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Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 325 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 06:29 pm: | |
If you haven't seen it, here's Matt Groening's list of Forbidden Words for 2007, from the Life in Hell strip. The one that surprized me was "Rocktober"...I've been lucky enough to escape classic rock radio for years and years now, so I didn't know that was still around...so Electric Lunch is probably still around as well. It's all good Let's not go there Sweet! Awesome! Crunk Islamofascist Nucular Chocoholic Homeland What-everrrr! Rockoctober Blind Impactful Gravitas Multitasking Out of the mainstream The war on Christmas No-brainer Hottie Too much information I'm the decider Pimp We won't leave till the job's done Macaca LOL ROFLMAO Bully pulpit TomKat Pundit Liberal media Mainstream media We're not winning, but we're not losing Brangelina I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you Oh. My. God! Mission accomplished Plan for victory Stay the course Cut and run The phrase that I'm glad to see is finally fading is "It's (current popular star)'s world...we just live in it." |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1735 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 06:45 pm: | |
"Multitasking" particularly gives me the red ass...it's a myth, not possible, etc. What you end up doing is several tasks at the same time, not as well... It's simple physics - things take the amount of time they take. Doing them at the same time (that is if it were even physically possible to perform different tasks simultaneously) doesn't invoke some magic alchemy that creates more time... |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1306 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 06:59 pm: | |
I'd add "it is what it is" to Groening's list. I hear that one way too much at work. |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 595 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 08:40 pm: | |
"Am I bovvered" & "Does my face look bovvered". Matt Groening clearly hasn't absorbed The Catherine Tate Show's catchphrase of the century. Uttered by the same morons daily. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1737 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 08:51 pm: | |
And, of course, we should add this beaut, popularized by our current administration: "mistakes were made". |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 328 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 09:25 pm: | |
To go with the one I mentioned above: "It's all about me." Oh, but they're being ironic when they say it...uh huh. |
Mark Leydon
Member Username: Mark_leydon
Post Number: 98 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 10:30 pm: | |
'Absolutely' Now the most overused response in the English language. Gotta be banned. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 329 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:27 pm: | |
Jerry, I've never heard of Catherine Tate either, and going just by your description that's probably a good thing. |
kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1464 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 01:12 am: | |
Glasgow Rangers Sting |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 1087 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 02:19 am: | |
Eeep! I'm going to have to be silent! But it IS all about me! I've never meant that ironically! LK, my recollection is that "mistakes were made" was actually minted by the previous administration. 'It is what it is" makes me crazy. It took over for "shit happens." Out here there's a popular bumper sticker: "Mean People Suck." I don't see it that way at all. I think people who suck are really very very nice. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1321 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 08:45 am: | |
What's so wrong with I'm the decider? I agree with all the rest. Kevin, after the pretty great Sydney v Urawa Red Diamonds (2000 of whose fans were at the game) Asian Champions League match on Wednesday night a friend and I went to a nearby bar for a couple of sociables. There was a guy there in a Rangers shirt. We started singing The Fields Of Athenry. He took it very well. Smiled even. The Urawa fans are the best I've ever seen btw. Not just for the sheer numbers of them who flew to Sydney; but also for the singing, chanting and magnificent choreographed moves. Really brilliant. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1322 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 08:48 am: | |
It was a 2-2 draw. Sydney were a goal up after 56 seconds. Two up in the 22nd minute, but Urawa, no doubt inspired by their fans, never gave up. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1323 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 08:50 am: | |
Best chants of the night from our side: You only sing when you're whaling, sing when you're whaling, you only sing ewhen you're whaling. We'll never sign Kyoto We'll never sign Kyoto We'll never sign Kyoto. |
kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1466 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 12:17 pm: | |
Padraig , didnt Terry Butcher used to manage Sydney? I guess they must have sacked him because he is back in the UK. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1325 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 09:27 am: | |
Yeah, that donkey got canned as soon as the domestic season ended about six weeks ago. Branko Culina - father of Aussie international Jason - is now manager. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 146 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 10:29 am: | |
for the tip = "going forward", closely followed by "high level" gold! = "it's hard to say..." |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 147 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 10:30 am: | |
and is it finally ok to say cun+ again? i do it quite a lot and even when those around me reciprocate i'm never sure their heart's in it as much as mine is... |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1329 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 10:35 am: | |
Right now Joe I'm listening to Cun+s Are Still Running The World by Jarvis Cocker. And a great song it is too. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 148 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 12:36 pm: | |
a great song. i don't even need the lyrics or the vocal either....excellent intro. one of his best. and i'm somewhat fanatical on all things pulp. |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 539 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 01:57 pm: | |
joe and Padraig, sorry, but I think that cun+ is a very sexist and ugly word that is demeaming towards women and I'll walk away from a conversation where someone says it. I don't have any Jarvis Cocker records and don't plan on getting any. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 333 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 07:35 pm: | |
I know where you're coming from, Michael...when used to describe a woman it's close to the same level as those other words used to dehumanize gays, blacks, etc. It's complicated, though, by the fact that(please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, Padraig) across the pond the word is less gender-specific and applies to both sexes...it's in the same neighborhood as prick, jerk, dick, asshole. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 149 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:28 am: | |
yes....and might i highlight cock, prick and dick tere and ask where the differentiation from that of aforementioned c-word comes in? i consider myself to be a staunch feminist and i really don't see it. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 335 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:44 am: | |
I don't think there's any differentiation in the European use (though some would beg to differ), but over here things are dicier because it's been used so hatefully toward just one sex for so long. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 150 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 04:22 am: | |
yeah i get that i really do and growing up in australia it's long been regarded as the worse of the worst. the thing is though, at school and stuff, i only ever heard it directed at guys....which i realise is entirely different from it's stateside use as heard on the sopranos, etc. i was always told it was hateful etc by the women i was raised by and the like, but at some point i really started questioning the whole thing and all i could come up with for this reasoning was sheer self-loathing...the ugliest of ugly. it's still not something i'd use around my ma (shameless mummy's boy), but have no issue dropping it pretty much anywhere else. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1330 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 06:47 am: | |
It's a word I use exclusively (and very rarely) for men. I like it. It is a hateful word for someone who has done something really terrible. It has no sexual conotation at all for me. |
David Gagen
Member Username: David_g
Post Number: 30 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:34 pm: | |
Words are weapons, if you wannna express hate, u gotta use a hateful word. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 151 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 06:30 am: | |
god that's a lyric but for the life of me i cannae place it!!! the think the aesthetic of the word is much uglier than any definition or connotation that accompanies it. and also why it kinda works..... |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 152 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 06:33 am: | |
Pride's like a knife it can cut deep inside Words are like weapons they wound sometimes. I didn't really mean to hurt you I didn't wanna see you go I know I made you cry, but baby.... |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 480 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 01:20 pm: | |
I definitely agree with Allen - in my experience, the c-word is perceived as far less cutting and sexually charged overseas than it is here in the States. I have a South African friend here in Chicago and when I first met him I found his casual (and repeated) use of the word shocking. I realized, though, he used it pretty much the way I'd use dick, which I don't find shocking it all and often hear bandied about in business meetings. But its feminine equivalent is out of bounds here. As Michael made clear, many people find it downright offensive. |
Michelle M
Member Username: Michelle
Post Number: 35 Registered: 09-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 02:32 am: | |
One word that isn't forbidden and is used by a lot of Australians and New Zealanders is "bugger" and other variations, "bugger off" "go to buggery" "bugger it". Now, given what my Macquarie dictionary says it means, I am wondering why we use it so freely, myself included. It is even allowed in TV ads. One all time favourite (made in New Zealand I think) even had a dog uttering the word "bugger". |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1747 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 03:25 am: | |
Could it be that we in the US are a bunch of humorless, self-important, politically correct prigs? Nah, that could never be it... I'm as liberal and feminist as the next guy, but that does seem like a double standard. I am aware of the social mores here, but don't really profess to understand them, or how they evolved... How come you can say "dick" here freely, but not the c-word? It just don't make any buggering sense... |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 344 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 06:27 am: | |
I'm not enough of a linguist to track it either, LK, but my impression is that the main reason it's not in common use here is because, again, there's not a fraction of the foundation for it. PC probably has a bit to do with it, though I believe it's taboo status long predates the advent of that (and don't get me started on my belief that PC and PI are (like so many other dualities in life) a false dichotomy that keeps us from arguing about things that really matter... |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1749 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 04:23 pm: | |
Yup...maybe it's because c*nt is such an ugly sounding word...it doesn't have the festive air of, say, "pussy": "Hey everybody, let's start the party! Pussy's here!" |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 543 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 05:13 pm: | |
LK wrote: >"Hey everybody, let's start the party! Pussy's here!" Sounds like something Tony Soprano would have said when "Big Pussy" Bompensiero finally showed up. Too bad he ended up geting wacked. The Soprano's is ending up like The X-Files did, too many valuable characters getting clipped, wacked, bumped off, or disappeared. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 1752 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 05:23 pm: | |
One of my favorite characters... Yeah, I guess now that the show's wrapping up, they can afford to whack everybody. Despite being a huge fan of the show, I'm not really too disappointed that it's coming to an end. I think they've been running out of gas for a while - that last season, to me, was disappointing. The new issue of Vanity Fair has a great article on the show, with a great photo spread showing all of the characters who've been bumped off, in the conditions they were after getting killed, as though they'd just been dug up - Big Pussy with bullet holes, seaweed-draped, etc. It's the show's creator's (David Chase) feeling that there's just nothing more to do with the characters...they are not exactly the kind of people that are going to grow. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 154 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 06:46 am: | |
carmella is the italian mother i always not-so-secretely resented mine for not being. thankfully, mine's morals are reasonably in tact. i loved johnny sack...particular his interaction with his wife. beautiful (for the most part). |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1354 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:13 pm: | |
Yeah, Johnny's a real stand up guy Joe. You're not involved in the Melbourne underworld fued are you? |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 488 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:53 pm: | |
My first substantitive live show of 2007: Toumani Diabate at the HotHouse here in the Windy City. It was too brief but really outstanding. It's always something to see these far-flung African bands - this one from Mali - here in the heartland. Makes me feel like a card-carrying citizen of the world. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 489 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:55 pm: | |
Oops. Clearly, I mistook this for the live shows thread. |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 545 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 05:40 pm: | |
A minor character that I like that Tony Darrow played is Larry Boy Barise. He was also memorable in Goodfellas as Sonny Bunz, pleading with Paulie to buy a share of his restaurant so that he won't have to go on the lame and become a lammist. Goodfellas has so many quotable lines in it. I'm still scratching my head at Cosner beating out Marty for the Oscar for Dances With Wolves. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 160 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 01:52 pm: | |
ha...i just noticed your reply there padraig. few connections to the family these days, but i grew up around the corner from one of the sites of a particularly nasty underworld run in a couple of years back. the blind/surreal family loyalty thing rings right home though. as does the underlying presence of food throughout the series. all class. |