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boozebhoy
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Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 08:28 am:   

I'm 100% positive I saw The Go-Betweens at Rooftops, Glasgow, either in late 84' or early 85'. Spring Hill Fair was their most recent album at the time.

Friends of mine where working as roadies for this gig and I managed to get back stage to meet the band.

However this gig seems to be missing from the gigography list.

Anybody else remember this gig?
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Robert Vickers
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Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 11:52 pm:   

Interesting. I'm pretty sure the dates as listed for that period are correct but I think we might have driven up to Glasgow for a one-off show June 22nd 1984 but don't remember what the venue was.

However SHF wouldn't have been released at that time. We had just finished recording it in May.
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peter padden
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Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:40 pm:   

I have done a wee bit of research, well I've spoke to a friend. This gig definately happened. It may have been Late April early May 85' and I think it could have been either a Sunday or Thursday evening.

I went with two friends, one has now passed away whilst the other has unfortunately and sadly became a Teacher.

You where there Robert. I was backstage helping myself to your Rider and trying to impress Lindy, telling her about my Australian Cousins (I was very drunk and very seventeen).

Anyway, how is the cowboy shirt collection these days?
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peter padden
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Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:42 pm:   

I have done a wee bit of research. Well I've spoke to a friend. This gig definately happened. It may have been Late April early May 85' and I think it could have been either a Sunday or Thursday evening.

I went with two friends, one has now passed away whilst the other has unfortunately and sadly became a Teacher.

You where there Robert. I was backstage helping myself to your Rider and trying to impress Lindy, telling her about my Australian Cousins (I was very drunk and very seventeen).

Anyway, how is the cowboy shirt collection these days?
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Robert Vickers
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 03:57 am:   

Hmmm...are you sure it couldn't have been the Rooftops show we played Thu Apr 26th 1986? I have a pretty complete diary for 1985 and I don't think we went to Glasgow the entire year.

Was there even a club called Rooftops in May 1985?

Shirts are all doing fine and occasionally make a surprise appearance.
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Andrew Kerr
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 09:48 am:   

"The Orchids came into existence in 1985, the worst year for so many things, but particularly Pop, ever.....The band decided to change their name, however, after Alan McGee looked at the demo tape handed to him one night at a Go-Betweens show at Rooftops"

http://www.ltmrecordings.com/orchidsbio. html

And the investigation continues...
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Robert Vickers
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   

Elementary my dear Watson.

Yes Andrew, I found that too and for a moment I thought I must have been mistaken. After all it's hard to believe we didn't go to Glasgow at all in 1985. But when I looked more carefully at that story I changed my mind.

'....after Alan McGee looked at the demo tape handed to him one night at a Go-Betweens show at Rooftops and told them that 'Gentle Tuesday' was going to be the Scream's next Creation single. Of course it wasn't, and in fact the song didn't appear until after Bobby and his troupe had gone to the Warners-sponsored disaster that was Elevation'

Okay, so the 'next' Primal Scream single on Creation was going to be Gentle Tuesday so there must have been a single before that. So let's look at the PS discography:

Singles

June 1985 "All Fall Down" Creation
May 1986 "Crystal Crescent" / "Velocity Girl" Creation
June 1987 "Gentle Tuesday" Elevation

I believe this places the Orchid's story in April 86 not April 85 which would have been before their first single was released.
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spence
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 06:55 pm:   

There's also a gig missing from the list when the GB's played Wolverhampton Polytechnic, now University, they were supported by The Weather Prophets. I think it was Spring/Summertime '87. It was the time of Robert and his Warhol hair episode.

Still a great gig list, these things are a mighty challenge at the best of times.
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spence
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 06:57 pm:   

I was there by the way. Robert came down off the stage and performed in front of me as it were. Of course I went red!
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Robert Vickers
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 08:46 pm:   

Wolverhampton was May 6th. A very good show. I should take a look at the 87 discography.
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spence
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 09:48 pm:   

Cheers Robert.
Yes you did 'rock!'. You blew me away.
The sound was always very good there.
The Weather Prophets were superb. I remember Peter Astor had this massive black box foot pedal thingy, he used to stamp on it and he was off soaring the skies with his fender tele.
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peter padden
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Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:31 pm:   

Robert, you may have nailed it. I think it was April 86'.

Thanks for the gig info, but more importantly for providing the cowboy shirt up-date, my primary concern all along.

And in 85' Rooftops was called Nightmoves. Goth Hell!

Peter x
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carl allen
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   

I think a gig at The Works, Colchester is missing from the gig list from sometime around 84/85? I didn't go - well I was about 14 and too young to get in, but I do remember reading the preview in the local paper, and I later met someone who saw them there.
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Robert Vickers
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Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 02:41 pm:   

I feel like I have been to Colchester. I'll look that one up when I'm back in town next week.
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Stephen Harris
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 10:26 pm:   

One gig not missing but never played is Keele 10th Nov 1982. The Daintees and Hurrah played instead. So I first saw them when I hitched down to London to see Orange Juice at the end of March 83 and then did the same journey down a few days later to see them at The Ace in Brixton.
The first time I'd ever heard People Say, possibly the only song that's ever really hit me as an instant classic.
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Simon Withers
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 11:04 pm:   

Also missing is a gig at the Enmore Theatre, Sydney in 1988. Billed as "The Night of Miracles" (I think) it featured The Died Pretty, a hypnotist, a magician who usually played children's parties - that was surreal - and the Go-Betweens. I've got my diaries from 1988 and the flyer/ticket somewhere, so I'm not making it up. It was a great gig, and the hypnotist didn't manage to put me under, though it was quite relaxing...
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Simon Withers
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   

And the GBs also played the Venue in Dee Why, Sydney in 1988, probably some time in the middle of the year. I've got photographs as well, though they're mot that great.

It was a good year to live in Sydney: the Go-Betweens, Ed Kuepper, Paul Kelly, The Triffids (who I saw at the Paddington RSL), Hunters and Collectors, The Headless Chickens (lord knows where I saw them, but I was with a Kiwi friend Kirsty Lunam. That I do remember...). Happy days. And if I'm sounding a bit wistful it's because I turned 46 this week and it all seems both very recent and such a long time ago. Such is life, as Ned Kelly might have said...
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 11:52 pm:   

My brother lived in Sydney for a while in 1988 Simon. I'm certain he would not have seen any of those gigs. He may have seen Jimmy Barnes though!
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Robert Vickers
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Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 10:11 pm:   

Colchester was Apr 13th 1986. If fact almost that whole UK tour is missing from the list there. I'll send Jonathan the missing dates.
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Thomas Keitsch
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Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 11:04 am:   

Missing gig: 1.6.1986- Hamburg ( Markthalle) support: The Triffids

Missing venues for the 2 Hamburg gigs in 83/84:
1983: "Kir"
1984: "Klecks Theatre"

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