn. Did he do a whole album?)'Endless Art'. There is also 'More Endless Art' from a Peel session which namechecks all woman artists. I believe that someone pointed out to them that the original was somewhat sexist? | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 165 Registered: 04-2005 |
And a wonderful find in my local library... Charlie Haden and Carla Bley 'Liberation Music Orchestra' "Not in Our Name". Now I just to have to track down their first collaboration from the late 60s. | ||
| TROU Member Username: Trou Post Number: 55 Registered: 05-2005 |
M.Ward - Post-War : In my top five of 2006. Aimee Mann - Christmas album : surprisingly listenable and not ridiculous but anecdotic. Magazine - Secondhand daylight : their best! Wonderstuff : the singles. Good will hunting : soundtrack | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1140 Registered: 03-2006 |
Mike Doughty - Haughty Melodic Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom Van Morrison - Into the Music Michael Hurley - Long Journey Solomon Burke - Don't Give Up On Me | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 738 Registered: 03-2005 |
I made a little sneak visit to Amoeba that I was NOT supposed to make since I was just there six days ago. Just a surgical strike, I swear . . . . The Fall -- Perverted by Language. The Peel box made me aware that I had never gotten this first Brix album. Fall CD releases were confusing back in the mid-80s when I first discovered them and this one fell through the cracks. Excellent of course. I still don't have "Dragnet." After "Perverted" I pulled out my copy of "Grotesque" which I hadn't heard in a long time. Still like this album a lot, particularly The North Will Rise Again. HAL -- This was only six bucks and I remember Padraig recommending them. Obviously a million musical miles away from the Fall. Plenty purty and harmonic, kind of a less geeky alternative to the Thrills. I probably still prefer the geek quotient afforded by the Thrills and they rock better. TROU, each of Magazine's first three albums is their best. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 847 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence, I Am The Greatest is one of my favourite ever albums. I saw them live when it came out and they were so good. Andrew, yes, Edwyn produced the album. Get it! | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 950 Registered: 05-2005 |
Edwyn's production was very gritty did you not think? Quite raw. Ahouse, I am not kidding, were so undervalued, but it was the wrong toime I guess. Dave Couse was quiet yet charming, the rest of the guys were fab too, really sweet people, around that time many of the groups we supported seemed pretty up themselves, but not Ahouse. They were very very very loud too, I cannot begin to descrbe the pain that came out of the PA when Mr Couse strummed his big fat Gretsch acoustic. We watched them soundcheck the first time we ever played with them, whilst remaining effortless they remain to this day the ludest band, move obver Napalm Death, Dave Couse is in the house! Oh, thinking about it, the venue from the support gig i am talking about has recently been burned out to its shell, it used to be called the Barrell Organ in Digbeth in Birmingham, it was always a very Irsih pub, even to the day it was raised, and we played many gigs there, I saw many gigs there, Wedding Present, Wonderstuff, Shack etc etc. Shame. Randy, agree Magazine's first three were their best. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 853 Registered: 05-2005 |
A guy from the same village as me plays guitar in Dave Couse's band now. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 953 Registered: 05-2005 |
Padraig haven't heard his later stuff, any good? Am currently burning an album by Dislocation Dance, Midnight Shift. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1130 Registered: 05-2005 |
Is it just me that doesnt like this album? Everybody and their dog is going way overboard - check Metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/newsomjoanna/ys | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 864 Registered: 04-2005 |
I'm pretty sure I'd feel about the same, Kevin. What little of her I heard, I didn't like. I heard the voice and thought, "sorry, no." From descriptions I've read, the album sounds like this year's Fiery Furnaces' "Blueberry Boat" (worst album I've bought in the past five years) to me. I think some critics work really hard to find the modern-day equivalents of prog-rock opuses because they're secretly fans of that stuff. | ||
| jerry hann Member Username: Jerry_h Post Number: 313 Registered: 07-2005 |
Well Kevin I wished I'd waited to peruse this board. Just bought the Joanna Newsom and the Jarvis Had Jarvis on random on the ipod and like what it has thrown at me. I've not got around the the Joanna Newsome yet but it might br one of those buys you kind of put down to experience. Really I'm wiating for the Waits to go on release as I've not got access to early copies.Oh so sad! | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Nemo Post Number: 109 Registered: 07-2005 |
Randy, Don Conka ( Signed D.C. ) was the original drummer in Love but he was only with the band a short time. I believe he had a serious drug ( heroin ) problem and was dropped for the recording of the first album. Alban 'Snoopy' Pfisterer took over as his replacement and I believe Arthur may have played drums on some tracks before his arrival. Pfisterer was a classically trained piano player ( he went on to become the keyboard player for the band on Da Capo ) so quite why he ended up playing drums on the first album is anybody's guess. I have always had a soft spot for their debut and while the first side of 'Da Capo' and 'Forever Changes' contain stronger and more original material and better performances by the band, I still rate it highly. It is probably their most 'Byrds' influenced album which might have something to do with the fact that Bryan MacLean was the Road Manager for The Byrds prior to joining the group. Currently listening to:- Rick Nelson & The Stone Canyon Band - Rick Sings Nelson/Rudy The Fifth Rick Nelson & The Stone Canyon Band - Garden Party/Windfall | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 855 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence, have a listen at http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=541972 53 | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 858 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence, I just got home and the Winebago Orchestra CD arrived today. Hurrah! I'm loooking forward to hearing it later. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 954 Registered: 05-2005 |
Thanks Padraig for taking the time to buy it, its very touching to me when people buy our stuff, thank you, however don't let it ruin your evening! Thanks for the above too, will take a peek... | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 955 Registered: 05-2005 |
Padraig, Mr Couse is still a brilliant songwriter, what great tunes...also love the update on Endless Art, anyone who hasn't heard this song, click on the above and go to the tune, he's updated it, it now includes our Grant too, bless him. I love the way Mr Couse sounds too, he's a real poet. Cheers Padraig! | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1148 Registered: 03-2006 |
Kev, I know you manage to hear everything before its official release. Have you heard that Neil Young concert at the Fillmore East, from 1970, they're releasing today? I don't know how that could be anything but great. Looks like LK will be making one of his increasingly rare record store trips today... | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 869 Registered: 04-2005 |
What's this about the old Neil Young concert, LK? Is this a CD or DVD? Is it with Crazy Horse, him solo, or what? A good quality recording of a Crazy Horse show with Danny Whitten would be something special. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 113 Registered: 08-2006 |
I think that's what it is, Kurt - NY and CH in 1970. The advance reviews I've heard have been pretty great. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 871 Registered: 04-2005 |
I just looked it up online and sure enough, it's Crazy Horse w/Whitten. How can I resist, even though I already own enough Neil Young live albums to last into the next century. No offense to Frank Sampedro, but Crazy Horse was better with Whitten on guitar--he and Neil really set off sparks in one another's playing. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1150 Registered: 03-2006 |
Yup - you know how NY has been promising a bigass archival box set for years? (It'll probably come out sometime after "Chinese Democracy", not that anybody gives a rat's ass about GnR) This is one of the gems from that archive and Whitten is featured prominently...And it is available as a CD/DVD combo, so I guess I'll have to take the plunge... | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 872 Registered: 04-2005 |
The live CD/DVD combo is a great trend, isn't it? If it were just a CD, I might not buy it, as I don't really listen to live albums that much. But being able to see the concert on DVD and having the CD as a bonus (as with last year's Go-Betweens set) is perfect. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1151 Registered: 03-2006 |
Obviously geared towards luring people into actually buying it, rather than downloading...it's going to reach the point where every CD is going to have some kind of gimmick, a DVD, stickers a la Beck, some kind of packaging wrinkle or goodie to make you actually buy it. Maybe they'll resort to having prizes in every package, like they do with Cracker Jacks! At any rate, there's not a lot of footage floating around of Neil with Whitten, so that sounds completely worth having... | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1133 Registered: 05-2005 |
LK - downloaded the Neil Young fron Napster yesterday but havent got round to playing it yet. Ever since I got my turnatable out of cold storage last week I have been overdosing on my old reggae vinyl so not been playing much else. Apart from the Joanna Newsome album - ok that was a joke I also downloaded(but not heard yet) the Jarvis album which seems to be getting very positive reviews. I will need to play that, and NY later tonight when I get home from work at 11pm. Speaking of Husker Du, been playing Warehouse Songs... at work tonight to let the two young guys I am working with hear some "real" punk rock, none of this Green Day crap. Randy, I agree with the above sentiments that Warehouse is the place for you to start, just a notch or two below comes Candy Apple Grey and Flip Your Wig. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1155 Registered: 03-2006 |
I picked up the Neil Young at my local wrecka sto and it be sounding pretty damn great...I got the version with a DVD though that turned out to be somewhat misleading...it's a high res audio version of the performance, not video footage. I realized this before I bought it, but opted for the DVD anyway, because I was curious about the sound, my reasoning being if it's better I want it...also, whenever I get the lesser version when a more deluxe one is available I always feel deprived...but anyway, whatever version you pick, I can recommend this pretty unequivocally, if you like ole Neil... | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 868 Registered: 05-2005 |
Right this very moment: FIfteen by the Winnebago Orchestra (Spence's band). I'm half-way through the first listen. Some tracks have grabbed me straight away and some will take a while I think. The singer's voice reminds me of a cross between Mike Scott and Pat Fish on the first song. Is he also Scottish Spence? Tracks 4 & 5 - Midnight Blue and Love Is Here With Me - are my favourites so far. Your guitar on Four Legs (but not the song itself) reminds me of The Who. Were you going for that sound on it? The Hawaiian-style guitar on Motorcycle Angel is great. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 869 Registered: 05-2005 |
Oh, The Sky Aches is lovely. Bit of a Lilac Time influence there maybe? I listened to Four Legs again and I think it's Pictures Of Lily it reminds me of and it's more percussion than guitar that's doing so. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 870 Registered: 05-2005 |
Cherry Red is just the right length! That's a compliment btw! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 871 Registered: 05-2005 |
Angels is rather lovely too. Beautiful orchestration. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 963 Registered: 05-2005 |
Thanks for your kind comments Padraig. A lot of people say its a good listen if you stagger. Its a slow burner I guess. Its funny but as we are nearly finished recordingthe songs for the next album - I feel like we've moved on from everything. Andy is no longer in the band, the male voice. Its Caroline and myself now, there's a cohesion there now. Iam proud of it though. Thanks for buying it | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 749 Registered: 03-2005 |
Wow, I confess that it is mostly the Caroline Trettine-sung numbers which have stuck with me, from "Get Me" with its great PoMo lyrics to "Angel." I'm a real sucker for big ballady things sung by such a wonderfully fragile but seasoned voice. I love Caroline's voice and delivery and your magnificently pop musical backings were quite imaginative all the way through "15" Spence, so the new one has got to be a big step forward! I'll be in line to buy it. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1137 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence, when are you going to get your stuff on Napster? I was browsing Napsters new releases on Monday and saw an album by Winnebago Deal which I momentarily thought was your band. After the excitement subsided I quickly realised it was another band. Do you know of them? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1164 Registered: 03-2006 |
For Jerry and other Waits fans: You couldn't call this unexpected, but Christgau loves "Orphans": http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/12188933/review/12451413/orphans_brawl ers_bawlers__bastards | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 892 Registered: 04-2005 |
Christgau is the editor of the RS reviews section now, isn't he? So it's bound to get a little more provocative, at least. It certainly couldn't get worse. I wonder what will happen when Mick Jagger or Art Garfunkel releases an album that Wenner wants to give four stars to? You know that shit isn't going to go over well with Christgau. Keep in mind Wenner used to force his review section editors to give good reviews to such sterling artists as Hootie and the Blowfish and the Spin Doctors. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 118 Registered: 08-2006 |
Is that his position there, Kurt? I can't imagine Wenner giving Christgau the keys to his review section. If it's true, though, you're right - the free ride for Mick and Wenner's other beloved 60s warhorses is over (although Christgau liked the last RS CD, if I recall). | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 895 Registered: 04-2005 |
Well, I didn't quite get it right. From Christgau's website: Robert Christgau's piece on the New York Gypsy Festival just went online at Salon. He has contracted to be a contributing editor at Rolling Stone and a music critic for NPR's All Things Considered. The Consumer Guide remains in limbo, although there's an excellent chance it will start up again shortly. Sometime in the next month, archival Consumer Guide material will become part of the editorial content at Rhapsody, Real Network's online music service, where he will also contribute a weekly playlist. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 119 Registered: 08-2006 |
That means the Rolling Stone review page is still safe for Hootie! The poor guy needs a refuge somewhere... | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1165 Registered: 03-2006 |
Great news. At RS, he can only class up the joint, though I don't dislike it as much as some people here, in fact read it regularly. I do like the political coverage and some of their pop culture pieces. For instance, the latest issue had a piece on Stewart and Colbert by the estimable and fetching Maureen Dowd. And the "Bush - Worst President Ever" issue was a classic. As a big fan of the genre to begin with, I really enjoyed RCs piece on the NY Gypsy Festival in Salon. The guy can write rings around anybody else out there, end of story. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 897 Registered: 04-2005 |
It's true. I just hope he stops writing his dumbed-down reviews for Blender. If he can add even a touch of his Voice-style writing to RS, it'll be an improvement. And I hope somebody picks up the Consumer Guide. As infuriating as it can be, it's always a good read. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 122 Registered: 08-2006 |
I've always been a fan of 'ol RC. His prose is just terrific, and his taste is more reliable than any other single reviewer I can think of. Granted, he doesn't like some records I like, but I've rarely been disappointed in one he gives high marks to. Glad he's finding work. I heard his review of the Hold Steady on NPR a few weeks back and it was quite good, much better than those sloppy podcasts he did for the VV. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1147 Registered: 05-2005 |
Studio One Groups - Various Wave of Mutilation - The Pixies - More stuff to play at work with the two young bucks that have recently joined my shift. One of them likes Napalm Death, interesting times ahead !! Jarvis Cocker - Jarvis - this is better than I thought, never been the biggest Pulp fan Tom Waits - Orphans - especially disc 1. | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 25 Registered: 07-2006 |
i'm listening to my newly randomized tallulah. it has right here twice and hope then strife is like, the third song....which is kinda nice as i don't have to wait 43 minutes or whatever it is to hear it. i got the jarvis cd the other day. i've been a big big pulp fan over the years and i feel slightly indifferent about the record. which, albeit, i've only listened to once. some of the songs could have appeared on the last (beautiful, yet overlooked) pulp album. the production has a very sort of garage feel to it at times...the levels are all over the place. obviously the feel he was going for. (cvnts are still) running the world, hidden 25 mins after the end of the record i really really love. just the way it opens is enough for me to shout its praises. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 885 Registered: 05-2005 |
Just played The Zebras' Worry A Lot album and it's great. As well as The Go-Betweens I also hear The Bats and McCarthy in there. And it's less than 35 minutes long so it never outstays its welcome! Check them out at http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=536926 19 | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 905 Registered: 04-2005 |
Kevin and Joe, is Jarvis's album officially out yet? You always seem to get things so far in advance of most of us. I heard an early mix of "Cvnts are Still Running the World" and liked it, though the sound quality was horrible. And isn't it funny that we can post "cvnt" but not c-asterisk asterisk asterisk? | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1154 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt, Jarvis's album was released in the UK on Monday. According to Metacritic the US release date is TBD (to be decided?) - I downloaded it from Napster. Seems to be splitting the reviewers, some think its great, others are not so sure. http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/cockerjarvis/jarvis | ||
| jerry hann Member Username: Jerry_h Post Number: 317 Registered: 07-2005 |
Of the 2 CDs I bough on monday I've played the Jarvis more and really like it. It is far more accessible than I was expecting but that is not a bad thing. The Joanna Newsome-is hard work,initially I thought she sounds like a Billy Holiday but veers more into Bjork teratory.It has a partoral quality to it which kind of reminds me of Atral Weeks.It is quite a brave record (who would make a CD of voice and harp, apart form in the classical setting)but all said I shall not be returning to it very often,and life is too short.Pass the Fall compilation doctor | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 28 Registered: 07-2006 |
hey kurt, jarvis is out worldwide i think. i got it here in melbourne the other day and a friend in london i think sometime last week! i'm so glad we can post the word cvnt....i find shunt makes a satisfying replacement as well. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 975 Registered: 05-2005 |
Cheers Randy. Yep wjhen I first heard Caroline's voice it sounded to me how you describe. I was looking for my Sandy Denny and found her! Wee had mutual connections as she was in and still plays in The Blue Aeroplanes, then we connected and never looked back. if it wasn't for Caroline and I must say Andreas at Tuition we'd be doing less and it'd all be confined to my Garageband folder never to be heard! The new album is sounding great I must admit. Kev I think if you have a look on the intution site you will find a place to download listen to. the link is on the Gb's links I think. Anyhow, have a nice wekend all am recording again, hope youall have anice time now! x | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 914 Registered: 04-2005 |
Thanks, Kevin and Joe. I really like Jarvis--he's not as overexposed here as he probably is in the UK, so it's harder for me to get sick of him. Different Class and We Love Life were gems (This Is Hardcore I didn't warm to so much) so I'm very interested to hear his latest work. Do you think his music is as interesting as with Pulp, or does it suffer from "studio-itis"? | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 29 Registered: 07-2006 |
i really shouldn't comment....i have only listened to the blessed man's record the one time. pulp, on the other hand, played the backdrop to my entire adolescence and i spare no hyperbole when talking about them. if you have the cash, the deluxe issues of his n hers, diff class and hardcore are all wonderful. stacks of unreleased stuff....the hardcore one alone is worth it for the proper version of cocaine sociallism as well as the fully-formed "it's a dirty world" which was cut from the album last minute. my heart actually stopped beating for a good five seconds when i first heard it. i have eternal faith in the man....will listen a lot more and post something other than pulp-gush in the next few days! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1159 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt, I'm not the biggest Pulp fan in the world, in fact I'm probably the only person here who hates Common People - I dont care for what I would term "clever" or "knowing" records. However,I have always liked Jarvis as a person. This album after 2 or 3 listens strikes me as being a bit more ambitious or adventurous than The Pulp stuff I have heard. Disney Time has orchestral flourishes, and Tonite (why the American spelling Jarvis?) has definite twinges of Richard Hawley, who plays on the album - I bet he does the "bah,bah,bah bum" backing voacls on this. Strange that I should like the solo works of Jarvis and Thom Yorke above their main bands output(Kid A apart). | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 917 Registered: 04-2005 |
"Tonite" is an American spelling? Not in my line of work--they'd fire me if I spelled it that way! I agree with you, by the way, Kev, about Thom Yorke's album being kind of more interesting than Radiohead. It's been a slow grower for me, but I'm appreciating it more with time, where Radiohead seems to go the other direction--it impresses me more at first but seems less substantive with repeated listenings. So I'm really curious to hear the Jarvis album--to see how he differs away from his "safety net" of Pulp. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1161 Registered: 05-2005 |
Really Kurt, Tonite is not the American way of spelling tonight? Well who the heck spells it that way then? I thought it was another one of those words that you lazy yanks spelt with less letters, like colo(u)r, favo(u)rite and hono(u)r - what you guys got against the letter U? Heres some more : analog analogue catalog catalogue dialog dialogue If I was the letter U, I would be going to an industrial tribunal | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 920 Registered: 04-2005 |
Who writes "tonite"? Illiterates! I can't explain the "u" thing to you. I work with a couple of Brits and they ask me the same question. But I wasn't consulted on the decision to abolish it. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 130 Registered: 08-2006 |
Here a definition for you: Tonite (n.) An explosive compound; a preparation of gun cotton. People do use tonite as a substitute for tonight, but as a follower of the Associated Press Stylebook, it's a no-no, strictly show-biz. As far the "u," I dunno when it happened, but we Yanks are an impatient lot, and if we can get catalog across without the extra keystrokes, great! Now that I think about it, that's probably how tonight got chopped. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 763 Registered: 03-2005 |
Very funny post, Kevin. I didn't even know about some of the differences you cite. For example I use "analog" to mean non-digital, but "analogue" to mean logically similar. Do we use "dialog?" But, yeah, I think "catalogue" has gone the way of the Oozlum bird. Maybe we've de-Frenchified the language. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1181 Registered: 03-2006 |
I have absolutely no scientific basis for this, but to me a lot of those corrupted spellings spring up from the world of advertising, and most specifically, marquees for roadside lounges in the states, along the lines of, "Appearing Tonite thru Wednesday at the Starlite Lounge - Mark Smith and the Fall Boys"... And because it's a living language and we're an inherently lazy country, such spellings will no doubt become standard in not too many years...keep fighting the good fight, Kurt! |