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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1454
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 09:02 am:   

Time for a new one.

The May edition of Uncut magazine published a top 10 Smiths songs as chosen by readers so I made an iPod mix out of it. And by jingo those readers know their Smiths; it's awesome.

There Is A Light That Never Goes Out was number 1 (I think - I'm not at my own computer right now).

Listening to the mix this morning through the iPod hi-fi made me wish I'd been into them in the 80s instead of ignoring them because I was so obsessed with The Jam and The Who. Oh well, my Smiths-loving friends were right and I was wrong.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1456
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   

That Uncut readers top 10. What do you Smiths afficionados think of this list? I'm lookng at you Jeff.

1 There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
2 How Soon Is Now
3 What Difference Does It Make
4 William, It Was Really Nothing
5 Panic
6 Rubber Ring
7 I Know It's Over
8 Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
9 Asleep
10 This Charming Man
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Jerry Clark
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Post Number: 646
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 12:39 pm:   

You can do a top 30 of The Smiths just from the Rough Trade years & there'll be no baggage there.
I think you are being a little hard on yourself there Padraig, The Jam & The Who have that same spark. Trying to sort a top 10 is likely to give any fan a headache.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1457
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 12:46 pm:   

Oh I still love The Jam and The Who Jerry; and The Jam will always be my first love, but I just wish I'd been into The Smiths back in the day too. They played 10 miles from where I lived and some of my classmates went to the gig. I could have been there!
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1459
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 01:14 pm:   

Now listening to Time On Earth, the comeback Crowded House album. Kevin won't like it.
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kevin
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Post Number: 1597
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 02:26 pm:   

Padraig, that is not the 10 I would choose, although every song is brilliant. There are actually 4 b-sides in the list which shows how creative they were.

Mine for today (which would change tomorrow probably).

Well I Wonder
Still Ill
Back To The Old House
Ask
Please Please Please....
This Charming Man
The Queen Is Dead
Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
That Joke Isnt Funny Anymore
Girfriend In A Coma
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frank bascombe
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 09:43 pm:   

I love Reel Around The Fountain,Still Ill, Back to the Old House, Please Please Please,This Charming Man,There is a Light, How Soon is now,What Difference does it make, Girlfriend,Suffer Little Children
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joe
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 02:08 am:   

it's a decent list....my additions would be

suffer little children
paint a vulgar picture
still ill
please please please
handsome devil

i'd definitely lose rubber ring for a start
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 217
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 10:07 am:   

OI!!!!!!
Padraig!!!!!!!
How'd you get that new Crowdies album???!!!
PLease say the rest of the album isn't as bland as the first single..very disappointing! It seems as bland as the first 5 songs of Woodface!

Smiths songs...hmmmm
Too many to choose!!!
How about these 15.
William, it was really nothing
There is a light that never goes out
How soon is now?
Well I wonder
That joke isn't funny anymore
Bigmouth strikes again
Unloveable
Cemetry gates
Headmaster ritual
Back to the old house
Please, please, please let me get what I want
This charming man
Still ill (Hatful version by a whisker)
What difference does it make
Heaven knows I'm miserable now
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spence
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Post Number: 1534
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 11:30 am:   

Has to be a top 20 for me.
I adore and will (as MOZZER says) never sicken, never sicken from anyone of these timeless gems...

1. Russholme Ruffians.
2. This Charming Man
3. There is a light...
4. Reel around the fountain. (Peel session, though I like the piano on 1st album)
5. The Headmaster Ritual.
6. That joke isn't funny anymore.
7. Well I wonder.
8. Bigmouth strikes again.
9. Half a person.
10. Still ill (yes Hatful version, by a whisker!)
11. The queen is dead.
12. The boy with the thorn...
13. Some girls are bigger than others
14. These things take time (Bombs version).
15. Cemetry gates
16. Stop me if you think...
17. Last night I dreamt
18. Work is a 4 letter word.
19. Accept yourself.
20. William it was really nothing/Barbarism begins at the home.

Youcan smell the poverty on the first Smith album, by Strangeways you could smell the midas on the tremelo arm of Marr's anniversary Strat!
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spence
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Post Number: 1536
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 11:44 am:   

Cowboy Junkies - At the end of paths taken.

I really love this record. I thought they lost it years ago. Probably I lost interest due to little media exposure in the uK, but this album is a beauty.
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 1960
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Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 06:23 pm:   

Though MIM doesn't particularly blow my skirt up, I'm immune to the charms of the Smiths.

The tunes by them that rock my world the most are probably (in order of preference):

1) There Is a Light That Never Goes Out
2) Ask
3) Panic
4) Boy With the Thorn In His Side
5) William, It Was Really Nothing
6) Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
7) How Soon Is Now
8) Reel Around the Fountain
9) What Difference Does It Make
10) You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 1961
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Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 06:24 pm:   

er, that was meant to read "not immune"...arrggh, I need more coffee...
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1205
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 04:07 pm:   

The only Smiths thing I have is "Singles." I pulled it out one night over the weekend to see what it would do for me now. "There Is a Light" went straight into the iTunes library.

Yesterday while washing cars:
Apartments -- Apart. The best songs on this record hold up forever.
Pale Fountains -- From Across a Kitchen Table.
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spence
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Post Number: 1545
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 04:15 pm:   

Tom Verlaine - Songs and other things.

Playing it a year on, its greeat. Actually reminds me of what Malcolm Ross (Josef K) was doing in the mid 80's with his band Ape the Scientific. Sadly no official releases came of the sessions.
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spence
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Post Number: 1546
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 04:16 pm:   

Wilco - Sky Blue Sky.

Played around 30 times now. Just gets better. Its this year's Oceans Apart for lil ol me!
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 562
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 04:45 pm:   

If I had to compile a list of 10 Smiths songs, it would probably change from day to day, but today it might look something like this:

1. This Night Has Opened My Eyes
2. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
3. William it Was Really Nothing
4. A Rush and a Push and the Land is Ours
5. Headmaster Ritual
6. Shoplifters of the World
7. Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before
8. The Boy w/ The Thorn in His Side
9. Hand in Glove
10. Girl Afraid
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Hugh Nimmo
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 04:47 pm:   

Pulled out 'Dancing In The Dragon's Jaw; Humans; Inner City Front; The Trouble With Normal; Stealing Fire' by Bruce Cockburn on Friday in order to add them to my Creative Zen and spent most of the holiday weekend listening to them.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 622
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 05:19 pm:   

1. I Kicked A Boy
Wait, that was The Sundays pretending to be The Smiths now that I think about it.

I'll start again.

1. There Is a Light That Never Goes Out
2. Boy With the Thorn In His Side (The sole reason I bought Rank was for the live cut of this)
3. This Charming Man
4. How Soon Is Now
5. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
6. Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One
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joe
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 12:13 am:   

i always thought "you're not the only one i know" was the sundays knocking off the smiths....and might i add, doing a sublime job of it!

i also forgot "that joke isn't funny anymore" on my list.....
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 624
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 01:51 am:   

Joe,

Good call on "you're not the only one i know" Smiths knockoff by The Sundays.
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joe
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Post Number: 199
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 02:03 am:   

heh...cheers. pardon the gushing, but christ i love that song. as much as even my favouriteist smiths track....
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 465
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 05:41 am:   

Hugh, I'm a relative newbie to Cockburn: have heard his stuff here and there for years but never really picked up an album until now, and am having fun. I like the Dragon's Jaw a lot...also the "Anything Anytime Anywhere" comp.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1461
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 11:53 am:   

How Was Tomorrow by The Cash Brothers. A wonderful record. And I'm saying that on my first time playing it! (Though I did know two of the tracks from compilations).
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1463
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   

Steely Dan's Aja.

****** Shameless self-promotion time ******

I've finally updated my blog and posted the last seven of my Irish Times record reviews, including a monumental trashing of the awful Muse. http://www.myspace.com/padraigcollins

Now that my IT album reviews are all done I'll have to move onto some reviews I did for an Australian magazine. Needless to say I'll shamelessly plug it here when I do!
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 08:56 pm:   

Allen, I was introduced to Cockburn back in the 1970's by a Canadian who was living and working in Scotland at the time. I took to him right away and followed his career up until 1986 after which I lost interest in his releases. Now might be a good time to re-visit and re-evaluate some of his later albums.

'Dancing In The Dragon's Jaw' and the four albums which followed ( Humans; Inner City Front; The Trouble With Normal; Stealing Fire ) are thought by many to include some of his best work so there is a lot of good stuff out there if you are interested in adding to your collection.

I have enjoyed listening to his music again after a substantial gap and plan on downloading some of his earlier albums onto my Creative Zen as soon as I get a chance.

Currently listening to 'Some Lost Bliss' by Tex La Homa and 'Nine Times That Same Song' by Love Is All.
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 1392
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 11:36 pm:   

Currently listening a lot to "23" by Blonde Redhead, "The Reminder" by Feist, and "Frantic" by Bryan Ferry, which I ignored when it came out because everyone knows his solo albums are shit--but it isn't shit! It's actually quite good, two or three ho-hum covers aside. The best tracks are Roxy Music-worthy, which makes me hope the long-rumored comeback album really happens.

And I didn't do my Smiths top 10 yet, so here it is:

You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby
Half a Person
This Night Has Opened My Eyes
Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
This Charming Man
Panic
Is It Really So Strange?
William, It Was Really Nothing
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1465
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 12:33 am:   

Listening to Louder Than Bombs now. I always thought Sheila Take A Bow was a filthy song. I still do.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 12:51 am:   

Padraig, do you mean filthy good or filthy bad?

Kurt, which covers don't you like on "Frantic"? I think "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" is quite good.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1468
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 01:06 am:   

Just filthy in general Rob! Filthy like Let's Get It On! Not that I'm suggesting Stephen Patrick personally has designs on young Sheila!
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1469
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 01:15 am:   

Just listening to Golden Lights now and it has struck me that I've obviously never played this CD before - or at least not all the way through -because I've never even heard that song before. Not a great song! Who's the female voice? It just says in the sleevenotes that it was written by Twinkle.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 01:43 am:   

**** Shameless self-promotion time (again) ****

I've added another posting at http://www.myspace.com/padraigcollins
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joe
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 02:21 am:   

re: suede - a new morning
do you still think it's their best?

seriously....they're my favourite band ever and it pains me to say a bad word about them - but i thought it was bloody awful. yes i love bernard and no i don't think coming up was an abomination (actually i love it), but that last one was better best forgotten. check out the sound of mcalmont & butler vol 2 - i forgot it's actual name - instead.....
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 03:27 am:   

Padraig, "Golden Lights" was a modest UK hit for Lynn Annette Ripley who recorded in the mid-60s under the name Twinkle. Some of her records have an odd camp appeal but "not a good song" sums them up pretty nicely. Her father was a rich Tory alderman on the Greater London Council. Even better, she was discovered by one of The Bachelors who she dated when she was 14 (and he rather older). Since I haven't heard the Smiths version, I've no idea if Moz dredged her up to accompany him (probably). Since you like it so much, I'll send you the original.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 04:46 am:   

Padraig, the backing vocals on "Golden Lights" were done by Kirsty MacColl. And I agree, it's definitely not a great song. Far from it. It remains an object of ridicule even to the most devoted Smiths obsessives.

I read that save for Morrissey, the band was pretty unenthusiastic about doing this cover, and drummer Mike Joyce couldn't even muster up enough enthusiasm to even play on it (there's a drum machine instead).

"Golden Lights" is the only song I ever felt compelled to skip when listening to "Louder than Bombs."
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 08:47 am:   

Thanks for the info fellas.
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abigail law
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 11:14 am:   

william
queen is dead
what she said
charming man
still ill (live version)
well i wonder
last night i dreamt
half a person
i know it's over
some girls are bigger
please please please
rubber ring
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XY765
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Post Number: 244
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 11:53 am:   

this could change weekly but here goes...

What Difference Does It Make?
Paint A Vulgar Picture
Reel Around the Fountain
You Just Haven't Earned It Yet baby
Headmaster Ritual
The Hand That Rocks The Cradle
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
I Won't Share You
I Started Something
Still Ill

I have the Sandie Shaw & Smiths Hand In Glove 12", it's also got her singing I Don't Owe You Anything & Jeane.

And the New York 12" Remix of This Charming Man which is atrocious but nice to have all the same, nice cover. I was a bit of a Smiths nut in my youth and have about 15 of their 12"s, obviously they all turned up on other records except Jeane and Wonderful Woman.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 05:33 pm:   

Rob, backing up to your Bryan Ferry question: "Goin' Down" is kind of a nothing song, and the faux-rootsy "Goodnight Irene" is just a song I'm sick of in any form. But I like the Dylan covers, especially "Baby Blue," which is pretty much always a winner when covered (Echo and the Bunnymen and even Hole do great versions of it). And a lot of critics slammed "Don't Think Twice," but I like Ferry's take on it.

"Hiroshima," "Cruel," "San Simeon," and "Goddess of Love" especially make me very eager for the Roxy reunion album as they're all lyrically much more interesting than anything on "Flesh + Blood" or "Avalon." So he can still write songs when he puts his mind to it. As long as he doesn't sing about fox hunting, I can ignore his bad politics and just enjoy the music.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 06:12 pm:   

Agreed, Kurt. I hope that Roxy record happens, too. Although I do like some of Ferry's solo records. While I recognize its shortcomings, "Boys and Girls" will forever be fondly linked with a pretty little co-ed I met in sophmore-year French class. Hyperromantic, sure, but we're talking about 19-year-olds in French 201.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 09:11 pm:   

Last night's listen:
Wilco -- A Ghost is Born
Caroline Trettine -- Ten Light Years
Triffids -- In the Pines
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spence
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 09:13 pm:   

You have great taste Randy!

i been listening to the noises that surround everyday life here in Birmingham. Mytwins laughing and grunting, trains, planes, cars vans, birds, a real treat, we are lucky to have vast greenery inour back yard.

All in all, its a bit like a sound effects album.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   

Golden Lights by Twinkle. I prefer it to the Smiths' version! Thanks Randy.

Then, because it follows in iTunes, Can I Change My Mind and Turn Back The Hands Of Time by Tyrone Davis.

Next, back to In Your Bright Ray.
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spence
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 01:28 pm:   

Javiera Mena - various pop songs by this laid back songstress fom Chile.

Wilco - Sky Blue Sky Era.

Thanks XY for the millions of Wilco you have painstakingly put together for me, you are very kind person, thank you.
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XY765
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 02:25 pm:   

No problem Spence hope you enjoy them. Haven't listened to the Sky Blue Sky Era one yet, will do over the weekend especially the 2 extra songs. Haven't listened to much of the covers discs either, though I did play Tweedy's solo acoustic versions of Blondie's Dreaming and the Beatles I'm Only Sleeping and both are great.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   

Hey, anyone here (I'm looking in your direction, LK) heard the new LW III? I didn't even know he had something out. I'll buy it regardless but I'm curious.

The tunes featured here sound great:

http://www.lwiii.com/downloads.php?secti on=video
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 04:25 pm:   

I see that Loudon's new album are "songs for and inspired by" the new Judd Apatow comedy "Knocked Up," which sounds fantastic. Loudon was terrific as a cast member on the short-lived Apatow TV series "Undeclared." The subject matter of the new movie (an ambitious woman and a slacker dude dealing with an unplanned pregnancy after a one-night stand) seems like perfect LWIII fodder.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 04:48 pm:   

iTunes stream of consciousness right now while responding to mail.

I started with the Smiths' "Rusholme Ruffians" (thanks Spence!) and a bunch of other Spence highlights on the Smiths and now iTunes has moved on to Son Volt, currently at "Tear Stained Eye."
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 04:50 pm:   

Yes, I am, perhaps not too surprisingly, on top of that one. It's a bit of a collaboration with the fantastic Joe Henry, who's great on his own and completely worth checking out. Joe has been moonlighting as a producer for a lot of the old soul greats, like Solomon Burke, and also happens to be a big Loudie fan, so it's a fairly logical pairing. Most of the impetus is from LWIII - it SOUNDS like a Loudon album - but, they wrote some of the songs together, and composed some of the incidental music, as well. There's a superb cover by Loudon of Peter Blegvad's (another great songwriter - there is simply too much great music on the planet) "Daughter" and a reprise of "Lullaby". It'd be nice if there were more new Loudie songs, but some of what's on it seems about as good - incisive and moving- as anything he's done. Stuff like "Grey in L.A.", about how on those rare overcast days, it really suits the character of the city better. I love it because I can relate - even here in OC, I sometimes think it's just too f-ing sunny, too much of the time...

Can't wait to see the movie. It looks like it has enough dumb, laddish humor to please me, and enough girlie stuff to please my girlfriend, so it'll be one of those rare movies we can agree on. Usually, I like more blood and guts kinda stuff than she's in to...

Judd Apatow, the writer/director, who got his start on the Larry Sanders show, has a big hero worship thing going on with Loudon, and has cast him in a lot of his stuff (Loudie has also kept the acting iron in the fire lo these many years), including, yep, "Undeclared" and the minister who performs the wedding at the end of "The 40 Year Old Virgin".
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 04:58 pm:   

That's funny. It's grey right now. It usually is for the first half of the day this time of year, where I am.

And, yeah, the sun can become tiresome when you've had three months of nothing else (like we're probably going to be getting quite soon).
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 05:10 pm:   

As LWIII puts it, "it reminds you that this town is so cruel".

It's grey here, too, RA. June gloom, as they call it, though it's been going on all through May. And yeah, it's a good change of pace.

I just watched those vids, Rob. Great stuff indeed. That is, btw, Joe Henry, singing along with him. Loudon sure makes some interesting grimaces, doesn't he? He is the Gurnmeister.

I'm reminded, listening to "Grey in LA" of the kinds of things that make him such a great songwriter. Only he could put references to Laurie David and sigalerts in a song and make them work...
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 05:20 pm:   

Hold on there, LK, are you telling me "Daughter" isn't an LW III song? How can that be? It's uncanny how Loudo that sounds.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 05:31 pm:   

I am tellin you dat, brutha! Sounds like he coulda, huh? Same mix of humor and pathos. But yeah, it's by this crazy guy, Peter Blegvad.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 07:32 pm:   

These folks sure like the new LWIII album:

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/music/revie ws/41740/loudon-wainwright-iii-strange-w eirdos/
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XY765
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 01:00 am:   

Today and in this order:

Wilco - Sky Blue Sky
Jimmy Cliff - Anthology
The Smiths - The World Won't Listen
The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow
The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
The Smiths - Meat Is Murder
Beck - The Information
Dean and Britta - Back Numbers
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 01:54 am:   

Linton Kwesi Johnson - entire discography

The Byrds - There is a Season (box set)

The Very Best of J.J. Cale
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 05:30 am:   

A Clash mix as suggested by the NME. I really like when magazines do this for artists I like but am not hugely clued in on (see also above the Smiths mix courtesy of Uncut).

1 The Magnificent Seven
2 London's Burning
3 London Calling
4 Complete Control
5 Hateful
6 Clash City Rockers
7 Death Or Glory
8 White Riot
9 Rock The Casbah
10 1977
11 This Is Radio Clash
12 (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
13 The Guns Of Brixton
14 Police & Thieves
15 Ivan Meets G.I. Joe
16 Bankrobber
17 Straight to Hell
18 Washington Bullets
19 Train In Vain
20 Lost In The Supermarket
21 The Street Parade
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   

That's as good a comp as I'd come up with, Padraig, although, to me, Clash best-ofs are a bit like, say, "Hot Rocks" or Beatles' greatest hits packages or, dare I say it, "Bellavista Terrace" ("1978-1990" excepted for rarities and general excellentness). There's a "what's the point?" aspect to to the whole thing. The records they're culled from are so freakin' great, why recontextualize 'em? Singles artists or hit-and-miss bands need best-ofs, great album artists don't. Anyone who'd get off on the music in the above list is exactly the kind of person who doesn't need it.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 03:50 pm:   

For me putting familiar songs in a new context reveals new aspects of them.

Last night I pulled out Mr. Forster's "Warm Nights." This is his most peculiar album. I've always loved about half of it ("Loneliness," "Snakeskin Lady," "Crying Love," the title song, the incredibly angry "On a Street Corner," and "I'll Jump") but I'd love to know what it was that he was reaching for here. And I suspect that it would have been better if he'd recorded it in Brisbane with Adele and Glenn.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 04:07 pm:   

I completely agree, Randy. I've been on a bit of Forster kick lately and I've played "Warm Nights" several times in the last few weeks. I think it's flawed, although it has some great tunes on it. For starters, I hate the production (Edwyn Collins name value notwithstanding) and the version of "Rock and Roll Friend" almost makes me hit eject everytime it's on. I think Christgau underrates Forster's solo albums in general, but his description of "Warm Nights" as "songs too good for the help" exactly sums up my opinion of it.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 04:11 pm:   

Oh, and Randy, I guess I should say my Clash post was mainly written thinking of someone who hadn't heard the band before or didn't know them beyond what's on the radio. Personally, I'm a chronic recontextualier. The shuffle feature on the iPod is one of my favorite inventions!
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 05:00 pm:   

"Songs too good for the help." That's pretty funny.

I love the shuffle feature. It's almost the only way I listen to the iPod. But I AM still hoping for an effective volume leveler.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 10:00 pm:   

I have five 1950's Bud Powell Blue Note albums on cd set on random play this afternoon, "The Amazing Bud Powell, Volume One, Two and Three", "Time Waits" and "The Scene Changes".
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   

Elliott Smith's first cd of 'New moon'... All the time since one week, it's wonderful. I'm nearly sure now that this man came from another planet.

And right now the new Suzanne Vega, a long awaited record with no surprise nor disappointment.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 08:41 am:   

The Jesus & Mary Chain - Barbed Wire Kisses. A classic of the b-sides and rarities genre.
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XY765
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Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 11:53 am:   

Well said Padriag, that nice-price record still sounds great, especially their first few singles on Side 2.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 02:34 am:   

Seam - The Pace Is Glacial. Great, late 90s US indie rock.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 06:40 am:   

The Notorious Byrd Brothers

IMO the very best album to meet the challenge thrown up by Sgt. Pepper's...and I'd rather listen to it than Pepper anyday.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 12:41 pm:   

Great one, Allen. I discovered TNBB in college, having never even heard it mentioned among the Byrds' great records. I remember putting it on and thinking, "What the hell? This might be their best album!" Of course, it turns out I was far from the first person to think that, but at the time it was definitely a revelation.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 04:32 pm:   

I loved "Notorious" from the get-go for its frank psychedelia, entirely unaware of the meaning of the horse's butt in the cover photo. My brother, the big Byrds fan, found it disappointing.

Way back when, "Notorious" had the nearly fatal disadvantage of no hit single. "Lady Friend" didn't happen and neither did the ravishing "Goin' Back." "Younger Than Yesterday" had "My Back Pages" (and "Rock n Roll Star" of course) and "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" had "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere." (Hmmm, a pattern eh?). And the change with "Sweetheart" was so vivid that "Notorious" was suddenly rendered obsolete. At the time, it was thought of as the last gasp of the original group.

The subtlety of "Notorious" also had a really tough time being heard over the breathtaking youthful brilliance of "Buffalo Springfield Again," IMO the greatest achievement of that generation of California musicians (even if I don't want to hear what most of them did later on) and a formidable challenger in Allen's sweepstakes.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 05:18 pm:   

Allen and Randy,

Rather than listening to "Pepper", give me "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" anyday. Even though it was being recorded at Abbey Road at the same time as "Pepper" (Jan. of 1967), "Piper" was released by EMI over two months later in August of 1967. I'm not sure it qualifies as being a follow-up though due to the time of the recording.

Rob,
I find it hard to name my favorite Byrds album, the first six are all great and even the ones after "Sweetheart" have their moments. I miss Gene not being on any of them after "Turn, Turn, Turn", but without Gene around Chris's talents blossomed more. Tough call.

Randy,

I really need to get "Buffalo Springfield Again". Without it, "Forever Changes", one of the Byrds albums, The Doors eponymus debut, "Surralastic Pillow" or "Volunteers" would be up for my top pick for the best California group album of the 1960's. If you stretch it out to 1970, then "American Beauty" would also be under consideration by me.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 06:27 pm:   

Formidable indeed, Randy...I think that'd be my runner-up.

But of course if we could somehow send a copy of the completed "Smile" back to Brian Wilson in '67, so he could just redo the vocals...well, but then you'd have to send someone back to make sure he stayed off the drugs long enough that he didn't start to twiddle with it...uhhh, never mind, stupid idea...
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Little Keith
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 07:26 pm:   

Hold Steady - Separation Sunday. Not, overall, as stellar an album as "Boys&Girls", but still mighty compelling shit . "Your Little Hoodrat Friend" is a great, great song that gives me that "let's ditch school, drink Annie Green Springs wine and take quaaludes" feeling.

Richard Thompson - Sweet Warrior. Seems a bit of a return to form. Lots of rude electric guitar in evidence, not too much milkmaid fondling.

Pogues - Hell's Ditch.

Tom Waits - Live in Akron (bootleg)

Robbie Fulks - Revenge! His version of Cher's "Believe" has to, well, be heard to be believed.
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spence
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 08:10 pm:   

The Residents - Commercial Album
Midnight Cowboy - Soundtrack
Simple Minds - Sparkle in the rain
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 09:43 pm:   

Eternal Triangle - Touch and Let Go
The Concubines - rough mixes
Kissing the Pink - Naked
Bow Wow Wow - See Jungle.......
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spence
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 09:32 am:   

Wow! the Concubines rough mixes jeff! Gimme gimme gimme!

You havin an 80's time of it old pal, Kissing the pink, now that's cryptic! They are/were quite similar to Arcade Fire, esp that song.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 01:54 pm:   

Finally, finally bought two of the Zevon reissues, "Stand in the Fire" and "The Envoy." Since neither of them have ever been on CD, I haven't heard them in years. First impressions:

1. The remastering jobs are excellent on both. "The Envoy" sounds brighter, "SITF" sounds bigger.

2. The tunes on "The Envoy" are much stronger than I remember.

3. The bonus tracks on "SITF" really are a bonus; instead of serving as curiosities or fodder for completists, they serve as the equivalent of a great encore you accidentally missed, and they make one of the great live albums even greater.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 03:10 pm:   

I like Younger than Yesterday WAY better than Notorious, although the added tracks (Triad and Bound to Fall) are SENSATIONAL!!!!!!
Still have a soft spot for Pepper...it was 40 years ago today...!!!!!
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spence
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 03:23 pm:   

Friends Again - Trapped and Unwrapped.

Like Yound Americans era Bowie with a touch of GoBees or Cosmic Rough Riders, very Summery.
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 03:50 pm:   

Spence, I saw them perform live at an open air concert in East Kilbride (?) in the early 1980's and thought they had great potential. However, I got the feeling even then that the two songwriters ( Thompson and Grant ) were pulling in different directions so it came as no surprise when the group disbanded shortly after the release of their debut album.

Currently listening to 'Century Spring' and 'Use Your Voice' by Mason Jennings.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 04:26 pm:   

I love all of "Younger Than Yesterday" with one major exception: "Mind Gardens," one of the most unlistenable songs of all time. It almost serves to torpedo the whole album for me, especially since the running time of the CD is so short. Was McGuinn sleeping in the control room when Crosby barfed that one up?
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 04:43 pm:   

McGuinn hated "Mind Gardens" from the interviews I read. It might have been the starting point to Crosby being kicked out of the group. However Crosby really came up with a great one in "Renaissance Fair".
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spence
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 06:39 pm:   

Arab Strap - Monday at the hug and pint
The Blue Aeroplanes - Weird Shit
Wilco - Summerteeth
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 07:00 pm:   

Michael, "Renaissance Fair" is one of my very favorite Byrds songs.

Spence - The 80s is where I reside a good 3/4 of the time, musically. I love Kissing the Pink, but I've never heard Arcade Fire, so I don't know the one song you speak of. Also, Concubines mixes should be finished by the end of June - only a 6 month delay from when we anticipated their completion! Geez, that's depressing. But I blame the day jobs, plus the erratic and uncompromising schedules of my band mates.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 07:01 pm:   

The Passage - For All and None

I love this band! Very underrated, and I'm not sure why.
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spence
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 09:48 pm:   

Jeff you are the 80's man! And the cool part of the 80's too you el records lover!!

Talking of cool parts of the 80's, I'm working with Stephen Harrison soon on some recordings http://www.myspace.com/stephenhowardharr ison
He used to be on Crepescule, he was in a great new wave group called Metropak around Josefk period and he's worked with Alan Rankine amongst others, he formed Heyday with the Josef K rhythm section too. Should be interesting.

You may have heard Sad and Blue off a Crep comp.

The Passage were great. Dick Witts was it? He used topresent a rock TV programme I think.

The Kissingf the pink track that I think IMHO resembles Arcade Fire is Last Film.

Looking forward to The Concubines. Oops sorry.

Glenn Kotche - Mobile
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Little Keith
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 01:33 am:   

Lavender Diamond - Imagine Our Love
Todd Snider - Peace, Love and Anarchy
Gina Villalobos - Rock N Roll Pony
Dean Martin - Cha Cha Amour
The Mekons - Heaven and Hell
Thurston Moore - Psychic Hearts
Rig Rock Jukebox - (Diesel Only Comp)
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 01:52 am:   

The Lilac Time. Many thanks to Spence for tipping me off to this. I also have their second and third albums. We'll see if they measure up to the gorgeous first. Which is now going to get a second listen because I'm at home and I can crank it up.

I totally forgot that Crosby co-wrote "Renaissance Fair." I usually think of "Everybody's Been Burned" as the only good song he ever did.

I have Kissing the Pink's "Naked" on vinyl. Because of that I haven't heard it in at least 10 years. I wonder what I'd think? Well, it's Lilac Time for now . . . .
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 03:41 am:   

Ok, I'm up to track 8 on the second album "Paradise Circus," the commercially unsuccessful single "The Girl Who Waves at Trains." Glorious. It's totally living up to the first album.

Either this group is one that appeals fantastically right away and then wears out fast OR it's a well-loaded hypodermic needle for one Randy Adams.
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joe
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 07:19 am:   

i'm listening to colourbox's self-titled...the lp, rather than the ep. kinda dated, but still out of this world.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 02:50 pm:   

Randy Newman - Good Old Boys
DJ Shadow - The Private Press
Television - Live at the Old Waldorf
Sonny Rollins - This Is What I Do
Warren Zevon - The Envoy
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 04:28 pm:   

Randy, I used to love the Lilac Time. The first album is a classic, however when I played the latter albums recently I found them patchy at best. Paradise Circus is one of the better ones though.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 04:57 pm:   

Stephen "Tin Tin" Duffy's group, right? I vaguely remember them. He was, like, the Pete Best of Duran Duran and went on to write songs with Andy Partridge (?), maybe...

Randy, you are a man of many surprises. I'd never in a million years thunk that that'd be your kind of thing.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 05:38 pm:   

I'm going to have to dig up that first Lilac Time album. I remember it being a bit too cute and folksy for my tastes, and a little didactic, but I haven't heard it in ages.
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spence
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 09:36 pm:   

Levitation - need for not. In particular the song 'Smile'
Stephen Harrison - Chips for Supper
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 09:53 pm:   

Kevin, your warning concering their later records is noted. I still haven't heard the third one yet (which IS produced by Andy Partridge). I have already identified their (thankfully infrequent) inclination to do Britpop bluebeat as something to exercise the "skip" button.

I mentioned to Spence that if I'd known about Duffy's connection to Duran Duran I would have had a hard time giving it a listen. But the fact is that the best work (and the first album has a lot of it) conjures up all sorts of beloved elements from 60s records, without ever slavishly winky-winky referencing them. For example, Jeff, the beautiful "Black Velvet" is suggestive of Left Banke's "Sing Little Bird Sing." "Return to Yesterday" is reminiscent of some of the better mid-60s British pop folk (say, David & Jonathan's "Lovers of the World Unite" or some of the better Carter/Lewis things with and without the Ivy League). Others hit a nerve not too far away from that reserved for my beloved Hollies (and it is important to know that the Hollies' best work seldom showed up on the a-side of a single), ironically generally when Duffy says he was trying to emulate C,S,N & Y--thank god he missed his mark!

The second album was reissued with a whole slew of almost all good instrumentals. I'd actually recommend putting those tracks on a separate disc and listening to it on its own.

And, to some extent, the first Lilac Time album fits pretty nicely alongside the Michael Head & the Strands album, a record I recently picked up thanks to Jeff's tantalizing samples.

Will all of this prove too facile and turn into a yawn later? I can't credit myself with sufficient discernment to make that prediction. It'll be a little bit of a bummer if that's what happens.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 09:53 pm:   

John Foxx - Metamatic
Section 25 - From the Hip
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 02:57 am:   

Section 25, eh? I've never heard of 'em, but a friend from SA and I are going to see them here in Chicago in August. Will I have fun? He seems to thing they're worth seeing, and he has good taste, so what the hell.
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spence
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 11:47 am:   

S 25 were essentially Joy Division wannabees.

The group is run by 2 brothers, Larry and Vinny, The Cassidy's. They are the Cannon and Ball of post new wave! They are very funny guys, you can see them being interviewed in a great DVD on LTM (Factory rematers) called Shadowplayers. http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/shadow playersfilm.html

I like some bits of theirs, the stuff that found it onto Crepuscule compilations in the 80's.

Interesting band,

Is interesting a good word? probably not!

Good band, - there!
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   

Icky Thump. Liking it a lot too.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 01:11 pm:   

Favourite Worst Nightmare. Liking this a lot too.

Another plug for myself: My latest blog posting is a Cult hero article on the very great Alejandro Escovedo. www.myspace.com/padraigcollins
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 04:34 pm:   

Yeah Spence basically has it right about Section 25. They started off as Joy Division wannabes, though I think some credit for that also goes to Martin Hannett, who produced their first record in the same way he produced everyone else (ie - kinda like Joy Division). At any rate, Section 25 were pretty bleak, minimalist and dour on their first 2 albums.

But by '83-'84, they'd gone more synth pop. The resulting album from this phase, "From the Hip," (produced by Bernard Sumner, not surprisingly) shows Section 25 playing with catchy pop hooks and soothing, atmospheric sheets of synths. Basically, they'd gone all lush and pretty, but still retained just enough of their artsy minimalist streak to keep them firmly out of the mainstream. "From the Hip" is the only album of theirs of any lasting importance. The single, "Looking from a Hilltop" was apparently a dance club hit in NY back then. By and large, there was nothing earth-shattering about them at all, but "From the Hip" has been a longtime favorite record of mine.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 05:13 pm:   

New Moon - Elliott Smith. Remarkable and beautiful. Truly one of the best posthumous releases I've ever heard.

Kev, ain't you a fan of the song, "13"? There's a gorgeous version of it by Elliott here.
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 05:54 pm:   

Simple Minds - Sparkle in the rain.

Its got balls, I am 'mr bombastic' at the moment, telly fantastic!!

oh, I'm on a bit of a trip around the days of my youth too...
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kevin
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 06:27 pm:   

Yes LK, I have New Moon. Agree with you about the quality, but as with most of this type of record release, most of the real gems are on disc 1.

13 is the one record that is guaranteed to bring a lump to my throat and the hint of a tear to my eye.
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joe
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 12:45 am:   

spence - the kick inside of me is insane! that album is ridiculously good. it got my jocknroll pick for #1 anyway...
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frank bascombe
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 02:30 pm:   

I'm starting to go through one of those phases where nothing but the Go-betweens will do, so an ipod set go-betweens on random has thrown up some great tracks.
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 03:40 pm:   

Luna - Best of Luna. Finally got this, this is how this band should be heard I reckon. For me their albums were just not strong enough from start to finish - this is.

Digitalism - Idealism. The German Daft Punk apparently, and I can see where the comparisons come from. There definately seems to be an upsurge in bands combining electro/dance music with rock music (probably kickstarted by LCD Soundsystem, although there might be an argument it was Depeche Mode!!) and this is the latest, although I would say this was weighted approx 70/30 in favour of electro. Its fantastic.

Rock On - Greatest Hits from The Observer Label. Cracking complialtion of mid 70s reggae by the likes of Gregory Isaacs, Dennis Brown, Mighty Diamonds, The Heptones etc.

That reminds me LK, did you ever go on that reggae buying splurge recently?

Has anybody heard the new White Stripes or Ryan Adams records, both supposed to be returns to form?
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 04:18 pm:   

Hmm, Kevin, your warning about Luna is noted. I only have "Best of" and it's made me want to go out and buy the individual albums. But perhaps not.

Handsome Family - "Your Great Journey" followed by "Tesla's Hotel Room." I had totally forgotten to load "Last Days of Wonder" into iTunes.

I'm now listening to the instrumental album appended onto Lilac Time's "Paradise Circus."
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 04:37 pm:   

Randy, as someone who's bought all the original albums eho ended up trading several of them back, I'd say sticking with the "best of" is your best bet. Kevin's right--none of the studio albums are essential. "Penthouse" is probably the one to get if you feel you need more Luna, though.

A return to form for Ryan Adams? What form would that be? Which of his false, insincere personas is he returning to?
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 04:39 pm:   

"eho"? Is that some kind of online prostitute? Try "but." Where's that edit feature we've been asking for?
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 04:41 pm:   

Rnady, with all due respect to the Kev, don't miss out on "Penthouse." It's pretty widely considered their best, and it's easily one of my top 10 albums of the '90s. I say that as someone who thinks, as Kevin does, that a lot of their output is spotty.

Plus, I back it with a money-back guarantee.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 04:45 pm:   

Rob, do you make the same offer with "The Days of Our Nights"?
I'd like my money back for that one.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 04:47 pm:   

And, if you don't like this one, just wait another month, for his next "return to form".

I am signing on to the prevailing wisdom on this thread about Luna, Randy, having gone through the same cycle Kurt describes. I'm not surprised you like it, though. It's the perfect music for driving around L.A. - slick, pretty and decadent...

Kevin, never got around to the reggae splurge. It'll probably be awhile since I just blew my discretionary wad on DVDs (another obsession) - I had to get the latest Seinfeld Season (or as you guys'd call it, "series") and the latest season out of "Rescue Me", a great, engrossing show about a firefighter, starring everybody's favorite angry Irishman, Denis Leary. Do you all get that?
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 04:51 pm:   

First off, what's Rnady? Jeez. Sorry, Randy. (And I write for a living.)

Second, hell, no, Kurt (or Ktur, if my typing is up to form), the same terms do not apply to "The Days of Our Nights." You can, however, apply to the Disappointing Album Purchase Financial Recovery Center. Ask for one "Little Keith."
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 05:09 pm:   

Naw man, nobody'd ever get a dime out of me for disappointing Luna purchases. I've been too vocal with my caveats...

However, there is a Disappointing Album Recovery Program. It's called trading them in. The return is not great, but it's so satisfying, and let's face it - how many things that you buy can you get even that small return on. Compare it to, whatever - cars, books, clothes, etc...

You really do get a feeling of giving an artist their just rewards, trading them in: "take that, Luna. Languish in the "L" bin in perpetuity, with Los Van Van and Lorie Line".
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 05:38 pm:   

I actually have a Los Van Van CD I haven't listened to in ages. I'll have to pull that out.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   

Sorry, dude, just pulled that out of the air. Please don't tell me you have a Lorie Line album....
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 06:20 pm:   

Who's Lorie Line? Ran a check on my "L" collection and she doesn't figure into it. I guess that's good, eh?
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 06:43 pm:   

Yeah, Ryan must be on about his 9th return to form album I suppose :-)
I was hoping he would return to Whiskeytown or Heartbreaker type form.
Actually, if he had just trimmed the 3 albums he released last year in to one album it would have been a cracker.

btw, Am I the only one who thinks that Gold (his work of genius allegedly) is patchy at best?
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Wolfgang Steinhardt
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 06:45 pm:   

Einstürzende Neubauten - Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T.
still a disturbing masterpiece, you can hear the echoes from the Berlin wall and the soviet army around the corner...
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 06:48 pm:   

That is good, dude. She makes particularly noxious New Age music, that has none of the hipness of Yanni (nor his big, bushy mustache) nor the soul of Enya...it's for timid souls who find the musical stylings of George Winston too rowdy and threatening...
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 12:13 am:   

Kevin, I have the White Stripes album (as I mentioned above if you had scrolled up a little!). Played it once, liked it a lot.

Randy, get all the Luna albums! Each one has some gems not on the best of. Also, the UK edition of the best of is different to the US edition, so Kevin is talking about different tracks anyway! You should be able to pick them up pretty cheap in Amoeba. Bewitched is my favourite, though it's not their best. Penthouse probably is their best.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 12:18 am:   

Listening to Buffalo Tom's Birdbrain for the first time in many, many years right now and it's awesome. First time I've ever heard it on CD as it happens. I always just played the cassette version before. I got the CD version in a second hand place in Melbourne last November (Pete Azzopardi of this parish was with me at the time) and added it to the unplayed pile in the kitchen. Lately I've taken to pulling out discs at random and playing them. It's working! Rarely do I put something back and think I'm not in the mood for it.

There are two bonus acoustic songs on the CD of Birdbrain. I like them too.
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Elizabeth Robinson
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 03:43 am:   

I recognized the name of Lorie Line - sanitized piano stylings in the department store. News anchor looks and makeup. Local 'Minnesota Nice' type pseudo talent, vamps like John Tesh of 'Entertainment Tonight' fame. Another such person to steer clear of - Connie Evingson. Twirpiest voice I've ever heard devoted to the genre of easy listening.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 04:36 am:   

Yeah, that's her. My best friend, who shall remain nameless (Andy) loves her. He also loves Huey Lewis. I mean, you know, his music. I'm not sure his affections extend beyond that, but I guess you never know...

Listening right now to "Amarcord: A Tribute to Nino Rota" and it's just phenomenal. I finally tracked this beauty down after looking for it a long time - it's, as they say, OOP. There's nothing about this guy's compositions I don't like - there's something so, forgive me the use of this word, "zesty" about them, they're just full of a certain, it seems to me, uniquely Italian lust for life, and they're beautifully rendered here by a stellar cast of jazz hipsters, including, Bill Frisell.
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kevin
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 05:30 am:   

Padraig/Randy - the Luna best of is a double in the UK, is it a double in the States?

Padraig , I listened to Velvet Roof by Buffalo Tom a couple of times recently - that guitar riff is a scorcher!

I never really got into Birdbrain at the time, I bet you I would probably like it now, preferred Let Me Come Over - saw them live a couple of times - a truly great live band. They have an album due for release, yet another band who have reformed to hopefully gain the success that eluded them first time.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 06:44 am:   

The "Best of Luna" I have is a single disc release on Rhino. 17 songs. Maybe I need the UK version.
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kevin
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 01:08 pm:   

Randy the release on Beggars Banquet (UK) is 35 tracks! Padraig was certainly right about both releases being different, must be understatement of the year!
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 01:59 pm:   

That explains why you're so fond of the Luna best-of you have, Kevin. The best-of here is really more an introduction, as opposed to a definitive statement. It's the kind of thing that almost demands you go out and check out the proper albums. I'd be interested to hear the UK version.
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XY765
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 07:55 pm:   

Yep Days Of Our Nights is a poor record, the best song Superfreaky Memories is on the Best Of anyway.

Pup Tent isn't great either. As Padraig says as well, Bewitched is by far my favourite though Penthouse is perceived as their best. Go for one of those I'd say.

And Luna Live is really good too..
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kevin
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 11:55 pm:   

After playing disc 1 of the Luna best of a good few times now, reckoned I better start on Disc 2. And guess what, its chock full of cover versions - so that explains why the US has 1 disc and we have a 2 disc!!
There is a fantastic version of Kraftwerks Neon Lights and a version of Wires Outdoor Miner, and incredibly a version of Sweet Child O Mine that takes the core of what was always a good song but strips away all that pathetic metal bombast.

1. Bonnie And Clyde (Fast)
2. Indian Summer
3. Ride Into The Sun
4. In The Flesh
5. Season Of The Witch
6. Jealous Guy
7. Neon Lights
8. Sweet Child O Mine
9. That's What You Always Say
10. Everybody's Talikn'
11. Outdoor Miner
12. No Regrets
13. La Poupee Qui Fait Non
14. Only Women Bleed
15. Dream Baby Dream
16. Thank You For Sending Me An Angel
17. Bonnie And Clyde (Slow)
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:43 am:   

Yeah, I was wondering why you were bigging up disc 2 Kevin! It's very good, but it's not songs from the original albums! Disc 1 is still quite different to the US version. I'm sure it's to do with getting the rights seeing as they were on several different labels.

You could order the UK two-disc set Randy (I got it pretty cheap from Amazon UK) or you could spend that money in Amoeba on Bewitched and Penthouse as both me and the mysterious XY765 have advised!
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 01:36 am:   

Listening to Word magazine's February edition disc. Some great stuff on it by artists I know such as The Decemberists, Field Music, Jarvis Cocker etc, but also some great stuff by unknowns (to me) such as L Pierre and Onetwo.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 04:38 am:   

I did go to Amoeba, but before reading your suggestion Padraig. I decided I'd wait to look for the UK "Best of Luna" and bought a pile of other things.

First, I bought "Sky Blue Sky." It sounded good on first listen but my brother called in the middle of it so I'll have to give it another proper listen. I do kind of see what Kevin was talking about with the "wibbly guitar solos" though.

I also got "Cassadaga." I'm seemingly the only one who thinks that "Digital Ash" is a major classic and found "Wide Awake" a bit less remarkable (and I still do). I'm looking forward to hearing this one.

And I got the new Keren Ann. Her records are a slow burn for me. I'm very much looking forward to this.

Ignoring my middle-aged back after having walked a mile and a half to get there (Randy's green campaign), I decided to rifle through the upper half of the alphabet in the cheapie section to see what I'd find. I got:
1. The Subliminals -- Crystal Chain EP I've played this one. It's Flying Nun but not nearly so pleasing as either the Chills or the Bats. Still, I doubt that I'll trade it back.
2. Spike Priggen -- Stars After Stars After Stars. Spence likes this guy so much I figured he was worth $2.99
3. Sparklejet -- Beyond the Beyond. Produced by Steve Albini and described by the little sticker as "All-American rock band," it's not promising BUT they come from my hometown (Fresno, CA) and that's certainly worth $2.99.
4. Smalltown Poets -- Third Verse. Good name for a band and it's on Ardent Records out of Memphis (think Big Star). I'm actually hoping this one will be good.
5. Twotone Farm -- Napa Valley Comes Unscrewed. Literally only bought because of the lovely jacket design, for $1.99.
6. Corrina Repp -- It's Only the Future. Also bought for $1.99 because of the lovely cover art and the fact that it's on a Portland, Oregon label. It's a long shot.

Off to listen . . . .
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 05:12 am:   

Ok, Smalltown Poets have a good band name but their music sounds like the stuff being piped at me when I eat at P.F. Chang's (corporate pseudo-Chinese restaurant usually located in or near semi-swanky shopping malls). They seem to have a real aversion to minor chords. This is perfect for my sister-in-law. Vin ordinaire. Definitely into the discard pile.

Let's see what the Fresnans produced by Steve Albini sound like . . . . Hmmm, ok much less bland than the Smalltown Poets. One guitar, bass and drums. Guitar normally played on the fat strings and probably also de-tuned. Basically grunge meets David Bowie with a less-than-wonderful vocalist, not my thing really. A seeming aversion to hooks. But it's not bland and there are cool photos from dilapidated Fresno, so this will be kept even if never heard again.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 03:05 am:   

Listening to a Johnny Cash & Bob Dylan bootleg of their 1969 CBS Studios Session. One Too Many Mornings is track 1 and it seems very appropriate for the post storm clean up in NSW. Another version of it is also track 2! Johnny takes the lead vocal on the second version. Prefer Bob's version, though I love them both.
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 04:39 pm:   

I've got that bootleg Padraig & found it disappointing. Obviously, expecting too much.

K-os - Joyful Rebellion
Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth
Soft Cell - Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret
Nick Cave - Abatoir Blues/Lyre Of The Orpheus
Small Faces - Ogden's Nut Gone Flake
Johnny Thunders & Patty Paladin - Copy Cats
John Fogerty - The Best Of
Joan As Policewoman - Real Life
Talking Heads - The Name Of This Band... Disc 1
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 04:56 pm:   

Loudon Wainwright - "Strange Weirdos"

Just got it but it seems like a typically strong collection from Loudo. He's been so consistent over the years it always take me a while to figure out whether a new LWIII record is very good or maybe kinda great. He operates in such a narrow range it's hard to tell when he hits one out of the park.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 05:13 pm:   

It might be one of his best, Rob. I know what you mean - is it another simply great record, or did he REALLY hit this one outta the park? Time will tell, I guess.

Speaking of Loudie, and we were, they've finally released the remaining two records of his that were out of print on CD: T-Shirt and Final Exam.
I think, with those two, I now have everything by him on CD. They are, typically, fine discs, particularly T-Shirt, which includes that remarkable song "Just Like President Thieu", featuring what seems to be a classic LWIII theme: escaping some nasty environment by the skin of his teeth. He always knows when it's "high time to hightail it" - a useful survival skill.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 05:19 pm:   

Wow, LK, I consider myself a huge Loudo fan - I've seen him live more than any other performer, I think - but still I don't own all his CDs. His 80s output is the big hole in the collection, I guess. Even so, I have about 12 or 13 CDs. I'd be curious to know what your faves are.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 05:34 pm:   

Cocteau Twins. I just picked up The Pink Opaque and also VictoriaLand.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 05:46 pm:   

I SAY I have all his CDs, but honestly, I'm not sure - I'll have to check. But, I don't think he has too many more than 13...

Loudo is like the GBs, in that whatever disc I'm listening to at the moment is my favorite. But still, I do have faves I guess - mostly centered around his more recent output. The one disc of his I think is truly a remarkable achievement is "History" - impossibly moving, start to finish. I'm not sure he's rendered human emotion with such pinpoint accuracy on any other albums. Even the stuff I don't relate to specifically still resonates with me and my life, if you know what I mean. The two that came after, "Grown Man" (the title song of which really pisses off my girlfriend - she thinks it's an apologia for cheating) and "Little Ship" are incredible, too, and make up a trilogy, of sorts, I guess.

If you're that big a fan, you owe it to yourself to get the T-Shirt/Final Exam set (it's packaged as a double disc set and is available through Amazon UK)...if nothing else, for Loudo's great anthem, "Watch Me Rock, I'm Over Thirty".

What are your faves, Brotha Rob?
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 05:57 pm:   

I guess my all-time favorite is probably an album that could be considered a best-of - the live "Career Moves." It's the album I always recommend to people who are new to him. The song selection is choice and the performance is excellent.

After that - geez, like you say, LK, it's tough to pick. I love "Unrequited" and "Attempted Mustache" and I think "Grown Man" is a recent-period highlight. I also like "Here Come the Choppers" from a couple years ago. Really, though - and I know this is a cop out - there's not a single record he's made that I don't enjoy mightily. I don't know if there's another artist I could say that about. But, and not to take anything away from Loudo, he does work in a narrower range than a lot of artists I like. There's no "Disco Loudon" or "Electronica Loudon" or "Fuzz Guitar Loudon." Just unbelievably pithy songs, well performed.

I'll pick up "T-Shirt/Final Exam," LK. Nice to know there's a few more to explore...
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Little Keith
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 06:30 pm:   

The between song patter on "Career Moves" alone is worth the price of admission.

I hope that some of the success of "Knocked Up" rubs off on Loudie. It's a huge hit; maybe some of those moviegoers will be inspired to pick up the soundtrack. Also, maybe that will give rise to a big tour and I can finally see him live, which I've never had the good luck to do before. He's one of the few amongst my faves that I've never managed to catch in concert. Seen the GBs (once), Dylan, Springsteen, Costello, Thompson, Sinatra, Van Morrison, Nick Lowe, Squeeze, Al Green, Joni Mitchell, Wilco and Amy Rigby, but never ole Loudo!
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 06:49 pm:   

I can't believe that, LK. I'd say he plays Chicago at least once or twice a year. He must have a decent audience here. I've seen him maybe 10 or 12 times, once playing with the McGarrigles, which was interesting to say the least and once opening up for Richard Thompson, which was wonderful. He's an amazing live performer. Go, man, go.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 03:56 am:   

That's right LK...and don't forget to take your girlfriend, so Loudon can look her straight in the eye from the stage as he sings "Motel Blues."

Devo - "Pioneers Who Got Scalped: The Anthology"

Fun fun fun, with a full-bodied crunchiness...the first disc doesn't let up once. It's hard to believe the number of critics who at the time thought these guys were the end of music. My expectations for the second disc aren't that high, but I might be surprised.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 04:49 am:   

Corrina Repp -- It's Only the Future. Finally, one of my "what the hell--it looks pretty" purchases at Amoeba clicked. The songs are notional and the backings likewise but somehow the whole works quite well. And the 10 song rule is scrupulously observed.

Spike Priggen -- Stars After Stars After Stars. This is on right now. This is also in a quite different league than the relative clunkers from the other night. And--hey!--he covers a song from the Zombies' first album. You can't go wrong with that.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 05:27 am:   

And for information's sake, Loudo's tally is 17 1/2 studio albums and 3 1/2 live ones (the two halves being sides one and two of "Unrequited.")
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 05:30 am:   

Ah! This Spike Priggen album is all covers! 'Splains the title. Alex Chilton's "Nighttime" finally got me to pull out the insert and make that discovery. The songs are by Kerry Miller, Ward Dotson, Colin Blunstone, Jenifer Jackson, Stephen Duffy, Nikki Sudden, Tracy Thorn, Colvin/Cummings/Hyman, Alex Chilton, he covers Alice Cooper's "I'm Eighteen," Green Gartside.
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joe
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 06:05 am:   

randy....that looks like an amazing collection of covers....
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:43 am:   

LK, I hope you do get to see Loudon sometime soon. I saw him in Dublin a few years ago and it was a rare pleasure. He talked about having a discussion with Rufus where he told his son that his (Rufus') first album advance was more than he had ever got. Rufus seemingly wasn't best pleased with that sort of discussion.
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kevin
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 12:10 pm:   

Randy, what are the Scritti Politti(aka Green Gartside) and Lilac Time (aka Stephen Duffy) songs that he covers?
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David Gagen
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 12:54 pm:   

The Man Who Wouldn't Cry is great Louden song. Covered by Johnny Cash on American recordings series. Saw Louden here in Brisvegas when he supported Richard Thpmpson a few years back. My brother drove 6 hours to see him, met him backstage, got his autograph and then left before RT came on!! Said he'd never heard of him and besides he had to drive 6 hours back home as he had to work next day. Thats one committed fan, my brother!
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 04:13 pm:   

I only recognize about half the writers' names and since I don't have any Scritti Politti, I didn't know that's who Gartside represents. The Gartside song is "A Slow Soul." The Duffy song must be from later Lilac Time because I don't have it: it's "Big Store."

This disc has the most outrageous hidden bonus track feature I've ever come across. First there's the obligatory long silence. Then there's a recording of someone talking about a hair salon and THEN there's a must-be-genuine tape of a guy pitching his entertainment promotion company to "the label industry" which meanders on and on and on, sort of gradually losing steam as it goes. But he has a "P.S." to his recorded pitch. The "P.S." is literally five minutes long. THEN Priggen does a great cover of a Furor song (no, I don't know them; I googled what I guessed was the title) and yet another song which I cannot identify. Mr. Priggen has an evil sense of humor. And it's a good album.

David, your brother's dedication LWIII is fantastic. It's probably still a great memory for him.
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 04:31 pm:   

Iggy & The Stooges - Raw Power & I'm Sick Of You
Spring Hill Fair & Bonus disc
Stephen Jones - Almost Cured Of Sadness
Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
The Bravery - The Sun & The Moon
David Bowie - Young Americans - Remaster + Extras
Doves - Lost Sides - Remixes
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Little Keith
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 04:51 pm:   

David, that IS a great LWIII story. LW should write a song about it.

Thanks for the encouragement, Padraig. I'll have to get up off my arse and manage to see him. When I was living in the south, he never seemed to make it down there. Hmm, I wonder, supposedly he was scarred by being thrown in jail at a tender age for pot possession, it's in fact, the subject of his song, "Samson and the Warden". Maybe that put him off going below the Mason-Dixon line.

But, he now lives pretty close to me, I think in fact, somewhere up by Hollywood, close to Big Randy. So maybe I'll get the chance. Annoyingly, he actually just played up in Santa Barbara (about an hour and a half away) at the end of last month, but I wasn't aware of it, goshdangit.

Allen, I remember your story about LWIII's icky, predatory ways and hope nothing like that happens when I see him. Hate to have something creepy and cheesy to associate with a favorite musician. Btw, I believe I do have every one of those 17 + records...
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   

Been listening to the new LW III and the only thing I find distressing is my favorite tune on the CD, "Daughter," he didn't write. He certainly could have, and there are lots of tunes on the album that are very close in quality, but still.

I actually pulled out "Last Man on Earth" last night just to play "White Winos," which I think is one of his best, and most moving tunes, ever. "Motel Blues" is pretty awesome, too, Allen. I've got a version of Big Star doing it live back in the day.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   

"Gordondon, son of Ethelred!"

I believe I remember that Big Star cover, Rob...wasn't that from that live album that came out during Ryko's flush of BS and BS-related releases?

LK, I hope that doesn't happen either, and also hope that it doesn't in any way dissuade you from going to see him when he comes. If it does, though, it's probably best to just shake your head and say "Forget it Jake, it's Loudon..."
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Little Keith
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 08:36 pm:   

Excellent reference, sir. One that I know you know is not lost on me...and, of course, I'd take my chances, if he comes back this way...

And Motel Blues is indeed a very fine song, one that is, I think, pretty emblematic of Loudon's best stuff. It has some pretty boorish aspects, the singer's aims are far from noble, but yet, because it's so perfectly describing a certain brand of loneliness, it really somehow transcends and becomes great art...And, it's one I can actually play on guitar.
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andreas
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 08:47 pm:   

john fahey - railroad

btw: i heard that in the latest mojo edition there is a two page guide called 'how to buy fahey'.
does anyone read this?
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 08:51 pm:   

There are so many great lines in "Motel Blues," aren't there? "Chonologically I know you're young/But when you kissed me in the club you bit my tounge" is a classic, as is "There's a Bible in the drawer don't be afraid/I'll put up a sign to warn the clean-up maid." Then he offers to pop for breakfast so the staff will think the groupie's his wife. It's just so well done. Alex Chilton's version was spot-on (it was actually the first version of it I'd heard since Loudo's first albums were still out of print).
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Little Keith
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 10:28 pm:   

He's a sensitive guy with a delicate soul!
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kevin
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 12:52 am:   

Queens Of The Stone Age - Era Vulgaris. Surprisingly good. I have always quite grudgingly liked them, they always strayed just the right side of the dreaded heavy rock/metal line for me, but this is great. Any guitar solos are not of the wibbly variety thank God.

Ryan Adams - Easy Tiger. Only had 2 listens, but this is indeed a return to form. Good balance between country and rock songs, although there is one song called Halloweenhead where Ryan shouts the dreaded words "Guitar solo" just before the worst guitar solo I have heard for ages. The rest of the song is crap too.
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XY765
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 01:05 am:   

I only have Songs for the Deaf by them, got it for No One Knows which is absolutely brilliant.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 01:16 am:   

Queens of the Stone Age, Kevin? I'm surprised...I thought they were the sort of stadium/crotch-rock you had no use for.
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kevin
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 01:45 am:   

Kurt, I quite like Josh Homme for his attitude, he's certainly no hair metaller. I wouldnt say they were crotch rock, which is what I mean by just staying above that dreaded line. Although I'm sure 60 to 70% of their core audience would have a record collection I would take great delight in burning.
Also the last Strokes album is more metal than the QOTSA album
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 07:03 am:   

As I think I've mentioned elsewhere here, the LWIII I'd grab if I could have only one is "Attempted Mustache." Not his deepest overall, but the many jokes still crack me up after many plays, what heartfelt stuff there is is some of his best, and it has the aforementioned "Man Who Couldn't Cry," my favorite ever song of his (gave me a right cheery feeling when I heard it sampled in that DJ Shadow song).
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 07:07 am:   

And BTW, I actually use "Forget it Jake, it's _______ on a semi-regular basis. It's such a rich line (if you know the film, of course) that it can capture so many different situations...
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 04:52 pm:   

Joe Strummer: The Future Is Unwritten - OST
Powderfinger - Dream Days At The Hotel Existe
The Byrds - Preflyte
Ryan Adams - Keep Me In Your Thoughts
Pet Shop Boys - Introspective
Cyndi Lauper - The Very Best Of
Depeche Mode - Violator
Love - Da Capo
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 05:00 pm:   

Ah, Love. "De Capo" is great, Jerry. Bought the two CD set - what's it called, "The Love Story" or something? - a couple years back and it's fabulous. They actually did some really good stuff after "Forever Changes," but not consistently. If you like the band, and you don't have it, I'd recommend it.

Re: Cyndi Lauper - isn't her best-of called "She's So Unusual"?
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 05:02 pm:   

Jerry, I *love* Love's Da Capo. Well, side 1 anyway. .. That side long jam that spans all of side 2 has to be one of the most heinously misguided attempts to pad out an album. But side 1 is thoroughly mind-blowing.
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 05:10 pm:   

Rob & Jeff, I've only got Love's Da Capo (Stereo & Mono) & Forever Changes with a few extra songs. I've had Da Capo for 2 years now & it's the 1st time I've really enjoyed it. As for the blues jam it ain't like Sister Ray Said.

The Cyndi Lauper VBO is an update with the Hey Now version of 'Girls Just Wanna ruin the original' (still like it tho)
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 05:36 pm:   

Allen,

______ ranks right up there with Maltese Falcon, The Third Man and the other great film noirs. The only noir that comes close to ________ since it was released in 1974 would be LA Confidential.
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peter ward
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 05:47 pm:   

I've been on a steady diet of Boxer by The National, not as instant as Aligator but revealing new depths with every listen..not mad about that track "mistaken as strangers" though.
Their Dublin show as been upsized to the Olympia, this could be their breakthrough album.
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joe
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 01:23 am:   

there's a couple of cyndi best ofs....twelve (or something) deadly cyns is the main one, then there's "the essential" and a whole lot of other mid-price versions as well as this newer one.

she's so unusual was her first album. nothing that followed it even slightly compared.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 07:39 am:   

Steve Earle - "Train a'Comin'" and "Jerusalem"
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XY765
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:13 pm:   

Eat to the Beat - Blondie
Seamonsters - The Wedding Present
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   

The Rolling Stones - Moonlight Mile from Sticky Fingers and Thru And Thru from Voodoo Lounge. They were both used in Sopranos episodes.
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Catherine Vaughan
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 04:40 pm:   

Vic Chesnutt - Guilty by Association and Lucinda Williams - Blue, with a little Holdsteady thrown in just in case I get too chilled out
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 05:55 pm:   

Catherine, seriously great taste, but isn't that a little murky music to be listening to while the sun is still out, which I'm assuming it is where you are?

I guess that's where the Hold Steady comes in...
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 06:52 pm:   

... unless you're listening to "The Chillout Tent."
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 06:56 pm:   

Apples in Stereo - "New Magnetic Wonder."

Bought it a few months back but didn't really have time to listen to it (it's 24 tracks). Gave it a spin last night - and wow. I've liked some of their earlier stuff but this is a breakthough. XTC with muscle.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 03:49 am:   

Seconded on that one, Rob...
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Catherine Vaughan
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   

Thanks LK, but no, the sun has refused to shine here for the past few days. Lucinda and Vic are definitely not sunshiny listening!! Lots of rain here, big brooding clouds, and there's thunder in the air which would help to clear it all, but it hasn't made an appearance yet. Maybe I should dig out The Replacements "One good dose of Thunder" to encourage it on its way. And The Holdsteady sound good, whatever the weather!!
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 05:05 pm:   

I hope the roof's not leaking, Catherine! I'll feel slightly responsible. If you have it, maybe it's time for Chesnutt's "Rambunctious Cloud" with his lesson in rain and the law of conservation.

Currently, "Keren Ann." I do wish she hadn't abandoned singing in French.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 05:33 pm:   

Doing some gardening this morning, before the temp hits the forcast of 91 F, and before I head down to the Puerto Rican Independence Day parade, which is always a wild rumpus. So:

Godwin Kabaka Opara's Oriental Brothers International - "Do Better if You Can"
Comet Gain - "City Fallen Leaves"
Ornette Coleman - "Of Human Feelings"
Black Uhuru - "Red"
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - "Some Loud Thunder"
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Little Keith
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   

"Thirding" the big ups on the new Apples in Stereo. It's a tremendous disc and they're just scarily talented. And yeah, it's like XTC on steroids, with big, ridiculous Barry Bonds biceps and a size 19 1/2 cap...

Rob, it must be the height of luxury to have a little palace (to borrow a phrase from a famous bard) in Chi-town in the early summer. And that parade sounds like a hoot, too...

I'm listening to a hodge podge of things, mostly inspired by the little LA-noir potboiler I just finished, "Echo Park" by Michael Connelly (great great - highly recommended, Rob and AB), which has a lot of stuff set around Dodger stadium. So, I just listened to Ry Cooder's magnificent "Chavez Ravine", which is mentioned in the book, and is actually quoted from. I'm guessing, though, that the author probaby had to pay Ry something for it...And, another section mentions a cop bar in LA that keeps the Clash's "I Fought the Law" on the jukebox, cuz the po po enjoy hearing it after they bust a bad guy, for its "and the law won" chorus, so I had to pull that out, too. It's probably true, btw: Connelly meticulously researches his stuff.

And ah, what to play next? I think the Jam's "Going Underground" would work perfectly...
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 06:53 pm:   

Too bad it's not the Bobby Fuller Four version. Or, better yet, the Equals' "Police On My Back."

91 sounds intense if you've got Great Lakes humidity. Puerto Rican Independence Day sounds fun. And--ok I admit it--sexy.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 01:59 am:   

Apples in Stereo sounding like XTC? Is this for real? I haven't heard Apples in ages, nearly a decade, maybe, and back then they were just kind of twee indie-pop. But XTC? That sure as hell ain't twee. Should this XTC fan be intrigued? (and which era of XTC are we talking about?)
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 02:00 am:   

I was in NY one year on Puerto Rican Independence Day. It was a riot. Literally. In Central Park.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 02:23 am:   

Randy, I've just listened to the Bobby Fuller Four version of I Fought The Law. What a song.
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Catherine Vaughan
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   

The roof held up well, Randy! Sun is shining here today, but I'll dig out Ghetto Bells for the inevitable next downpour of our wonderful Irish summer. I think I'll hold off on playing it until it IS raining - don't want to encourage those clouds!

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