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kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1937 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 07:54 pm: | |
....heres something to chew over http://music.guardian.co.uk/1000albums |
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kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1938 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 07:58 pm: | |
Interesting they go for Tallulah Some days I might agree with them, most days though its Before H'wood |
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C Gull
Member Username: C_gull
Post Number: 88 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 08:24 pm: | |
more interesting, how can anyone feel motivated to write such an article! |
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Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 838 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 08:30 pm: | |
Yeah, I don't get the Tallulah mention. To me Liberty Belle has always been their best. But BH and 16LL seem to get considerably more praise (from critics and fans alike) than Tallulah normally does. So yeah, I don't get it. Noticed a few crappy contemporary albums by bands who it seems should be forgotten about in 5 years time. I mean, The Good, the Bad, and the Queen? Please. And The Hold Steady? ugh.. I guess 1000 slots is a lot to fill, but geez... Lots of comps too, which is understandable in some instances, but "On Broadway" by the Clash? That just seems a bit lazy. Nice to see John Cooper Clark's "Snap, Crackle & Bop" get a mention, as well as Colin Blunstone's awesome "One Year." |
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Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 1067 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 09:39 pm: | |
Tallulah's my favorite GBs album, so I guess it doesn't seem strange to me they'd give it the nod. I'd have been surprised if they gave the slot to SMAL, but anything else they did would fit nicely in there. I'm just glad they got a mention. And Jeff, as head of paramilitary arm of the Holdy Steady Fan Club, I just want to say: Watch your back, pal. (Why can't I figure out how those damn smiley face things work?) |
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kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1939 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 09:53 pm: | |
Rob, if you type : ) without the space between the : and the ) gives you a ![:-)](http://go-betweens.org.uk/chatroom/clipart/happy.gif) |
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Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 1069 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 10:12 pm: | |
Thanks, Kev. That makes perfectly good sense. Testing... ![:-)](http://go-betweens.org.uk/chatroom/clipart/happy.gif) |
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Catherine Vaughan
Member Username: Catherine
Post Number: 363 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 11:36 am: | |
1000 albums to hear before I die? So far, there's a fair few I'd rather die than ever hear!! Want to kill me? Play Christina Aguilera at full volume while I'm standing at the edge of a cliff - I'll gladly jump to get away from the awful noise! And Jeff, as a recent recruit to the Holdsteady Fan Club, (the political wing, not the paramilitary one) I won't offer any threats, I'll just write a stern letter, and be rather cross with you!! I agree with you about The Good The Bad and The Queen, though. That album should be the subject of an Amnesty International campaign! It could be used as a torture implement. I'm still considering suing Damon Albarn for the hour of my life he ruined, when I listened to that... |
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kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1941 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 12:07 pm: | |
I'd be interested to know how many people who dislike TGTHBATQ are Blur fans. Personally speaking I think TGTHBATQ is the best thing Albarns ever done, save for the odd single (Song 2, Girls and Boys) I though Blur were a big pile of doggy doo. |
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Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 839 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 03:00 pm: | |
I just cannot take anything Albarn does seriously. I always thought Blur were a complete puerile joke, a big pile of doggy doo, as Kevin puts it. Good/Bad/Queen isn't like Blur at all, obviously, but Albarn's involvement kills a good deal of it for me. And, except for some cool bassliness (obviously, given who is playing them), the album just sounds kind of dull and uninspired to me. |
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spence
Member Username: Spence
Post Number: 1930 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 03:11 pm: | |
I think its bollocks too, I just fall asleep when I hear/see Albarn, n the Clash Simonen thing is just - "so what!?" |
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spence
Member Username: Spence
Post Number: 1931 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 03:11 pm: | |
In fact I'm asleep next to XY and kev who have fallen asleep to Nels Cline's noodling!!!!!! ;) |
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Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 739 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 03:43 pm: | |
I think the 1st Gorillaz album's pretty good & something of an improvement on the The Archies format. That list is something of an anomaly which is the best thing about it. Everyone's going to have a different opinion on it so there is no definitive version. I mean, no Babybird, but Babyface, that's where I clicked off. If anything I suppose Babyface did start his own genre that of 'Soul Destroying'. |
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Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 1438 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 04:02 pm: | |
Well, I'm too lazy at the moment to look at the whole thing. Their inclusion of Christina's "Sleep It Off" is inspired. Coincidentally, while having one of my bouts of insomnia last night I was thinking that "Tallulah" may hold the single strongest set of Robert Forster songs, so I can definitely appreciate the choice. But we all know how this changes . . . . David Crosby? Please . . . . |
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Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 741 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 04:14 pm: | |
Yeah, RF was on an almighty roll on Tallulah, both singing & writing. Amanda took his words & music closer & closer to that indefinable glory. |
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Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 841 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 04:56 pm: | |
Yeah, I would agree, Robert turned out some great tunes for Tallulah. My only gripe is Spirit of a Vampire - I've certainly warmed up to it over the years, but there's something about the way it's played, its execution, that just sounds stilted, awkward. His other Tallulah songs are flawless, imo. Ultimately, I think it's Grant's Cut it Out that tends to leave a bad taste in peoples' mouths. And for me his contributions on Tallulah are weaker overall, very chart-conscious/accessible. But I *love* Someone Else's Wife - a beautiful, rich, melodic gem. That song always sends chills up my spine. |
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Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 914 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 05:05 pm: | |
Any list that has Christina Aguilera and no Robyn Hitchcock or Allman Brothers cannot be taken seriously. Plus they have Walking Wounded by Everything But The Girl. I can name a 1/2 dozen better EBTG albums. Regarding Tallulah, ever since the double disc remasterd reissue it's become a favorite of mine. |
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Rob Brookman
Member Username: Rob_b
Post Number: 1071 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 05:06 pm: | |
I had a chance to peruse the list last night and I think Jerry's right - its idiosyncrasy is the best thing about it. There are some inspired choices and a lot of absolute head-scratchers, which fall into two categories: Bands that should never have been included (for those who don't know, your life will actually be better having never heard A-ha) and odd choices by classic artists (Joni Mitchell's "The Hissing of Summer Lawns"). That said, there's a nice smattering of African music. And I thank them for including "New Day Rising." |
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kevin
Member Username: Kevin
Post Number: 1943 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 05:17 pm: | |
These lists are probably not aimed at the likes of us, more likely to be aimed at younger people in the process of building a collection. Speaking personally, on the back of almost 4 decades of pretty much devouring pop culture I reckon that if I dont have an album on lists like this its because I have no interest in it. If I was in my teens or early 20s I might pick up some pointers from this type of list. |
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Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 742 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 05:49 pm: | |
That's spot on Kevin. Older generations would have picked up on essential listening via John Peel & the weekly music papers. There was a book on sale in HMV a while back along the same lines & funnily enough all the recomendations were available at a reduced price. It wasn't limited to one record per artist like the blog in question. Which is where a lot of discrepencies arise. It's not so difficult to pick out an essential Television LP as a Dylan or Neil Young effort. |
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spence
Member Username: Spence
Post Number: 1934 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 06:08 pm: | |
I dunno, what kind of young person, 17-25 say, is gonna but the Guardian? Let alone read it. I never read a paper until I was 30. All muy music was word of mouth a s a kid. Maybe its changed I suppose. For me these lists are like the crappy best 100 films of all time ety, its mopney (for juorno's) old rope. Its just a nother useless list. Yes ok, some clever journo's have some cool albums in there, but the biog on each album is next to useless, I'd want know more if I was spending my heard earned (nae given) beer.drugs money on CD's etc. |
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joe
Member Username: Dogmansuede
Post Number: 342 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 01:41 am: | |
a-ha are perversely underrated...they just struggle to find a market between the two camps that had ridigly established themselves by the end of the 80s. sweeping? check our scoundrel days sometime. |