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Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1251 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 03:32 pm: | |
From Blender, the worst 50 artists ever. Unlike that Time list of best albums, I think they got this one exactly right: http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.as px?id=466 |
abigail law
Member Username: Abigail
Post Number: 108 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 03:50 pm: | |
where's sting and u2???????? |
kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1221 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 04:27 pm: | |
....or Genesis, or Phil Collins, or Coldplay, or James Blunt, or Duran Duran, or Boy George,or Dire Straits, or Keane - christ could be here all night. That list was lame, there wasnt one group or artists they picked that was controversial |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 153 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 04:28 pm: | |
That's actually a pretty good list. I was afraid I'd see a band or two I actually like, but nope, I'm clean. My closest relationship to any of the bands on the list was seeing the Goo Goo Dolls open for - get this - Public Image Limited in the late '80s. They were awful. Then John Lydon came out and, during one song, I can't remember which, mooned the audience at length, shoving a dollar bill where the sun doesn't (or at least shouldn't) shine. Jesus, even now thinking about it gives me cold sweats. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1256 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 04:40 pm: | |
Kevin, it strikes me that you can either go for controversy or exactitude...the twain don't really meet, and these guys went for getting it right, which I think they did. You could argue that there were omissions, but I don't think any of the artists you mention are as startlingly, wrong ass, irrevocably bad as the ones on the list. Ok, maybe Duran Duran...but that's part of the point, too, and part of the fun - you can always quibble about omissions...it is, at base, a subjective exercise, though I should think there'd be well nigh universal consensus about the meritlessness of the artists mentioned... That's a great story, Rob...Eeeuwww. That image must have seared your retinas. |
Wolfgang Steinhardt
Member Username: Berbatov
Post Number: 30 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 04:45 pm: | |
Abigail, Sting appears at #38 in the "50 Worst Things Ever to Happen to Music" list (maybe a misprint, should be 3,8 at least) while Bono hasn't finished the "ARE YOU IN THE WORST BAND IN THE WORLD?" questionnaire at the end of the list yet... |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 156 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 04:52 pm: | |
I admit to owning "Rio" back in the day - yes, yes, the folly of youth - so I'm not exactly endorsing their inclusion on the list for personal reasons. And yes, LK, my retinas are still receiving regular medical care, to say nothing of my psyche, which remains in traction. |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 330 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 04:56 pm: | |
I was surprised Loverboy didn't make it. Worse headbands ever by the lead singer, and the music was just as bad. Hewey Lewis and The News, another stinker. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 158 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:03 pm: | |
Loverboy! Hewey Lewis! Michael, man, they should have consulted you for that list. Those two would definitely qualify. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 812 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:06 pm: | |
That's a pretty fun list. Kevin, my guess is that you need to be somewhere around my age to get that special pleasure seeing names like Iron Butterfly and Rick Wakeman on there. And I DO get a very special pleasure because I had people trying to foist that crap on me for years. And the Doors? Some folks on here might remember my savaging them on a number of occasions. But the inclusion of the Gipsy Kings is what really made me laugh. I remember when everybody insisted on playing them at "sophisticated" social engagements. Wolfgang, you are very sharp-eyed! I didn't notice the lack of a #38. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 161 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:14 pm: | |
My wife's ownership of the Gypsy Kings was actually a sticking point when the time came to merge our CD collections. I argued that its proximity caused my Sonic Youth, Go-Betweens and Pavement CDs to break out in a rash. In the end, it was quarantined, and eventually shipped off to the used store where, if I remember correctly, I had to pay the clerk to take it off my hands. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1260 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:15 pm: | |
I never realized that Morrison was rumored to have died masturbating in the bathtub...that's a horrible, but hilarious detail...I'm not always with you on your "savagings", Randy, but am in complete "agreeance" on the Doors... Almost as heinous a detail is that Bob Geldof actually put out an album called, "The Vegetarians of Love", that was Cajun influenced (?)...too funny. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 162 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:22 pm: | |
I think – after much soul-searching, natch - that the Doors might be the snarkiest entry on that list. I am no fan, and own no records, but I don't believe they're in the company of Iron Butterfly or Mike and Mechanics or, shudder, Kenny G. I mean, hearing "The End" at the start of "Apocalypse Now" still sends shudders down my spine. I doubt anything Whitesnake did ever could have the same effect. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1262 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:41 pm: | |
Your point is well taken, Rob. They probably don't belong in the...what's the opposite of "exalted"?...company on the list. It's just delicious to see them on the list because they've so been shoved down my throat by some of my hipster wannabe friends. I had a hipster girlfriend during the early 90's, right around the time Oliver Stone's movie about them came out, that used to go around saying, "Jim Morrison's a poet", which would totally exasperate me and cause me to sputter out, "I am the Lizard King/ I can do anything - that's poetry? Gimme a f-ing break!"... But you're right - many intelligent people would rush in to defend them, which I don't think can be said of other artists on that list. And I'd forgotten about that - that was a great and effective use of their music in Apocalypse Now. What a great movie. |
kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1222 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 07:47 pm: | |
Can any band have polarised opinion as much as The Doors? I am not a great lover, but LA Woman(the album) and some of their bluesier tracks are pretty good. |
spence
Member Username: Spence
Post Number: 1065 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 08:09 pm: | |
The thing is with this type of list is that really its endless...an endless list, it could change everyday and still get worse. I'm on the Kev side, I love LA Woman and little else, much preferred Love, whose thunder was duly stolen by Mr Morrison. |
andreas
Member Username: Andreas
Post Number: 348 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 08:10 pm: | |
my opinion: don't wast any time on that sort of lists. you can always find something that is worser than the rest. |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1019 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 08:33 pm: | |
I expected to get all pissed off reading Blender's choices. But no, I think that list nails the majority of the most deserving hideous musical artists. There were maybe two on the list I think shouldn't have been there, but I wouldn't go out of my way to defend them either. The fact is, most popular music sucks. You could do a list of the 100 or 500 worst artists and you'd still leave out a bunch of people entirely deserving. And I'm sorry, kids, U2 wouldn't make any worst list of mine no matter how big the number. I could never run out of prog-rockers, bad folkies, hair-metal bands, lame rappers, MOR crooners, jam bands, Christian rockers, by-the-numbers hardcore bands, etc., to put ahead of them on the list. However, shitty U2 imitators totally belong on the list--I'm talking about you, The Alarm, later Simple Minds, Big Country, etc. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 996 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 11:27 pm: | |
I have albums by six of them (many in one case) and a 7" by another. I don't play any of them though. Honest. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 44 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 11:30 pm: | |
fine young cannibals!!!!! (that being from a boy seriously stuck in 1985...) i'll also see you a UB40, wet wet wet and simlpy red. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 999 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 11:32 pm: | |
OK, one addmittance - I love the debut Tin Machine album. Not being ironic here, I really do love it. Bought it on cassette when it came out and bought it on CD in the brilliant FNAC record shop in Barcelona in May 2001. |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1025 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 12:05 am: | |
You know, Padraig, I liked the first Tin Machine for about three listenings after I bought it for the simple reason: "Bowie's rocking again!" But it wasn't a grower. And that lead guitarist--he may have had short hair and worn suits, but it was still self-stimulation on guitar worth of Yngwie or his ilk. Yuck. With a better dapper lead guitarist--oh, say, Robert Quine--Tin Machine might have been great. |
Lawrence Mikkelsen
Member Username: Simplythrilledhoney
Post Number: 53 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 01:40 am: | |
I like how heated the debate about U2 has gotten recently. I like U2. I don't love them, and they mean nothing to me emotionally, but I rate "Boy", "The Unforgettable Fire" and "Achtung Baby" very very highly and still listen to them fairly regularly. Saw them in Auckland a few weeks ago and it was great. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 450 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 01:52 am: | |
Okay, so I agree with everything on this list, but with two profoundly notable exceptions: Japan - whoever chose to put Japan on that list is a fucking twat. Of course Japan has been one of my very favorite bands for eons, so naturally that would be my reaction. But here is what makes the author of this list even more of an ignoramous: he/she neglected to include Duran Duran, and although I freely cop to liking early Duran Duran, they borrowed/stole freely just about everything they did, including their image, from Japan. So you can't put Japan on this list and exclude Duran Duran. Manowar: Clearly the author of this list is missing the joke. Manowar was co-founded by one of the guys from the Dictators, which is proof that Manowar was not meant to be taken totally seriously. What about Winger? Or Warrant? You know, some horridly vapid 80s lite-hair-metal? The inclusion Manowar on this list is just silly. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 50 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:33 am: | |
re: japan - i stand appalled too! especially with polaroids being dubbed the worst... surely it would have to be one of the first two. neither of which should result in them being in this bollocks list to begin with! |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1001 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:57 am: | |
Manowar was a joke? Damn! Next thing you'll be telling us Spinal Tap wasn't real! |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1003 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 03:05 am: | |
That previous post sounded a bit more smart-alecky than I intended it to. No offence was meant. The first time I saw Spinal Tap I was outraged. Not that I thought it was real, just that I thought how dare they take the piss out of metal (I was going to see a Magnum concert later that night so I was all metalled up). |
XY765
Member Username: Judge
Post Number: 145 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 09:36 am: | |
Didn't Jim Kerr claim that BoNO stole his stage act?? |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 55 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 11:07 am: | |
not sure....i don't follow either much, but i know bono's given jim/simple minds props for their "big" sound circa sparkle in the rain which has since drawn u2 comparisons. |
Andrew Kerr
Member Username: Andrew_k
Post Number: 178 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 11:20 am: | |
What did Jim Kerr's stage act exactly consist of? Throwing 'praying mantis' moves while sporting the worst haircut this side of Baldric from 'Blackadder'? It may seem odd now (and it has been a looooong time since I listened to their records), but the Minds were once a powerful live presence circa 'Empires and Dance'. I saw them a couple of times at Glasgow Tiffanys in the early 80s. However 'Sparkle in the Rain' was (and probably still is) sh**e. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 57 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 09:45 pm: | |
ha. how odd, i listened to it about twenty minutes and just about creamed myself. i've not bothered with anything of theirs since. |
Cichli Suite
Member Username: Cichli_suite
Post Number: 201 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:05 pm: | |
Simple Minds originally were quite an interesting band. New Gold Dreams still stands up as a good new wave synth pop record, I think. Unfortunately, in 1983 they supported U2 on the War tour which culminated in a show at the Phoenix Park which I attended. Even as a callow youth I was emabarrassed by Bono's antics. He climbed the stage rigging at every opportunity, waved flags and would have kissed babies if they had been available. Apparently he and Jim Kerr became good friends on that tour. The next Simple Minds record was that awful, sub-U2, stadium-rock beer mat that Joe mentions - Sparkle and the Rain. I wonder are there other examples of touring bands where one corrupts the other. Maybe Dylan has it right - he doesn't meet with, let alone talk to the people he tours with! |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 58 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:16 pm: | |
yeah, brashness aside i absolutely agree. i never got into empires and dance much, but sons/sister and new gold dream are blinding. it's true, the bombast of sparkle does get my motor running, but everything i've heard bits of since (alive and kicking, belfast child, etc) are dull, if not cringeworthy. the high high pants still impress though. |
Cichli Suite
Member Username: Cichli_suite
Post Number: 202 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:26 pm: | |
Hi Joe, I wasn't sure by your previous remark whether you were enjoying or hating Sparkle after 20 mins - enjoying obviously! |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 59 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:33 pm: | |
oh i likey alright =)) "beer mat" i love - mind if i use it? |
Cichli Suite
Member Username: Cichli_suite
Post Number: 203 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:39 pm: | |
Sure, go ahead! It's stolen property anyway |
jerry hann
Member Username: Jerry_h
Post Number: 340 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 08:48 am: | |
my pet hate INXS |