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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 535
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 03:13 am:   

Why stop at just songs...

Carnival of Light - Ride
Best of Traffic
Younger than Yesterday - The Byrds
Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys
The Beatles(White Album) - The Beatles
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joe
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Post Number: 675
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 05:07 am:   

carnival of light?!?!?

i really like crown of creation but...wow!
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joe
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 05:11 am:   

new order - technique
soft cell - non stop erotic cabaret
the smiths - strangeways
triffids - calenture
madonna - like a prayer

there are a lot of other records (perhaps even a few not released in the 1980s) that i could rant on and on about, but these would be the five that make me completely wig-out when i think about them for more than a couple of seconds.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 06:34 am:   

Go-Betweens - Liberty Belle
Microdisney - Everybody's Fantastic
Smiths - Meat is Murder
Cocteau Twins - Treasure
Felt - Strange Idols Pattern
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TROU
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Post Number: 213
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 09:46 am:   

Above all : Associates - Affectionated Punch

Go-Betweens - Liberty Belle + Spring Hill Fair
Magazine - Secondhand Daylight + Correct Use of Soap
The Jam - Setting Sons
The Smiths - Hatfull of Hollow
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 327
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 12:23 pm:   

one thing i've noticed over the last few weeks, the amount of love for liberty belle.

and here was me thing 16LL was the supposed masterpiece?
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 328
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 12:24 pm:   

"thinking" not "thing"
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 538
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 01:57 pm:   

"Carnival of Light" was the musical backdrop to a fine year for me - 1994. It accompanied me to Nepal and India for the first time and will be inextricably linked to that experience. Whenever I hear the opening jangle of "1000 Miles", I'm watching the sun set over the Annapurnas for the first time. "I don't know where it comes" from used to annoy the shitter out of my musically challenged (Michael Bolten, Celine Dion...) housemate. Spent many great evenings staring at the wallpaper and watching music become 3 dimensional that year with "Carnival of Light" as my guide.
For me, it's musical homebase.
I loved Ride before that, but for me, this was something else.
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 539
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 02:03 pm:   

If I was going to 10, there would also be Hatful and Meat, Liberty Belle, Born Sandy and Remote Luxury/Persia eps - much like some of you too.
Wow, and I've got 3 Ozzie bands on the list too.
You'd think I was from the place or something...
unless I was Hugh or Randy!
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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 04:20 pm:   

Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St.
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Prince - Sign O' the Times
Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
Gram Parsons - GP
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1693
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 05:16 pm:   

TROU - Associates' "Affectionate Punch" might just be in my top 10! They are a band that keeps improving with age for me.
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andreas
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Post Number: 756
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 06:15 pm:   

maybe

the flying burrito brothers - the gilded palace of sin
beach boys - pet sounds
curtis mayfield - curtis
fun boy three - waiting
captain beefheart and the magic band – shiny beast (bat chain puller)

or maybe not
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spence
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 08:11 pm:   

Associates - Sulk
Love - forever Changes
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Magazine - Secondhand daylight
The Beach Boys - Sunflower/Surfs Up
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joe
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Post Number: 677
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   

meat is murder, liberty belle and born sandy would probably all be in my top ten too. maybe we've more in common than we presumed.

nice list jeff.

and geoff, you've officially made me want to go back and have a listen to carnival of light. i like how some of the tracks sounded on the waves bbc comp. ride have been one of my favourite bands since i was 18, but it's only really smile/nowhere/gba i go for. i was obsessed with going blank again for years, forever trying to convert others over. it never really took... their loss.
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Simon Withers
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 11:33 pm:   

I'll give this some thought, though will probably come up with different ones tomorrow. Good to see The Smiths' Strangeways and Hatful of Hollow; always loved Strangeways.

My 5 today would include;

Submarine Bells - The Chills
Reckoning - REM
Crown of Creation/After Bathing at Baxters - Jefferson Airplane (Cool? That's me!)
Live in London - Go-Betweens (any number of GBs' albums I could list, but that was the last time I saw them and they were great)
Hounds of Love - Kate Bush (could be Never for Ever...)
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2968
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:10 am:   

Kevin, 13 years ago I made a radio program on The Go-Betweens in a classic albums series. We made it about Liberty Belle as that was the general consesus of what was their classic amongst the people we consulted about the show. Someday I'll digitise all these old shows and post them online somewhere. Don't hold your breath though fellas.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 329
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:38 am:   

padraig,yeah I'm not surprised about that, somedays LB is my favourite and I think it has the strongest batch of songs they ever did. But overall I think I prefer BH just because of the impact it had on me when it came out, and it does have C&C on it!!

Maybe its just magazines and webzines that push the 16LL line about it being the so called classic
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:45 am:   

Kev, I think 16LL was kind of viewed as their almost-but-not-quite-breakthrough, and the singles from that album certainly got more radio play than anything before it. Plus, love it or hate it, it's undeniably palatable, so I think it's an easier album for a wider range of people to digest, hence, it tends to get a lot of attention from music critics and the like.

But, if this board is any indicator, serious Go-Betweens fans tend to be all over the map with their favorite album, although LB and BH both seem to get a lot of votes.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 331
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:23 am:   

yep, think you've nailed it jeff.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:56 am:   

Geoff, I love your story about the Ride album. I'm not even sure I've ever heard them but I do tend to have only a limited appetite for the psych revival groups, which I'm guessing they are. Still, your story is great.

If pushed to choose a favorite GoBees album I'll usually choose Liberty Belle. But I'm such a great fan of Robert's work on both SHF and Tallulah that I always feel a little regret when I do so. 16LL is their major label album. I think it's a fine record, but of necessity with a bit of the rougher edges smoothed off. It does a type of thing that I can accept much more readily than can Kevin BUT if they had continued down the same road for the next album it almost certainly would have died of blandness. Robert & Grant seem to have grasped that instinctively, which just goes to show how great they are (were).

I'll have to let this five favourite album thing percolate for some more time.
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 541
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 04:15 am:   

Who me, psyche revival bands?????!!!!
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Stuart Wilson
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 01:35 pm:   

Focus 3 - Focus
Live 69 - Velvet U.
Streetlife - Roxy Music
Hatful of Hollow - Smiths
The Belle Album - Al Green
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 333
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 03:19 am:   

REM - Murmer

Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

Pixies - Doolittle

The Clash - The Clash

David Bowie - Hunky Dory

My logic was that I would pick the 5 records I have played the most in my life, and thats what I came up with.
Parts of the Clash album are dated now, but I wore that album out on vinyl twice and have bought at least 2 versions on CD.
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joe
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 03:22 am:   

good goin' kev. effortlessly great, even.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2973
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 03:56 am:   

We did this elsewhere on this site a few years back but, going with Kevin's most played formula, here goes. As a bonus you get the formats I own them on!

The Chills - Soft Bomb (cassette, CD)

The Waterboys - Fisherman's Blue (vinyl, cassette, two different CD versions)

The Pursuit Of Happiness - Love Junk (cassette, CD)

Pixies - Doolittle (cassette, CD)

Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love (vinyl, CD)
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2974
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 04:01 am:   

I should have checked the archive first... Here's my list from three years ago, including some I realise I've played more than those listed above.

1 The Chills – Soft Bomb
2 The Lemonheads – It’s A Shame About Ray
3 Kate Bush – Hounds Of Love
4 R.E.M. – Murmur
5 The Pursuit Of Happiness – Love Junk
6 The Waterboys – Fisherman’s Blues
7 The Beach Boys – Pet Sounds
8 The Go-Betweens – 16 Lover’s Lane
9 Teenage Fanclub – Bandwagonesque
10 Whipping Boy – Heartworm
11 Mary Margaret O’Hara – Miss America
12 The Posies – Frosting On The Beater
13 The Stone Roses – The Stone Roses
14 Marvin Gaye – What’s Going On
15 The Replacements – All Shook Down
16 Pixies – Doolittle
17 Mercury Rev – Deserter’s Songs
18 Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
19 Husker Du – Zen Arcade
20 My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 334
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 06:28 am:   

I googled the lyrics of Murmer while listening to it at work. Some weird shit goin through Stipes mind back then.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2975
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 07:01 am:   

Kevin, I'm going to have to insist you refer to the album as Murmur, its given name, in future.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 335
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 12:46 pm:   

oh sorry padraig, its WAS the middle of the night, well for me anyway!!
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1590
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   

1. R.E.M. - Murmur
2. The Clash - London Calling
3. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
4. Love - Forever Changes
5. The Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight
6. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains
7. Kate Bush - The Dreaming
8. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
9. Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers
10. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
11. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
12.Derek and the Dominoes - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
13. Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East
14. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
15. Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
16. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane
17. Flying Burrito Brothers - Gilded Palace of Sin
18.Velvet Underground and Nico - Velvet Underground
19. Richard and Linda Thompson - Shoot Out The Lights.
20. Fairport Convention - Unhalfbricking
21. The Triffids - Born Sandy Devotional
22. The Byrds - Younger than Yesterday
23. Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn
24. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
25. The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
26. Peter Gabriel - III (Melting Face)
27. Robert Johnson - The Complete Recordings
28. The Beatles - Rubber Soul
29. Televison - Marquee Moon
30. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
31. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
32. The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
33. Wire - Pink Flag
34. Joni Mitchell - Blue
35. The Chills - Submarine Bells
36. The Replacements - Let It Be
37. The Stooges - Fun House
38. Neu! - Neu! 75
39. Crowded House - Woodface
40. Slowdive - Slovlaki
41. Echo and the Bunneymen - Crocodiles
42. Syd Barrett - Barrett
43. R.E.M. - Reckoning
44. The Go-Betweens - Liberty Belle
45. Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
46. Gene Clark - No Other
47. Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Imperial Bedroom
48. Everything But The Girl - Idelwild
49. Dexter Gordon - Our Man In Paris
50. The Church - Seance
51. Charlie Parker - Parker With Strings
52. The Beatles - Revolver
53. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
54. Bill Evans - Live at the Village Vanguard
55. The Blue Nile - Hats
56. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love
57. The Dream Syndicate - Days of Wine and Roses
58. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town.
59. Bud Powell - The Amazing Bud Powell, Vol. 1
60. Lou Reed - The Blue Mask
61. Aimee Mann - Whatever
62. The Bangles - All Over The Place
63. Everything But The Girl - Idlewild
64. Talking Heads - Fear of Music
65. Peter Gabriel - So
66. Culture - Two Sevens Clash
67. Fleetwood Mac - Then Play On
68. Son Volt - Trace
69. Warren Zevon - Warren Zevon
70. Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane - At Carnegie Hall
71. Let's Active - Cyprus/Afoot
72. Wire - A Bell Is A Cup
73. Kate and Anna McGarrigle - Kate and Anna McGarrigle
74. Emmylou Harris - Red Dirt Girl
75. Jane Siberry - When I Was A Boy
76. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
77. Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express
78. The Byrds - Mr. Tambourine Man
79. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush
80. The Dream Syndicate - Days of Wine and Roses
81. The Au Pairs - Sense and Sensuality
82. Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
83. The Doors - The Doors
84. 10,000 Maniacs - In My Tribe
85. U2 - Achtung Baby
86. Brian Eno - Another Green World
87. The Pretenders - The Predtenders
88. Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel Road
89. The Clash - The Clash
90. Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
91. John Coltrane - Giant Steps
92. Velvet Underground - Velvet Underground
93. The Replacements - Tim
94. Blondie - Parallel Lines
95. The B-52's - The B-52's
96. Pixies - Doolittle
97. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psycho Candy
98. X - Wild Gift
99. Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis
100. Roxy Music - Avalon
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1591
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 07:03 pm:   

Crap, I had EBTG -Idlewild down twice!!!

Revised list:
1. R.E.M. - Murmur
2. The Clash - London Calling
3. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
4. Love - Forever Changes
5. The Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight
6. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains
7. Kate Bush - The Dreaming
8. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
9. Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers
10. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
11. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
12.Derek and the Dominoes - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
13. Allman Brothers Band - At Fillmore East
14. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
15. Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
16. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane
17. Flying Burrito Brothers - Gilded Palace of Sin
18.Velvet Underground & Nico - Velvet Underground
19. Richard and Linda Thompson - Shoot Out The Lights
20. Fairport Convention - Unhalfbricking
21. The Triffids - Born Sandy Devotional
22. The Byrds - Younger than Yesterday
23. Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn
24. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
25. The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
26. Peter Gabriel - III (Melting Face)
27. Robert Johnson - The Complete Recordings
28. The Beatles - Rubber Soul
29. Televison - Marquee Moon
30. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
31. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
32. The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
33. Wire - Pink Flag
34. Joni Mitchell - Blue
35. The Chills - Submarine Bells
36. The Replacements - Let It Be
37. The Stooges - Fun House
38. Neu! - Neu! 75
39. Crowded House - Woodface
40. Slowdive - Slovlaki
41. Echo and the Bunneymen - Crocodiles
42. Syd Barrett - Barrett
43. R.E.M. - Reckoning
44. The Go-Betweens - Liberty Belle
45. Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
46. Gene Clark - No Other
47. Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Imperial Bedroom
48. David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust
49. Dexter Gordon - Our Man In Paris
50. The Church - Seance
51. Charlie Parker - Parker With Strings
52. The Beatles - Revolver
53. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
54. Bill Evans - Live at the Village Vanguard
55. The Blue Nile - Hats
56. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love
57. The Dream Syndicate - Days of Wine and Roses
58. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town.
59. Bud Powell - The Amazing Bud Powell, Vol. 1
60. Lou Reed - The Blue Mask
61. Aimee Mann - Whatever
62. The Bangles - All Over The Place
63. Everything But The Girl - Idlewild
64. Talking Heads - Fear of Music
65. Peter Gabriel - So
66. Culture - Two Sevens Clash
67. Fleetwood Mac - Then Play On
68. Son Volt - Trace
69. Warren Zevon - Warren Zevon
70. Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane - At Carnegie Hall
71. Let's Active - Cyprus/Afoot
72. Wire - A Bell Is A Cup
73. Kate and Anna McGarrigle - Kate and Anna McGarrigle
74. Emmylou Harris - Red Dirt Girl
75. Jane Siberry - When I Was A Boy
76. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
77. Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express
78. The Byrds - Mr. Tambourine Man
79. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush
80. The Dream Syndicate - Days of Wine and Roses
81. The Au Pairs - Sense and Sensuality
82. Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
83. The Doors - The Doors
84. 10,000 Maniacs - In My Tribe
85. U2 - Achtung Baby
86. Brian Eno - Another Green World
87. The Pretenders - The Predtenders
88. Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel Road
89. The Clash - The Clash
90. Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
91. John Coltrane - Giant Steps
92. Velvet Underground - Velvet Underground
93. The Replacements - Tim
94. Blondie - Parallel Lines
95. The B-52's - The B-52's
96. Pixies - Doolittle
97. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psycho Candy
98. X - Wild Gift
99. Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis
100. Roxy Music - Avalon
101. The Pretty Things - Parachute
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frank bascombe
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 04:24 pm:   

Missed this
5 is it
in no order:
Libery Belle
Darkness on the Edge of Town
Hatful of Hollow
After The Gold Rush
London Calling
these seem fairly representative
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spence
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 07:11 pm:   

5 Albums this week.
Wolfhounds - Bright and guilty (they blow most bands outta the wwater)
Stone Roses 1st album. Cherisghed memories, though sometiomes the guitar sound gets me down.
Euros Childs - Miracle inn
Durutti Column - idiot Savants
The Bell Divers - June/July
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 07:48 pm:   

Lots of love for Kate Bush - Hounds of Love. I guess I'm in the minority though peferring The Dreaming over HOL.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 12:47 am:   

Michael, I definitely prefer the Dreaming over HOL. And I prefer Never For Ever slightly over both of those!
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 04:53 pm:   

Jeff,

Bingo! Looking back I'm with on preferring Never For Ever over HOL, so I probably shouldn't included HOL on my list. I'm not overwhelmed with the songs on the flip side 9th Wave suite. I believe Never is the first album she recorded using the Fairlight digital sampler. It definitly showed growth over The Kick Inside and Lionheart.
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joe
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 10:21 am:   

i know it goes without saying, but the woman just has SO many masterpieces under her snug, probably very stylish belt. i still rate HOL above all else, but the dreaming, the kick inside and (yes!) the sensual world will battle it out for the remaining medals for the foreseeable future.

also incredible - that they sound next to nothing like one another.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1598
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 11:37 am:   

I can't think of Kate Bush without thinking of Peter Gabriel. Cripey, hasn't it been 17 years now since his last studio album?
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skulldisco
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 11:38 am:   

at the risk of being utterly predictable, I cant stand Kate Bush. that voice gives me nightmares.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1602
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   

Kevin,

If Kate's voice gives you nightmares, then what does the voice of Joanna Newsom do to you?
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 390
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 07:12 pm:   

michael, i am on record here for slating ms newsom and her voice. i probably said something along the lines of "even worse than kate bush" :-)
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 07:25 pm:   

Kevin, I remember a number of us slogging her voice (if you can call ms newsom's rattle and skreech a voice). I forgot that you were one of us. It suppose it would be pretty hard for me to listen to my Lene Lovich discs these days as well. I'm almost afraid to try.

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