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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 3243
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Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:34 am:   

Has anyone got it? Can you contact me if you have? How does it sound?
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 08:09 pm:   

I'm skeptical. Didn't he learn his lesson about messing with a classic last time?
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Fredrik Andersson
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Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 01:28 am:   

But I think he should do even more versions. One new each year.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 3244
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Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 07:03 am:   

I still want to hear it Jeff! It's got to be better than his previous solo version. So come on, have any one of our German correspondents got it?
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 3249
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Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 07:45 am:   

You can hear it here http://mp3bay.org/VA/Rolling_Stone_15_Ge burtstags_Lieder_Mag/music-id102722245s9 3/

I like it. It's just Robert and his guitar. It's quite moving actually because now I'm sure the song is about Grant, whereas before the song was about himself.
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Martin Schori
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Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 09:44 am:   

I can send everybody who gives me an e-mail address a mp3 of the song via yousendit. Send your address to mschori@gmx.net until november 30, I will send the file the day after. I agree with Pádraig, the song is about Grant, whereas before I think was about Nick Cave. And it's not just Robert and his guitar, it has a second guitar and a second voice on the chorus.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 3250
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Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 11:21 pm:   

I have it now thanks to another kind soul hereabouts. Martin, at the last ever Go-Betweens show (The Story Of The Go-Betweens at the Sydney Festival in January 2006) Robert said Rock 'n' Roll Friend was about himself).
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Andrew Kerr
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Posted on Monday, November 23, 2009 - 07:36 am:   

Someone has to defend the version on 'Warm Nights', so I'll do it ! I like that version too.

Seems to be a song that Robert goes back to; he did an acoustic version on his Marc Riley BBC session (1996 ? with Clare Kenny and Dave Ruffy), which is excellent.

It is a wonderful song, and one that I could never ever imagine anyone ever covering successfully; something about the lyrics and phrasing that it just so Robert.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 323
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, November 23, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   

I love the Warm Nights version too! It's a great vocal, I think. But Rob would have to drastically alter the lyrics to make it about anyone other than himself.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, November 23, 2009 - 10:25 pm:   

I always wondered who the song was about, and Robert gave no clue to Dierdre's querry on the Live on SNAP Bellavista bonus disc!
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Martin Schori
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Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 12:31 pm:   

Pádraig - I think I know Robert good enough to know that he rarely says what he means, I think it's just something he imagined at the moment. And it's a good point. A very good one. Maybe I should think about that. I had a similar intention to say it's about Nick Cave ... maybe I was wrong and the song is about Peter Walsh (The Apartments - a great band). And maybe (perhaps) the song is about oneself (the listener)!
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 3252
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 04:06 am:   

Martin, at that show he said he wrote it about himself from the point of view of someone he was living with in Sydney. He seemed to be being genuine about it.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 324
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 01:18 pm:   

He was fairly clear about it in London too, saying that he wrote it imagining how it was for his lover, someone outside the music world, to welcome this strange, sweaty creature home after a gig and realise that no matter how much she loved him she'd always take second place to that other alien life - which is why the song fits in so well on Warm Nights, with its thematic play of tensions between life-in-music & life-outside-music and whether its possible to reconcile and find a balance between the two. Which old Rob seems to have rather successfully done, of course.
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fsh
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:00 pm:   

More here: thread on list archive
2005: July - September

Who is Roberts Rock n Roll Friend?
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Randy Adams
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Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 04:57 pm:   

Ok, I finally heard it. This is a nice stripped down presentation of the song. (Thank you Martin!) I don't really hear the Grant connection though.
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Jonathan Evans
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Post Number: 361
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 06:45 pm:   

Thanks Martin.
Love that version.
Cheers
Jon
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Matsrep
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:13 am:   

Thanks Martin,
I like it, but I still think that the GBs version is the best (or the acoustic version from 96 that Andrew Kerr mentioned).

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