| Author | Message | ||
     David Nichols Member Username: David_nichols Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2009 |
I want to know what the tracklisting is, so I can say 'I can't BELIEVE they left off XXX and included XXX!' | ||
| Eugene Unger Member Username: Blureu Post Number: 9 Registered: 05-2006 |
Here it is: The tracklisting is as follows: 1. Spring Rain 2. Love Goes On 3. Bye Bye Pride 4. Part Company 5. Darlinghurst Nights 6. Bachelor Kisses 7. Surfing Magazines 8. Karen 9. The Clock 10. Head Full Of Steam 11. Streets Of Your Town 12. People Say 13. Finding You 14. Dive For Your Memory 15. Cattle And Cane 16. Right Here 17. Here Comes A City 18. Quiet Heart http://themusic.com.au/news/all/2012/07/ 02/go-betweens-to-relase-best-of/ | ||
| David Nichols Member Username: David_nichols Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2009 |
I can't believe they left off... Actually it looks like a good comp. I'd love to read a review or otherwise get a response to it from someone who'd never heard them before. | ||
| Richard May Member Username: Richm Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2010 |
That is a great tracklisting. I would have loved to have seen Old Mexico on it but apart from that it's spot on! | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 174 Registered: 06-2005 |
This compilation will be worth buying for the accompanying live DVD alone... Is this the show? The Go-Betweens: Vienna, U4, 20th October 1987 Bye Bye Pride Unkind And Unwise Part Company The House That Jack Kerouac Built Clarke Sisters This Girl Black Girl Don't Call Me Gone When People Are Dead The Wrong Road Cut It Out Head Full Of Steam Right Here In The Core Of A Flame Man O' Sand To GirlO'Sea Cattle And Cane Spring Rain Apology Accepted Thanks to Andreas Stangl for the setlist | ||
| TROU Member Username: Trou Post Number: 305 Registered: 05-2005 |
1987 wasn't a bad tour. Hope it's a DVD. For the comp, I think it' a great one, even if 'Too much of one thing', 'I'm allright', 'draining the pool' and many more aren't on it. It could be my perfect gift idea for the ten years to come. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2387 Registered: 01-2005 |
I'm Allright is the first song that got me hooked on the Go-Betweens, circa November 1988. I bought a copy of 16 Lovers Lane CD a couple of days later. It's a big omission for me as well as Bye Bye Pride, In The Core Of The Flame, Two Steps Step Out. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2979 Registered: 03-2005 |
Well, 18 songs are never going to cut it. But I'll buy for the live disc. I hope it's a soundboard recording or something else like that with decent sound. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2454 Registered: 10-2004 |
I'll buy it because I'm one of those wretched completists and because of the live disc. I think it's unfortunate that 16LL has a whopping four songs, while Before Hollywood has only one. Maybe they wanted Amanda to be well-represented? Also not a fan of the particular FRR songs they included, but what can you do? | ||
| fsh Member Username: Fsh Post Number: 260 Registered: 05-2005 |
Another Go betweens compilation! Well I suppose and now that they own a bridge etc. Nothing mentioned about a DVD (TROU) seems like a live bonus CD a la Bellavista Terrace (that bonus disc was very enjoyable to my ears at the time) Two questions: 1. Is this an Australia only release? and the other is asked in the linked article 2. Who are the cover stars? (My guess is they're the freak childs of the drummer and the late great one! definitely not related though!!) | ||
| Burgers Member Username: Burgers Post Number: 39 Registered: 05-2005 |
I agree with Jeff. I'll buy it but if I were putting my favourite 18 tracks together there's only 9 of those included that would make it. There's some real duds included too. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4686 Registered: 05-2005 |
Fourteen of the 18 are amazing songs. I'll be getting it for the live disc. | ||
| David Fitzpatrick Member Username: Fitzer Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2004 |
If I remember correctly, Robert Vickers' Go-Bs site/space on MySpace.com used to have songs from the Vienna gig ... checked before posting and they're not there now. And if I'm still remembering correctly, the songs sounded great! So the live CD will be a nice addition ... (Is that the Go-Between Bridge on back cover of the album[CD]?) | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2512 Registered: 10-2004 |
David F., where are you seeing the back cover of the CD? | ||
| Richard May Member Username: Richm Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2010 |
Jeff, if you go to the home page of go-betweens.net and click on the front cover picture of Quiet Heart, it shows more info and shows the back cover. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2513 Registered: 10-2004 |
Thanks, Richard. | ||
| Matsrep Member Username: Matsrep Post Number: 117 Registered: 10-2005 |
I wonder why they did not include Adele and Glenn from GBs part II in curating the compilation. It would have been a nice gesture and a way to say: this was also the Gbs, you know. (I do understand why Willsteed with one album in his CV was not asked - or maybe he was and declined?) | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2427 Registered: 01-2005 |
Five of the songs performed at the The Go-Betweens: Vienna, U4, 20th October 1987 show didn't make the cut for the live disc. Bye Bye Pride This Girl Black Girl Don't Call Me Gone When People Are Dead Cattle And Cane | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4817 Registered: 05-2005 |
OK, I got it and have played both discs. The best of disc is just under 73 minutes, so they definitely could have fit at least one more song on there. (Too Much Of One Thing would have been my choice). It sounds great. The three tracks from Oceans Apart don't sound, at least on first listen, to be distorted as they were on the original album. But, then again, it was the later tracks on the album where the distortion was worst, and these come from within the first six. The six pages of liner notes by David Fricke are good and include some revelations, such as that Robert wrote the lyrics for Finding You. The live disc is superb. Man O'Sand To Girl O'Sea is the early stand out here. There are great pictures used and the overall three panel package is very nice. | ||
| fsh Member Username: Fsh Post Number: 262 Registered: 05-2005 |
I am disappointed there wasn't two 'l's in the title. No way am I going to buy it! | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3035 Registered: 03-2005 |
Just ordered my copy. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2428 Registered: 01-2005 |
The cover looks like a scene from a Whit Stillman movie. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2429 Registered: 01-2005 |
So I had to order a copy as well. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2435 Registered: 01-2005 |
From Red Eye Records! | ||
| Matsrep Member Username: Matsrep Post Number: 118 Registered: 10-2005 |
...so did I... (mostly for the live disc etc.) Meanwhile I think about my two disc anthology, from Karen to The City of Lights (EP version). | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 184 Registered: 06-2005 |
2 part Interview with Robert here..., http://messandnoise.com/articles/4512537 | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 756 Registered: 04-2005 |
Thanks Peter for that link ! And this is an intriguing quote (during the comments on 'Bachelor Kisses') "I’m actually – again, I’m not going to go into this – I’m writing something else about the band and I’m hearing quite a lot of new unreleased Go-Betweens music at the moment" | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 185 Registered: 06-2005 |
Sleeve notes for a box set? An autobiography perhaps? An update to his oft overlooked thesis on the importance of hair?! Curious indeed Andrew ;-) | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4830 Registered: 05-2005 |
He has mentioned working on an autobiography before Peter, so I'm sure it's that. But if there is that much unreleased Go-Betweens music around then I'm sure a box set will follow too. I wonder if it might be available for this Christmas (box sets being a Christmassy thing)? You never know. | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 186 Registered: 06-2005 |
Here's the Hair Care piece in case anyone is struggling with their locks, I'm struggling to hang on to mine, he profers nothing on this but it was 1987 and again in 2001 he really should update this Hair Piece again given the advances in technology since, Redken probably no longer disarms the Hair Salon brigade like it once did! http://www.robertforster.net/otherpubs/a rticles/rfdebris198712.html http://www.robertforster.net/otherpubs/a rticles/rftimeout20010711.html Box set would be sweet Padraig or an official release of Botany Sessions. The re-releases' extra discs had so much additional material on them that it's hard to imagine there being too much more until you hear Robert speak of the original demo of Bachelor Kisses which I would pay good money to have. It would be very interesting to hear the original bones of that genius pop song on an acoustic guitar. I'm sure there are lots on this board have bootlegs, sound board recordings, b-sides, covers, demos etc that if cleaned up and released would make a decent collection... what would the dream box set contain? | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 551 Registered: 05-2005 |
Quiet Heart arrived yesterday, the compilation plays through really well and my wife took it in to her shop today and concurred. The live disc has some character but also serves as a reminder of why I don't like live albums, the sound quality is not great, the singer has fallen down a well, the drummer is in the garage next door etc | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4867 Registered: 05-2005 |
Review here http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/reviews/new-m usic/201515/quiet-heart-the-best-of-the- go-betweens.htm | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4890 Registered: 05-2005 |
Interview with Robert here http://www.adelaidereview.com.au/article /1719 | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 758 Registered: 04-2005 |
Cheers Pádraig, but why do they keep repeating that it is a live DVD when it is an audio CD ? Even Robert is quoted as saying that it is a DVD !? | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 192 Registered: 06-2005 |
“The Bellavista album now feels like an entirely different thing. The new one covers different records, comes with a live DVD album from concert we did in Vienna in 1987 and has new sleeve notes. And there was a lot more participation from all the different members of the band.” apparently so says Robert in the above interview, a couple of early web pieces referenced a DVD also, whilst most pieces reference a CD.. are there 2 versions out there or is this a repeated typo? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4891 Registered: 05-2005 |
The impression that I get is that the interviewer wrote the piece without seeing the package, assumed it was a DVD and then assumed Robert meant DVD when he actually said CD. It's lazy journalism. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2445 Registered: 01-2005 |
I hope Robert gets some backing to finish up his next album. Maybe the pending live shows will inspire him to write a few more songs and record them? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4904 Registered: 05-2005 |
The quote Michael is referring to is this: “It’s been five years since I recorded anything which has been the longest gap ever for me. I have some new songs written – and some of them I really like – but the economics of recording an album have changed a great deal. So I have to see where I fit in these days. “And having a new record out every two or three years just doesn’t seem so important to me these days,” he concludes. If our favourite musicians can no longer see the economic point of recording new material it is a terrible loss to us all. Damn these freeloading internet downloaders. | ||
| Andreas Severins Member Username: Andreas_severins Post Number: 243 Registered: 11-2007 |
What is that? Just looked at it...that's no article - it's bullshit: quotes: ...best of’ compilation that includes songs from the band’s final two albums, The Friends of Rachel Worth and Oceans Apart ...They suddenly disbanded in 1987... ...In 2000, Forster and McLennan reformed the band, albeit with a different line-up, to record The Friends of Rachel Worth and tour the world. They followed that in 2005 with the equally fine Oceans Apart but by December of that year, McLennan had died of a heart attack... It would not have been complicated to read some basics on the band ;( | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 565 Registered: 05-2005 |
It's starting to really bug me now that there is nothing from BYBO on there, Too Much of One Thing or Make Her Day? I will never consider this a definitive compilation as a result. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3045 Registered: 03-2005 |
I don't think downloaders are playing a role in Robert's calculus Padraig. I think Robert is acknowledging that the size of his market is small. And he knows that if he makes a traditional record with a traditional record company he will have to tour, something he's not been too shy to say he doesn't really enjoy. Robert is not young; he's dealing with some basic realities about the phases of life. I think he'll do another album but I'm happy to have him wait until it's a good solid one. Robert used to be noticeably dismissive of do-it-yourself types. My brother told me that Roger McGuinn reported that he makes more money in his dotage now by self-releasing his new recordings than he ever did before. McGuinn is nearly a generation older than Robert. Hopefully Robert will adopt a similar approach. Yeah, Andreas, I wondered about all those extreme errors. It's not much of a tribute or honor to a band if the person doing it clearly doesn't know anything about them. I wondered about the pass-over of BYBO tracks too Cosmo. But we'll all have our own choices; I'd choose "Something For Myself" and "Old Mexico." | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 566 Registered: 05-2005 |
Either of those would be good too Randy, for the sake of career overview something from that album should have been included. I wonder why it was overlooked? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3046 Registered: 03-2005 |
I remember Robert saying something a handful of years ago about listening again to the album and thinking that it could have had more done to it. It sounded like somebody had been giving him some criticism about it--I think we gave it a bit of criticism way back when. I interpreted his comments to mean that he thought maybe the production was too simple. | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 651 Registered: 10-2006 |
I adore Caroline and I myself. Cracking opener, neat lyric, hummable tune. | ||
| Richard May Member Username: Richm Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2010 |
I love BYBO and would also have liked to have seen Old Mexico, Make Her Day, Mrs Morgan or Caroline and I on the best of. It does seem a bit odd that it was completly ignored. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 852 Registered: 05-2005 |
I really can't get to the songs, that everyone seems to love, on BYBO because of the production. I reckon you can hear the grey in their hair! OA, on the other hand, sounds like they have a new relationship and they've decided to put on a new suit and put a bit of Grecian 2000 through their hair. If you are trying to get the best foot forward then it won't include anything from BYBO. Every time I play it I get bored. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4906 Registered: 05-2005 |
You're probably right about Robert and the lack of new recordings Randy; more to do with market size than kids with wi-fi. At the Four Ages of Robert Forster shows in Brisbane I suggested to Robert that a DVD of each show be released alongside remastered versions of the original albums. "But who would buy them?," he said to me. "I would," I replied. "But who else would?," he said. But they were recorded, so I'm sure they will emerge one day. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3047 Registered: 03-2005 |
Geoff I love the crystalline sound of BYBO. It always sounds fresh and alive to me. If I had my way there'd be some extra instrumental details on there, small inspirations like the little keyboard that opens "Mountains Near Delray" on the next album, but the sound is wonderful. It's "Friends of Rachel Worth" that I find a bit lacking. They're missing their proper drummer and thus a real band feel and the recorded sound is lackluster. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2447 Registered: 01-2005 |
Mrs Morgan or Caroline and I are missed by me as well. To be honest though, my QH copy is still in transit from NZ! | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 653 Registered: 10-2006 |
Especially considering how centrally Robert always seems to place Too much of one thing - "The ballad of the band" etc. But it's thrown away slightly on the album - I didn't really pick up on the song till I was watching Acoustic stories and I thought "Where the hell is that masterpiece from?" Was a surprise it hadn't really registered with me on BYBO at all. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4916 Registered: 05-2005 |
I've always loved Too Much Of One Thing and was surprised it didn't make it onto Quiet Heart. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2460 Registered: 01-2005 |
I wonder if I'll every play the first disc of Bellavista Terrace again? | ||
| Austin Member Username: Bruegelpie Post Number: 96 Registered: 09-2004 |
I finally got around to reading the liner notes of Quiet Heart, written by David Fricke. It is a very nice 6 page essay which weaves in interviews along with Fricke's comments. Some interesting info contained in it, such as Robert talking about viewing the cliffs and water from the window of the Cosmopolitan Hotel in Sydney as the setting for "Dive for Your Memory." Lindy talking about the collaboration of the band is interesting as well. Robert talking about "Cattle and Cane" is also great. He says that he was awed by Grant exposing himself by writing about his childhood when Robert was focused on composing lyrics based in the present on his romantic life. All that plus great pictures from all eras of the band, including a wonderful shot featuring the Liberty Belle couch (note to self - need to get that for my living room!). A great read if you haven't read it by now. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 2197 Registered: 10-2008 |
These last two posts remind me I really must dig out 1978-1990. All killer, no filler. | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 209 Registered: 06-2005 |
I haven't bought Quiet Heart yet but I do love 78-90, have the cassette version, first time I heard "Baby You Won't Find It Again" one of my favourite Grant songs. Also love the sleeve notes for this release |