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kevin
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Post Number: 1632
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:55 pm:   

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Daydream-Nation- Sonic-Youth/dp/tracks/B000Q3648S/ref=dp_ tracks_all_1/026-7755895-9864443?ie=UTF8 &qid=1181688691&sr=8-6#disc_1
Comes out 2nd July 2007. I think disc 2 is live stuff. Wonder what the remastered sound will be like?
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kevin
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Post Number: 1637
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 11:25 am:   

Perfection? Its not often you see one 10 out of 10 review, never mind two on the same day

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/re cord_review/43525-daydream-nation-deluxe -edition

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/music/revie ws/42296/sonic-youth-daydream-nation/
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Rob Brookman
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Post Number: 668
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 02:29 pm:   

I'm not one to skimp on the superlatives for Sonic Youth - I think their output since "Sister" in '87 is one of the great runs in rock history - and I've still got a special place in my heart for "Daydream Nation." Sounds like I'm not alone.

Can't wait to see 'em show the kids how it's done when they play the whole album live at the Pitchfork Music Festival in July.
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Jerry Clark
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Post Number: 654
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 04:42 pm:   

As good as Daydream Nation is it should be remastered on vinyl only. Noise just doesn't work as well on CD, unless their going to make it LOUDER. The live disc is inessential imo.
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Rob Brookman
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Post Number: 669
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 04:52 pm:   

I agree, Jerry. I bought my copy - on CD - in 1988 and it sounds just fine. I've only bought two "remastered" CDs that I already owned in the format: "The Who Sell Out," because the original sounds like serious shite, and "Born to Run," because I'll reflexively drop cash for any product Springsteen puts on the shelves.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 659
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 05:12 pm:   

My comment from Feb. 1, Best Of 1988 topic:

10. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
A remastered edition please!!!!

Rob,

Right you are about SY's great run.
How many geat albums in a row do you think constitutes a run? Or should it be a decade at a minimum? Neil Young sure had a great run going from his eponymus debut in 1969 up until the early 80's.
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Rob Brookman
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Post Number: 671
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 05:52 pm:   

I dunno how I'd define a run, Michael, but Neil Young's a great example. Until his Geffen-era meltdown, the guy seemed incapable of making a mediocre record. I feel the same way about SY. Starting with "Sister," they haven't released a single CD (and I'm talking about the proper albums here, not the SYR stuff) I don't enjoy the hell out of. That's over 20 freakin' years. There are some I like more than others, sure, but if you threw me on a desert island and gave me "Murray Street" as opposed to "Daydream Nation" or "A Thousand Leaves" or "Experiemental Jet Set..." I'd be content.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 590
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   

For me, Sonic Youth's "run" was the stellar trio of "Evol," "Sister," and "Daydream Nation." After that I felt they were in a pretty bad slump up until "Washing Machine," which to me was vastly superior to the three albums that preceded it. But I can't comment on anything after that, as "Washing Machine" was about the point where I lost interest in them. I've heard good things about "Murray Street," though.
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kevin
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Post Number: 1640
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 06:23 pm:   

Murray St was a real return to form, I thought last years album was great too, although maybe SY purists would be put off by how accessible it sounded. Nobody rate Dirty then?
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Rob Brookman
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Post Number: 672
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 06:25 pm:   

I probably didn't do a good job conveying my meaning in the previous post, Jeff. "Murray Street" is - IMO - a little weaker than some of their other recent releases. I should have said "I'd STILL be content." I'd check out their latest, "Rather Ripped," if you want to reexamine late-period Youth. The songs are short, sharp and tuneful. "A Thousand Leaves" is my very favorite from the period after "Washing Machine," but it's also pretty dissonant. And I'm a complete SY acolyte, so maybe you shouldn't listen to me at all.
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 2025
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 07:03 pm:   

I'm with you, Rob. I find them, as a group, as artists, to be relentlessly fascinating and think they really have their hearts in the right place(s). That said, the two absolute highwater marks, for me, have been Ripped and Daydream Nation, bookends of a sort...

Speaking of which, I succumbed and bought the deluxe edition of DN. Haven't listened to the bonus disc yet, but the original disc sounds dreamily gorgeous. It works for me to buy it, because I'd long since lost the cassette I had of it. Excellent, sumptuous packaging, too, if that matters...
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1524
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 07:47 am:   

I loved Dirty at the time Kevin. I got it on double coloured vinyl in a record shop in Sydney that was near where I now work. (The record shop is now a convenience store, of course.)

I got the double CD version of it when it came out but only played it once or twice. Must play it again soon. So many CDs, so little time to play them.

Daydream Nation is one of my all time favourite albums (I really hope that statement is backed up by my all time top 20 which appears somewhere on this board!).
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 593
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 07:01 pm:   

Kevin, I liked Dirty at first when it came out, but after repeated listens it just failed to wow me. I thought it was just a bit too commercial, too slick, too compromised, for my liking. The noise didn't grate, and I felt like the songwriting itself just wasn't quite up to snuff. Butch Vig's production was just too clean, too streamlined and one-dimensional, in the conctext of Sonic Youth. Dirty seemed tainted by the whole grunge phenomenon and the swift corporate co-opting of said genre. It seemed like Sonic Youth, simply by dint of beign pals with Nirvanna, got caught up in the whole mess.

Having said that, I know a lot of who people seem to really enjoy Dirty.

I haven't listened to Sonic Youth in at least a decade, probably more. It was definitely a teenage/High School thing for me. I was really passionate about them back then.
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kevin
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Post Number: 1644
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 08:05 pm:   

Must admit I havent listened to Dirty in a good few years myself, but always enjoyed it back then. Maybe this is an album that ties in with my theory that most records never sound as great as they did when you first hear them(apart from the timeless classic albums), when you listen to them again for the first time in ages something seems to be lost or different, whether its you as a person thats changed, your feelings for the band are different because of how they turned out (eg REM/Stipe),the way the record might sound dated but was relevant at the time etc etc.
Dirty could maybe suffer from the whole Nirvana/grunge tag?

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