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     lindy morrison Member Username: Lindymorrison Post Number: 32 Registered: 09-2004 |
A while ago people were discussing these two bootlegs. The Bradford live footage - early 80's -(subsequently used in Cattle and Cane video) came about because whenever any band played in that Bradford venue they filmed the event. They had a fixed video camera. We found the tape in a Camden market and then used it for Cattle and Cane. Later Bob our manager negotiated with bootleggers Visionary to put it out. I think we paid a few hundred pound for that. Very Quick on the Eye were the demos for Send me a Lullaby. They were paid for by Missing Link records. It infuriated me that whenever we toured Europe in the early 80's at every independent record store, there would be copies for sale. In 1994 I was at a conference in Melbourne and drunkenly standing chatting to Keith Glass who ran Missing Link in the eighties our first lable (from when I was in the band). Keith Glass had made his name by having a part in Hair -(big in Oz in 1966 or so, I saw the production in Sydney and probably hugged him in the nude "hug the audience" scene, and then later when he became a record entrepeneur he put out Tubular Bells before signing The Birthday Party, I know weird, he's now into country or was when I saw him in Tamworth last year) and I asked him about the bootleg. He said, Lindy everyone knows I put that out. On the spot I negotiated the handover of the tapes for nothing, only 14 years too late. | ||
| Peter Azzopardi Member Username: Pete Post Number: 35 Registered: 09-2004 |
So did you get the tapes back in the end? I ask because on the 2002 Send Me A Lullaby bonus disc it sounds as if they got the demos off a scratchy copy of the LP and digitally polished them up. | ||
| Donat Member Username: Donat Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2004 |
Andrew Wilson's complaint regarding 'Very Quick on the Eye' was that he never got the negatives back from Glass who used his photos for the cover of that record. If you look closely, you can see him in the reflection of the French door holding the camera in the back cover photo. Too much info, I know... | ||
| lindy morrison Member Username: Lindymorrison Post Number: 34 Registered: 09-2004 |
wow is that true about Andrew, of course he never got back the negatives, oh my god that is Andrew taking the photo, brilliant. | ||
| lindy morrison Member Username: Lindymorrison Post Number: 35 Registered: 09-2004 |
yes you are right, no never got the tapes just the rights | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2004 |
Did anyone have a copy of VQOTE that wasn't scratchy? I bought mine second hand, the vinyl looked perfect, no jumps but a lot of noise on the recording. Maybe they were all the same. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2004 |
Mine isn't too scratchy. Definitely not hi-fi, but I wouldn't say there's a lot of noise or anything. | ||
| Roger Griffin Member Username: Roger Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2004 |
I bought it when it came out and thought it sounded pretty good considering they were only demos - pretty hissy, but the pressing was good and didn't sound scratchy. I only played it once (to tape) and then it went in the Great Purge. They sound great on the Send Me bonus. I was so happy to hear them again - I love that "innocent" period. | ||
| david nichols Member Username: David Post Number: 38 Registered: 09-2004 |
What constitutes a bootleg? If VQOTE is a bootleg so are half the greatest hits albums and half the reissues of mainstream artists whose for whom recording copyright is vested in the record company. VQOTE was owned by Missing Link; ML sanctioned the release of VQOTE; it is not a bootleg. By this definition all those Decca compilations of the Rolling Stones (like Stone Age) were bootlegs, because the band didn't want them released. Everyone knew Keith Glass put VQOTE out at the time it came out. He also says as much on p. 171 of my GoBs book (current ed.). Apparently the Bradford live video is not a bootleg either, since it too was sanctioned. Not every record that comes out without the artist's permission is a bootleg; in the case of Bradford, it did come out with the artist's permission so it's doubly not a bootleg. There needs to be another word for it. I don't know why I care so much about this. | ||
| william rodgers Member Username: Willyorkpa Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2005 |
Wow- I'm down a few bucks if this is the case! I thank David for clearing this up. I always knew the Bradford video had to be legit, and I felt the Very Quick lp was far too nice a package to be considered "Bootleg". I treasure my originals nonetheless. Will |