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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 607
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:07 am:   

I apologize if this has been done already: what are some of your favorite albums in one of the diciest forms ever, the rag-and-bone, B-Sides-and-unreleaseds compilation? Since I'm not that big on rules if you want to include Bonus Discs or weird-half-best-of-half-B-sides-thingies in that definition, go right ahead. Just off the top of my mind:

Archers of Loaf - The Speed of Cattle
Saint Etienne - Interlude
Black Box Recorder - The Worst of...
Nirvana - Incesticide
Pet Shop Boys - Alternative
Go-Bees - SHF and 16LL bonus discs
Sonic Youth - Dirty Bonus Disc

And I'm sure there's more.
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 2171
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:20 am:   

Elvis Costello - Out of Our Idiot
Who - Odds N Sods
Rolling Stones - Metamorphosis
Marshall Crenshaw - 9 Volt Years
Beatles - Hey Jude
Richard & Linda Thompson - Guitar, Milkmaid & Vocal
Kinks - Lost Album
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 608
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:34 am:   

Yexcellent stuff dere, LK...reminds me of another one:

King of America Bonus Disc
Al Green - Love Ritual: Rare and Unreleased
Clash - Super Black Market Clash
Replacements - Nothing For All
Velvets - Another VU
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:38 am:   

You guys nailed some great ones, esp. the Who, Beatles, and RT discs (LK, I'm putting a different Kinks disc). A bunch more:

Bob Dylan - Bootleg Series (vols. 1-3)
Elvis Costello - Taking Liberties
The Kinks - The Kink Kronikles
Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady (OK per Allen's non-rules)
Velvet Underground - VU (see above)
Joy Division - Substance
Yo La Tengo - Genius + Love
Pavement - Westing (by Musket and Sextant)
R.E.M. - Dead Letter Office
Sugar - Besides
Devo - Hardcore Devo
Orange Juice - The Glasgow School
Stereolab - Refried Ectoplasm (Switched On. Vol 2)
The Chills - Kaleidoscope World
Spacemen 3 - Transluscent Flashbacks

I guess there are a lot of these oddz 'n sodz comps, now that I think about it. And I don't own it yet (shame on me), but I can't believe you guys forgot Tom Waits's "Orphans" set.
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 609
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:49 am:   

Yup, that one just occurred to me, Kurt...as you say, once you start thinking of them it begins to seem like not exactly the wholly benighted form it's thought of as...
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:51 am:   

New Order - Substance, second disc
Mekons - I Have Been to Heaven and Back
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 2172
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 03:56 am:   

Dang, double dang, a ding dang doo! How could I've forgotten "Orphans"? The big mack Daddy of all odds and sods sets.
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Rob Brookman
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Post Number: 843
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:37 pm:   

Good thread, Allen. I think everyone pretty much hit my faves: the Waits, the Archers, the Sugar, etc. I've also enjoyed the recent Freedy Johnston outtakes collection, "The Way I Were." There's also Springsteen's "Tracks," which is a little too much of a good thing (it'd make a killer two-disc set in a less bloated form), but, you know, it's Springsteen.
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frank bascombe
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 04:29 pm:   

Rob What coincidence just thinking of getting the Freedy Johnston out tonight as not listened to it in years,and was wandering if anyone on here had heard of him.
Most of mine mentioned above the Costello,Waits, Dylan, Springsteen
Also the Go-bees: Live on Snap
Triffids-Calenture (alternative lp)
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 04:47 pm:   

I've wondered many times whether "Dead Letter Office" might be the only REM I'd ever want to have. (I don't have it). I love the odds & sods collections. They are frequently the best. "VU" makes that case emphatically.

As usual, my additions will be mostly really old things:

Beatles -- Yesterday & Today
Bee Gees -- Brilliance from Birth. Ugly packaging but really!
Beau Brummels -- Magic Hollow
Blue Aeroplanes -- Friendloverplane
The Byrds -- Never Before
Half of the Cannanes' CDs will qualify but "A Love Affair With Nature" is my pick.
Carter-Lewis -- The Carter-Lewis Story
Alex Chilton -- Stuff
Gene Clark -- Roadmaster
Lloyd Cole -- Etc.
Easybeats -- The Shame Just Drained
Go Betweens -- Lost Album but otherwise, yes, the bonus discs to BH, SHF and LB
Hollies -- The Other Side of the Hollies
Ed Kuepper -- Butterfly Net
Magazine -- After the Fact
John Mayall -- Looking Back
Monochrome Set -- Volume, Contrast, Brilliance
Plug Uglies -- (untitled)
Rolling Stones -- Flowers
Ron Sexsmith -- Rarities
and remember that vinyl XTC set that had the A sides on one record and the B sides on the other? Great set but I guess the A sides part of it disqualifies the whole. Stupid me, I gave it away.
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 05:02 pm:   

There's more:

Talk Talk - A-sides & Besides disc 2
The Wonderstuff - Lovebites & Bruises
Rolling Stones - Metamorphosis & Hot Rocks 2
Nick Cave - B-sides & Rareities
Pulp - Deluxe reissues etc etc

... & I suppose, all the Peel Session albums that have been released in the last couple of years.
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 613
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 08:05 pm:   

Randy, I think if Singles Going Steady counts, then the XTC one certainly does. And hey, so does 1978-1990! Tons of good stuff mentioned - Yesterday and Today reminds me of one I haven't heard in years, the Beatles "Rarities." Not the US version which was mostly a joke, but the UK one, which had all the songs which didn't make the albums there (a killer bunch of songs) plus stuff like "You Know My Name" and that great version of "Across the Universe."

That Freedy one is quite good, Rob...and More Hot Rocks, damn haven't listened to that one in years. I should hunt it down...
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 08:38 pm:   

A couple more that work almost as well as the bands' "official" albums:

Pere Ubu - Terminal Tower
Only Ones - Remains
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Rob Brookman
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Post Number: 845
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 09:25 pm:   

Oh, "Terminal Tower"! A classic. Nice, Kurt.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 745
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:49 am:   

Robyn Hitchcock - Invisible Hitchcock
Robyn Hitchcock - You & Oblivion
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joe
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Post Number: 261
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 01:26 pm:   

psb - alternative
the smiths - hatful
suede - sci fi lullabies
pulp - second class ep

i thought i had more to offer than that! and that my list would be less predictable.... oddly, all the above are albums i've owned and loved forever, i can't think of any b sides comps, etc i've bought in recent memory.... like, at all!
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 04:56 pm:   

A couple of others:


Sleepless Nights - Flying Burrito Brothers
Especially since it was the only place you could find the three Gram and Emmylou outakes from Grievous Angel for years! They were "Sleepless Nights", "The Angles Rejoiced Last Night" and "Brand New Heartache".

Crowded House - Afterglow


John Coltrane - OM
This one has some history behind it. Supposidly recorded when John was tripin' on acid, he didn't want it released. After his death two years later from liver cancer, it was released.
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 2178
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   

Sleepless Nights! Excellent one, MB. Can't believe I forgot that one. I'll have to burn a candle at my Gram Parsons shrine as penance...
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 05:22 pm:   

First and foremost, I nominate..

The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow and Louder than Bombs

Any Smiths obsessive will tell you these albums are absolutely crucial. They are both seamless, highly consistent comps full of largely non-lp a-sides, b-sides, and BBC sessions. It's possible that I've listened to these two comps more times than their actual albums. Gripping and essential stuff.

Others would include

Pale Fountains - Longshot for Your Love
Microdisney - Love Your Enemies
Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady (easily their best collection of songs)
The Cure - Join the Dots
Go-Betweens - SHF and SMAL bonus discs
Josef K - Young & Stupid
Pere Ubu - Terminal Tower
REM - Dead Letter Office
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 749
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 05:36 pm:   

LK,

Or just listen to "Rejoiced" and know that Gram forgives you. Hard to believe that any of those three didn't make Grievous, but I read somewhere that Gram didn't want too many Felice and Boudreux Bryant penned songs on GA, so they weren't included.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   

Oh, and how could I have forgotten this?

Beach Boys - 20/20
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 1498
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 09:19 pm:   

Jeff, I can't believe I forgot "Louder than Bombs" (or the somewhat overlapping "Hatful of Hollow")--it is definitely one of the best of this type of album ever. Really essential Smiths.

The U.S. version of "The Clash" might fall into this category too, since it took part of the first UK album and added a number of singles, B-sides, etc. The UK album is more "organic," but the U.S. version is the one I'd pick if I could only have one.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 09:45 pm:   

And another crucial and brilliant album of cobbled-together randomness that I'm surprised I forgot to list above:

Cocteau Twins - Pink Opaque


Pink Opaque contains a few random EP tracks, as well as the lovely and uber-rare "Millimillenary," which, if I'm not mistaken is to this day still only found on PO. (I was annoyed that said track didn't find its way onto Violaine vol. 1).

Kurt - I'm with you on the US vs UK versions of "The Clash." Maybe it's a simple case of "that's what I'm used to," but I'm certainly not letting go of my US version. As for "Louder than Bombs," I'm always amazed at how consistent that album is. How often do you get a double-length comp that's listenable almost all the way through? ("Golden Lights" being the sole track I'm prone to skipping).
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:43 pm:   

And yet another: Wild Swans - Incandescent
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joe
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:58 pm:   

i agree jeff....the pink opaque trumps just about any other cocteaus record. brilliant.
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 02:49 pm:   

Hmmm, what's missing?

Belle & Sebastian - Push Barman...
Doves - Lost Sides
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Little Keith
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Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 04:37 pm:   

Some also-ran, better luck next time, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, efforts:

Bob Zimmerman - Self Portrait, Dylan (which Robert Christgau curiously gives an "E". Wtf?)

Van Morrison - the Philosopher's Stone. Better than the two mentioned above by many miles, but still...

A middling effort, that is satisfying in many places:

XTC - Rag and Bone Buffet. Perhaps Herr AB was alluding to this collection with his thread title....

One surprisingly great one, given its rag tag, humble origins - it seems like swept up table scraps at first glance, but it flows beautifully, frequently astonishes and makes yet another case for what a great artist the raggedy ole Canuck is:

Neil Young - Lucky 13.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 05:57 pm:   

That XTC was partly on my mind, LK, though I've never heard the album, and I knew that the phrase long predates that album..."rag and bone man" is an old British term for a junk dealer, and has since gone on to become attached to similar things like this.

I agree, that Neil Young is a great one, but I hesitated putting it in because I thought that everything on it had been previously released...at most there was like a song or two that were remixed. Am I wrong?

And forget "Orphans"...I can't believe none of us have mentioned The Goddamn Basement Tapes, truly the big mama...the only explanation I can come up with is that we all somehow thought someone else MUST have mentioned it previously...
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 01:56 am:   

I forgot all about Pink Opaque and Love Your Enemies. I agree, Jeff. Both are great.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 08:11 pm:   

Have just recently bougt Pink Opaque on cd (although I've had a vinyl copy for many years) I can testify to it's greatness as well. I don't think I would put it above Treasure though.

I would love to see a reissue of Dead Letter Office. Or how about a Chronic Town cd with some circa 1982 live cuts!!!
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   

Michael - I've never understood why there's never been a proper Chronic Town reissue on CD. Was it ever released on CD? I know it used to get tacked onto the CD of Dead Letter Office. Given Chronic Town's unparalleled brilliance, I definitely think it needs a release of its own, fluffed out with some period demos and live cuts.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 12:51 pm:   

Jeff - I have never seen Chronic Town on cd other than being tacked onto the end of DLO. I would love to see a deluxe cd of CT. It's old enough to be out on it's own, so to speak!
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 05:06 am:   

I just thought of another brilliant compilation: Opal - Early Recordings.
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XY765
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Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 09:20 am:   

Barbed Wire Kisses - Jesus and Mary Chain
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:29 am:   

Jeff, Great call on Opal! I sent an e-mail to Rhino requesting that they reissue it and Happy Nightmare Baby.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 08:14 pm:   

Yeah, it's a shame that Opal's "Early Recordings" is so scarce. CD copies go for absurd amounts of money on eBay. I was lucky enough to have found a vinyl copy a while ago for relatively cheap.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 03:24 pm:   

The Bats - Compiletely.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 12:23 am:   

Grrr! What is ON "Compiletely?"
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 12:01 pm:   

Early EP tracks Randy. I have it on cassette and a burned CD.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 05:14 pm:   

I have "Compiletely" recorded on an old cassette. I should hunt for it when I get home. The contents of "Compiletely" and "Daddy's Highway" have always been my favorite Bats material.
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 06:15 pm:   

Randy, prior to the release of their first album, The Bats recorded two ep's and a three track 12 inch single ( By Night; And Here Is...Music For The Fireside; Made Up in Blue ) and 'Compiletely' collects together all the songs from these with the exception of 'My Way' which appeared on 'By Night.' I love it and it is well worth a listen.

Jeff, the sound quality on the cd is not that great. I dread to think how it sounds on cassette. 'Compiletely' and Daddy's Highway' are also my favourite albums by the band.

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