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Matthias Treml
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Username: Matthias

Post Number: 164
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 03:13 pm:   

OK. I am completely sober. And I'm still going to share a song my band arranged and played over the weekend.

This sharing is new territory for me. No one outside a few family members have viewed this page. I post a "band page" to share photos, mp3s, and videos with my band members.

We are probably the most critical of our own work so please be gentle.

The recording was done via a Sony Digital Camcorder and then ripped to mp3 with no effects whatsoever.

Rehearsals were better but it's the danger in the live performance that makes it so exciting.

We are probably the most critical of our own work so please be gentle.

http://home.comcast.net/%7Ematttremmel/showmen.htm

I just wanted to share it here because it is a Go-Betweens song and I appreciate others who have shared their recordings.

p.s. The Eagles song was NOT my idea but I must admit it is fun to play and is a crowd pleaser. I have learned that if you're going to play some obscure song by yourself or some Australian band, you better pull out a popular one to win the audience back before your set is done.
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andreas
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Username: Andreas

Post Number: 328
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 04:06 pm:   

matthias, it seems that it doesn't work. i can't listen to the songs. what do i wrong?
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Randy Adams
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Username: Randy_adams

Post Number: 756
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 04:32 pm:   

Yeah I couldn't get it to work either Matthias.
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Little Keith
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Username: Manosludge

Post Number: 1162
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:31 pm:   

Streaking? Did you mean streaming? I was a little afraid to open this thread...

Very niiiice, Matthias, though it only seems to play the Eagles song. That Eagles song, btw, is one of the okay ones, imo, since Jackson Browne co-wrote it....
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Matthias Treml
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Username: Matthias

Post Number: 166
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:42 pm:   

Ah.

So I still have a chance not to share. hehe.

I will correct later tonight. I think it's the "!" in the file name.

Stay tuned.
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Matthias Treml
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 03:00 pm:   

OK. Love Goes On should now be working...
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Matthias Treml
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Username: Matthias

Post Number: 168
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   

BTW, Keith, I wonder if J Browne wrote this tongue in cheek. The level of machismo doesn't seem his style.
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Randy Adams
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Username: Randy_adams

Post Number: 759
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 03:49 pm:   

It worked Matthias! I have QuickTime and now it could read it.

I love it! Keeping to a theme of rank envy I started with Rob, I am totally jealous of your access to violin. You're playing the guitar, right? "Love Goes On" is a very fun string of chord changes.

And, hey, people clapped to a Grant McLennan song! There is a god after all.
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Matthias Treml
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 07:10 pm:   

Yes, I'm the rhythm guitar on the track and lightly fill-in on the chorus.

Yes, I'm thrilled with the violin. Now, I think "What other songs can we do?" Right here, Bye Bye Pride...

I'd love to do 10 songs by them and learn them well.

They clapped louder on Quiet Heart which I didn't expect. But I have some difficulties with the audio and have to sit down and figure out if it is the source or the translation to mp3.
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Kurt Stephan
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Username: Slothbert

Post Number: 910
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   

Matthias, I don't know much about Jackson Browne, but I'm not sure that macho stuff was so tongue-in-cheek. LK, you know more about Browne--do you think some of his sensitivity was a '70s thing...you know, he was being the sensitive folkie so he'd get laid more?

Isn't it weird to think that as a youngster he was a fringe player in the Warhol Factory era scene? He used to back Nico on stage on nights when Reed or Cale didn't do it. And he did other things with Nico...
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Kurt Stephan
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Username: Slothbert

Post Number: 911
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 07:50 pm:   

Nice job, Matthias! My girlfriend (the singer) and I love playing "Love Goes On" because of the great melody and lyrics and the interesting (and frequent) chord changes. Like Randy, I'm jealous of the violin playing on your version. I do really bad faux Willsteed guitar fills in the instrumental part. Maybe I can get the g/f to learn to play a harmonica solo in that spot instead. :-)

Hope you can get "Quiet Heart" working--I'd like to hear that one too.
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Little Keith
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Username: Manosludge

Post Number: 1176
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 08:40 pm:   

Niiice, Matthias! The violin really does add that certain je ne sais quois that's missing from my own version...Amanda really did contribute I guess...I think you guys should work up the complete 16LL!
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 1177
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 08:51 pm:   

Good Lord! Everybody get outta Kurt's way - he's posting like a man possessed! He's barreling down that highway like Burt Reynolds in Smokey & the Bandit!
But yeah, Kurt, I think that's a pretty astute analysis of JB (sure you haven't read a bio of him?)...not to discount the sensitivity and soul of his songs, that is just one side of him. I think, back in the day, he was a major "hound" and used the wan, sensitive folkie ploy to "score" (surely one of the ickiest strategies, btw). I think he, as they say, made out like a (booty) bandit...Sad to say, he probably did smack loverly Daryl Hannah around. Joni Mitchell, who knew him pretty well in the 60's, wrote a tell all song (the name of which escapes me) which was fairly damning on the subject...I still love a lot of those classic albums. Once again, trust the art, not necessarily the artist...And yeah, he and Nico were definitely a thing, and he did hang around that scene, just before he "broke"...the Byrds even covered a couple of his songs way back then, in the late 60's.
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Randy Adams
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Username: Randy_adams

Post Number: 765
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 01:50 am:   

The Byrds? You sure about that Hardin? Nothing's coming to mind, though I admit it's been a pretty long time since I've heard their three albums.
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Little Keith
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Username: Manosludge

Post Number: 1180
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 03:05 am:   

Yeah, they've recorded "Jamaica Say You Will" and something called, I believe, "Mae Jean Goes To Hollywood"...
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Kurt Stephan
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Username: Slothbert

Post Number: 923
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 03:43 am:   

So, LK, you have a pretty good idea of what my tastes are. Do you think I should give any early Jackson Browne albums a chance? I remember reading an interview with some rock critic (Paul Williams, maybe?) who convinced Lester Bangs to give Browne a chance despite his inherent hatred of "mellow" LA rock...and apparently Lester really got into "The Pretender" after listening with an open mind. If he can win over Lester, there must be something there...
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 767
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   

Oops, that was supposed to read "last three albums." I forgot "Jamaica" altogether. I guess because I hate that song. And I didn't even know "Mae Jean" was written by Browne.
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 1186
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:32 pm:   

Agreed, they're not two of JB's strongest efforts, though there's something about Jackson's voice that's pleasing (it's like butta), he brings off "Jamaica" for me...similar to the Bryan Ferry effect...it's the aural equivalent of drinking a bottle of cough syrup (not that I'd know)...

Kurt, I would recommend "Late for the Sky", which has both "Fountain of Sorrow" and "For a Dancer", surely one of the most profound songs ever written, on it. I know that you, despite seeming outwardly like a calm, straightlaced, professional kinda guy, secretly enjoy the dark and transgressive, so here's a factoid that might lend Jackson some cachet: You know the scene in "Taxi Driver", where Travis Bickle pretty much bottoms out, right before he goes on his killing spree? He's watching TV and just tips it over, letting it fall and crash...you can almost taste the depression, ennui and insanity of the moment. Well, the music playing is JB's song, "Late for the Sky"....Dark enough?
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 178
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 05:46 am:   

Mae Jean's on Ballad of Easy Rider and Jamacia's on Byrdmaniax if you want to find the originals.
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Randy Adams
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Username: Randy_adams

Post Number: 769
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 08:24 am:   

You're right, Geoff. "Ballad of Easy Rider" is the last Byrds album I really like, what with the title song, and "Oil in my Lamp," "Tulsa County," "Jack Tarr (the Poor Sailarrr)" and "Gunga Din" and "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" and even "Jesus is Just Alright with Me" (if I ignore the lyrics). Hey, even "Armstrong, Aldrin & Collins." It's a superb album. I totally forgot they tacked "Mae Jean" onto the CD version of it; the album needs no additions.
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:38 am:   

As I slave over another set of class reports late into the night, I am playing Ballad as I type. I thought I was the only one who dug it. All the critics bypass it and I thought it was my secret discovery. I guess that secret albums are never that secret on this board! I also like There must be someone. It's a bit like old man's Smiths in lyrics(!!!)(Morrissey should cover it!!) and is sung beautifully by John York. Did he do anything after he was unceremoniously ditched by McGuinn?
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 770
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 09:15 pm:   

I'm sure he did other things, but John York wound up working with Gene Clark in the mid-80s. He, Clark and a guy named Pat Robinson had a group they called "CRY" (their last names' initials) and they recorded some things still waiting to see the light of day. If you check YouTube's Gene Clark entries you will find a very decent film of them doing one of their songs.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 317
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 04:59 pm:   

Kurt, I'll echo LK's vote on Late For The Sky being JB's best, although The Pretender was the huge seller. I saw JB in 1977 when he was on The Pretender tour, and he put on a great show. Never did see him again or buy anything newer by him, but I have all of his 70's stuff on vinyl and some of it on cd.

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