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     Andreas Severins Member Username: Andreas_severins Post Number: 220 Registered: 11-2007 |
Crossing the red sea: The Adverts - Gary Gilmore's Eyes | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 701 Registered: 04-2005 |
Lisa Hannigan - Little Bird "Here I stay, I lay me down in a house by the Hill Dug from the rubble and cut from the kill" I have no idea what this means, but somehow the emotion that this young woman manages to convey is startling. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4326 Registered: 05-2005 |
Richard Hawley - Remorse Code | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 537 Registered: 10-2006 |
Leonard Cohen - Going home The Sassicaia of singer-songwriters. Delivery was held up for ages by snow, but it was worth the wait. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 702 Registered: 04-2005 |
Black - More Than The Sun Continuing the exploration of my 45 rpms: Black (aka Colin Vearncombe) are best known for 'Wonderful Life', but this moody almost-Scott Walker-like song is a lost classic. 'Hey Presto' is excellent too... | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4329 Registered: 05-2005 |
Nada Surf - The Future (acoustic version) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1627 Registered: 10-2008 |
Outdoor Miner - Wire Heard on ex Smiths drummer Mike Joyce's show on BB6 Music | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 398 Registered: 05-2005 |
no blindspots in the leopard's eyes | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1635 Registered: 10-2008 |
Jerdacuttup Man - The Triffids (from In The Pines) | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4334 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy Adams - Fear Of My Convictions | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2876 Registered: 03-2005 |
Roger McGuinn -- Up to Me Awesome bass from one Rob Stoner. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 936 Registered: 04-2006 |
Damien Jurado - Nothing is the News I am sure that some of you will like that song... http://www.avclub.com/articles/damien-ju rado-maraqopa,69196/ | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 950 Registered: 04-2006 |
chelsea wolfe - halfsleeper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WrILPqRa Do&feature=related while checking out recommended new albums i listened to chelsea wolfe stuff. now i am obsessed. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2347 Registered: 10-2004 |
Associates - No | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2343 Registered: 01-2005 |
Robyn Hitchcock - Glass Hotel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKE0maCnw 9s&feature=related | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1645 Registered: 10-2008 |
Wire - Eardrum Buzz Playing just now on Steve Lamacqs show on BBC6 Music. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4340 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy Adams - State Of Grace. This is such a haunting song. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2354 Registered: 10-2004 |
Randy Adams - State of Grace (guaranteed to be the only one listening to this song in Slovakia!). I agree with Padraig - there's something quite haunting about it. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4352 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Clash - One More Dub | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 376 Registered: 02-2007 |
Randy Adams - Summer of '68; Drifting Thru Yesterday My favs from Randy's latest album. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4361 Registered: 05-2005 |
Daniel Rossen - Silent Song | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2350 Registered: 01-2005 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1SenDxZA bA | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4369 Registered: 05-2005 |
Adele & Glenn - I Dreamt I Was A Sparrow | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2362 Registered: 10-2004 |
Go-Betweens - Unkind and Unwise | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 545 Registered: 10-2006 |
Barbara Carlotti - Tunis Very early L Cohenish type little ballad sung in a rather low, moody voice. As far as I can see, her lover's in Tunis and it's raining. Love the faint background trumpet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VHGDLorU n4&feature=related | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2365 Registered: 10-2004 |
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Jigsaw Feeling | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4374 Registered: 05-2005 |
Justin Townes Earle - Am I That Lonely Tonight. The first line refers to listening to his "father on the radio"! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4387 Registered: 05-2005 |
Hindu Love Gods - Gonna Have A Good Time Tonight | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2894 Registered: 03-2005 |
Cocteau Twins -- Pearly Dewdrops' Drops Really I could cull my Cocteau Twins down to "Treasure" and "Pink Opaque" and that pair of '85 EPs that were coupled together for a CD (sorry, can't remember the name at the moment) and be just fine. 1984/85 was their peak. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1670 Registered: 10-2008 |
Randy, I agree that 84/85 was their peak. I wish I could say it was the preceding years because my sisters husband is Will Heggie who was a founder member of the band and played on the the first album Garlands, and some EP's. He is the proud owner of a silver disc for Garlands which is displayed proudly in one of the rooms in their house!! While agreeing 84/85 was their peak I must admit to never being the biggest fan of The Cocteaus. Coming from my home town I knew them all fairly well, and they were very nice people indeed, but musically I found them too derivitave of Joy Division/Banshees/Cure etc, especially early on. Although to be fair they did find a fair degree of originality later. I realise I am probably in a minority here, I would imagine they have lots of fans on the board. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2371 Registered: 10-2004 |
I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this 84/85 timeframe for the Cocteau Twins' peak. For me, 83/85 is their peak. 83's Head Over Heels is a masterpiece, about as brilliant as Treasure. Plus, about 1/3 of what's on the awesome Pink Opaque compilation came from '83 (or '82, even). I love 82's Garlands as well, but it's not an album I would play for someone who was hearing them for the first time. I never found the Cocteau Twins to be overly derivative of anyone, except for maybe, occasionally, the Banshees ("In Our Angelhood" sounds an awful lot like "Fireworks"). They were likely influenced by Joy Division, but I feel like with Liz's vocals and Robin Guthrie's unique guitar playing (he arrived at his own sound pretty quickly), they inhabited their own world pretty early on. But yeah, after '85, things started to get a bit patchy, although there were still numerous worthwhile releases. The problem is that after '85, they basically decided to be a pop group. And while that's not in and of itself a bad thing, they seemed to lose their edge, going from moody/brooding/beautiful/atmospheric to merely pleasant. Blue Bell Knoll and Heaven or Las Vegas do contain some wonderful songs, some of the old magic was lost. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1671 Registered: 10-2008 |
Robin was a big fan of 60's singer/songwriters like Tim Buckley, but you wouldn't know it from the music. Add The Birthday Party into the mix and without Joy Division/Banshees/Cure there would have been no Cocteau Twins sound/look as we knew it. Thats not a criticism, we were all influenced by these bands at that time, and they did quickly settle on their own unique sound. My major problem was with Liz's vocals, they just dont really do it for me. But I have always admitted that I am not the biggest fan of female vocalists. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2372 Registered: 10-2004 |
Yeah, I agree that the Cocteau Twins were influenced by those bands, I just don't think they were (except for in a few instances) overly derivative of them. But Liz's vocals are the sort that people either love or hate. Personally, I like her singing, but I sometimes think Guthrie (and Raymonde) deserve a little more credit than they sometimes get for constructing such great backdrops for Liz to sing over. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1672 Registered: 10-2008 |
I have had the pleasure of hanging out with Simon Raymonde a good few times (but not since the late 80's), and he is one of the most genuine, humble and friendliest people I have ever met. All the more remarkable given that he was an important member of one of the biggest indie bands on the planet at the time, and could have been forgiven for being aloof or dismissive of "ordinary" people like myself. The indie scene in London at that time was full of aloof and arrogant people. I agree with Jeff that he deserves full credit for the music, and I was really pleased to see him make a new career for himself as the main man behind Bella Union, one of the most suceesful record labels of the last decade. I'm going to dig out Treasure and give it a blast tonight. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2374 Registered: 10-2004 |
That's cool about Simon Raymonde. He's a great bassist, too, obviously. I have to amend what I said above about the Cocteau Twins turning into a pleasant pop band post-85. It was really more like 87/88 where that happened. Victorialand and the Moon and the Melodies from '86 are both quite excellent and fairly unconventional, even if they're not on par with what came before them. | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 409 Registered: 05-2005 |
Liz Fraser is a f***ing amazing singer and the Cocteaus were and remain a brilliant and unique band. The drum sound on the early albums hasn't dated well but it's spectacularly off the mark to suggest that they were a spent force after 85 or 86, Heaven or Las Vegas is one of their best and is a phenomenal album. | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 410 Registered: 05-2005 |
The world is full of arrogant people and idiots Kev and there is no reason whatsoever why 'famous' people/musicians or music industry people are any more or less likely to be the same. Therefore no reason to be surprised when Simon Raymonde turns out to be a good guy | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1678 Registered: 10-2008 |
Its all about opinions James, we can't all love the same music thankfully. Although I would say that with some bands I think to myself "how can anybody like that crap", I don't think that about the Cocteaus, they just don't float my boat too much. As regards musicians personalities, I can only take people as I found them and Simon struck me as being fairly unique, not that I met hundreds of musicians but I did meet a good few who were arrogant in the extreme. The person I was most disappointed by was Edwyn Collins funnily enough, maybe I got him on a bad night. And we were both in our early 20's, and drunk :-) | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 411 Registered: 05-2005 |
No problems Kev, it's all subjective and there are lots of opinions on this board, many of them different from mine. With regard to musicians etc, i treat everyone as i would expect to be treated myself and when people are kind, humble and genuine then i consider that to be a good thing irrespective of what they do | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2381 Registered: 10-2004 |
Cosmo, I agree - Heaven or Las Vegas really is a wonderful album. But for me, as great as it is, it doesn't possess quite the same magic as albums like Treasure, and just isn't on the same level. I see Heaven or Las Vegas as the pinnacle of the Cocteau Twins' poppier phase. I felt like they'd only got it about half right on Blue Bell Knoll, but really nailed it with Heaven or Las Vegas. Of course, if asked to take one Cocteau Twins' album with me to a desert island, it'd have to be Treasure. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2903 Registered: 03-2005 |
I'm guessing I got up Cosmo's nose with my Cocteau comment. I'm very sorry, that was not intended, although I knew Jeff would come to their valiant defense. (And that probably WAS intended.) After pulling out the old discs and revisiting them, I've concluded that--for me--the Cocteaus to stick with are the ones I listened to so heavily in the mid-80s: "Garlands" through "Moon and the Melodies". And yes--for me--1984/85 is their best period. The sound they were making then is like a perfect shot of heroin for me. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1679 Registered: 10-2008 |
Forgot to say. There is a slight Go-Betweens connection here. When Will Heggie left The Cocteaus he joined another band called Lowlife. They supported The Go_Betweens on the Tallulah tour. Blagged myself a free copy of Tallulah from Lowlifes manager(Brian Guthrie, brother of Robin) a week or so before release! Never actually saw Lowlife perform, got to the gig in Edinburgh just in time for The Go-Betweens set in a small sweaty club. They were magnificent with Amanda Brown stealing the show. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2905 Registered: 03-2005 |
Wow. That would have been quite a show Kevin. | ||
| TROU Member Username: Trou Post Number: 296 Registered: 05-2005 |
I saw Cocteau Twins live and was quite disappointed by their show (too quiet, nearly as boring a prog band). I have recently listened to their not so old singles and ep's sampler (Lullabies to Violaine) and found that their music has nicely aged. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2384 Registered: 10-2004 |
TROU, I saw the Cocteau Twins three times, and by far their best show was on their last tour (for Milk and Kisses) when they had a HUMAN drummer, instead of the drum machine. What a difference that made. Robin Guthrie had also lost quite a bit of weight at that point, and was definitely putting a bit more energy into the show, rather than just standing there lethargically, like he'd done the previous two times I'd seen them. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 708 Registered: 04-2005 |
Kevin, Was that the GBs gig in the Hoochie Koochie club (above Coasters)? May '87 maybe ? Yes that was certainly a good one. I saw the Cocteau Twins live a couple of times; once in Edinburgh with Felt supporting, who annoyed the hell out of me as Laurence chewed gum whilst singing. For their encore the Cocteau Twins had to rewind the tape machine and replay something that they had already played. The second time was in London with Dif Juz supporting, who were stunning, and the Cocteaus struggled in comparison. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4403 Registered: 05-2005 |
Cosmo, I think you are being a touch naive. Yes, people should just be nice regardless of what they do, but successful musicians spend their days and nights surrounded by flunkies telling them how brilliant, talented and unique they are. If someone gets that treatment and still manages to behave like a normal person it is both a credit to them and an, unfortunately, all too rare achievement. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1681 Registered: 10-2008 |
Andrew, yes it was April 87 though. I cheated and looked at the gig section of the website :-) | ||
| cosmo vitelli Member Username: Cosmo Post Number: 412 Registered: 05-2005 |
Padraig, fame is a magnifier, much like alcohol or drugs, I believe that if you behave like an arsehole when you become 'famous' it's because you were already an arsehole. I have met many musicians and have several friends who are musicians, they are no more or less likely to be 'normal' than the people I meet in the business community or sporting community. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4416 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Acoustic Stories version of Cattle And Cane. |