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kevin
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 09:20 pm:   

The new REM comp - nothing after Document which suits me. Tonight, Sitting Still sounds to me like the best thing they ever did.

Junior Boys - Last Exit.

Johnny Cash - American V
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spence
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   

yup agreed, still gotta get the comp tho.

Today I listened to the best of The Police
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jerry hann
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 11:04 pm:   

Sitting Still just put on itunes-truly great Kevin
today
Sonic Youth-Ripped
Lambchop-Damaged
Eno/Byrne-Bush of Ghosts
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jerry hann
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 11:10 pm:   

Perfect Circle-now that is good as well
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Jonathan Evans
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 08:20 am:   

Not really new, but I'm listening to the Billy Bragg offical bootleg from the barbican. Excellent double CD available from his website.
Also, tigermilk by B&S, a lot of Peter, Bjorn and John as well as the Camera Obscura album.

Cheers
Jon
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 05:12 pm:   

Dang, no Wolves, Lower! I'll still get it though.
I can still remember packing my backpack for my trip to Isle Royale National Park (in the middle Of Lake Superior) while listening to Chronic Town, July 1983.
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abigail law
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 05:49 pm:   

bert jansch
vashti bunyan -just another diamond day (folk is cool again i'm told)
james dean bradfield - great western (not brilliant but a vast improvement on the manic street preachers)
sun kil moon - tiny cities
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andreas
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 07:55 pm:   

listened to bob dylan's modern times and to flotation toy warning and their 'bluffer's guide to the flight deck' album which every flaming lips fan should be listen to ( i think i have written this a few month ago, but the album is worth to mention it over and over again).

http://www.flotationtoywarning.co.uk/
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 08:19 pm:   

Kinks - Arthur
Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
Midlake - The Trials of Van Occupanther (finally!)
GM - Fireboy
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andreas
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Posted on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 07:32 pm:   

today i listened to lampchob's damaged which is absolutely brilliant and not so boring as is a woman was. fine instrumentation. and neil young rotatet. living with war.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 04:59 pm:   

Finally listened to the new YLT and I do concur with the consensus on the board - it is (imagine me saying this in my best Larry David voice) pretty pretty great.

The mellow, wimpy stuff and 60's styled rockers (do my ears deceive me, or is that 'Pipeline' they incorporate into the solo of "Ronnie")are at the heart of what they do, for me, but I do dig the two stomp-box guitar wigouts they've so brazenly book-ended the record with.

I was listening to it driving down PCH yesterday, and the very aptly and evocatively named "Goodkind" really made we want to put the peddle to the metal, run my fellow drivers off the road, etc. For a ten-minute instrumental, based on a four note bass riff, the momentum, amazingly, never flags...
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Little Keith
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 05:10 pm:   

And, of course, that would be "pedal" not "peddle"...
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kevin
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 07:52 pm:   

LK, I would take your copy back, my version of "Goodkind" has a vocal on it :-)
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Little Keith
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 07:58 pm:   

I didn't notice...musta been the crack I was smoking...
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kevin
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 08:39 pm:   

too be fair, the vocals are pretty low down on the mix. YLT are not known for their shouty vocals.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   

Actually, though I was aware of the vocals, it still really seems like an instrumental, not a "song", as such...they are more like James Brown's exhortations in "Night Train", which I also think of as an instrumental...
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 12:57 am:   

The Rapture - Pieces of people we love. not as chaotic as Echoes, I really like it for what it is - a slab of intelligent dancy electro guitar pop. interesting to note that the first reviews I read of it in the British mags about a month ago ranged from mostly mediocre to good, the more recent reviews on the US music websites range from good to excellent. Does that mean us Brits are reluctant to shake our bootys? :-)

Russian Futurists - Me Myself and Rye. Compilation of earlier stuff, and its brilliant.
This year has very much been the year of electro pop for me - Junior Boys, Hot Chip, and now Russian Futurists and The Rapture.

By the way, does anybody rate Xiu Xiu? Have just downloaded their new one from Napster. I have read quite a few reviews over the years which always raved about them, but my "prententious band alert" radar always seemed to be steering me away from them.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 01:23 am:   

Listened to the Sonic Youth finally (I've had it for ages but didn't play it). Sounds really good on first listen.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 01:49 am:   

Yeah, it's one that opens out for me with each successive playing...not only that, but the 5- and 6-year-olds in the house where I'm living love it too...
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spence
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 10:22 am:   

Maria Kalaniemi - Bellow Poetry CD
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   

Kevin, I picked up The Rapture's newest a couple of days ago, but have yet to play it. It will get some serious play this weekend for sure.
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Matthias Treml
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 07:37 pm:   

Been listening to the Stone Roses - S/T plus the Complete Stone Roses and everytime I pull it out every year or so, I'm amazed at how good they were and how the production stands up, melodies, etc. Really enjoy it each time.

That and The Smiths - Louder than Bombs although Hatful is probably a better compilation of those singles.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 08:00 pm:   

On Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour, he answers emails from listeners. Someone asked why he played so many songs from times gone by, instead of new stuff. His answer (imagine this intoned Zimmy-style): "There are a lot more old songs than new songs"...

In that spirit, I've been cranking some moldy oldies, in addition to the Dylan, Yo La Tengo, etc. that are pretty much a fixture:

John Hiatt & the Goners - Beneath this Gruff Exterior

Willie Nelson - Countryman (his reggae album {!}...surprisingly good...)

Merle Haggard - The Fightin' Side of Me

David Bowie - Hunky Dory

Stones - Hot Rocks
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 08:40 pm:   

Hardin, thats another great Dylan quote to rank along side his other recent beauty about modern recordings "having too much sound on them"

Matthias, thats an interesting point you bring up about production, and its maybe something that the more technically minded can clear up for me. I think the Stone Roses debut is spoiled by its production. I just think that record sounds tinny, very thin and I have never liked that sound. Now heres where the techys can help out. Is the producer responsible for how a record sounds, or is he responsible for coaching the band to a great performance, helping with arrangements, length of song that kinda thing, or maybe he does all of this? Its a grey area for me.
Michael, hope you enjoy The Rapture, I'm listening to it just now. Its one of those records that are just easy to listen to, sometimes thats just what i like, to counter more challenging listens like YLT and Lambchop which are great in a different kind of way.

Sounds like nobody rates Xiu Xui then?

Hardin I know its dangerous to criticise records I have never heard, but the thought of Willie Nelsons album just makes me cringe. As you know I am a big reggae fan, and I am also a big fan of Willie, especially that golden mid 70s patch like Red Headed Stranger. But some things should just be left alone. I mean, can you imagine Sly and Robbie, or Burning Spear, or King Tubby doing a country album? - it would die a thousand deaths.

Kurt, what did you make of Midlake?
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   

All I can say is that it works for me...of course, it does help to indulge in a little of the green bud before listening...

Xiu Xiu...words fail me...don't go there, Kevin...your friends will shun you, dogs will bark at you and small children will scream and run away!
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Andrew Kerr
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 08:58 pm:   

Glad that the group can come out of the closet now and confess undying love for the Allman Brothers (see even the current 'guitar' thread in the g-bs section). Think I got rid of 'Live at the Fillmore' when it became deeply unfashionable to have tracks that lasted for 17 minutes. Anyway all this talk of the slide-guitar god made me dig out 'Layla and other assorted lovesongs' and damned fine it is too.

And tomorrow will be the return to the turntable of the double anthology LP of Duane Allman: I remember a particularly cracking Boz Scaggs track (stop laughing, I'm serious here)
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 09:44 pm:   

Yeah Hardin , I think you are right about Xiu Xiu. I guess they are one of those bands like Deerhof who are awarded 4/5 or 8 out of 10 before the reviewer has even heard a note.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 09:57 pm:   

Kevin, usually the actual sound of a record is up to the recording engineer and also the mixing and mastering engineer. Some producers graduated from being engineers and they can be expected to continue to exert a technical influence. Or they own their own studios like John Keane or Dave Edmunds. A lot of producers are actually musicians who ditched or at least sidelined their own music careers, like Todd Rundgren or Jon Brion or Dave Edmunds again. Normally producers do the planning/coaching/arranging/substantive decision work. And often they choose engineers whose sound they like or who they are able to communicate with. So even the non-engineer producers do have some impact on the type of sound the ultimately comes out.

One really enjoyable read I dug up a few years ago is "Inside Tracks" by Richard Buskin. He talks to some of the folks who either produced or engineered some famous records.
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 10:17 pm:   

Thanks Randy, thats filled in a few blanks. But you know when you see a producer at a console and he's pushing knobs up and down etc, what is that doing? I guess thats not actually affecting the sound, is that determining how high in the mix a guitar or bass or drums is?
So it maybe isnt actually John Leckie to blame for the (imo) crap sound on The Roses album, it could be the engineer? I am only guessing, but isnt the producer the gaffer so to speak, so he would probably have final say over how the engineer made it sound? or maybe some engineers have an equal say? I guess there are no hard and fast rules?
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   

I don't think there are hard and fast rules. They died with the white coats and tea breaks in the mid-60s at Abbey Road and Hampstead. I see that my copy of Magazine's "Real Life" says "produced and engineered" by John Leckie so I guess we can assume that he is indeed responsible for the sound on his productions. I wonder if he did the engineering also on "Bend Sinister," one of my all time favorite albums.
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   

Randy, I love the sound Leckie gets on Real Life, especially The Light Pours Out of Me, the bass is fantastic. Which reminds me was there a better bass player in the late 70s, early 80s than Barry Adamson? (who I had the pleasure of meeting briefly in the Kings Road in London about 20 yrs ago) His bass line on Philedelphia from Correct Use of Soap may be even better.
Back to Leckie, I also loved the sound he got on Definitive Gaze and Parade from Real Life. Theres maybe a lot to be said for how a studio makes a record sound, the studio that Magazine recorded Real Life would have been bankrolled by Virgin and therefore some plush recording facility in the English countryside, the Roses album was probably recorded in Stockport or some other grim northern English backwater.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 02:55 am:   

Yeah, I'm sure the studio budget has a lot to do with things. And probably how much time the record company will underwrite so that mixing can be done carefully.

And yeah, Barry Adamson's hard to beat.

For no obvious reason, your post reminded me of Visage who I haven't listened to in years. In fact I've only got vinyl and I'll have to help my belt-drive turntable get in motion. I used to like them; I'm off to see if I still do.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 03:08 am:   

Kevin, to answer your question to me (which I almost missed), I'm still getting to know Midlake--it sounds good on first impression. To be honest, I got the new YLT right afterward and it's kind of bumped everything aside for the time being. I can tell that the Midlake is something that will reward attentive listening, something that I don't always find time to do.
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andreas
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 09:30 am:   

first short impressions:
nina nastasia - on leaving (glittering jewel)
the black keys - magic potion (still rumbling)
eagle.seagull - eagle.seagull (great)
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spence
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 10:03 am:   

The Raven - The Stranglers (it really feels like 1979 today on this overcast Saturday morning with this in the background don't know why)
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andreas
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 05:36 pm:   

jefferson airplane - surrealistic pillow

the airplanes are my something of a secret favourite group. and surrealistic pillow is a sort of masterpiece.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 05:51 pm:   

Andreas, I agree about "Surrealistic Pillow." I don't have a copy of it now but it is a great album hampered, for me personally, by having been played vastly too many times in my presence by a former friend. I think "Takes Off" is a really nice underrated album too.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 06:07 pm:   

The three or four strongest songs on "Surrealistic Pillow" (the hits plus "Plastic Fantastic Lover" especially) are, in my opinion, by far the best music to come out of the San Francisco hippie era. They lost the plot later. I have to admit that my first rock concert (not counting seeing Carole King with my parents in 1974) was the Jefferson Starship in Berkeley, around the time of the album that followed "Red Octopus." Balin, Slick, and Kantner were all still in the band, and there was a bit of the old Airplane magic, although they were mostly mainstream rock by that time. At least they weren't in their "We Built This City" phase yet.
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andreas
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Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:59 pm:   

my first rememberings on jefferson airplane/starship could be around the same time (maybe a little bit later i am not quite sure). i read in the music press about them and their gig in germany, about grace slick (she was pictured on a photo and looked terrible) and their alcohol problems(which made those gig a bit bizarre). starship indeed was never as good as the airplane was and around 'we built this city' you only could condemm them.
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andreas
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Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 02:26 pm:   

this message board is my financial ruin. your recommendations and themes which brings long forgotten albums back on my mind. like the waterboys fisherman's blues album. padraig talked about it not long since. oh my god, how long have i listened not to this album? i/o pull out the old record i immediately bought this collector's edition (in order to feed my ipod and to have a fine remastered version).

now it rotates in my cd player and i wonder why this album run out off my focus for several years. as it was released and even years later it was a highlight of my collection. listening to it (and this fine edition) now i just can say what a beautiful work this is. it is still the waterboys masterpiece.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 04:43 am:   

Glad to be able to contribute to your financial ruin Andreas!
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 05:50 am:   

I'm listening to the extraordinary new Drones album Gala Mill right now. It's quite brilliant on first listen. They are from Melbourne I think. Definitely Australian anyway. Very like mid-80s Nick Cave, but without being a pastiche or rip-off in any way. Very much recommended if that is your thing. I know there are quite a few Nick haters on this board though!
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jerry hann
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 02:29 pm:   

Andreas it is a problem this board in that you do end up buying more CDs but hopefully more varied and better Cds than ypu did before, when people on this board recommend something it has usally been through " the bullshit detector". I'm resisting buying Fishermans Blues but may have to get it.My Lp is battered and scratched and like you not played it for a while
Just bought and listened to Bert Jansch-Black Swan, (excellent) and a Townes Van Zandt compilation.
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kevin
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 04:25 pm:   

Townes Van Zandt - Legend. Title says it all, say no more

The Hold Steady - Boys and Girls In America. If the hype is to be believed this band are the next big thing. I quite liked their last album but the half sung, half spoke vocals might put a lot of people off. the musics great though

The Lemonheads - The Lemonheads. The closest thing they have done sonically to Its A Shame About Ray - Evans vocals are still great but the songs cant quite back them up.

TV On The Radio - Return To Cookie Mountain. Album of the year - well this week anyway!
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spence
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 05:02 pm:   

Jerry the recent Bert Jansch remasters, the packaging is worth the tenner alone is it not!?
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 05:07 pm:   

The Stars - Set Yourself on Fire

The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
One of the best records from the 60's IMHO.

The Church - Priest=Aura
Aura is a afternoon ritual while driving home afterwork the last month or so. Good anti-war song.

Regarding "Surrealistic Pillow", my older sister got in 1967, so I was expodsed to it pretty early.
I think it's the most consistent, that for sure. Jack played a mean bass and I loved Jorma's fuzztone. His piercing solo on Wooden Ships is another favorite JA moment though.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 05:35 pm:   

Okay Kev, how'd you even get that Hold Steady, you sly dog? Is that even out in the UK yet? That's one I'm interested in.

Well, I was fortunate at the used shop and got all kinds of new (used) stuff this weekend. Let's see- the new Kasey Chambers, which is a little disappointing. Got the new Los Lobos, "The Town and the City" which is great. Can't say enough about those guys - they are the epitome of cool. At this point in their career, they have a bit of that Dylan, "we've seen it all and don't give a f__", grizzled eminence about them...a very groove-y and heartfelt record.

Got the new Black Keys - "Magic Potion". No surprises, but still great, greasy wicked fun. They cook up an amazing racket for two guys. Something about 'em, too - they don't seem as concerned with looking pretty as the White Stripes, so there's something a little more rowdy and less inhibited about their music.

I did get the TVOTR, but I haven't listened to it yet. I'm almost afraid to - can it really live up to all the rave reviews? That thing is getting some SERIOUS raves...

I also downloaded a couple of excellent albums (this is becoming an increasingly viable means for me to acquire music. If a luddite like me can get it, the record companies must be f-ing doomed. About bloody time, too.):

The Thermals - The Body, the blood, the machine (may not have that title right). Kevin, this CD has your name all over it. It is great - attitudinal, punky...I may be wrong, but this really sounds like your cup of tea. Sort of like a cross maybe between the Decembrists and the Pixies...these guys pack a lot of attitude, leavened with sly humor. One song talks about how "I may need you to kill for me"...

Amy Millan - Honey from the Tombs
This girl is moonlighting from her usual role as a member of the Canadian band, Stars. This is a departure from the style of that group, though. More alt-country, tears in your beer ballads. Excellent songcraft and singing - like a cross maybe between Feist and Lucinda Williams.

Andreas, thanks for listening to that Radio Birdman for me so I didn't have to and saving me some money. Lord knows I have enough crappy discs! And that Fisherman's Blues reissue sounds great. That, along with "This Is the Sea", is a definite favorite. Maybe I can download it!
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kevin
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 06:45 pm:   

Hardin, yes Ive heard The Thermals - short sharp punky tunes is right up my street. need to listen to it more though. Black Keys is available via Napster, think i'll give it a go based on your recommendation Hardin.
I just downloaded an Electronic compilation from Napster called Get The Message. Some of it sounds great, some pretty weak. They never lived up to potential. Marr and Sumner on paper should be Godlike, what a waste.
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kevin
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   

Hardin, that Black Keys album was pretty good- one word kept coming to mind as it played - diirrrtttyyyy :-) - not lyrical content, but the riffs were just sleazy! will be playing this a few times I think.

Ive just remembered I have the new Decemberists album, will need to give that a few more listens.

Also just acquired the latest Stereolab compilation. A lot more condensed than last years box set this has more hits than misses and includes the indispensible French Disko and Ping Pong. To my mind, like Madness, The Cure, The Buzzcocks, Echo and The Bunnymen and The Jesus and Mary Chain, Stereolab make great singles but inconsistent albums
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Little Keith
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 03:39 am:   

That's a good way of putting it, Kev.

I was thinking, too, listening to it, that it's basically blues (which usually bores me to tears) with all the boring bits left out.

Although a lot of people are "album purists", I personally love comps, so I'll have to check that out. If ever a group cried out for a good, concise one disc comp, it's Stereolab.
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jerry hann
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 10:40 am:   

Spence I got the new Bert Jansch which has a few duets with Devendra B and Beth Orton ( who I like),Its a really good LP. what is more I have been meaning to get some of his stuff for years and never got round to it so I just thought I'd get this initially.I had the opportunity 15 years ago of seeing him whilst in Dublin and passed the opportunity up as I preferred to drink my self insensitive in a Dublin pub instead. Which of course was a mistake and now wished I'd gone. At that time I had hardly heard of him and was stupidly put off by my own ignorance. But I will explore those remasters definitely.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 03:01 pm:   

The Drones, again.

I have posted more of my old Irish Times record reviews at www.myspace.com/padraigcollins
While putting them up I was delighted to see that I predicted great things for Richard Hawley when reviewing his debut 7-track mini album in 2001.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 04:07 pm:   

Hardin, The new Kasey Chambers being her 4th album, Carnival? The first two were really good, but I never bothered in getting the 3rd one, Wayward Angel. And now Carnival is another dissapointing one?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 04:10 pm:   

I've always loved anthos as a means of being introduced to a new artist. That's how I got to the GoBees and also Ed Kuepper. What period is covered by this Stereolab comp? I've already got a half dozen of their albums but the only ones I really feel the need to keep are "Switched On" and "Space Age Bachelor Pad."

Current listen: Stand By -- The Chills. Which I just received yesterday from Dunedin, NZ. I love the concept of buying directly from the artist. Padraig has sent me after all sorts of great people. I am currently on a big search for more Chills releases. I also received Sunburnt yesterday and have ordered a copy of Sketchbook.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   

Pulp - This Is Hardcore + Bonus
New Order - Brotherhood
Dylan - Highway 61
The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow
Kraftwerk - Man Machine
Go-B's - FORW
Bowie - Diamond Dogs
White Stripes - De Stijl
Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street
The Clash - London Calling
Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings & Food
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 07:11 pm:   

I'll echo Randy's picks, but I would add "Transient Random Noises Burst With Annoucements". One of my favorite album titles as well.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   

I'm with Michael on that one--it's my favorite Stereolab album start to finish.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 07:45 pm:   

Don't know if I've ever mentioned this story, but Stereolab, along with Nick Cave, get the award for most out of place act at a festival, in my view...I saw them both at Lollapalooza a few years back in N.O. In the scorching, blinding, typical La. midday heat, their schtick just didn't quite come off...they looked pretty pasty, sweaty and weak...funny, cuz I love both of them - I guess context is everything...Dark, Gothic and ruminative don't go well with sunlight and 100 plus temps, and Stereolab would probably work best in a club..the most successful act of the day, in that context, was the Breeders...
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Little Keith
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   

Yes Michael, that would be Carnival, by KC. I found it, on first listen, to be not very compelling. But, I should reserve judgement...

Like you, I thought her first two were wonderful...She first drifted into my awareness as an opening act for someone long since forgotten in B.R. I thought there was something really special about her - a very pure and honest kind of talent, sort of like a younger, more innocent Lucinda Williams...

Still love "The Captain", though...
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 09:25 pm:   

Hardin, I liked the early Kasey so much that I spent the big bucks to get the Aussie import of Barricades and Brickwalls, rather than wait until the US domestic version was available. I love "The Captain" as well!
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 09:28 pm:   

Randy, here is the review of the Stereolab comp from All Music Guide. it contains a tracklist which gives you an idea of what to expect.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:oy66mpma9f1o
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 09:47 pm:   

Thanks for the link Kevin. It looks like this dovetails really nicely with what I'd like to keep.

Played at work this morning: The Chills--Sunburnt.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 09:51 pm:   

What do you think of "Sunburnt," Randy? Many Chillophiles don't seem to rate it too highly. I like it, but it's not in the same league as "Soft Bomb" or "Submarine Bells" (what's with all these SB names...his version of LL?).
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 10:12 pm:   

Only two listens so far Kurt so I probably can't say, especially since those listens were at work. It's a much simpler album in terms of production and arrangements than either of the big "SB" albums. I assume it didn't get the same budget since the last two hadn't become the big hits they were supposed to be. The only thing I can tell on those two somewhat distracted listens is it's definitely worth having.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 01:40 am:   

Version Dread - 18 Dub Hits from Studio One
The Rapture - Pieces of People We Love

Hardin, you played TV on the Radio yet? I'm listening to it now and it sounds as fresh as the first listen, about 30 spins ago.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 01:42 am:   

Thanks Randy, what a nice thing to say! Check my myspace site for my archive record reviews from The Irish Times and you might find some more stuff you'll like.

I love Sunburnt. I really think it's a wonderful album. It was very low budget compared to Soft Bomb, but it had great English musicians (XTC, Fairport Convention) on it. His own band were supposed to play on it but were refused visas to work in England! I love the lyrics on the album, eg "I reached for the sun, but the sun burnt my hand". That's a very original description of heroin addiction I reckon. His voice on that record sounds incredible too.

Sketchbook is, well, a bit sketchy. Must give it another listen though.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 03:44 am:   

Naw, Kevin. I haven't listened to it yet - sorry...because I value your opinion, I'm bumping it to the top of the list...possibly I'm intimidated. It sounds like some pretty high-brow, artsy-fartsy stuff...being a meat and potatoes guy, LK is quaking in his boots...he's still drawn in by the reviews, though...next to the Dylan, it looks like just about the best reviewed disc of the year...

The novelty of having broadband, high speed access hasn't worn off yet, so I'm still downloading like a major fiend...I just downloaded and listened to "Classics" by Ratatat. Have you heard of them? Very cool, instrumental stuff...I gotta tell ya, I'm kicking myself for not having gotten broadband sooner -there's just a f-ing wealth of great stuff out there, isn't there? I may never go into a record store again...
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Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 07:05 am:   

Listening to the new R.E.M. comp online. The non-chronologicalitude works for me here where it didn't on "In Time" because they got the sequencing right. It achieves its aim of making you hear things anew , and has me repeatedly exclaiming "holy shit, ANOTHER great piece of music"
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Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:56 am:   

at the risk of sounding cynical Allen, is the reason it works better on the new comp compared to In Time is because the music on the new comp is ten times better?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   

I'll agree on that one Kevin! The only songs post Document that I would consider brillant are "Nightswimming" and "Find The River", which has been mentioned before in a couple of previous posts in another REM discussion.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 07:36 pm:   

I wouldn't say cynical, Kevin, just the basic difference of opinion. For me everything up through "New Adventures..." is fine stuff indeed, the three that followed have their moments, and "In Time" resequenced chronologically is a highly enjoyable album.
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:17 am:   

fair point allen. i actually think New Adventures is the only album after Green I would remotely think of playing, and even then both these albums would be "programmed" accordingly to edit out the (imo) dross. New Adventures was the classic missed opportunity album which showed all the signs of a band that was "up its own arse". overlong, badly sequenced, but for me the biggest crime was recording some of it live and then "overdubbing it" in the studio. its either live or its not surely, release a live album for gods sake.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 02:43 am:   

Kev, as promised, I listened to "Cookie Mountain" and I have to say that I do see what the fuss is about. Relentlessly creative, fascinating stuff...hard to say if it will stand the test of time, whether I'll come to love it, but for now, my ears are very pleased...

Questions about groups I believe are from your "hood":

Arab Strap - do you like em, and did they break up?

Pastels - actually, I know they're from Scotland. Do you like them as well? I'm guessing they're defunct going on a long time now...
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 02:59 am:   

Hardin,
Arab strap - from falkirk, which is the next town to Grangemouth where I was born and bred, and as you probably know Grangemouth is the town which spawned the Cocteau Twins. Cant say I ever liked Arab Strap, I always found them a bit of a novelty act - yes they have just broken up.

The Pastels - always seemed to pass me by, you probably know more about them than me.

To be honest, apart from Belle and Sebastian, The Postcard acts, and Jesus and Mary Chain I dont really like Scottish bands. Too many Travis's, Simple Minds, Texas's etc for my liking. I am sure I have probably missed out some fantastic bands but its 02:55 am, I'm going to bed, and thats the best I can come up with :-)
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 05:03 am:   

Kevin, around 1990 I used to play a game with friends where we had to name as many crap Scottish bands as we could in a specified time period. (eg Simple Minds, Deacon Blue, Hue And Cry, Wet Wet Wet, Love And Money, Runrig, Bay City Rollers etc - Travis would have made the list had they existed then).

But a lot of good and great Scottish bands emerged after that; starting with Teenage Fanclub's Bandwagonesque album and continuing to more recent acts such as Franz Ferdinand.

And don't forget Primal Scream, Blue Nile, Orange Juice, Mogwai, Mull Historical Society etc.

Hardin, have a look at this 2003 article on the 100 best Scottish albums http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1021
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 09:06 am:   

The first Big Country album I reember playing and dug it out with in the last year or so but it didn't really like it after so may years, probably too grand over blown now.
Just been in to the garage to dig out some vinyl as I was convinced I had an old Townes Van Zandt LP which I remember not liking too much when I bough it. Hving bough a compilation on monday for Ł5 at HMV I was convinced it was Mother Mountain but it is actually " At my Window", so will play that later,
Also to play all on vinyl are:
Little Walter-Chess Masters volume 1 and 2
XTC-English Settlement
Dirty Dozen Brass Band
Jack Frost-it'll probably be its 2nd only play, but I feel I should revisit it now.
Martin Stephenson-Salutation Road
Otis Blue
George Jones-Burn the Honky Tonk Down
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 11:30 am:   

Padraig, I just knew I would miss off some bands that I like better than the ones I actually listed, thats what tiredness does - The Fannies being the obvious one.

That Top 100 list which I remember seeing on publication, just vindicates the game you used to play.

Sure its got Screamadelica, Psychocandy, Bandwagonesque/Grand Prix and Sulk. Its also got some utter dross which I cant even be bothered to list, suffice to say you listed some of them above.
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   

Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Ballad Of The Broken Seas
Nick Cave - Kicking Against The Pricks
Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Talk Talk - B-Sides
Associates - The Affectionate Punch
The Who - The Kids Are Alright OST
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 04:36 pm:   

I've spent my breakfast hour exploring Youtube. Some wonderful person posted the Chills' "Pink Frost." It's my first chance to hear pre-1990 Chills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ULozS5BJw&mode=related&search=

And another great human being has posted a bunch of Ed Kuepper videos. Here's an early one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbPq1eAuSGQ&mode=related&search=
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   

God, it got even better when I scrolled down.

The Laughing Clowns' "Eternally Yours."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2uvpei1NS4&mode=related&search=

Anybody know how long this stuff stays up?
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   

Jerry, I have been on a Talk Talk kick lately. I bought both East of Eden and Laughing Stock and like them a lot. I ordered The Colour Of Spring earlier in the week. Any other Talk Talk fans on this board?
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   

Eric B. & Rakim: "Follow the Leader"
Miles: "The Complete In a Silent Way Sessions"
The Streets: "The Hardest Way to Make an Easy Living"

Bargain bin find of the year: the remastered "Blood on the Tracks" for 99 cents. I thought it had to be scratched severely, but the scuffs were minimal and it plays just fine. Enhanced for SuperMegaWackySurround stereo systems, which I hope to upgrade to when I hit 80 or so. Finally my vinyl copy gets a rest.

Also, I brought home the "Yellow Submarine" DVD from the library for the kids in my house and they flipped hard for it, so now the insisted-upon music around the house is Beatles Beatles Beatles. It's always a nice feeling to help pass things like that along...
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   

talk talk's laughing stock and spirit of eden are superior. michael, if you like those albums you have immediately to buy mark hollis' selftitled album from 1997. anymore silence. highly recommended. one of my alltime fave album!

and - fuck- arab strap broke up. this is no good news. i liked them.

i listen to niyn nastasia's new album on leaving over and over again. pure and simple folk/singer-7songrwirter stuff. guitar, a bit piano, a bit drums and sometimes a cello creating a rough atmosphere (on first listening) then you can feel the melodies and the richness of the sound. remebers me a little bit on sonya hunter, but i think nina nastasia have the better melodies.
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Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 07:20 pm:   

Thanks Andreas for the Mark Hollis recomnedation!
I'll note it down.

NP Keren Ann - la biographie de Luka Philipsen

Just finished listening to Robyn Hitchcock's new one, Ole Tarantula. His best since Moss Elixer in 1996 would be my first impression.
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:48 am:   

I've been going through old cassetts lately and played East of Eden the other day. What an utterly incredible album. So far ahead of its time. Career suicide from a former pop chart hit band too.
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 01:41 am:   

Talk Talk always passed me by, maybe I never shook off the impression they were a top40 pop act once. Napster have Colour of Spring, which I am just downloading, they dont have East of Eden. Is this album any good?
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 08:29 am:   

kevin, as said above spirit of eden (and not east of eden , that's maybe the reason that they don't have it) and laughing stock are incredible albums. silence is the main word (more on laughing stock, but spirit of eden is the way to the silence and a album which contains both worlds of talk talk the ending pop period and the experimental/avantgarde or whatever you will call it). if you like both albums then go further to mark hollis 1997 output. silence, quietness!

and if you fellows like those gems you maybe will like the formidable music of savoy grand. even here reigns the sound of silence. a slow, harmonic one. highly recommended!
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 05:50 pm:   

Since I love "It's My Life", I've filed Talk Talk away as a subject for further research. Is the album of that title a good one to get, or if you could only get one, is "Spirit of Eden" the one?

Since I've been on a big downloading kick, I haven't really ventured into actual stores to buy anything, but I did make an exception for the new re-issue of "Rum, Sodomy and the Lash", which is a record that has some of the same kind of resonance for me as some of the Townshend stuff I was talking about a coupla weeks ago.

Nice job they did with it, too - tasty packaging and choice extras, including the previously raved about "Rainy Night in Soho" which I'm glad to get. I think the version that I already had on a comp isn't the original one that was produced by E.C. It also has "Body of an American", which was used recently to great effect in my favorite show, "The Wire".
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   

LK, now that you are downloading rather than buying, how do you listen to the music? Do you burn it to CD, or do you play it through MP3 player? Or like myself, do you have your PC attached to your hifi and playback this way? I reckon these days my listening is 60% stuff I have downloaded, 40% CD playback.
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 07:52 pm:   

I am burning discs like a big fiend. Don't really have the smarts or expertise (though it probably wouldn't be that hard) to set it up to run the PC thru the stereo...Plus, I'm a serious Luddite, and also the media are so incredibly cheap (about 12 cents a blank disc at Office Depot)that burning a disc and having a physical object to fondle and put on the mantelpiece is a gentle way for me to make the transition from buying to burning. I think said I this here before, but now I truly feel in my gut why the big greed-dog record companies are on the way out, as opposed to it just being something I knew intellectually...
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 08:20 pm:   

LK, you are right about it not being that hard. all you need is a "Y" cable from your friendly PC emporium (mines cost Ł20) to hook between your PC and your amp. Of course, this means the PC and the amp have to be in the same room which I suppose not everybody does. To get even better sound I then invested in a "soundblaster" device which cost about Ł80, this is a serious improvement on your PCs soundcard and enhances the sound no end. So for an initial outlay of Ł100, combined with a Ł10 monthly Napster subscription I have literally millions of songs a click of a button away. CD does sound better, but I would say playing back MP3s through my amp and speakers via the "y" cable and soundblaster is about 80% of the quality of CD. I have saved an absolute fortune this year, although I still buy things like TV on the Radio, Sparklehorse, Dylan, Hot Chip on CD because part of me still wants to have the artifact. Oh, and a 160GB hard drive comes in handy.
Its the future and its here :-)
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 08:38 pm:   

Yeah, to quote a great pop group, "I'm a believer", and I'm not sure I've done justice to what a Luddite I am. Me becoming a big downloader is akin to my waking up one day and announcing I'm a Republican.

And, you know, I'm like you - in some cases I really do want the artifact, as was the case with the Dylan. But honestly, with most things, I don't really care. And, the sound isn't quite as good with MP3s, but the bottom line is, it's fine - perfectly adequate.

The other thing about brick and mortar stores I didn't mention is the decreasing availability of anything but the most obvious hit stuff. If it's the least bit obscure they just don't stock it - it just isn't worth their while. For instance, I had to hunt far and wide for the Midlake. And, I live 40 miles from L.A., one of the biggest cities in the world. I should be able to walk into a store and buy anything I want, dagnabit!

Thanks for the equipment recommendations. I'll have to seek those things out. Someone told me there's also a cable you can buy to hook your iPod directly up to your hifi, as well.
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   

LK, I very rarely buy CDs from a store. I normally buy online for 2 reasons. One as you say is availabilty, two is the price. Dont know if you have HMV in the States but they are beyond a joke. Chart stuff is approx Ł10, back catelogue stuff averages about Ł16.99 - incredible. Back catelogue stuff online is normally Ł7-10, sometimes cheaper. The bulldozers are primed and ready to go, and good riddance.
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Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:20 pm:   

All of Talk Talk's output is worth having IMO.

They tranformed themselves from pop to arena synth-rock to jazzy avant-garde experimentalists. (genre's are such bullshit)

I read that the band became disillusioned with success so much they had to kill it. What better way than going down the arty route? Radiohead have followed the exact same trajectory, I wonder if they're fans??
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 01:44 am:   

Listened to Colour of Spring and thought it was ok on first listen. I think the vocalist and myself could have issues though, never really been keen on that type of delivery. Will play a few more times though.

YLT - ....beat your ass. This one is still getting regular spins. That song, Black Flowers, I love it but it sounds familiar. Anybody got any idea what its reminiscent of?

Lightnin Hopkins - Prestige Profiles. Cant beat some good ol' country blues and Lightnin was the master.

Joy Division - Permanent. Sometimes you just want to hear the "hits"

Four Leaf Clover, and The Willie Maley Song, both from "The Official Celtic Album". Just to get me in the mood for this afternoons Celtic Vs Rangers tussle.

Padraig, seeing you are ahead of the rest of us, post us the score in a few hours time to see if it is worthwhile me going to the game or not :-)
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:39 am:   

Blue Nile - Peace at last
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:22 am:   

What a win Kevin! Rangers have now only won five of the last 25 Old Firm SPL games and have only won one of the last 15 Old Firm games at Celtic Park. What was the atmosphere like? Magic I assume? I love that Miller scored!
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andreas
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 09:51 am:   

kevin YLT's 'black flowers' is pure JOHN CALE!
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kevin
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   

Padraig it was fantastic. some more stats for you.
Rangers have not scored in the last 5 Old Firm games! The atmosphere was fantastic yesterday,Kenny Miller was destined to score that goal yesterday. Paul Le Guens honeymoon period is well and truly over now. Sacre Bleu!

Andreas, will listen to 'black flowers' soon to see if I agree with you.
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kevin
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 05:04 pm:   

Padraig, somebody gave me a copy of the new Drones album, and I was sure that you had mentioned them and sure enough found you raving about them on this thread. Must say I wasnt that impressed on first listen, a bit dirgey and not particularly tuneful. Whats your feelings on the album now, have you cooled or do you like it even more? I know I have only had one listen and shouldnt make snap judgements but it left me cold - they do seem to be getting very good critical reviews in the monthly music mags recently though.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 02:41 am:   

Have not played it since that first three plays Kevin. It is "a bit dirgey and not particularly tuneful" as you said, but I really did like it. The lyrics are intriguing and a couple of the songs refer to the Irish experience in Australia, which always makes my ears prick up. None of the band have Irish names by the way.

Enough about music, how about the Bhoys? What a fantastic win. Were you there? The atmosphere mush have been amazing.
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kevin
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 10:13 am:   

It was fantastic Padraig. 60,000 Celtic fans in full voice, there were only 3,000 Manchester United fans at the match and they could hardly be heard. Celtic took a bit of a pounding in the first half but managed to get to half time at 0-0, but we were marginally the better team in the 2nd half and deserved the victory in the end.
Manchester Utd had only 2 shots on goal, and one of them was the missed penalty. I am still buzzing, and my hearing is just returning to normal after all that din.
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Wolfgang Steinhardt
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 06:22 pm:   

The Raybeats - Guitar Beat
Clannad II

two gemstones from a bargain box at the second hand shop - brilliant enough to forget the other five I bought. Maybe a question for Pádraig: these Clannad before they vanished into computerized esoteric clouds were just brilliant - what are the highlights of Irish folk next to the Chieftains ?
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Little Keith
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 06:35 pm:   

I love the Raybeats, Wolfgang. Congratulations on your discerning taste! One or more of the members (I forget which) later formed my favorite surf music group, Los Straitjackets...
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Wolfgang Steinhardt
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 06:43 pm:   

...and it goes on and on: now I have to check out Los Straitjackets! Hope my ipod still works when I got to sleep under bridges:-)
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 07:59 pm:   

Last night, I was listening to the expanded version of "Hounds of Love" - hadn't played it since I first bought it a while back. One of the bonus tracks is this really pretty, really short tune called "Under the Ivy." Last night, under the influence of red wine, "Under the Ivy" struck me as the germ of the idea for the first section of Ian McEwan's "Atonement." Anyone read "Atonement" and know "Under the Ivy"? It's a stretch, I admit, but the feeling I got from the two pieces was remarkably similar.
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Eelco de Jong
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 08:09 pm:   

Ulrich Schnaus- Far away trains passing by
Tiger lillies- Circus songs
Wovenhand-consider the birds
Yo la tengo- We're not afraid...
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Little Keith
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 08:36 pm:   

Haven't read Atonement, Rob, though I've read most of the rest of McEwan's work. "Saturday" was excellent, if sobering and more than a little depressing...
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 09:24 pm:   

Read "Atonement", LK! One of the better novels I've read in the past few years - I'd even say it's McEwan's best. I liked "Saturday," but "Atonement" far surpasses it.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 11:12 pm:   

Wolfgang, I'm no expert on Irish traditional music, but you can't go wrong with Planxty. Moving Hearts were also very good. Horslips mixed rock music with Irish trad quite successfully. I think Cichli Suite, who posts here, is more of a trad fan than I am.

Kevin, thanks for the atmos description. I'd love to have been there. One day.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 03:02 am:   

Is this the current "what are you listening to" thread now?

Today I used the car with the CD changer which is when I get the chance to properly LISTEN to something. So I had a nice uninterrupted listen to Bettye LaVette's "I've Got My Own Hell to Raise." This magnificent album misses all the pitfalls I feel Solomon Burke's effort from last year hit. Songs by Sinead O'Connor, Lucinda Williams, Joan Armatrading, Rosanne Cash, Dolly Parton, Aimee Mann, Toni Brown and Fiona Apple are reinvented as the blues forms that have been Ms. LaVette's territory for the last decade or so, but with imaginative and varied arrangements. Joe Henry should be proud and I hope the album was a creative epiphany for LaVette who's made a few great records in the past when given the freedom but has never stretched quite this far. It's a perfect album for that infamous musical misogynist Kevin.
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kevin
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Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 08:09 am:   

Sorry Randy, this is an old "what are you listening to" thread . I revived it because Padraig had mentioned The Drones in it, and I wanted to find out if he still liked it because I had just acquired it and found it a bit of a hard listen. Although I played it again last night and was a bit more impressed, I think I will stick with it. Sometimes slow burning albums are the most rewarding.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   

Do stick with and listen to the lyrics Kevin. The CD has a lyrics booklet, which makes it easy, but I'm sure you did not get a lyrics download from Napster. So listen closely. I love the way the singer speaks in such a strong Australian idiom too. No mid-Atlanticisms (or mid-Pacificisms in this case) for him.
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Aidan Brewer
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Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 10:00 pm:   

The Colourfield - Virgins and Philistines

Terry Hall at his best!
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 03:47 am:   

Played some of The Godfathers last night and was rocking round the kitchen, taking the occasional air guitar solo while doing the dishes.
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spence
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Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:03 am:   

Aidan, have you got the Colourfield on CD? I've been after it for ages.

Its a great LP, I alos loved the singles apart from th awful Sly cover fo Running away. The B-sides, Pushing up the dasies and their take on Windmills of your mind were brilliant.

Padraig was that Work School Death per chance?
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:49 am:   

No SPence, the one after that. The one with Believe In Yourself - the song that always makes me break out the air guitar and all-too-real harmony vocals.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 11:29 am:   

Spence, it was actually the 1991 album Unreal World. I love that album.
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Aidan Brewer
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Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 01:14 am:   

Spence, I got the Colourfield album off of soulseek. The vesion I downloaded is the Japanese reissue with 10 bonus tracks, which include both of those b-sides. It is impossible to find on cd anywhere at a reasonable price, which really is a shame. $200 on amazon!
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spence
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Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 10:19 am:   

Erm, Aidean, would you like to be my friend!?

No, only joking, that's unbelievable!! I would happily buy a copy from you if you wouldn't mind, is taht a possibilty? I really miss the Colourfield.

Mr Hall once came into my mate's shop to ask for a CD by a group called the Delicious Monster a group that were like, arch enemies of my group at the time, early 90's, and you should have heard him speak, it was hilarious, he entered the shop in his unfussed usual miserable looking manner and could barely contain himself at his 'bored with everyone' look and attitude. I love the man, he's a hero of mine, bu this was really funny. It was one of those where someone walks in the room and you wait to pour out the laugfhter when they leave!
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andreas
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Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 08:03 pm:   

colourfield, fun boy three, terry hall - a direct hit.

i think i am a kind of , ah, fan. 'pushing up the daisies' and their version of 'windmills of your mind', great, great, great! FBT's 'waiting' is one of my all time favourite lp's. i could go ahead swarming, but i would like to tell you a short tale.

somewhere in the nineties dave stewart came to berlin. that is nothing to get excited, but terry hall played as opening band. and that driven us crazy. so, my now wife and myself, immediately bought expensive tickets (to nowadays prices they were cheap). the day of the concert arrived and we went to the hall. we were early and took the chance to stay near the front of the stage. but only a few other people stood near the stage, the most people seemed not very interested, stood in the back and talked. terry hall and his band came on the stage. about thirty people began to applaud (us included) like i am never heard before. the rest of the crowd wasn't really interested. terry hall played songs from his solo albums, from colourfield and from FBT. it was a remarkable gig. and the a.m. thirty people freaked out. after terry hall finished his gig all changed. our small 'hall'- crowd moved away from the front and the other ones moved forward. no one of these terry hall fans was really interested in dave stewart's set. we listened to him and everyone of us stayed (somewhere in the back) only because we had the hope that terry hall returned to the stage to do a song with dave stewart (they made a not so spectacular record together). but unfortunately it didn't happened. nevertheless, around 45 minutes we were in heaven. this evening was incredible and unforgettable.

p.s.: our local radio station broadcasted the gig which i recorded. it is one of the tapes which survived my separating of all of my tapes a few years ago.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 10:16 pm:   

Hey, LK, the kids are rediscovering Lindsay Buckingham!

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/track _reviews/Lindsey_Buckingham_Under_the_Sk in

It is now officially safe for emo kids to cover "Second Hand News." The 'fork has spoken.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 10:45 pm:   

Next, they re-examine the work of Billy Joel in his pre-stardom band, the Hassles. The real Godfather of Punk? Not to mention Elton John's "Tumbleweed Connection," the seminal alt-country album.

By the way, this message is not a jab at Buckingham, it's a jab at Pitchfork (ooh, nice pun). To quote Marge Simpson, "well, DUH!"
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joe
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Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 11:22 pm:   

i've never understood the appeal of pitchfork. i'm a kid (24....eeek!), traditionally a britpop kid at that, and i've always found the site too coolsie us rock for my liking.

plus i once read an embarassing and quasi-offensive review of psb's bilingual there which has left a foul taste in my mouth.

way to go lindsey anyway!!!
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 12:22 am:   

It's probably us old-timers who take Pitchfork too seriously, Joe, because we're desperate to fit in with the young "cool" kids. But obviously you see through them.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:35 am:   

seriously, don't bother with it. popjustice.com includes all you need to know to stay relevant, etc.

J.
xx
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Little Keith
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:40 am:   

Oh, be still my heart. I can listen to Lindsey Buckingham and feel validated. Seriously, it's not that different from a lot of stuff PF sucks hard, all that Devendra Banhart (sp?) stuff, Vetiver, etc....actually, I think their liking LB has the opposite effect, possibly ruining him for me...it's like the episode of Seinfeld where Jerry freaked out when he found out that Newman had dated his new girlfriend, ultimately having to break up with her...
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joe
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:55 am:   

they still sound kinda spiteful to me...almost resentful lindsey's new found (errrr?) acclaim and the fact that he's put out another quietly terrific release.

oddly enough, the 'mac are the only band my sisters (hair/fm/cock-rock and emo, respectively) have picked up from me after my years of yammering on and playing thousands of other records.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 03:10 am:   

LK, let not the 'fork ruin Lindsay for you. I think he deserves the props, however and from wherever they come.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 03:33 am:   

Joe, I almost want to hear the band your sisters form.
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joe
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 05:02 am:   

i put them somewhere in the vaccinity of a rail disaster featuring the charred remains of trent reznor, bob dylan and avril lavigne (sp?). and maybe some later era bangles, for good measure.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   

Joe, if you don't already write music reviews for public consumption, you need to start. That was genius.
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joe
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 09:43 pm:   

oh you! i could think of few things i'd love to do more, only that it would require me listening to the occasional new release, which is generally a painful experience. seriously...it took me close to a year to finally give oceans apart a go. which i really now quite like, mind.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 02:28 am:   

Joe the 24 year old Luddite. Your future frightens me, my lad. You need to meet Pete Azzopardi, another Victorian riding the time machine elevator. He lives somewhere in Melbourne last I heard.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 02:41 am:   

He still does Randy. We drank many, many, many pints of Guiness together there a few weeks ago!
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 02:41 am:   

So many I can't remember how many in fact. Mmm, Guinness.
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joe
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Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 04:52 am:   

feel free to hook me up!

anyone else going to the v festival to for tennant/black goodies?
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 05:39 am:   

Probably not going to V Joe. I saw Pixies in their heyday and, while I would like to see them agaim, the price is extortionate when there is little else on the bill I give a damn about. I'm sure they will play some side gigs though so maybe I'll go to one of them.
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spence
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Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

Nice Terry story Andreas!
The Specials were on Rock goes to college, from '79, brilliant, what life that band had, all the skinheads and rude boys/girls got up dancing on the stage, not one mosh pit in site!!!!

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