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Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2152 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 02:52 am: | |
No Reason To Cry... I finally got a copy of "Write Your Adventures Down", and though I'm too lazy to look and see who's covering it, it's a very fine version and testament to what a great, remarkable and totally haunting song it is...Wonder if it was about somebody in real life, maybe Amanda? No matter though - whoever the subject was, it's completely moving and big-spirited, like the man that wrote it. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 594 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 05:29 am: | |
Wish I could say it was a beauty like that one, LK, but for some reason the one that's been running through my head these past few days like an insistent commercial jingle is "Cracked Wheat." It's a meal you eat, you know. That's a truth of some kind... |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1636 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:15 pm: | |
Yes it is about Amanda LK. I said that when the album came out but one of this site's occasional visitors (I'm not going to bother naming him) shot me down and said it wasn't. As if he had the inside track or something. Well, he doesn't and it is! |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1640 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:24 pm: | |
Drag Me Down Again - The Godfathers. An awesome song. "You've dulled your senses and gone insane, you cannot tell lemonade from champagne" |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1645 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:36 pm: | |
Sorry, just realised this is a Go-Betweens song thread. Apologies Jonathan! |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 830 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:13 pm: | |
"Girl Lying on a Beach" has been trapped in my brain pan of late, maybe because everyone mentioned RF played it live. Such a simple song, but so insidiously catchy. |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1490 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:38 pm: | |
"You Won't Find It Again" - Rediscovered it recently when giving a rare spin to the 16LL bonus disc. |
Duncan Hurwood
Member Username: Duncan_h
Post Number: 81 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 05:09 pm: | |
The Locust Girls is mine. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1658 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 05:18 am: | |
I Love You Still. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 612 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 06:49 am: | |
Make Her Day |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2173 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 03:41 pm: | |
Like that song a lot, AB, but I'm puzzled by the second line, about "she's got fins that touch everything"...Wtf? Is it a luv song to Flipper (the fish, er mammal, not the group)? Mine for the week is "Surfing Magazines". I know some don't like it, but I guess I've listened to it enough for it to sink in. Great chorus. Still can't warm up to "German Farmhouse", though. |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1496 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 04:56 pm: | |
Aw, "German Farmhouse" is funny--everyone here is too hard on it. When they played it live in Seattle a couple years ago, they almost sounded like the Velvet Underground of "Foggy Notion," and I'm willing to put up with goofy lyrics for that. That song and "Surfing Magazines" seem to mean a lot to RF, don't they? |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2175 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 06:00 pm: | |
Dunno, man. I've tried to like it. It just doesn't, at the end of the day, seem all that musically interesting, despite having a clever conceit. The novelty of that only got me through the first half dozen listens, though. The two songs do seem to mean a lot to RF. I like "Surfing Magazines", because I'm mad for all things surfing-related. I like, too, that it's a paean of sorts to surfing, but the narrator doesn't seem to actually surf - he just follows it. Perhaps the chorus penetrating my brain is helped by the fact that they repeat it roughly 252 times in the live version. And, I forgive Forster for not mentioning any Cali surf spots - they all seem to be Hawaiian or Aus. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 844 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 08:19 pm: | |
I agree with you, Kurt, about "German Farmhouse" having a VU vibe. It was pretty raucous when I saw them do it live. I confess I wasn't as taken with any of Forster's tunes on TFORW when it first came out; they sounded skeletal, sketchy, especially compared to his earlier GBs stuff. Grant's songs were more what I was expecting. The more I played them, though, the more they grew on me, although I still think he benefits from a bit of extra production, a la the more instrumentally rich stuff on "Oceans Apart." |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 614 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 10:52 pm: | |
Actually, "German Farmhouse" had me almost instantly...I like Robert's pretensions (and there are very few musicians I can make that statement about) but I also like when he lets his hair down: I love the goofy vocal styling/phrasing and its danceability - it's always a hit at parties. Not his deepest song, certainly, but not intended to be, and still far from shallow...like "Surfing Magazines" he's obviously talking about a time that was important to him. I think the magic ingredient in the latter song is that wistful, elegiac "la laaaa la la la la la la." |
Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 119 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 10:09 am: | |
The humour of German Farmhouse got me straight away, but as a song, it took time to grow on me. With Surfing Magazines, it was instant - definitely the lalalas - there just aren't enough good lalala songs anymore! I've been meaning to ask for ages.. Am I right in thinking surfing magazines are just mild porn? As in "We used to wet our fingers on Surfing Magazines"? OK, it makes me either very naive, or dirty minded that I have to ask this, but I've never actually seen a surfing magazine!! |
spence
Member Username: Spence
Post Number: 1727 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 10:31 am: | |
German Farmhouse is greeeeat! Only RF could have written it! I love the fact that the riff, which I think he siad he got whilst at Edwyn's recording sometime prior to the release, sounds grunge(y). The guitars sound very American on Friends of Rachel Worth, I think maybe Janet Weiss was a subconcious influential element? Having said all that, I couldn't imagine RF writing something like this, say, for Tallulah? |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 847 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 03:57 pm: | |
And don't forget, Spence, that the great Carrie Brownstein played some six-string on the TFORW. That's pretty American. God, I miss Sleater-Kinney. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2180 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 04:10 pm: | |
Catherine, you dirty-minded thing, you. Interesting interpretation which never occured to me, which is unusual, since my own dirty mind always "goes there"... Actually, they do have surfing magazines in the states, whole racks of them, and it is like porn, surfing porn, at least. Sadly, my own interpretation is more literary and nerdily fussy. Since, the song seems to be about "spectatin'", living vicariously through one's heroes, I thought Forster was indulging in a bit of poetic fancy - instead of actually surfing and getting wet that way, he and his pals would get their fingers wet, in their imaginations at least, by touching photos of waves...they never have to leave their bedsits and actually get in the water. I like your red-blooded and much more interesting take on the song much better... |
Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 124 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 05:03 pm: | |
I shall go home and wash my mind out with soap and water! I did also have a simplified version of your interpretation - all those wannabe surfers - the surfing equivalent of blokes who buy Total Guitar magazine, incessantly playing "stairway to heaven" in their bedroom, and dreaming of being rockstars. But I like your - far less filthy - image, of them touching the photos, and it being the nearest they'll get to surfing. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 660 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 10:05 pm: | |
Fav song of the week: Finding You - such a beautiful song! Since Grant's passing, this song sometimes makes me a little teary eyed. Position on the German Farmhouse debate: Love the lyrics (I agree, *only* Robert could've written those), but find the fist-pumping music to be mildly amusing but ultimately a disposable and goofy diversion. I mean, on a purely musical level, it's just not very interesting songwriting to me. It's pastiche and it's ironic. My theory is that it's partly SK's fault, given their propensity for rocking out and their involvement on FORW. Position on Surfing Magazines debate: I used to think it was a fun and decent tune with amusing/engaging lyrics until I saw them play it live, wherein they turned it into an overly drawn-out, epic, endurance-defying test. It seemed forced live, like they took a merely average song and forced it into some epic, show-stopping highlight that to me it just isn't. But that's just my own idiosyncratic take on things. |
Matsrep
Member Username: Matsrep
Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 12:08 pm: | |
I believe that you won't find any S-K guitar on German Farmhouse, only on one song (Going Blind) on TFORW (according to the sleeve). Janet Wiess drumming is great of course, but that's the only S-K influence on German Farmhouse. (Reviewers at the time suggested that The Clock also had S-K guitars, but I think not.) I do like German Farmhouse - I first heard it acoustic with Robert solo (a tape from an american in store gig, if I remember right). It's exactly the same song (riff, words etc.)! One funny thing (as I recall the tape): Robert says that he is going to play a new song (which has been discussed on the GBs list) so the audience cheers and shouts "German Farmhouse!" to Robert's astonishment. One of the most underrated GBs songs is Spirit of a Vampire from Tallulah (a slow 'rocker' like German Farmhouse). |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1499 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 03:57 pm: | |
I don't know--that intro guitar on "German Farmhouse" sure sounds like vintage Carrie Brownstein to me. Then again, Robert played it faithfully live, so maybe not. Perhaps he was trying to sound like S-K since they were hanging around together at the time. I agree, Matstrep, about "Spirit of a Vampyre" being in a similar vein to "German Farmhouse," as both are uncharacteristic "hard rockers" with a bit of distortion on the guitars, a rare thing in Go-Betweens land. And both good songs, IMHO. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 848 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 04:45 pm: | |
"The Clock" sure sounds S-K-ish to me, Matsrep. If Carrie didn't play on it, someone involved was really grooving on "Dig Me Out," methinks. I love "Spirit of a Vampire," too - it's actually one of my favorite Robert songs. Although it does recall "German Farmhouse," to my ears it has a bit more going on musically. I love the part where the chords acend and especially the coda, when Robert sings "Hey, that's when it starts." Don't ask me what "the electric train of soft cylinder parts" means, but it gets me every time. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 661 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 04:58 pm: | |
Matsrep - I'll have to dig it out, but I do recall reading somewhere that S-K members contributed guitar to both German Farmhouse and the Clock. Even if it turns out they didn't, I still think their influence is felt strongly on those tunes. Remember, Robert and Grant have often relied heavily on the input or influence of whoever they're working with during any given album. I like "Spirit of a Vampire" okay, especially the chorus. It's a bit muddy sounding on the original LP, but the most recent Tallulah reissue/remastering really brought it out of the muck, sonically. |
Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 129 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 06:54 pm: | |
Palm Sunday (On Board the S.S, Within) |
Matsrep
Member Username: Matsrep
Post Number: 37 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 02:30 pm: | |
Jeff, you are maybe right; although the pre-publicity for TFORW included a lot of exaggerated stuff, about the participation of S-K, and also about Elliott Smith playing guitar (or at least lending his guitar). Etc. The Clock is a very fine song. The riff seems to be a Grant one (S-K derived?) but the jangly solo/outro is by Robert (and indeed classic GBs too!). I've seen him do it live and on video. Have you read the Larry Crane article about TFORW. I think it is on the Tape-Op website. Apparently RF & GM did not want any fancy keyboards by Sam Coomes, only simple things. They wanted it clean and simple. (Almost the same thing appears to have been the message to Alex Ferguson who produced I need two heads back in 1980! At least that's what he told me 15 years later.) Crane also says something about his rough mixes being chosen for the finished album. I think he (Crane) did a fine job. |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1500 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:01 pm: | |
So why are those horrible prog-rock keyboard fills on the finished version of TFORW? I have a Quasi album and Sam Coomes plays nothing as obnoxious there as his pompous synth parts on "Magic in Here," a song I never grew to like until I heard it live, where Grant mercifully substituted a guitar fill for that nasty little keyboard squiggle. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1679 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 01:55 pm: | |
Alex Ferguson produced I Need Two Heads? Wow! And went from that to managing Aberdeen and then Manchester United. What a talented guy. He's stayed too long at Man U though. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 853 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 02:00 pm: | |
"That Way." Never took much notice of the tune until I heard a live version from '89 that knocked me out. I've always wondered who it was written about. |
fsh
Member Username: Fsh
Post Number: 122 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 03:46 pm: | |
Peter Walsh of the Apartments ... I think ... |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2191 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 05:37 pm: | |
The Black Hat - a completely worthy, but I think, underappreciated song in the canon. You don't hear that much about it, nor has it been in many live sets by them, if any... |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2192 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 05:38 pm: | |
Er, that should read "Ghost and the...". Sorry, Ghost. |
Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 149 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 05:40 pm: | |
My guess is that it's probably a difficult one to replicate live. Come to think of it, I don't remember ever hearing it live... |
Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 150 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 05:40 pm: | |
Ah, we knew what you meant!! |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 665 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 06:16 pm: | |
The Ghost and the Black Hat has always been one of my very favorite songs. So beautiful and simple, but so melodically rich, especially with the accordian that really drives the song. It's my guess that the reason it's never played live is because of the accordian. It really is a crucial element in the song, and maybe it wouldn't work so well without it? Lindy's beat on Black Hat is just mind-blowing, too. No one else could've come up with that song. As for "That Way," another stellar Grant number, I recall reading in Nichols' biography that it was written about Peter Milton Walsh. What it all means, in the context of Walsh, I'm not really sure. In a way it kind of adds to Walsh's mystique, I suppose. |
Matsrep
Member Username: Matsrep
Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 08:19 am: | |
Prog rock keyboards: Kurt, I think it could have ended worse (or miles better, who knows). I've seen Quasi live once, and the were great (especially the mad keyboard). I guess that Larry Crane meant that Robert and Grant wanted control, and the contributions from the other players should not get out of hand. On the other hand: why not make an experiment once in a while? Alex Ferguson (or Fergusson according to Wikipedia) is of course another AF; he were in both Alternative TV and Psychick TV. Favourite songs of the day: I keep coming back to Finding You, City of Lights and Sleeping Giant (Worlds Apart EP). |
Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 176 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 01:49 pm: | |
Haven't I been a fool, the live version on Surfing Magazines single |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1690 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 11:35 am: | |
Radio Nowhere - Bruce Springsteen. This is power pop genius. And I'm not kidding! Those of you who suffer from Brucelosis won't like it of course. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1691 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 11:36 am: | |
I've done it again! Sorry, posted in the wrong thread. |
Svein Inge Saether
Member Username: Springrain
Post Number: 19 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:18 am: | |
Current faves: Spirit of a Vampyre and You Tell Me. I, too, miss Sleater-Kinney. Desperately. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 650 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 09:42 pm: | |
Saw Corin with her toddler a little while ago in Seattle...wot a liddle cutie. |
Matthias
Member Username: Matthias
Post Number: 240 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 07:34 pm: | |
Well it is September but I'll post here anyway - title be damned. I am listening to Finding You at work. It has such a great tug. The melancholy draws me to the flame. My favorite part is the bridge when Grant sings A-Ha-ahh-hhhuuu. There's something sublime there that gets me everytime and interrupts whatever I am doing. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2243 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 08:05 pm: | |
That is indeed a sublime moment, Matt, and one that always stops me in my tracks, too. I couldn't help but notice that the great bit of singing is omitted from the Tivoli version of the song, where they opt instead, to actually play that melodic figure on guitar. Not nearly as satisfying. They also, for whatever reason, omit the other great great guitar hook from the song that's featured on the studio version. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 696 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 08:30 pm: | |
But, if I'm thinking of the same part, on the record Grant and the guitar figure are kind of doing the same melody in unison. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2244 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 09:06 pm: | |
I may be remembering it wrong and/or splitting hairs, but the guitar on the studio version seems to be playing counterpoint to the vocal melody, whereas on the live version the guitar, more or less, takes on that melody. At any rate, I miss that particular bit of Grant's vocal razzle dazzle on the live take. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 697 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:54 pm: | |
Agreed, hearing Grant sing that little part sends a chill up my spine. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 679 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 08:24 am: | |
Go-Bees: Wait Until June Robert: I Can Do Grant: No Peace In My Palace |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2260 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 04:10 pm: | |
Orpheus Beach. The Clientele do a cool version of it on the upcoming tribute to Grant. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2284 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 03:18 am: | |
Hope Then Strife. Almost too sad to listen to, but still gorgeous. |
David Gagen
Member Username: David_g
Post Number: 102 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 04:12 am: | |
"There's ice around your heart, my home. dada da" What a line! |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1721 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:59 am: | |
The saddest thing, he's just a king in mirrors. Going through my head and I don't know why. |
joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 300 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 04:11 am: | |
that way "there'll come a time when someone will say that it wasn't that way" must be a wistful time of the year all round. it's a hard line to swallow, but i can't tear myself apart from it. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2367 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 04:25 am: | |
The Statue - a perennial favorite, at least for the three or four years it's been out. Can never quite figure out if it makes me happy or sad... |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 746 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 06:14 pm: | |
The Sound of Rain - a perfect song for the first few days of fall-ish weather we've been having here, and just a lovely, classic tune. Also - Hammer the Hammer - simple but highly effective. I love the little lead guitar melody after the first chorus. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2368 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 06:23 pm: | |
You're gettin' fallish days up there, man? You're in Oakland, right? We haven't gotten that memo yet, that it's actually October, down here in the County of Orange. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 747 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 07:31 pm: | |
Yeah, I'm in Oakland. We had some rain yesterday, not to mention a damp, jacket-worthy chill in the air that lingers in the morning. Leaves are starting to blow around a bit. I like it. I reckon you LA/Orange Co. folks are dealing with those dry, hot Santa Ana winds? Or is that San Diego that gets those? Or are those just in September? I can't remember... I do remember spending Xmas down in San Diego a few years ago and it was 80 freaking degrees on Christmas day. 80!!! At least up here the weather has the common decency to reach down into the 30s for the holidays! |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2369 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 08:25 pm: | |
Yep, dunno bout SD, but it's definitely us, we get plenty of them hot, dry, fire-starting Santa Anas, even in October. The 30's, eh? that must be nice. |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1561 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:04 am: | |
"Sound of Rain" and lovely are not really things I think of together, given the first-degree murder ending! It's too bad Robert the immature songwriter felt the need to do that; it would be a great song otherwise. I understand why David Nichols dislikes it despite the pretty guitar figures. |
Michelle M
Member Username: Michelle
Post Number: 41 Registered: 09-2004
| Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 03:55 am: | |
LK, re: The Statue. I don't think that it should be viewed necessarily as a sad song but more a tale about dreams and the reality that hits one at dawn. Okay, maybe it is a sad song. My take is that it is about awakening from a dream and facing a bright morning and recalling a dream. There is a contrast of the cool dry images of the dreamstate (dust, moonlight) and the more vital images of being awake at dawn with its heat and life(sunrise, wind, fir trees, clouds shaped like dragons). And the statue you may query? Well, I am not sure just who is the statue. The dreamer or the dreamee. Whoever it is, that person has decided that it is easier to shut down his/her feelings and to hide rather than to acknowledge and confront their feelings and/or be reminded of their feelings. Yes, he/she has lost touch with his/her feelings thus noone will touch, hurt, move or find that person. Okay, it is a sad song LK |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 748 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 06:32 am: | |
Kurt - re: Sound of Rain, yeah, the lyrics are a bit juvenile, at least the conclusion. Robert was probably going for some kind of cinematic drama with a bit of irony. Regardless, it's the gorgeous, shimmering music I respond so positively to. |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 839 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 05:21 pm: | |
It's Fall here in Michigan as well, but the colors are not vivid at all yet north of Detroit. I'm going up north to Traverse City next weekend, and hope to see some better Fall colors. My best friends live a block off a very picturesque lake. Smooth jazz pianist Bob James lives on the lake and Demi Moore and Bruce Willis co-own a mansion on the lake so they can visit their daughter who attends the renown Interlochen Center for the Arts which is a few miles south of the lake. |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 971 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 06:36 pm: | |
It's lovely up in Traverse, Michael. This is a great time of the year to go. Have a great time! |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2374 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 04:16 pm: | |
Hey Michelle, how are you? Long time no see here... Nice analysis of the Statue. Wow, GM really crammed a lot into those three minutes, didn't he? It seems like a pretty sad state to be in (one, I should admit to having been in a few times), but who am I to judge? Whatever gets you thru the night. But something about the music, the beauty in the way it's expressed, the work of art it is (forgive me for waxing pretentious), ultimately comes across as transcendent and life-affirming. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1778 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 07:15 am: | |
Finding You. First Grant song I heard when I got home after his funeral. |
Georgina Sheils
Member Username: Georgina
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 10:58 pm: | |
Id have to say 'Bachelor Kisses' and 'You can't say no forever' would be my favourites. But i adore them all. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 767 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 11:11 pm: | |
Welcome, Georgina...by coincidence "You Can't Say No Forever" has been alternating with "Darlinghurst Nights" in my head this week. |
Juan Vera Bellon
Member Username: Veritabellon
Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 01:51 am: | |
This august week of october I would say "That way" is the GBTWS song I've been listening to,although "Black Mule" is close there too |
Georgina Sheils
Member Username: Georgina
Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:21 pm: | |
Hi allen, Yes i have recently just discovered the Go-Betweens and i am addicted to them. I am especially a fan of 16LL. its really great that i am able to talk about the go-betweens as people of my generation don't really know about their music. It's great!!! |
Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 988 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 01:42 am: | |
Hey, Georgina: You obviously have exquisite taste, whatever your generation. Welcome. |
Elizabeth Robinson
Member Username: Liz_the_new_listener
Post Number: 120 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 02:46 am: | |
Hi, Georgina - and congratulations on your discovery of the Go-Betweens. It was about this time this year that I heard them for the first time myself. Go-B's song of the week - 'Clouds', tangy on 16 Lover's Lane and mellow on 'Live in London'. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2399 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 03:14 am: | |
"Mountains Near Dell Ray" - if I live to be 1,000, I'll still probably never figure out exactly what this song means, exactly, though the feeling-state it inspires just gets more and more powerful through repeated listenings... Welcome Juan and Georgina. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 1791 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 12:35 pm: | |
Welcome Juan and Georgina. Good to have you on board. We're a friendly lot here. Mostly. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 771 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 07:48 pm: | |
Keith - I'm with ya on "Mountains." Musically it's as every bit as breath-taking as the scenery conjured up in the lyrics. My personal fav Go-Betweens song(s) of the week: Bow Down and To Reach Me. The former is one of the most beautiful songs ever written, while the latter is a stellar, possibly overlooked pop gem. Been listening to Liberty Belle this week, obviously. Somehow the rainy weather we've been having seemed appropriate. |
Peter_d
Member Username: Peter_d
Post Number: 35 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 09:32 pm: | |
There's an interesting bit about "Mountains.." in this blog I came across: http://standanddeliver.blogs.com/dombo/g obetweens/index.html |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2406 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 10:20 pm: | |
Interesting. Great pic, too - it seems to capture that essential GoBees mojo... ps - Georgina, 16 LL is my personal favorite, too. |
Adam Gibbs
Member Username: Adam_gibbs
Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 04:34 pm: | |
"In The Core Of The Flame" - For the way it soars into the bridge and the desperation in Grant's voice as he sings "Will you keep me safe from the World, and hold me just like a pearl". One of his great vocal performances. |
frank bascombe
Member Username: Frankb
Post Number: 187 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 04:38 pm: | |
I just love those first 3 songs on side 2 of LB beautiful " In the core" is one of my favourites |
Kurt Stephan
Member Username: Slothbert
Post Number: 1576 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 08:06 pm: | |
Jeff (and others), you mentioned "To Reach Me." A question I've long had that I haven't seen discussed: are the chorus backing vocals by Lindy? Honestly, they're the one thing I don't care for much in the song...the backing vocal part seems to cry out for Grant, but I don't think it's him (or at least not on a good day). |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 774 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 08:29 pm: | |
Kurt, that's totally Grant on "To Reach Me." I'd bet my first born (if I ever have one) on it. I also like those backing vocals, too. They seem fitting to me, I guess. |
Elizabeth Robinson
Member Username: Liz_the_new_listener
Post Number: 121 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 04:52 am: | |
Fellows - I love 'To Reach Me' - as I do all LB - and that's got to be Grant on the backing vocals, with all his charm. Got a question for you - did Grant sing the chorus of 'On My Block' on Before Hollywood? (Which is growing on me lately; I love the angularity so typical of Robert's work.) |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 1404 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 05:57 pm: | |
I never read the lyrics; the printed word kills the magic. I thought it was "hold me just like a girl." I guess I should put this in the mistaken lyric thread. |
Georgina Sheils
Member Username: Georgina
Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 08:38 am: | |
Hey all I have just been listening to 'Before Hollywood' and i must say im very impressed. Although i don't know all of the songs yet...i am very excited to be delving further into their music. Ive just had a huge weekend, no sleep...now i will go and chill out, got the Go-Bs on in the background. x x x |
Dr Girlfriend
Member Username: Doctor_girlfriend
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 06:10 pm: | |
hi, I'm new to this board but I love the Go-betweens! my favorite album is Tallulah but my favorite song right now is Quiet Heart. it still hurts that Grant isn't here to make more songs like that. I'm glad theres a place like this were we can talk about this wonderful group. |
Little Keith
Member Username: Manosludge
Post Number: 2410 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 07:33 pm: | |
Welcome aboard, good Dr.! I think you'll find this to a pretty agreeable place and that we all share your sentiments about Grant. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 786 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 08:05 pm: | |
Welcome echoed...nice screen name, too. Is there a story behind it? |
Dr Girlfriend
Member Username: Doctor_girlfriend
Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 10:49 pm: | |
thanks guys, it's nice to be here. I watch too much tv, somebody will figure out where my name comes from. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 788 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 11:08 pm: | |
The only thing I can guess is Grey's Anatomy...haven't seen it, but have friends who like it, and it sounds like something that might turn up there... |
Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 313 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 09:25 am: | |
Welcome aboard, Georgina & Dr G! This place needs a little oestrogen.. Dr G, I cheated (google's useful that way). I've never seen the show, as I don't have cable. I'm taking a guess it's one of those cult classics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Girl friend |
Cristóvăo Gomes
Member Username: Portuguesefan
Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 01:26 pm: | |
No one said the obvious!!!!! Rock´n´roll friend. Wow what a great song that is. and there is that one that has the most beautiful lines ever sang in popular music «When the rain hits the roof With the sound of a finished kiss Like a lip lifted from a lip...». Who can guess wich song this is taken from? |
Dr Girlfriend
Member Username: Doctor_girlfriend
Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 03:43 pm: | |
the "Wrong Road'"? i listened to that album just last night! |
Cristóvăo Gomes
Member Username: Portuguesefan
Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 04:03 pm: | |
that is just right....What an awesome album...my personal favorite... |
Adam Gibbs
Member Username: Adam_gibbs
Post Number: 4 Registered: 09-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 04:46 pm: | |
I have been listening to Live On Snap this week and love the version of Bye Bye Pride - really forceful and urgent - and Bow Down is just sensational, Amanda's violin flourishes on the chorus send the song into orbit. I don't think I could ever love another band as much as I do the Go-Betweens! |
frank bascombe
Member Username: Frankb
Post Number: 198 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 09:41 pm: | |
Was Anything I could Do-this came on random play and forgot how good it was it seems to get forgotton sandwiched towards the end of 16LL |