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     Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8516 Registered: 05-2005 |
Uncle Tupelo - Outdone (demo) | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8517 Registered: 05-2005 |
Dirty Projectors - Break-Thru. Great song, brilliant video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYq5Ch-F Fcs | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1201 Registered: 04-2005 |
Revenge - 7 Reasons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9he50UR uLs Just waded through Peter Hook's book about New Order. Even as an (early period) fan it was a bit of a challenge (750 pages!). But I noticed his comment regarding this '89 single "I'd ripped off the Go-Betweens, one of my favourite bands ever, for the track" | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3885 Registered: 03-2005 |
Yes, very Grant. Except Grant would have used more chords and given it that je ne sais quoi. Incidentally, you do not want to know how much I had to fight with this stupid Apple computer to get it to let me type "je ne sais quoi." | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8519 Registered: 05-2005 |
Iceage - Pain Killer. Danish rock/punk/soul at its finest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8GJj8l AI8 | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3887 Registered: 03-2005 |
Thanks Padraig. Sounds remarkably like the Saints should have sounded if Ed Kuepper hadn't quit. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8521 Registered: 05-2005 |
That's a very good comparison, Randy. Good spot. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8522 Registered: 05-2005 |
Iceage - Hurrah | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 1445 Registered: 10-2006 |
John Lennon - Steel And Glass (Menlove Ave. version) This song popped out at an otherwise dire TV tribute concert I had to constantly fast forward through; couldn't remember ever having heard it before, though I have Walls & Bridges somewhere. But this earlier version is cooler, with some nice slithery guitar work and a great, great vocal. What a voice he had. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8526 Registered: 05-2005 |
Cathal Coughlan - Im Long Mé Measaim (a Flexidisc from 1989 - the Youtube link has the date wrong) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izPKq7RF RLk | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8528 Registered: 05-2005 |
Childish Gambino - This Is America. And this is genius. Single of the year is wrapped up already. You need to see the video to fully understand its power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4 cMY | ||
| Randy Adams Unregistered guest |
Lot of ouch value to that video Padraig. The truth hurts. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 1203 Registered: 04-2005 |
The Mekons - Revenge (Peel session version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CpdYRZc QLA&t=325s Many many moons ago I saw the Mekons play in Edinburgh. I knew virtually nothing about the band but it was one of the most enjoyable gigs I have ever seen. This song (sung by Sally Timms) was one of the highlights. Anyone seen the documentary "Revenge of the Mekons" ? | ||
| Fred Tadrowski Member Username: Ftadrowski Post Number: 76 Registered: 03-2015 |
Andrew, I have seen "Revenge of the Mekons" and it is very well made and enjoyable film. The Mekons like the Go-Betweens have a very devoted group of fans. I like the idea of a band where it is not possible for a member to get kicked out of - that you are in the band for life. Last year, the Mekons put on a festival for their 40th anniversary with sets containing their original and current members. | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 521 Registered: 08-2005 |
Andrew/Fred, I don't know the music of The Mekons, but in my former job - sub-editor on the science-fiction magazine SFX - I was regularly in contact with SF author and critic, and SFX columnist, David Langford, brother of The Mekons' Jon Langford. Maybe it's time to give them a listen... | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 522 Registered: 08-2005 |
And my song of the day, possibly not for the first time, is 'Where I Like to Stand' by Vashti Bunyan | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8530 Registered: 05-2005 |
Frightened Rabbit - The Woodpile. RIP Scott Hutchison, one of my favourite songwriters of the past 15 years. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018 /may/11/body-found-in-search-for-frighte ned-rabbit-singer-scott-hutchison | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 1068 Registered: 03-2007 |
Padraig, Such a tragedy. I am currently listening to the following. Owl John - A Good Reason To Grow Old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffAcO86e IZ8 | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 1069 Registered: 03-2007 |
Owl John - Los Angeles, Be Kind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teA5Yhqv OV4 Another track from his solo album which was recorded on the Isle Of Mull in 2014. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8531 Registered: 05-2005 |
It is, Hugh. Just dreadful news. The poor man, and his poor family, friends and bandmates. Frightened Rabbit - Swim Until You Can't See Land | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 1070 Registered: 03-2007 |
Padraig, A live acoustic version of the song recorded on Bondi Beach some years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6VpwcT_ 8HY As well as releasing the Owl John solo album he was also a member of Mastersystem whose debut album ( Dance Music ) has just been released here in the U.K. I am still waiting for my copy to arrive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0boT0Os xCE and a live performance at the BBC Quay Sessions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfMcz34R eFg | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3889 Registered: 03-2005 |
Typically for me I had no awareness of Frightened Rabbit. Partly that's just a function of how vast the music world is now, without the record label gatekeepers. Judging from the links, it will be the Owl John record that works for me. Less grungy. Was he bipolar? I ask because his weight gain from 26 to 36 is striking. It's a very common side effect of the meds conventionally used for that condition. My older brother was diagnosed bipolar 30 years ago. The meds blew him up and gave him diabetes. He also developed a serious tremor that will never go away. I've always felt the cure was as bad as the condition but I didn't have to live inside his head. I suppose it doesn't have to be bipolar meds. But I strongly suspect that Hutchison was on psych meds because it is unusual for a man to gain that much weight from 26 to 36, especially if he's touring and performing. I am reminded of the visible weight gain for Adrian Borland. I tend to have a natural attraction to musicians who ultimately destroy themselves, especially those who wore their internal discomfort on their sleeves like Gene Clark and Adrian Borland. Digging around inside yourself to make art can be psychologically risky. I found that for myself even with my little efforts. When I started writing songs for a new collection of recordings I came up with two pretty dark songs. One of them explored the feeling of never belonging. That was ok with me. But the other one was inspired by the obvious (and audible) internal organic misery of a woman living next door to me. She would spend entire weekends crying to her boyfriend who as far as I could tell was not at all abusive. He seemed to always be trying to placate her. I heard this and it was torture. It kept happening for months. It's one of the reasons I'm glad I moved out of my old house. I wrote a song in which I imagined her boyfriend suddenly reaching his personal limit of what he could take and abruptly jumping "over the embankment" and disappearing. I was projecting, of course. It was really about reaching the limit of what I could take. There's a section where the protagonist tries to off himself with a razor but in a failure of nerve drops it on the bathroom floor. I consider it a promising song that I would still like to finish and record but I decided I needed to take a break for my own wellbeing. I've literally been painting the two houses on my new property with tiny old fashioned brushes as slow therapy ever since but that job's finally nearly finished. My point is writing songs can be a surprisingly dangerous activity. Look at Grant. On one level, songwriting gave him a purpose and kept him going. But I also suspect his songwriting pulled him into interior spaces that he couldn't quite handle. He and Gene Clark passively killed themselves. Borland and I guess Scott Hutchison did it very actively. Or how about Billy MacKenzie? | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 1071 Registered: 03-2007 |
Randy, I cannot answer your question as I don't know much about his background other than he originated from Selkirk in the Borders and suffered from serious depression for a large part of his life. I loved his song writing but, like you, I did not always come to terms with how the band arranged the songs. I am a folky at heart and the heavy guitars / grunge did not always enhance them in my humble opinion. From a recording point of view " Sing Until You Can't See Land' was in the style that I most enjoyed. An absolute classic and I wish they had recorded more songs in a similar style. The exact circumstances of his death have not been reported but back in 2008 the band recorded the album 'The Midnight Organ Fight' which included the song 'Floating In The Forth.' Lyrics:- So you just stepped out of the front of my house and I'll never see you again. I closed my eyes for a second and when they opened you weren't there. And the door shut shut I was vacuum packed, shrink-wrapped out of air And the spine collapsed and the eyes rolled back to stare at my starving brain, And fully clothed, I float away (I'll float away) Down the Forth, into the sea I think I'll save suicide for another day. And I picture this corpse on the M8 hearse and I half run away to sleep On a rolled up coat against the window with the strobe of the sun and the life I've led am I ready to leap is there peace beneath the roar of the Forth road bridge? On the Northern side there's a Fife of mine and a boat in the port for me, And fully clothed, I float away (I'll float away) Down the Forth, into the sea I'll steer myself through drunken waves these manic gulls scream it's okay take your life give it a shake gather up all your loose change I think I'll save suicide for another year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_FXtYgJ z4k His body was apparently found in Queensberry which is a little village on the banks of the Firth of Forth close to Edinburgh. The M8 is the motorway that runs between Edinburgh and Glasgow. His passing has had more of an effect on me than that of many artists with far greater reputations. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8532 Registered: 05-2005 |
Given the nature of this thread, I think it might be useful to include some crisis line numbers. In Australia, the crisis support service Lifeline is on 13 11 14. In the UK, Samaritans can be contacted on 116 123. Other international helplines can be found at www.befrienders.org | ||
| Austin Member Username: Bruegelpie Post Number: 181 Registered: 09-2004 |
Frightened Rabbit was one of my favorite bands, and I always saw them when I could, bought the albums when they were released, etc.. I saw them for the first time at the Latitude festival where Robert appeared back in 2010. Frabbit had drawn a very large crowd, and completely blew me away. In a live setting I found the songs cathartic, with the audience singing along, booming and powerful. I was an instant fan. Many of Scott's songs were desperate, but glimmers of hope could be found in a large number of them. This is just incredibly, incredibly sad | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8533 Registered: 05-2005 |
I never saw them live. I watched the video of them on Bondi Beach that Hugh linked to above, so obviously they played Australia. I think it was at a time when I wasn't going to many gigs, certainly not as many as I go to now. I wish I had gone. Song of the day is Saint Etienne's brilliant cover of I'm Too Sexy. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1887 Registered: 08-2006 |
I didn't know Frightened Rabbit, except their name, but I'm damn sorry to hear this news, and I'm really sorry for Austin and anyone else around here who was a big fan. It's an awful loss. I think artists are prime examples of how corrosive and powerful and destructive depression, bi-polar disorder and other mental health issues are. Musicians, for example, are told to their face and repeatedly that their work has value, that it's loved - in a way the rest of us never receive - and still, sometimes it's not near enough. This is simplistic to say, but mental health treatment is piss-poor everywhere, not just the U.S. People either don't understand it or underestimate it. It ruins lives in a million different ways and takes countless more lives than we ever know, because only a small fraction actually come down to suicide. It's a tragedy and it's happening in real time all around us. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8536 Registered: 05-2005 |
I meant to say before that I agree with what Hugh said above: His passing has had more of an effect on me than that of many artists with far greater reputations. Frightened Rabbit - Skip The Youth (for the "woo, woo" backing vocals, and everything else) | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 1072 Registered: 03-2007 |
Padraig, I know you are Waterboys / Whole Of The Moon fan so I am wondering if you ever came across this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvEkgywR CLE | ||
| ric Unregistered guest |
re: Jon Langford (above) - he covered 'Streets' at Green Man a few years ago. My pre-teen daughter spotted it before I did  | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8540 Registered: 05-2005 |
Hugh, I had never seen that before. It is just wonderful. What a fantastic, powerful version. Thanks for the link. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8542 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Twin Cadillac Valentine 7" (it has two great live tracks on the b-side too). | ||
| Fred Tadrowski Member Username: Ftadrowski Post Number: 77 Registered: 03-2015 |
I never knew that Jon Langford was a Go-Betweens fan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9UdOGiT qZ4 | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8547 Registered: 05-2005 |
Half Man Half Biscuit - Mr Cave's A Window Cleaner Now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YeqJCcH Y4Y | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8548 Registered: 05-2005 |
Fred, thanks for that link. What a great introduction he gives to the song. Good version too. | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 1074 Registered: 03-2007 |
Padraig, Talk about coincidence. I actually watched the Half Man Half Biscuit video a few hours before you posted. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 8550 Registered: 05-2005 |
Great minds, Hugh. | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 523 Registered: 08-2005 |
You've gotta luv Half Man Half Biscuit (and my sloppy English is deliberate here), a band I discovered way back in the days of vinyl (oh yessss!). Seen them many times and always entertaining, which is why my song of the day is... ... Pink Frost, by the ever-fabulous Chills. I thank you! | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 3899 Registered: 03-2005 |
The iPod pitched up Pink Frost for me on the drive home this past Friday. I love hearing familiar favorites like PF after they've had a long rest. I marveled anew at the unorthodox intro and structure and wondered how it was received when it was new. I was a very late arrival and didn't hear it until it was about 20 years old. Half Man Half Biscuit is still a bit of a cultural stretch for me, though I did pick up one of their reissues a couple years ago. There's just too much that goes right by me. For specifically U.K. quirkiness, I seem to have only made it as far as the Television Personalities as of now. I love their early period. | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 524 Registered: 08-2005 |
HMHB biscuit's cultural references are often parochial to say the least, such as a Liverpudlian bike shop (A Lilac Harry Quinn) and sundry other obscure cycling references, as well as vast swathes of popular culture with a very British theme - 'F***in Hell, it's Fred Titmus' refers to a not especially famous England cricketer, '99 Per Cent of Gargoyles Look Like Bob Todd' name-checks one of the cast of Benny Hill, and so it goes on. Not surprised that some of it doesn't travel too well culturally. They're also very entertaining live, having learnt to play their instruments over the years! | ||
| Billy Unregistered guest |
Fred Titmus is probably best known for losing four toes in a boat's propeller on tour in the West Indies. What is not so well known is that his first class career spanned five decades. Now where did I put my Dukla Prague away kit....... | ||
| Burgers Member Username: Burgers Post Number: 92 Registered: 05-2005 |
You haven’t missed much with HMHB, Randy. They’re pretty dull and how often can you listen to joke songs? File alongside similar one-joke bands such as the Macc Lads, the Barron Knights and the Beatles. | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 526 Registered: 08-2005 |
Burgers, the Beatles! You jest, sir! Though it made me chuckle, and I think they're head and shoulders above both the Macc Lads and the Barron Knights. I'd suggest, without trying to add to over-egg the mix, that there's more depth to HMHB's music than it's often given credit for. It probably helps me that HMHB is of a similar age and I have a lot of common interests with their songwriter: football, sport in general, cycling, lots of aspects of popular culture, and I like their jaded, cynical eye, along with their nice grasp of the English language. | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 528 Registered: 08-2005 |
Orkestra Obsolete's version of Blue Monday played on instruments from the 1930s or earlier. This is genius! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLbaOLW jpc |