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     abigail law Member Username: Abigail Post Number: 111 Registered: 06-2005 |
she could do worse than... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment /6290091.stm | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1353 Registered: 05-2005 |
... but not much worse. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1183 Registered: 05-2005 |
nah, they were ok, I quite liked em, shit individually, Together Alone is a really great album, I saw them live at that time and they were really very good, they used to enjoy a laugh on stage too. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1354 Registered: 05-2005 |
sorry, but they are blander than a bland man from blandsville. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 219 Registered: 04-2005 |
Sorry but could you be more specific on the degree of blandness Kevin? I have one release by them 'Woodface' and it is dull, dull, dull....but I have friends (whose opinions I value) who really liked them live. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1185 Registered: 05-2005 |
ah, the wonderful world of subjectiveness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1355 Registered: 05-2005 |
I stand corrected, I think they are blander than a bland man from blandsville. Actually, what I really think of them cannot be repeated on a family forum  | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 417 Registered: 01-2005 |
Spence, I'll side with you on this one. When we do 1991, Woodface will be in my Top 10. I though the Seven Worlds Collide concerts were great with the added musicians. Too bad they couldn't tour with Johnny Marr and Radiohead's Ed O'Brien and Philip Selway and have brother Tim Finn join them. Now, that would be a great tour! The SWC DVD is out of print and the only used copy is going for $79.99! | ||
| Matt Ellis Member Username: Matt_ellis Post Number: 149 Registered: 11-2004 |
Thanks for the tip Michael - I keep threatening to ditch my SWC VHS for a copy on DVD! I'm debating weather to go to see Tim Finn solo in London in March. I'm a newcommer to his solo material. I've seen a few Finn Brothers gigs and one Neil Finn. Can anyone help as to which is a good Tim Finn album to start with? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1456 Registered: 03-2006 |
I prefer Neil to Tim, but that said, Tim is very good. And also, there's nothing quite like their harmonizing together in SWC, is there? Chalk it up to the brother thing, but it's as though the heavens crack open and big honking rays of sunlight shoot down when those two blend their voices. One I like a lot by Tim is the one called simply "Tim Finn". Great songcraft, very personal, with a little less reliance on keyboards than is typical for him. Bland I know, Kev, but what can I say? I even like 16LL One man's vanilla is another man's chocolate. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 419 Registered: 01-2005 |
LK, Have another piece of chocolate cake! | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1457 Registered: 03-2006 |
Great song dude! No getting a song reference by Keithito! | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 220 Registered: 04-2005 |
And the reunions keep on coming! James' dates announced and now the Jesus and Mary Chain... http://music.guardian.co.uk/news/ | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1356 Registered: 05-2005 |
Why is it the bands you really wanted** to reform never do, and the ones that do reform you either dont like, or (like the Mary Chain)you think "why bother" ** = The Smiths, The Clash(before Joe died),Husker Du, The Replacements, Josef K, Talking Heads | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1188 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jesus! ...and Mary Chain! Actually both bands were sounding real good towards the end of their lives. I was a big James fan from the real early days watching them atthe local Poly to the NEC. Some people think they sold out due to the arena concerts, but in my nhumble they were a real exciting bunch o guys to watch and listen to, and all credit to em as they once nealy went bust and persevered to make a few cracking albums. The last one remains a real undervalued body of work. My affection for them is the same as if the Gobees might have made it even bigger then they are/were, you know, starting from humble beginnings etc etc and followingthem right through to majestic concerts. Don't get me wrong either you cynical lot, am not an arena fan, you'll never find me watching Rush at the NEC that's for sure!! LOL | ||
| XY765 Member Username: Judge Post Number: 160 Registered: 01-2006 |
the last JAMC album was excellent.... | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 928 Registered: 03-2005 |
I've been getting a kick out of reading the squabbles on this thread. Vintage Kevin! I would not want the Talking Heads to reform. They would do dreck. When I saw David Byrne on stage a year or two ago one of the few new songs he did was a very sappy song about his granddaughter. I have no objection to somebody doing a song about his granddaughter but this really was every bit as soggy as it might be. Spence, guilty as charged. We rely upon you to bring in the sunshine. The last J&MC album I bought was "Automatic." They seemed to be making the same record over and over so I stopped paying attention. What was the last album? Tell me something about it. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 1176 Registered: 04-2005 |
I agree with Randy...a Talking Heads reunion would be unfortunate. Their last couple of albums had been subpar and they couldn't stand one another anyway--so it's not like they were cut down in the prime of their creative life. They'd run their course. I'm glad the Clash never got back together--but Strummer and Jones did work together on some BAD stuff, and appeared onstage together not too long before Joe died. That's as close as they needed to get. Look at the brief Velvet Underground reunion in '93--a bit of a taint on the formerly unassailable legend. The one who needed the money the least--Lou--was not only the prima donna and antagonist of the others, but he was also the one who performed poorly, unable to sing his old songs decently. So I say be glad for the bands with the integrity and/or smarts not to get back together. Be glad the Smiths, Josef K, Husker Du, etc., quit before they started to suck. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 930 Registered: 03-2005 |
And be VERY glad the GoBees got back together. For me personally, it changed my life. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1190 Registered: 05-2005 |
Excellent points Kurt and Randy. Here endeth this thread for me. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1459 Registered: 03-2006 |
Spence, I agree with your James love. Don't have all the albums, never seen them live, 'cept in videos, and don't know what their rep live is, but I have a few of their records and I think they're pretty wonderful. "Laid" is a classic album. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 420 Registered: 01-2005 |
Kurt and Randy, I'll agree with you guys on the Talking Heads reunion sucking most likely. I head a couple of songs from the VU reunion tour, Lou's voice could no longer hit the notes. Did you know the Galaxie 500's song "Tugboat", was about the VU's Sterling Morrison, who was a tugboat captain? "I don't want to go to your party/ I don't want to talk with your friends/ I don't want to vote for your president/ I just want to be your tugboat captain/ It's a place I'd like to be..." What a great song, and a little bit of a shot at Lou I'm thinking. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1462 Registered: 03-2006 |
Actually, I don't think a Talking Heads reunion would ever happen, it's about as likely as a Beatles reformation, but I think Byrne is a great enough artist to pull it off. I've followed his solo career pretty closely, and I think it's been more than decent. His last album wasn't bad, and the one before that, "Look Into the Eyeball" was excellent. I've seen him live too and he puts on a helluva show. His salsafied version of "Sympathy for the Devil" brought the house down in the little N.O. theater I saw him in... No, the problem is the other "Heads"...decent enough musicians, but left to their own devices, they produce bupkes...That whatever it was called, "No Talking, Just Head" was a complete excresence. There won't be, but if there were a reunion, Byrne would have to have complete creative control. And, trust me, he could pull it off, make it something interesting, even if it didn't quite meet the jaw-dropping greatness of them at their peak. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 1179 Registered: 04-2005 |
A few random observations: If Byrne had total creative control, how would it be different than a solo Byrne album, except with the other three as his backing band? I don't see the point in that. The other members of the Heads demanded a certain amount of say in the arrangements, and of course, their style of playing imposes a certain sound. Honestly, if the other three had been egoless and gone along with whatever Byrne had wanted all along, I think they would have stayed together and they would have made albums very much like his solo albums. The "Talking Heads sound" came out of the tension and push-pull of Byrne and the other members (which is usually true of bands). Michael, Alejandro Escovedo also had a song called "Tugboat" that was dedicated to Sterling, though the lyrics were a bit more abstract. Going back to the "squabble": Kevin, what's your definition of bland? Based on the sound of their music, I'm having trouble figuring out how Crowded House are "blander" than a number of other bands we tout here--I'm thinking Midlake, Pernice Brothers, and--yes--even the Go-Betweens. Mind you, I'm not a huge CH fan but I respect them and Neil Finn, and I just don't see how they deserve such a harsh dismissal. Is it because they became very popular? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1463 Registered: 03-2006 |
Errmm, you make a good point, sir. Let me back off of "complete" and fine tune that to "control to the extent he had on all the other albums", which I think was pretty well nigh complete. He wrote all the songs anyways, shaped the sound, set the direction...It sounds to me like he was, if not the "controller" (lapsing into Bushspeak), he was certainly the architect, the director, (in cahoots with Eno) of "Remain in Light", for instance...the other three, in my little ideal scenario, would not be allowed to have any kind of songwriting or real creative input, apart from playing their instruments in as inspired a fashion as possible. I think that'd probably produce some pretty nifty music. It could well be analogous to the GBs Mk. II - not as good as the glory days, but still pretty damned good. Because I'm coming from the point of view of someone who likes Byrne's solo albums (by and large, veering from decent to really great) and thinks the "Heads" by themselves were pretty abysmal, I tend to minimize their input. I think when Byrne's songwriting was on, the THs were great and it wasn't, they were not so great. I guess I don't prize their contribution that much, that is apart from their ability to be kickass musicians when appropriately guided and cajoled. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 1137 Registered: 05-2005 |
James sucked. Kevin's description of Crowded House works for me with James. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1358 Registered: 05-2005 |
Im with Padraig regarding James Kurt, amongst many things that make me dislike CH, the main thing is I think they are only in it for the fame and money, the other bands you mention are in it solely for the music imo. CH are corporate in the extreme. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 1180 Registered: 04-2005 |
Sorry, Kev, I don't mean to be a jerk--this is just in the spirit of lively discourse--but how do you know they're just in it for fame and money? How do you know they didn't care about the music? It sounds to me like they paid some attention to it. OK, maybe they had a built-in advantage because Neil Finn came out of a well-known and fairly popular band before CH. And yes, they did craft accessible music, but that's not the same as being corporate. Do you think the Go-Betweens, Midlake, etc., would turn down Crowded House-level (or even, god forbid, U2-level success)? Do you think they try any less hard to be successful, both in terms of popularity and financial reward? How many musicians are purely in it for the art? Not too many, I'd hazard. I mean, even the Fall sell their songs for adverts. I mean, you have to start looking at people like Jandek to find the REAL anti-commercialists in the world. Also, I'd suggest that if you think Crowded House was corporate and in it for fame and money only, consider bands like Gorillaz or that latest Albarn/Simonon supergroup (The Good, the Bad, and the Queen or whatever...). Teaming up all-stars from defunct popular bands doesn't reek of corporate-style sales opportunity? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 1139 Registered: 05-2005 |
... but I don't agree with Kevin's description of Crowded House. Their first two albums are both great. Each album after that also had their moments. (Though I have to admit absolutely hating Woodface when I first heard it). I don't think for a second that Neil Finn is in it for the money or fame either - but everybody has to feed their family and pay the mortgage/rent. From everything I've ever read about him he seems to be a genuinely nice person. His first solo album is really good too; but I haven't heard his solo stuff after that - which is, I imagine, precisely why he is reforming Crowded House. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1360 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt, after having my knuckles rapped by Spence I tried to be more subjective by prefacing my accusation of them just being after fame and money by saying "I think...". I have no proof of this, just a gut feeling, the same gut feeling that tells me Sting, Phil Collins, Blunt etc are also just after fame and money. I would qualify that by saying I dont think CH are as "guilty" as the aforementioned,they probably started off with the right intentions,just like REM and look what happened to them. Ultimately I judge bands on the music, so I think( ) Crowded House are rank in the extreme and to be honest I am allergic to bands(of their type) who sell millions of records - I would imagine that the contents of the record collections of the majority of people who bought these million sellers would make us run a mile, and that is the most damning thing I can say about them. There is nothing challenging or inventive or groundbreaking about them and that is enough to make me dislike them. | ||
| XY765 Member Username: Judge Post Number: 161 Registered: 01-2006 |
Randy, 'Munki' was the last JAMC album and one of their better ones in my opinion. Automatic is their worst. I stopped getting their stuff after Automatic as well. The Reid's sister, Siter Vanilla, also appeared on a few tracks on Munki and was a welcome addition. Pretty hard sound through the record though not in a feedback type sense. Ain't no good at reviewing music Randy so I'll have to leave it at that. And the album starts and closes with two great tracks, I Love Rock n Roll and I Hate Rock n Roll. And James & Crowded House bore me to tears... | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1192 Registered: 05-2005 |
Abigail. look what you gone done missy!? Listen fellas, at the end of the day, Crowded House, a name you either liked or disked. I personally liked them. However, I only liked Woodface and Together Alone. Live, they were a very, very entertaining band. Now, anyone who dislikes them for their music and supposed corporate stance, I would say, ok that's your opinion, however, as happens with many groups, the gig maketh the band - right? Its no good saying Midlake or whoever are the greatest band in the world if they cannae cut it live (I've heard they are shit live). Crowded House could really play live, they were a fu*kin rock band live, they totally rocked in a non Aerosmith or Coverdale (everyone thinks the sun shines outta my supertar arse) way. For me, if you didn't witness CH live, then to call them bland just because of their recorded output is really being judgemental (for the sake of their recorded utput of which you may detest), when this band were really a live - gigging band. James are the same, they became a gigging band, the live James experience was amazing, they were less known for their final two albums. Incidentally, I saw both of these groups from humble beginnings, James at shitty pubs or polytechnics when they would sleep at peoples digs after gigs, and CH at a small pub (Goldwyns) in Birmngham in '91 playing to 400 people. Like Kurt said, who is going to turn down commercial opportunity, and the financial reward that comes with it? I truly believe that both these bands were great, firstly on a purely artistic level, and yes they found fame too. But, i wouldn't put them along the lines of Sting et al, that's just daft. For me also, as I am getting older, I care less about who has and hasn't made money to be honest, if I like the tunes and after all its all about the music - right? then that'll do me. (I see no point in going after the Royal family either as has been expressed on this board, noone cares anyomre, they are over, like when Johnny Rottenm keeps coming back from the US and stating that he still dislikes the family, get over it man, you don't even live round these here parts!!) The day i worry about people selling out have long gone, like worshipping The Farmes Boys when I was 14, and thinking, how comes Howard Jones breaks the Top 40 and not the Farmers Boys!?? Then when they did, I resented it, they went top 40 i think with a cover of Sir Cliff's In the country, and I was walking round going drat, my milkman is whistliung to the Farmers Boys, how dare he, they are my band!! So, in those days, damned if you were successful and damned if you weren't in my, blue, youthful eyes! I tell you what I learned last year was it? The singer out of The Gang of Four is absolutely disgustingly loaded, he's a fu*kin Internet millionaire, try explaining thet one to the skint young person spending 20 quid on a GOF t-shirt (in order to look NEWWAVE on the street) at one of their recent reunions! I bet Dave really hung around after his gig pay cheque to say hi to the masses... Phew, now where's Entomolgy... | ||
| David Matheson Member Username: David_matheson Post Number: 112 Registered: 12-2004 |
Crowded House were a great band. But I am surprised they are doing a reunion tour given the suicide of Paul Hester a couple of years ago. Tim and Neil Finn did a reunion tour last year (in Australia at least) with Split Enz, their 1970s-early 80s band. It was a real crowd pleaser and showed that they have still got it. (At least for those of us who thought they did have it in the first place.) I'd love to see a Crowded House reunion. | ||
| David Matheson Member Username: David_matheson Post Number: 117 Registered: 12-2004 |
More on the Crowded House reunion here: http://www.frenz.com/index.shtml | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1361 Registered: 05-2005 |
Hey, who are you calling daft? Just as well you are a few hundred miles away or I would come down and kick your butt Seriously Spence, this is getting out of hand and I'm beginning to wish I hadnt replied to Missy A's original post. I care so little about this band that I cannot believe I have wasted so many words on them to be honest, sorry, but some bands get me that way and I know it is probably something I probably require treatment for! As for the Royal family, the problem is that too many people still do care about them otherwise they would be overthrown/deposed/run out of town/beheaded - pick your own favourite. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1193 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yeah ok Kev. My point is that I don't see why a band such as CH should be a guilty pleasure. I'll get me coat..before Jay Bennett does! | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 553 Registered: 08-2004 |
I agree with Kurt. Having heard recent offerings from Midlake & The Pernice Brothers, there seems little difference between them & Crowded House's output. CH's big hits have been over-played beyond all reason, but still retain a distinctive charm. They've suffered singular overkill just like early '90's R.E.M. Too many singles + too much airplay = A bitter after-taste. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 554 Registered: 08-2004 |
I like James too BTW. Laid & Goldmother were top LP's, even the anthems are inoffensive IMHO. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1468 Registered: 03-2006 |
Well put, Spence. And Kev buddy, I feel your pain. Nothing I hate worse than getting stuck in an argument about shit I don't care about. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 938 Registered: 03-2005 |
I confess this thread has been great entertainment for me. Superb uncompromising slashing Kevin entries and passionate humanistic Spence defenses. Is it the lawyer in me? I have no opinion on CH at all. My observation is that Spence has spent a good deal of time around a lot of the people we talk about and has a pretty intimate knowledge of the behind the scenes reality which then makes it impossible to evaluate things strictly according to the outwardly visible part. And I think Spence is a supremely good-hearted man who will never be at ease slagging anything that he knows took somebody a lot of work to create. Even with my little forays at creation, I've found it necessary to tone down my assholic judgments of people's work because I'm learning about some of the mysterious dynamics behind making something out of nothing. As for who is in it for the money v. who is in it for the music, I'll bet we'd get some rude surprises if we knew. I do truly believe to the bottom of my soul that the GoBees were doing what they were doing because they just couldn't bring themselves to do anything else. Peace, brothers. XY, thanks for the info about "Munki" because, yes, "Automatic" is one of those albums that made me wander away just like "Henry's Dream" did for me with Nick Cave for years. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1363 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jerry, I look forward to Joe Pernice inviting me to his plush Bahamas retreat, bought with the royalties Joe accrued from the multi million selling Pernice Brothers album Live A Little. This seems a formality, given the similarities between them and CH. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1194 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy thanks, made me blush. Kev, you are still the Godafther of the board my man, Reespec! - always | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1364 Registered: 05-2005 |
You dont get round me that easy Spence, I'm still gonna kick your butt at the Go-Bs convention in 2010 or whenever it is | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 1183 Registered: 04-2005 |
That's after Kevin finishes kicking my butt, though! Back to the peace and love...and going back to ridiculing and degrading the artists we ALL hate. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1469 Registered: 03-2006 |
Everybody: "Kumbayah, My Lord, Kumbayah..." | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1195 Registered: 05-2005 |
"Oh Lord, Kumbayah!" Sounds like the new Grinderman single | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1470 Registered: 03-2006 |
Maybe it should be, "Hey now, hey now..." | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 556 Registered: 08-2004 |
Kevin, there's no way you're going to the Bahamas. Once they've made it big the first people they'll forget will be the "real" fans. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 1145 Registered: 05-2005 |
I've forgotten how to do the smiley thing. I wanted to put one on the browser thread where I called you all geeks, but couldn't. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 942 Registered: 03-2005 |
Just type a colon and the righthand parenthesis Padraig. Don't include a dash for a nose. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 559 Registered: 08-2004 |
Only a geek would use a parenthesis! A bracket does the trick for me. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 1152 Registered: 05-2005 |
Got it! Thanks lads. Is a parenthesis the same thing as a bracket then? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1478 Registered: 03-2006 |
It turns out Crowded House are indeed reuniting and playing at the Coachella Festival, here in So Cal. But get this, get who's stealing their thunder: Rage at the fuckin' Machine! Who're playing the same day. Great. Every dumb ass mullet-headed dimwit in Cali will be there. Still may be worth it, though. Maybe they'll be on separate ends of the festival grounds and RATM will draw all the lumpen ignoranti.... | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 1192 Registered: 04-2005 |
How does Neil Finn find time to play the Coachella Festival? I thought he was too busy out doing the devil's work with his pals Bono and Sting, pushing little old ladies in front of buses, kicking puppies, etc. So, is the full-on Rage Against the Machine with the orignal lineup? I mean, didn't three-quarters of that band go often to form Audioslave Inc. with that Soundgarden guy? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1483 Registered: 03-2006 |
I guess even Neil has to take time off from stealing babies out of prams and eating them, etc., every now and then to make a little cheese. I don't really know that much about the RATM reunion - in fact, am dismayed that I know as much about them as I do. The music writer from the local paper here is treating it like it's the second coming, though. I guess, unfortunately, So Cal has become the epicenter for that genre of music, whatever it's called. I call it, btw, "date rape music". It wouldn't seem though, would it, that they'd have much financial motivation to reunite, unlike say, Crowded House. I thought that Audioslave crap sold by the buttload... | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 950 Registered: 03-2005 |
That was very good for a laugh Hardin! "Date rape music." My blessed isolation has me totally innocent of what Rage Against the Machine sounds like. The band name alone says "you won't like it, Randy." Speaking of don't like it, I promise to try again later but I only made it to track three on Whipping Boy's "Heartworm" until I just couldn't take it any longer. They sounded like the Psychedelic Furs playing Wire for dumb people. I exorcised it by throwing on a CD of my own stuff. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 1154 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy, please try again with Whipping Boy. Listen to the lyrics. There's a brilliant one slagging Bono. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1205 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy i agree with your description of Whipping Boy, however I bought a few of their singles and really liked them, but your description is clock on and that's probably why they were as successful as the Longpigs. A guy I knew met the singer of WB and siad he was a really nice chap and a teriffic frontman. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1367 Registered: 05-2005 |
Thanks Kurt, your post at 9:35pm last night helped me to really nail just why I dislike Neil Finn, and his bands music so much: - Its all just so very "nice" RATM make awful music, but at least its not "nice", honestly I'm just waiting for the first posts on here praising the music of David Grey and James Blunt and Paolo Nuttini and Jack Johnstone and on and on......... Now excuse me while I go and put on Raw Power | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1210 Registered: 05-2005 |
Fu*k me no one will be able to talk about anything soon!!!!! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1370 Registered: 05-2005 |
Alternatively, we could all just agree with each other Spence. | ||
| Michelle M Member Username: Michelle Post Number: 26 Registered: 09-2004 |
I like Neil Finn's music and whenever I need to calm down a wee bit I will play his music. I sometimes think that he creates music based on ancient tunes that our shared ancestors created. Laugh you may, but it feeds and soothes me. The lyrics are quite bizarre so I ignore them. But I am a little gobsmacked that he would launch into some sort of reunion. Didn't they just put out a DVD of their going away party at the Sydney Opera House?! Hmm. At least he produces music that sounds like music. Now I will bag someone because that is what we do here. Bjork (don't care about the umlaut). A producer of a most disturbing cacophonous noise who has been known to dress up as poultry. Do people think, "Wow, she is so bad she must be good." I know I will live to regret this post but I bravely await protests. Yes I like Neil and dislike her. We all have an opinion and that is what diversity is all about. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1487 Registered: 03-2006 |
Weirdly enough, Michelle, I like 'em both. I wish they'd do a duet, in fact. But, I completely take your point and understand why Bjork has that "fingernail on blackboard" quality for many people. I also completely relate to your comment about music that sounds like music. Radical idea, huh? But sometimes you just wanna hear something that sounds more or less like a song - verse, chorus, maybe a bridge...sometimes I like more experimental, out there stuff, but sometimes you want something less cacophonous and more soothing... But, you don't think Bjork looked sharp in her swan get-up? | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 1488 Registered: 03-2006 |
Spence good buddy, give me a rundown on the Longpigs...don't know much about them, but they seem to have an excellent reputation. Wasn't the excellent and debonair Richard Hawley a member? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 1165 Registered: 05-2005 |
I loved Bjork's first album and a six track remix EP that came after it. The song Violently Happy is one of the most joyous songs I know. It puts me in a time and place I like and reminds me of a dear ex-girlfriend. The remix EP is more one for cold winter's night, but it's also very sensual. Not a single thing Bjork has done in the meantime has meant anything to me. Well, apart from the time she bashed that reporter live on camera in Bangkok airport. That was pretty funny. And thanks to youtube it lives on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfY7MjK4 L0 | ||
| Mark Leydon Member Username: Mark_leydon Post Number: 90 Registered: 05-2005 |
Thanks for that Youtube link Padraig. Classic! Actually there hasn't been enough discussion on this board yet about Youtube. I reckon it's a phenomenon - a fantastic resource, particularly for live music clips. You can spend hours watching old and recent live footage of favourite performers, following links to related artists etc. And then there's all the nutty stuff like Bjork's meltdown - or this wig out by a clearly 'tired and emotional' Glenn Milne (Aussie journalist) at a recent awards ceremony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOW-LbYYB 8g | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 1167 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Glenn Milne one is classic too isn't it? Most exciting Walkley's ever! | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1211 Registered: 05-2005 |
LK, Longpigs, they weren't bad really just the butt of jokes some time ago in the indie world over here. I think the singer was the son of royalty or something. Going back to a post above I made re we can't talk about anything, my point there is that Kev, i love you man, but you throw Mr Gray in with Blunt Nuttine and Johnstone (wish it was Willie!), which is fine, your point of view, but you reckon Gray's a shit songwriter? Somehow though, i don't see the connection. There hasn't been anywhere near the hype about Gray as there has been with those 3 pathetic attempts at singer/songwriters. I mean, the guy was around for 10 years before he had a sniff at real recognition. He's worked his craft, and slogged/gigged hgard. My mate Micky used to support him all over the place and I had been known to put the small roland guitar amp that they both shared on many a beer crate in the past, he cmae from the 'real' world. I can assure you that Mr Gray, whether you like him or not is not in the league of crapness. he did it the right way, I don't feel him being lumbered with the 'nice' people is justified, and I will NOT feel guilty for liking him!!!! No, no no! LOL Now where's The Boatman's Call... | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1373 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence, first of all I assume the Willie you wish it was is Willie Johnstone who used to play for Glasgow Rangers, if so, I hope you actually got him confused with the late,great Jimmy Johnstone, who of course played for the mighty Glasgow Celtic Sorry, but in the case of Gray,unlike yourself I can only judge him on the music which I just cannot stomach. I'm sure he is a great guy, but I do not see that side of him, who knows the other 3 guys are probably fantastic blokes but we will probably never know. Being cynical is not one of my strong points and I guess I havent covered myself in glory in this thread, but I sure as hell am not going to keep silent or be econimical with the truth on the subject of the music created by these people. | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 94 Registered: 07-2006 |
the longpigs remain the butt of many an indie joke over melbourne way as well. the only word i can think of describing their sound is "ugly"...which isn't altogether an indictment. kevin, sorry for taking a week to pick up on it, but you've won by heart now and forever with your thoughts on crowded house. it makes me wince hearing otherwise ambivalent people rave about them to this day. my fucking emocore twin sister has paul hester's picture wallpapered on her pc. lizard king indeed. i keep threatening her with a go-b's mix tape....i'll get round to it eventually. and for everyone that gave up on jamc with automatic - and i'm sure you've heard this before - but honey's dead is insanely fun! with muchos melody for frees! i love james too...in spite of how scary tim looks on the cover of his solo lp. seven is my fave and, frankly, i welcome the simple minds comparisons! i know they have a sad old man's tag in the uk, but i'm fortunate enough to not have to live there. i plan on visiting at the end of the year and have heard they might even be touring! | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 560 Registered: 08-2004 |
Bjork is a favourite of mine. But I've not heard any of her releases since 1998's Homogenic, her reluctance to stick to formula makes her a challenge even for her biggest fans, which on the face of it, I'm not. Tricky is a similarly frustrating artist, but it's a policy that's to be applauded. Bjork's one of those you either love or hate, my equivalent would be Bruce Springsteen. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 1197 Registered: 04-2005 |
Dear Lord, we humbly bow before you and pray that you kill this thread. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 1378 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt, I fear this thread could grow to mammoth proportions, a la the "Sound Quality of Oceans Apart" thread that made grown men and women weep. Whoever started that thread needs strung up!! | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 1199 Registered: 04-2005 |
Yeah, especially if you keep making statements like this: >>>but I sure as hell am not going to keep silent or be econimical with the truth on the subject of the music created by these people.<<< | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 1212 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kev, yes, my fave winger along with Mr Steve Highway. Good ol Willie. In the ol days i used to refer to CH as the music that people who loved 30 Something TVC series would like. That programme stank, and I thought CH did to a certain extent. That was then, as I mentioned somewhere age does mellow me, At the end of the day, no big... The UK is known for knocking everything that is successful. Even when Panzy ferdinand broke through, surely no one would slg the thin boys do good, everyone slagged em, not for the JK thing, but because they made it, they sold 2 million which is a shame. |