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     Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 124 Registered: 05-2005 |
Saw this in a charity shop in Hammersmith just now - has four songs (I Just Get Caught Out by the GBs, recorded exclusively for Sounds it said on the picture sleeve, plus tracks from The Fall, The Adult Net and The Cult) and is dated 1987. Excitedly, I got my 50p ready and, just to check, removed the single from the sleeve to reveal... a single by Go West. Have I missed out narrowly on something really rare? (and possibly worth some money?) | ||
| Matsrep Member Username: Matsrep Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2005 |
I have that 7". I recall that it is an early/demo version of the song. That version of the song is possibly also on the 2nd cd of the Tallulah reissue (I'll have to check it out when I get home). | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 125 Registered: 05-2005 |
are you missing the sleeve? If so, it's in Hammersmith! | ||
| Catherine Vaughan Member Username: Catherine Post Number: 447 Registered: 05-2005 |
Just think, some saddo who purchased what they thought was a Go West single has picked up something amazing! Lets just hope it converts them into a Go Betweens fan! | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 126 Registered: 05-2005 |
I'm now the world's biggest Go West fan | ||
| Catherine Vaughan Member Username: Catherine Post Number: 448 Registered: 05-2005 |
Someone's got to be, I suppose. Although, it might make a good coaster too.. | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 131 Registered: 05-2005 |
I didn't buy it, Catherine, but if you're in need of a coaster.... | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2436 Registered: 05-2005 |
I remember those set of 7 inch releases, the covers were always crap, duotone blue halftones of the groups adorned the sleeves, though in fairness, the vinyl often contained a slightly different, nae, as you say, possibly rare version of a song you'd already been aquanted with. I doubt its worth anything other than a sentimental sigh... | ||
| Catherine Vaughan Member Username: Catherine Post Number: 449 Registered: 05-2005 |
Peter, to be honest, I probably would have bought it anyway, just for the cover, dodgy Go West single or not (now who's the saddo?!) As it is, I've got a fair few "coasters" lurking in my collection! | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 133 Registered: 05-2005 |
I might just nip in there and get it, leaving the Go West single. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 835 Registered: 08-2004 |
How disappointing I hate it when that happens. The complete single isn't that valuable or rare if ebay is anything to go by. Of course there's sentimental value which is worth so much more. | ||
| fsh Member Username: Fsh Post Number: 189 Registered: 05-2005 |
That version of 'I just get caught out' is on the re-re-release of Tallulah on the bonus disc (which I haven't yet bothered to buy). Something I did bother to buy about fifteen years ago was an Elvis LP from Woolworths in Newry, northern ireland. By the time I had smuggled it across the border the vinyl interior had metamorphosed into a copy of the Final Countdown by Europe. Speaking of which ... the Lisbon Treaty is up for graps in a week and the irish are they only country standing between soveignity and the eurocratic elite who are attempting to pick our soveign pockets. Why else wouldn't they give the French and Dutch a referendum this time 'round? They even had the audacity to rename the European Constitution rejected by aforementioned French and Dutch - it's called the 'Lisbon' Treaty now - right!? Weren't the British promised a referendum vote on Lisbon prior to the last election by the Labour Party - what happened to that ? ... maybe they renamed it to ... a parlimentary vote. Anyhow, it's shaping up to be a tight vote. Ireland could yet be the toast rather than the Whipping boys of Europe - (the toast of the disenfranchised French, Dutch and British voters for a start) if the Lisbon treaty is rejected by referendum. The 'yes'es were ahead up to now but apparently the 'no's' have pipped them in the latest opinion poll. The Eurocratic elite in Brussels ... or should that read Strasbourg ... mightn't be too happy if the Treaty is rejected in an Irish referendum but I'm sure they'll still be able to claim exorbidant unvouched expenses for their low fare un-unionised air travel. Anyhow, you don't need someone who like me to tell you and all the friends, acquaintances, relations you can muster, and even people you don't know or like what to do ... They're not 'Jacques Delores' the current crop of Eurocrats - I'm not sure I'd trust them so well. | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 60 Registered: 08-2005 |
It's not that rare and comes up on eBay pretty regularly for not much cash - I paid a couple of quid for mine in a shop in Camden years ago. | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 135 Registered: 05-2005 |
Fsh, I always say that the type of people I regularly meet who are against the EU tend to turn my head in favour of it. No offence meant to you (whom I don't know of course) | ||
| C Gull Member Username: C_gull Post Number: 92 Registered: 05-2005 |
So has anyone else bought a record by mistake? Many moons ago (I think I was 11), I went into Boots to buy my brother a birthday present - Like Clockwork by The Boomtown Rats. Somehow I picked up White Man in Hammersmith Palais by mistake and gave this to him only realising this when he unwrapped it. I can only put this down to divine intervention. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1249 Registered: 10-2004 |
I remember scoring (or at least thinking I had) a nice copy of Felt's "Crumbling..." on vinyl, only to realize once I got it home that inside was some French disco record. I took it back right away. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2442 Registered: 05-2005 |
I seem to remember that Creation Records, always mixing up their artsists vinyl. When I worked at Virgin, The Cartel or one of the distribitution boxes wold always have truck loads of Creation stuff, and you'd always find a Bounty Hunters vinyl in a Biff Bang pow sleeve =and vice versa. | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 142 Registered: 05-2005 |
I got a vinyl version of Hippopotamomus by Momus that was warped, took it back but couldn't get a replacement. They didn't tell me why. Turned out they'd been threatened with legal action because of an unauthorised use of the Michelin Man on the cover. If I'd kept the warped one, I'd have had a rarity I think. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 2120 Registered: 05-2005 |
Off the top of my head, in over 30 years of buying music I cannot think of taking an album home to find the wrong LP or CD inside the packaging. Given that I must have bought 1000s of albums in this time, and given the industry we are talking about (nudge nudge,wink wink) that is pretty miraculous | ||
| Ewan Talisker McEwan Member Username: Ewan_mcewan Post Number: 199 Registered: 02-2008 |
I once bought a Leonard Cohen album which, though the label said it was Cohen, turned out to be a Dolly fecking Parton record! Discerning listener that I am, I recognized this right away. The bloke behind the counter at the record shop took it back cheerfully, maintaining it'd be some kind of collector's item, but I'm thinking that was none too likely... | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1076 Registered: 09-2006 |
I can recall only one similar incident, which also involved a record on the Columbia label...even though it means having to admit that as a kid I once bought a Chicago album. It was a double album and three of the sides were indeed Chicago, but the fourth was all by some instrumental synth band...I knew it wasn't right because it was the side that the hits were supposed to be on. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2443 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yes peter Hippopotamomus was pulled. I wonder if it is worth anything now. I suppose to collector's of Momus stuff it is. Mind you they'd probablyhave it anyways. I have in my posession a really nice Momus rarity. Its a white label of The Beast with 3 backs. Its signed in the centre of the record by Nick and on the outside no colour sleeve, but a paper inner, and Nick drew the sleeve in his own hand, and then wrote me a letter on the other side. Again, all signed. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1158 Registered: 08-2006 |
A friend of mine once returned from one of our much-anticipated CD shopping trips with a new copy of Springsteen's "Darkness..." only to find a Julio Iglesias CD inside. Oh, cruel fate. | ||
| Ted Member Username: Ted Post Number: 10 Registered: 01-2005 |
I once intended to buy African & White by China Crisis, but ended up with My Spine is the Bass Line by Shriekback instead. Quite good in an 80s sort of way. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2444 Registered: 05-2005 |
Ted didn't the my spine actual cover have a snake on some sand dune? I think I may have it if you want it lol! | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 143 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence, I can't help thinking that Nick Currie thinks he's gone off down some Scott Walker-esque line of artistic freedom, without actually making any 'good' stuff in recent years. Any views? | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1250 Registered: 10-2004 |
Peter, I know your question was directed at Spence, but seeing as I'm a fan of Momus' (earlier) work, I have some pretty strong opinions about it, too. Personally, I think Momus really is a sharp and talented guy, but that he really hasn't had any good musical ideas in years. Instead, he's become too conceptual. A lot of his albums over the past ~10 years have been so concept driven that it almost seems like an attempt to mask a lack of solid musical ideas. He's even said in recent interviews that he's board with making music and is much more interested in visual and conceptual art projects that he's been involved in. And to me, when you hear the music he's been doing lately, his lack of interest really shows. I think Momus might be better off leaving music and throwing all his energy into what he's truly passionate about. And since you mentioned Scott Walker, I think he should just admit that he's become good at creating spooky soundtrack music for horror or art films and that he should move into that line of work. His artsy noodlings might be more effective in that context! | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 145 Registered: 05-2005 |
Ah, but I like Scott's artsy noodlings, whereas Momus's stuff seems to be whimsy. He was actually stronger with more conventional tunes. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1252 Registered: 10-2004 |
Peter I agree with you as far as Momus' recent music being too whimsical (and flimsy, imho). And yes, he was definitely stronger when it was just and an acoustic guitar, playing weird, dark, jazz-chorded folk tunes with wordy lyrics about sex, depravity, and the bible. The early synth-pop dabblings (Tender Pervert) were great, too. As for Walker, I really can't get into his recent work. I just don't have the patience for it. For me, Walker is all about albums 1-4. The only thing that recent Walker and recent Momus have in common for me is that I don't like the music and don't buy the albums. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2445 Registered: 05-2005 |
I agree with most of what Jeff says re Momus. He's really shifted over time into what he does best, a professional, well seasoned blogger! I remember seeing Nick play an early gig as part of a Creation Records evening in '87. After the night had ended, and I had finsihed hugging everyone in the place, from Donald Ross Skinner to Jeff Barrett of Heavanly Records, I ended up talking Momus to this girl. And she said, what did you think? And I said, it was great to see him live, he was nervous, but I was a fan and I knew him so it meant a lot to see him perform. She said that it was a shame he'd moved on with his musical style. This was the time of The Poison Boyfriend his second lp, his first Circus maximus was released barely a year before, and she was pissed he'd ditched the acoustic style in favour of the electronic instrumentation. And with that she thought the songs were wishy washy. I had to disagree. I liked the PB LP. To me Momus, is a bit like Bowie (Nick was a big fan), in that he was born to change, develop, experiment with each album, in a way he lulled his ealy fans into a world of false sense of Momusecurity, it was all too nice and safe, then once he went to Creation, he developed at the speed of sound. He was always destined to get people's back up. that was/is Momus. I adore Scott, and I can take or leave his recent stuff, but now and again i'll dip in. The Electrician is still a work of utter musical genius. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1253 Registered: 10-2004 |
Spence, I agree, Momus thrived on reinventing himself, much like Bowie. And I'll even admit that I think Nick kept his career pretty interesting with the ongoing evolution/reinvention up until around Timelord. Oh, and back to Scott Walker for a second: I should add that I also quite like "Climate of Hunter." | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2446 Registered: 05-2005 |
Momus' Voyager album, was way ahead of its time, and yes i think Timelord was his last best offering. | ||
| Matsrep Member Username: Matsrep Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2005 |
Regarding Momus later work, I was pleasantly surprised by his 2006 album, Ocky Milk, also called (approx.) the friendly album. Meaning: songs, not too much of remix/conceptuality etc. I guess that you could play it to any fan of the 80s work and make them like it. - All you sceptics: do listen to it. There are a couple of videos on youtube where you could start. (And yes: I agree that the first albums were the best ones and the ideas/concepts have taken over later on. His blog is brilliant of course.) (I once witnessed Momus in a three stages/phases show in Helsinki, in 1994 I think. First a brilliant lecture, then the film Tender Pervert in the afternoon, then a live thing in the evening: too bad most stuff was pre-recorded, with Nick and a drummer on stage. For one song he let the computer rest, and it worked very fine. - Conclusion: lecture 5 stars, film 4 stars, live 3,5 stars.) | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 146 Registered: 05-2005 |
Momus's best period was around Tender Perverts, Voyager, Hippopotamomus. Of course, everyone should change, but I find his later stuff simply irritating, whereas Scott's is fascinating. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2450 Registered: 05-2005 |
Peter , yeas I agree my faveourite period isa syou state. However, one thing that I admire Nick and his work for is the true originality of everything he does. He's never ripped anyone off, and he sounds like no other. From The Happy Family, through to Ocky Milk, there's only Momus who could have delivered this work. | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 28 Registered: 05-2005 |
Happy Family were a Josef K rip-off/homage by Nick Currie's own admittance, however I am otherwise in agreement.Momus is a true original and inspiring artist but the biggest mistake he ever made was putting down his guitar (which he was still playing on Poison Boyfriend Spence as well as on Tender Pervert). | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2451 Registered: 05-2005 |
er, The Happy Family were Josef K, their rhythm section, they sound pretty much nothing like Josef K. | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 29 Registered: 05-2005 |
I wasnt aware of the line-up but that would make sense as the single I have on 4AD sounds pretty much exactly like Josef K | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 2452 Registered: 05-2005 |
nick currie in '80/81 was in absolute awe of josef k and howard devoto. he knew the band. they split, then he passed a tape to malcolm ross, who suggested the rhythm section give it a go at playing nick's songs, they clicked, then off he went. in many ways, were it not for malcolm ross, momus wouldn't be where he is today, and he knows that and has always been eternally grateful. |