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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 12:49 am:   

Walt Whitman

W.B. Yeats

Rumi

Whoever it was wrot the limerick about the man from Nantucket
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spence
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Post Number: 2202
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 10:08 am:   

Mark E. Smith

Nick Currie. (Momus).
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 969
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 05:23 pm:   

Allen Ginsberg

Bassho

Percy Shelley
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andreas
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Post Number: 588
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 07:27 pm:   

Friedrich Hölderlin

Kurt Schwitters
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spence
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Post Number: 2203
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 07:46 pm:   

Oh forgot..

Robert burns, Caroline Trettine, Ivor Cutler and I like William Burroughs, and Gerard Langley too.
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Catherine Vaughan
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Post Number: 419
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 07:45 am:   

Raymond Carver

And maybe Oscar Wilde, if it wasn't for his fascination with pomegranates...
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 171
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 10:31 am:   

Burns, McCaig, Burnside, Gunn, Heaney, Tennyson, Gurney, Wilbur, Logue, Montale, Transtromer, Auden.
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David Gagen
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 11:05 am:   

Blake, Hopkins, Yeats, TS Elliot, Ginsberg, Bukowski, Henry Lawson, Slessor, Plath, Patti Smith.
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Wilson Davey
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 04:34 pm:   

John Cooper Clarke and Kahlil Gibran
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1080
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 05:09 pm:   

Ginsberg, Rimbaud, that bastard Pound, the usual suspects, plus Cathal Coughlan.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 172
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   

I forgot Robert Lowell!

Pity the planet, all joy gone
from this sweet volcanic cone;
peace to our children when they fall
in small war on the heels of small
war – until the end of time
to police the earth, a ghost
orbiting forever lost
in our monotonous sublime.

Sorry, Mr Lowell.
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spence
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Post Number: 2205
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 06:24 pm:   

that's a sad one...
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andreas
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Post Number: 589
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 07:28 pm:   

Bob Dylan
Dylan Thomas

and wilson, it's great that you mention john cooper clarke. and jeff, for sure arthur rimbaud must be mentioned, too.

btw: as I said in my previous posting friedrich hölderlin is one of my favourite poets and here is my my favourite poem of him:

Hälfte des Lebens

Mit gelben Birnen hänget
Und voll mit wilden Rosen
Das Land in den See,
Ihr holden Schwäne,
Und trunken von Küssen
Tunkt ihr das Haupt
Ins heilignüchterne Wasser.

Weh mir, wo nehm´ ich, wenn
Es Winter ist, die Blumen, und wo
Den Sonnenschein,
Und Schatten der Erde ?
Die Mauern stehn
Sprachlos und kalt, im Winde
Klirren die Fahnen.


Half of Life

With its yellow pears
And wild roses everywhere
The shore hangs into the lake,
O gracious swans,
And drunk with kisses
You dip your heads
In the sobering holy water.

Ah, where will I find
Flowers, come winter,
And where the sunshine
And shade of the earth ?
Walls stand cold
And speechless, in the wind
The wheathervanes creak.
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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 07:54 pm:   

Dang thats nice, Andraes.

I fergot to mention another poet I like, James Wright. Here's one of his pomes that's really special:

A Blessing


Just off the highway to Rochester, Minnesota,
Twilight bounds softly forth on the grass.
And the eyes of those two Indian ponies
Darken with kindness.
They have come gladly out of the willows
To welcome my friend and me.
We step over the barbed wire into the pasture
Where they have been grazing all day, alone.
They ripple tensely, they can hardly contain their happiness
That we have come.
They bow shyly as wet swans. They love each other.
There is no loneliness like theirs.
At home once more, they begin munching the young tufts of spring in the darkness.
I would like to hold the slenderer one in my arms,
For she has walked over to me
And nuzzled my left hand.
She is black and white,
Her mane falls wild on her forehead,
And the light breeze moves me to caress her long ear
That is delicate as the skin over a girl's wrist.
Suddenly I realize
That if I stepped out of my body I would break
Into blossom.

James Wright
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 08:53 am:   

Exists another pop rock message board as literate as we??

Whose translation was that, Andreas? Holderlin is one of those enormous central figures I've shied away from, but I must look around for a selection...
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 174
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 09:02 am:   

And here's some McCaig...

SOUNDS OF THE DAY

When a clatter came,
It was horses crossing the ford.
When the air creaked, it was
A lapwing seeing us off the premises
Of its private marsh. A snuffling puff
Ten yards from the boat was the tide blocking,
Unblocking a hole in a rock.
When the black drums rolled, it was water
Falling sixty feet into itself.

When the door
Scraped shut, it was the end
Of all the sounds there are.

You left me
Beside the quietest fire in the world.

I thought I was hurt in my pride only,
Forgetting that,
When you plunge your hand in freezing water,
You feel
A bangle of ice around your wrist
Before the whole hand goes numb.
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spence
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Post Number: 2206
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 09:19 am:   

Thought I'd lower the tone...since Wilson reminded me of Johnny Clarke, whom I have seen live many times, you should see the devastation under the glasses, anyway, one of my faves by him is Hire Car,it really must be heard as well as read to get its full impact:
Hire Car.

double park - don't lock the door
push the pedals through the floor
give it loads and then some more
it's a hire car baby

grip the stick - grind the gears
watch that distance disappear
never yours in a thousand years
it's a hire car baby

hire-car, hire-car
why would anybody buy a car?
bang it, prang it, say ta ta
it's a hire car baby

bad behaviour on the street
save yourself a couple of sheets
collision rate keeps it sweet
it's a hire car baby

show this motor no respect
bump it, dump it, call collect
what else do the firm expect
it's a hire car baby

drive the fu*ker anywhere
just like you don't care
put it down to wear and tear
it's a hire car baby

pray the person who hired it last
didn't drive it quite so fast
this dakarum dodgem doesn't last
it's a hire car baby

try not to kill yourself
or injure anybody else
don't forget to fasten your belts
rent it, dent it, bang it, prang it
bump it, dump it, scorch it, torch it
crash and burn it, don't return it
lost deposit, let 'em earn it
who cares, it's on the firm
it's a hire car baby
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 347
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 10:01 am:   

Since this IS a message board dedicated to an Australian band....
Kenneth Slessor...
...but I still love Colridge, Yeats and Keats!!!
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 348
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 10:02 am:   

...Kilbey's not bad either IMHO.
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spence
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Post Number: 2207
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 10:53 am:   

Next morning came as mornings do, I had a shave it was close too.
A close shave.
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David Gagen
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 11:36 am:   

Nick Cave and Tom Waits, poets extraodinaire IMHO
Dylan of course.

5 Bells by Kenneth Slessor is perhaps my fav Aus poem. Fell in love with poesy when I first read Kubla Khan by Coleridge in my teens. The Waste Land by TS Elliot truly amazes me. The Beats fascinate me. Read some poems by Dave Graney lately that are hilarious. Getting into slam poetry lately which is a real buzz.

Music and poetry- 2 of the loves of my life.
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spence
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Post Number: 2208
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   

Agree David, Cave and Waits are quite extraordinary, and completely unique.

Graney, is an astonishing songwriter. he's actually got something to say, all of the above, are dangerous, and he's dangerous too. Pete Docherty isn't dangerous, get me?
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Duncan Hurwood
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 01:39 pm:   

Of the living people I prefer Simon Armitage.

Of the dead ones I like many, especially the Romantics, and I don't think I could express a preference.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1074
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   

As I Walked Out One Evening
by W. H. Auden


As I walked out one evening,
Walking down Bristol Street,
The crowds upon the pavement
Were fields of harvest wheat.

And down by the brimming river
I heard a lover sing
Under an arch of the railway:
'Love has no ending.

'I'll love you, dear, I'll love you
Till China and Africa meet,
And the river jumps over the mountain
And the salmon sing in the street,

'I'll love you till the ocean
Is folded and hung up to dry
And the seven stars go squawking
Like geese about the sky.

'The years shall run like rabbits,
For in my arms I hold
The Flower of the Ages,
And the first love of the world.'

But all the clocks in the city
Began to whirr and chime:
'O let not Time deceive you,
You cannot conquer Time.

'In the burrows of the Nightmare
Where Justice naked is,
Time watches from the shadow
And coughs when you would kiss.

'In headaches and in worry
Vaguely life leaks away,
And Time will have his fancy
To-morrow or to-day.

'Into many a green valley
Drifts the appalling snow;
Time breaks the threaded dances
And the diver's brilliant bow.

'O plunge your hands in water,
Plunge them in up to the wrist;
Stare, stare in the basin
And wonder what you've missed.

'The glacier knocks in the cupboard,
The desert sighs in the bed,
And the crack in the tea-cup opens
A lane to the land of the dead.

'Where the beggars raffle the banknotes
And the Giant is enchanting to Jack,
And the Lily-white Boy is a Roarer,
And Jill goes down on her back.

'O look, look in the mirror,
O look in your distress:
Life remains a blessing
Although you cannot bless.

'O stand, stand at the window
As the tears scald and start;
You shall love your crooked neighbour
With your crooked heart.'

It was late, late in the evening,
The lovers they were gone;
The clocks had ceased their chiming,
And the deep river ran on.
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andreas
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Post Number: 591
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 05:05 pm:   

stuart, here you can find some translations of friedrich hölderlin's poem:

http://home.att.net/%7Eholderlin/index.h tml

more info resp. a chronology of his life in english (his life is as much interesting as his poems):

http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/archive/hoel d3.htm
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Wilson Davey
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Post Number: 185
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 07:35 pm:   

A hill of little shoes by Clive James is possibly the saddest poem ever written IMHO.
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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   

This is a sad one by John Updike, that underachiever who also writes pomes:

Dog's Death

She must have been kicked unseen or brushed by a car.
Too young to know much, she was beginning to learn
To use the newspapers spread on the kitchen floor
And to win, wetting there, the words, "Good dog!
Good dog!"

We thought her shy malaise was a shot reaction.
The autopsy disclosed a rupture in her liver.
As we teased her with play, blood was filling her skin
And her heart was learning to lie down forever.

Monday morning, as the children were noisily fed
And sent to school, she crawled beneath the youngest's bed.
We found her twisted and limp but still alive.
In the car to the vet's, on my lap, she tried

To bite my hand and died. I stroked her warm fur
And my wife called in a voice imperious with tears.
Though surrounded by love that would have upheld her,
Nevertheless she sank and, stiffening, disappeared.

Back home, we found that in the night her frame,
Drawing near to dissolution, had endured the shame
Of diarrhoea and had dragged across the floor
To a newspaper carelessly left there. Good dog.
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Wilson Davey
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   

....about the Holocaust," he said. "It's called A Hill of Little Shoes, and it's based on those photographs that came out of the extermination camps after World War II, those enormous heaps of children's shoes.

A HILL OF LITTLE SHOES

I live in the shadow of a hill
A hill of little shoes
I love but I shiver with a chill
A chill I never lose
I live, I love, but where are they?
Where are their lives, their loves?
All blown away
And every little shoe's a foot that never grew another day

If you could find a pair
And put them on the floor
Make a mark in the air
Like the marks beside your door
When you were growing
You'd see how tall they were

And the buckles and the laces
They could do up on their own
Or almost could
With their tongue tips barely showing
Tell you how small they were

And then you think of little faces
Looking fearfully alone
And how they stood
In their bare feet being tall for the last time
Just to be good
And that was all they were

They were like you in the same year
But you grew up
They were scarcely even here
Before they suddenly weren't there
And while you got dressed for bed
They did the same but they were led
Into another room instead

I live in the shadow of a hill
A hill of little shoes
I love, but I shiver with a chill
A chill I never lose
And I caught this cold
When I was chosen to grow old
In the shadow of a hill of little shoes
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 349
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 05:47 am:   

David McComb too.
And John Lennon - especially "Good Dog Nigel"!
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 350
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 05:53 am:   

Spence, what about:
Don't you always get what you ask for?
Don't you always ask for what you get.

or

It's an exquisite corpse and its lips are red, and it's teeth are glistening.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1077
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 04:13 pm:   

I forgot to mention that a snippet of the above W. H. Auden poem As I Walked Out One Evening made a guest appearance in the movie Before Sunrise, one of my favorite movies by the way.
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Rob Brookman
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Post Number: 1112
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 04:39 pm:   

Oh, man, that Updike poem made me a little weepy.
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 974
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 05:36 pm:   

Not to take anything away from the sentiments in the poem, especially since I've admired Updike for a long time, but I do have to say that that little bit of anthropomorphism near the end (a pet peeve of mine) lessens it just slightly: dogs don't feel shame at diarrhea...shame (especially about such things) is entirely a human thing.
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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 05:50 pm:   

I had the same thought too, Mr. Allen, but thought that at the same time everything else sentimental about the pome comes from antrhormop, anthromoprism, ah f__k it, that thing your talking about. Its all about transferring human feelings onto dogs - the whole good dog thing. Im sure the dog dont understand the concept of good and bad. Its the same thing when my dog McHaggis wags his tail when he sees me. I think its love but hes probably just thinking yippee Im gonna get fed!
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fsh
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   

Thomas Kinsella
Patrick Kavanagh

the metaphysical poets

... off the school curriculum ...
... many years ago ...

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