| Author | Message | ||
     Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 1376 Registered: 10-2006 |
Brian Jonestown Massacre - Wisdom A friend just sent me some tunes by BJM, of whom, perhaps to my shame, I know nothing. But this is stonkingly great, in a kitchen sink, feel my record collection, wear my influences on my sleeve sort of way. I feel zis could be ze beginning ov a bootifil frenszhip. Oh, wait, no, it's Bogart that says that, scratch the stupid accent, which Claude Rains never even had anyway. | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 1377 Registered: 10-2006 |
Joan Baez - Diamonds and rust Maybe the only great song JB ever wrote, but a hell of a great one anyway. "You gonna sing that song about robin's eggs and diamonds?" Bob asked me on the first day of tour rehearsals. "Which one?" "You know, that one about blue eyes and diamonds..." "Oh", I said, "you must mean 'Diamonds And Rust,' the song I wrote for my husband, David. I wrote it while he was in prison." "For your husband?" Bob said. "Yeah. Who did you think it was about?" I stonewalled. "Oh, hey, what the fuck do I know?" "Never mind. Yeah, I'll sing it, if you like." | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1157 Registered: 04-2005 |
With you on that Stuart. A stunning piece of autobiographical writing. David Hajdu's book (Positively 4th Street: The Lives and Times of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina, and Richard Farina.) is a fascinating read about that period during which all their lives collided. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1158 Registered: 04-2005 |
Following a piece in the Guardian on the Bunnymen's best I dug out all my 12" singles... Echo and the Bunnymen - Silver (Tidal Wave) | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 1378 Registered: 10-2006 |
Apparently when Bob rang her up, as mentioned in the song, he read out the whole of Lily, Rosemary and the jack of Hearts to her - a very Bob thing to do. I wonder if it was a collect call? So the song she was working on then got sidetracked into D & R. I guess the call lifted her game for one extraordinary moment. | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 333 Registered: 06-2005 |
Robert Forster - Atlanta Lie Low Listened to Calling From A Country Phone on the way to work this morning for the first time in long while, the instrumentation on that record is as good as anything Robert has recorded, would loved to have attended the live shows he played down under some years back with most if not all of the original studio band in tow. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3779 Registered: 03-2005 |
Peter, those were truly great shows. I'm still hoping Robert someday releases vids of them because there WAS video equipment. "Country Phone" was easily my favorite Forster album though I'm happy to say that a good chunk of "Evangelist" and nearly all of "Songs to Play" put up a great challenge. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8280 Registered: 05-2005 |
I asked Robert one time if he planned to release those shows. He said, "But who'd buy them." I said me, and everyone else on the Go-Betweens message board. He said, "Exactly." But I'm sure they'll get the box set treatment some day. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1159 Registered: 04-2005 |
Joan Shelley - The Push and Pull https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POmeYbcT 6mk From her new album (brilliant !), produced by Jeff Tweedy. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8286 Registered: 05-2005 |
Andrew, thanks for letting us know about the Bunnymen piece (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/j ul/05/echo-and-the-bunnymen-10-of-the-be st). I hadn't seen it. Love the story about Mac introducing them as Echo & The Burrundimen. In tribute to that, song of the day is All My Colours (Zimbo). | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1160 Registered: 04-2005 |
Pádraig, In terms of the quality of their songs, for me the Bunnymen beat U2 by miles. I've always thought that if you remove the numerous effects from the Edge's guitar you're not actually left with a lot ! | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1162 Registered: 04-2005 |
Am I allowed a second selection ? Songs-that-recycle-that-Sweet-Jane-riff- part-243 And unlikely comebacks part 588 ! Peter Perret - How The West Was Won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYuGlD3X SOw | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1163 Registered: 04-2005 |
Sorry. PerretT ! | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 446 Registered: 08-2005 |
By total coincidence... Another Girl, Another Planet by The Only Ones. Presently watching an interview with Peter Perrett on Newsnight*, about his new work, which has a Go-Betweens-esque feel. Yowza! * I had to avoid any news on TV today having read what our present loving and caring government are planning (they're a bunch of self-serving c***s. Sorry about the language, but it's deserved) | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 447 Registered: 08-2005 |
Strawberry Fields Forever (just watching a Howard Goodall-fronted documentary on the Sergeant Pepper album, and just how good an album it is. It really, really is. And many, many years ago I met Paul and Linda McCartney, Peter Blake and George Martin. And Paul and Linda were genuinely lovely. So there!) | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1165 Registered: 04-2005 |
You have to tell us more about that meeting Simon please !!! For me the music of the Beatles just exists on another plane. There are The Beatles...and the rest. I was born the year that their first record came out, so I can't claim to be of their generation at all, but I still feel that I am close enough to the Sixties to have at least a feel for how important and influential they were. And how music meant more at that period than now ? We coud spend hours debating it's place in the present day, but in the 60s it seemed to be tied integrally to huge changes in society and culture ? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3788 Registered: 03-2005 |
The Beatles didn't really happen in the States until the beginning of 1964 with "I Wanna Hold Your Hand." I remember that well as I was 7 years old. At that point most of their songs were pretty formulaic. Honorable exceptions are numbers like "I Saw Her Standing There" and even the stark "Love Me Do." What made the Beatles stand out in the U.S. in '64 was their DIY almost punk ethos and, yes, the hair. If you were 7 years old like me in 1964 the Beatles were definitely the most important thing. If you were in your late teens Bob Dylan was the most important thing. The Beatles inspired Dylan to go electric. Dylan inspired the Beatles to put more effort into writing. Music WAS more important in the 60s. It also changed blindingly fast over a half dozen years. The Beatles definitely drove the lion's share of that breakneck change but not all of it. For example, think of how many people were influenced by "Pet Sounds" which itself was really a final realization of what the Beach Boys had been exploring over a couple of albums in 1965. It's generally thought that "Pet Sounds" inspired the Beatles to push themselves to do "Sgt. Pepper." Music was such a big deal that among the kids only the jocks didn't care in the U.S. and actually a fair number of them also ended up caring. The music biz had to adapt to this, to the fact that they were not just marketing disposable "kids' music." Everyone had some kind of stereo and big record collections were quite common even by the late '60s. If your place was burgled the thieves were definitely going to walk off with as many of your records as they could. And take the stereo too. I wonder what--if anything--is the unifying signifier for "kids today." Computer games? I suppose I'm too old to have a chance at knowing especially since I don't have kids of my own. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8294 Registered: 05-2005 |
I think social media is the opium of the young masses, Randy. I worry that people put their lives on there, seemingly without a care for possible future consequences. It is hard to think beyond the immediacy of now when you're a teenager but, like tattoos, I think a lot of people will come to regret some of their Facebook/Instagram/whatever posts. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3790 Registered: 03-2005 |
Padraig, I used to assume that I would finally create a Facebook presence once I retire. I didn't care to put my business out there while I'm still working and I figured I wouldn't honestly be interested in maybe reconnecting with people from my distant past until I had the time to do something about it. Now I'm not so sure if I will do it at all. My former boss has really let his hair down on Facebook since his retirement and it's not pretty. Plus, the data-mining aspect of it has always bugged me. One problem for me with social media is that it can crowd out things that require more reflection and authentic participation. I still like to read books, even if I'm a bit bipolar about the practice. And I really do not intend to look on somebody's social media pages to learn what he or she's up to. We can have an actual conversation about it. No time for that? Ok, someone else then. | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 1383 Registered: 10-2006 |
I entered the F-book world solely to keep in touch with a mate of mine in Hong Kong who was the world’s worst letter-writer… it was a good to have a dialogue with him again, discuss new music, hear about life there, and so on. Then the bugger upped and died… the outpouring of grief, affection and respect from his students and ex-students was overwhelming, as were the photos of his funeral (ashes poured into the China sea) and “free auction” of his books & CDs (one of each to anyone who wanted…) Now his page is a commemoratory one which I still like to post the odd tune or comment on. So that got me into F-book, and gradually other people hunted me down, or were hunted down by me, and in the end a pretty rich network of information was coming in and going out, some funny, some serious. The nicest perhaps is being linked on to people I didn’t know at all, Scottish artists and photographers for instance, Spanish indie music fans, American TV nerds, all of whom often have interesting things to say or show. Probably in the end the input is too much and I can only see a small part of it, but it’s not uncontrollable. And, being very low-tech, I can still get surprised by stuff, like a sudden video call from my uncle in Perth (Oz version) at 8.30 one morning. In the end, it’s all about communication. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3791 Registered: 03-2005 |
So a definite positive experience for you Stuart. Your account of course gets me interested again. All moot until I actually do retire. | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 1386 Registered: 10-2006 |
The important thing is to maintain fairly strict control. I know people - nephews and nieces mainly - with F-book contacts in the several hundreds, and I've no idea how they deal with it, and even if they know half the people who can access their page. I placed a strict limit of 30 when I went on. Now I'm up to 63! More than enough. I have friends who curse F-book for not being a suitable forge for social revolution, but then neither is the pub, which is how I like to see it. It's a place to chat, joke, exchange news. There might be a few people you'd prefer to avoid, but then there usually is. You can always head for home! | ||
| peter ward Member Username: Peter_ward Post Number: 335 Registered: 06-2005 |
Andrew - thanks for tip above on new Peter Perrett, enjoying it. New Order - Age Of Consent | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3793 Registered: 03-2005 |
Some years ago Stuart posted an awesome video of a mid-60s song by Italian singer Ornella Vanoni. I tried to find it at the time and ended up with a deeply frustrating "re-recording" which of course had none of the appeal of the original. Finding CD versions of Vanoni's 60s albums is mind-bogglingly hard even though Ricordi reissued them all in 1999. For example I can get her 1965 album "Caldo" for the princely sum of 50 Euro! I may eventually break down and pay that. I can't get her 1966 album "Ornella" for love or money. But I was able to get her 1967 album "Ornella Vanoni" for a normal price. And from its program comes my very emphatic song of the day and every day this coming week: Il Mio Posto Qual'e' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvuOv9jn 2V0 | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 1388 Registered: 10-2006 |
Fantastic, Randy!!! | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3794 Registered: 03-2005 |
There is a god. The song Stuart posted many moons ago, "Una Ragione di Piu" proves to be on one of her easy-to-get albums, "L'appuntamento con . . ." The song is from 1969, the album from 1970. Back in the 50s & 60s the Italians were really on top of things so a 1970 album would usually mean that the songs and arrangements were starting to settle into the bland MOR style that became nearly universal globally for solo pop singers who did not write their own material. Thus "L'appuntamento" was on my list to buy eventually but not in a hurry. I hadn't previously checked the song list. Ordered now. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3795 Registered: 03-2005 |
Just saw your post Stuart. That song and arrangement are heroin for me. | ||
| Andreas Severins Member Username: Andreas_severins Post Number: 355 Registered: 11-2007 |
The Luxembourg Signal - She Loves To Feel The Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWts4jO 0og and their new single - Laura Palmer, lovely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lvr-rPI GRg | ||
| Andreas Severins Member Username: Andreas_severins Post Number: 356 Registered: 11-2007 |
Today: Sprinters - Figure It Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6G-IAbh r3c | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 448 Registered: 08-2005 |
The Teardrop Explodes - REWARD! (sorry for the shouting but it somehow deserves it) (Hope everybody's okay out there as the UK heads lemming-like towards post-Brexit oblivion. My wife and I will almost certainly be fine regardless, but I feel for a lot of people and worry for their futures - but they're likely to have been the people who voted for it. In the same way that should 'Obamacare' be repealed, those who voted for Trump may be those who suffer most. But that's all by the by, just listen to the 1980 Whistle Test version of Reward for an uplifting three minutes of pop gorgeousness. And relax!) |