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kevin
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Username: Kevin

Post Number: 1529
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 09:23 pm:   

http://www.rollingstoneextras.com/patron 40songs/

Off the top of my head.

Wheres Kraftwerk?

The Clash?

Joy Division?

Neil Young?
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Rob Brookman
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Username: Rob_b

Post Number: 550
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 12:33 am:   

I can't imagine a Kraftwerk tune making it on to an American list like this, Kev. They were just a tiny blip on the radar over here, ditto - although less so - Joy Division. They just didn't have that big moment that would qualify them for a "Song that Changed the World," whatever the F that means. But the Clash and Neil Young are big no-shows. "Baby, One More Time..." had more impact than "Ohio"? Or anything by the Clash? And the Cure makes the list? And Black Flag (the token "cool" band)?

It's Rolling Stone. These days, banished from relevancy, they traffic in weirdness.
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Little Keith
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Username: Manosludge

Post Number: 1844
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 02:54 am:   

Are you having a laff? Are they having a laff? I can't read that without giving props to Sir Gervais.

Yep, the crux of the matter is the "changed the world" appellation. Who knows what the f that means? Hence it can mean anything.

That said, Guns n Roses? Gimme a f-ing break. God, I hate them. They represent, to me, all the talentless meatheads of the world, the thick, the clueless, the hopelessly third, fourth rate. All those deeply insecure and clueless souls in the world with ill-conceived tattoos...(someday I'm going to start up a website based on that theme: ill-conceived tattoos)

I don't know the Black Flag song - guess I'm not badass enough. The Britney song, well, Richard "Milkmaid Fetishist" Thompson covered it - I think there is a school of thought, an argument that can be made, that it is a well-constructed pop song. Likewise, I don't subscribe to it, but I understand that there's also a certain sect out there that thinks highly of the Cure. My question though, would be why that song. Certainly there are more compelling examples of what they do.

Quibbles aside though, and there will always be quibbles, such is the nature of such lists, it's probably not a bad list. I would listen, with at times, great relish, to such a mix tape.

All of the abovew said, couldn't they have included Elvis Costello's "Peace, Love and Understanding"? Would that that song did change the world....
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kevin
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Username: Kevin

Post Number: 1530
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 07:10 am:   

Now I quite like the White Stripes(although the next album needs to be a killer, else its bye bye), but can anybody tell me how Fell In Love With A Girl is on the list and Autobahn or Trans Europe Express by Kraftwerk isnt? Or several songs by New Order rather than the Cure, who just ripped off New Order. I Shot The Sherriff is not the song by Bob Marley that springs to mind, wheres Concrete Jungle, Exodus, Them Belly Full, No Woman No Cry or Redemption Song?
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joe
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Username: Dogmansuede

Post Number: 175
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:24 am:   

it's not american much is it?

at least we can be thankful for be my baby and i feel love both cracking the top 25. like a virgin being the token madge entry is poor form.
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David Gagen
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Username: David_g

Post Number: 46
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:50 am:   

No song has ever changed the world. Or poem or painting. Art is not of this world. At worst it is a pleasant distraction, at best it transcends into some other place of beauty or joy or some shit like that.

Having said that, I'd place Tambourine Man on the list as via Bryds it crossed over into so-called "folk-rock" and I spose that was important.

The Who's "Won't get Fooled again" mayb. What about Woody Guthrie's "This Land Is Your Land"? Mayb that was an important song?

Kick Out the Jams mayb.

I stopped reading RS about 10 years ago so I don't know what they are on about.
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Elizabeth Robinson
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Username: Liz_the_new_listener

Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   

'For What It's Worth' - to borrow a venerable album title - this list is half lip service and half bird cage paper. For a song to change the world, lifestyles have to change because it would function as a sort of catchphrase.

Surely the genre of rock and roll changed the world when it first emerged - whether it stoked rebellion or aided and abetted commercialism. Brian Wilson sold an way of life without ever setting foot on a beach, right? And a nod to Mr. Brookman - Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young even wrote a song with lyrics 'We can change the world'.

The Monkees obviously showed how rock and roll could become more barometer than rallying cry, more signifier than signal. (But I can't blame Mc Lennan/Forster for liking their sound when they were young!) Their faces sold records on the back of breakfast cereal, and a certain segment of society ate them up.

The world is saturated with forms of pop/rock now. It takes a major innovation in style to effect a paradigm shift. 'Video Killed the Radio Star' is a song that merely signals that the world changed. What song more than any other heralds the use of MP3 players?

End of rant....

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