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Pat Boland
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2012 - 07:38 pm:   

The current edition of Mojo (The Smiths on the cover) features a crudely edited version of Cattle and Cane on the free CD - not sure when/how this edit came to pass but I certainly haven't encountered it before . The best part of a minute has been shorn from the end of the third verse and Robert's spoken-word piece.

To be filed next to Cut it Out - the 12" version!
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 4825
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2012 - 11:33 pm:   

Thanks Pat. I'll be getting it today.
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 755
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 08:03 am:   

Pat,

That is utterly appalling and as you say extremely crudely done. I have never even heard of that edited version existing and I can't imagine that the band would have agreed to it.

You don't mess with perfection !

I am sure that my Rough Trade vinyl 45 is the full 4:12 version and this version comes in at 3:30.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 4844
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 12:14 pm:   

Wow. It could be my imagination, but has it been speeded up too?
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Burgers
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2012 - 04:31 pm:   

Mojo had a U2 jukebox CD featuring Cattle and Cane back in 2005. I've never heard it but that might be the source of the edit.

The Wedding Present's cover cut at least a verse out. I can't bring myself to listen to it as it's so bad but it only lasts 3:04.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 4862
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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 - 09:32 am:   

That version was intact. It explains why the weird edit is used - these magazines don't repeat a song they've used previously on a CD.
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EW
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2014 - 03:42 pm:   

"Cut it Out - the 12" version!".

I take it from the ! that this is a joke but is there something about the 12" version that's different to the LP?
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Pat Boland
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 10:29 am:   

The 12" version of Cut it Out is about a minute longer, if memory serves.

More of it to love, I suppose.
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Greg Adams
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 01:39 pm:   

The "Cattle and Cane" edit is the same speed as the original—only the guitar solo is edited out. In the original, Robert's recitation is at 3:02, but in the edit, it appears at 2:15.

It's strange that the edit leaves that three-note guitar intro intact. Cutting that would have been an easy and relatively unobstrusive way to shave off 15 seconds.
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EW
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 02:39 pm:   

Thanks Pat. I used to have the 12" but sold it when all the b-sides became available on CD reissues. I never noticed the a-side was different - my mistake.
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Greg Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 01:44 pm:   

There is a version that edits out that intro. If Andrew is right about the running time of the Rough Trade single (4:12), then that's the one with the intro cut, because the album version is 4:27.

I heard the Rough Trade single version before I heard the album version, and when I listened to Before Hollywood for the first time, I was surprised to hear that intro.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 3478
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 02:37 am:   

It's my recollection that the U.S. version of their "1978 - 1990" compilation had a version of "Cattle & Cane" without the little guitar intro. That comp was my introduction to the GoBees and I was surprised when I heard the introduction to the song later. No idea if the EU 2-CD version uses the full version or not.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 7250
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 03:42 am:   

The 2 CD version was only released in Japan. In Europe it was a single disc with 22 songs. However, I'm pretty sure the three note intro was not used on any edition of 1978-1990, vinyl, cassette or either CD version.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 7252
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 08:53 am:   

Playing it now. Now. No intro, just straight into the song.
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EW
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2015 - 01:47 pm:   


quote:

The 12" version of Cut it Out is about a minute longer, if memory serves.



Blimey - just got hold of a copy and it's 6:23!

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