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Pádraig Collins
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Username: Pádraig_collins

Post Number: 8794
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 08:53 am:   

To all our UK friends: I hope Britain isn't a desolate wasteland with zombies prowling the streets tonight after THE VOTE. Buy some tinned goods and bottled water at lunchtime, just to be on the safe side.
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Andrew Kerr
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Username: Andrew_k

Post Number: 1260
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 08:43 pm:   

What a mess. What a terrible situation in the sense that even the opposition wants to leave. Or at least its leader does.

My application for French citzenship is still making its laborious route through the administrative system. Hopefully I'll get a successful result before being turfed out !
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Randy Adams
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Username: Randy_adams

Post Number: 4044
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 09:16 pm:   

I feel so bad for all the young people in the U.K. as well as for folks like you Andrew. Futures are being flung into the wind. Obnoxiously, it's all likely to suit the purposes of the racist rightwingers in places like the States and Oz because if the U.K. actually does leave there will be a measurable talent drain of educated young people from the U.K.. They'll head everywhere but obviously particularly to other parts of the anglosphere. I can hear Trumpie already: "now, THESE are the type of immigrants we want!"

Andrew, haven't the French already said they'd let existing residents stay?
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Rob Brookman
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Username: Rob_b

Post Number: 1936
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 11:57 pm:   

Good 'ol Philip Larkin:

And that will be England gone,
The shadows, the meadows, the lanes,
The guildhalls, the carved choirs.
There’ll be books; it will linger on
In galleries; but all that remains
For us will be concrete and tyres.

Most things are never meant.
This won’t be, most likely; but greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.
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Andrew Kerr
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Username: Andrew_k

Post Number: 1262
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 08:14 pm:   

Randy,

In answer to your question yes...as long as Britain offers French nationals similar rights. But who knows what will happen ?

Personally I'm in a situation where I find it very hard to imagine ever returning to the UK to live. Spoilt by the wonderful weather in the SW. I would also like the right to vote in all elections which I don't currently have.

The French allow dual nationality (not the case in Spain for example) so I wouldn't even be losing my British passport.

As you say it is terrible for the young people. My son went back to Edinburgh (the city of his birth) to work as an intern at the Uni over the summmer. Something which may well be impossible after Brexit.
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Stuart Wilson
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Username: Stuart

Post Number: 1519
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 03:48 pm:   

I handed my papers in a few weeks ago, Andrew. They were photocopied, they were signed, they were legalised, they were translated, the translations were signed and legalised, they were all in separate plastic folders and labelled and slipped into my backpack. I felt cool and confident. But it was below zero in the streets and like a tropical glasshouse in the police station and after a two hour wait I was feeling sick and nauseous. By the time my turn came I was in a sort of malarial sweat. I got all the documents mixed up, was told I hadn’t written my parents’ names correctly and completely, and, worst of all, I hadn’t photocopied the backs of all the certificates, which had little stamps and pen squiggles on them. The guy, with immense patience, told me I should go and find a place to photocopy the bits I’d missed, but by then I was sure I was about to faint, so I said I’d make a new appointment and come back another day. After failing to convince me that I could get it done quite easily somewhere in the centre, and perhaps seeing that I was on the point of slithering moistly to the floor, he sighed and took all my bumf and did the copying himself. He made a few notes, possibly to the effect that the applicant seemed to have no clear idea who his parents were, and said I’d be hearing from him in about 11 months. The freezing air outside cured me wonderfully and I went off for a prosecco and then to the record shop. Will the horrors of Italian politics be any saner by the time I get to vote? We shall see.
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Burgers
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Username: Burgers

Post Number: 97
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 10:32 pm:   

In the 2017 General Election 83.3% of votes were cast for parties standing on manifesto pledges to leave the Fourth Reich.

Every single one of the 26.8m was a thick racist.

According to you clowns.
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Pádraig Collins
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Username: Pádraig_collins

Post Number: 8796
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 11:14 pm:   

The only person who made any reference to Germany is you. I’m sure someone such as yourself, too scared of the world to use your real name, would be happier on a forum more closely aligned to your political beliefs and desire for anonymity.
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Jerry Clark
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Username: Jerry

Post Number: 1264
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 05:23 am:   

I'm afraid England has already long gone. Larkin hit the nail on the head. It's only the disenfranchised parts of the union that are holding the UK together. Thanks to the Northern Irish, Scots, Welsh, Manx, Isle Of Wightians and oddly the DUP. I'm stocking up on whole chickens currently. don't want any of that chlorinated shite.
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Stuart Wilson
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Username: Stuart

Post Number: 1520
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 11:24 am:   

Darn it, I missed the post where someone called Brexit supporters "thick racists". But the level of aggression on this board is truly shocking sometimes. I have highly intelligent friends on both sides of the Brexit barricades and when I was back home listened to them discussing the issue without insulting either each other or other European countries. Strange, but true. I don't consider myself a clown, though I do occasionally like to try to amuse. As with Scottish independence, if Brexit means the country will be a safer, happier, richer and more equitable place than it is today, nobody will be happier than myself and my fellow Italians.
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Randy Adams
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Username: Randy_adams

Post Number: 4045
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 10:55 pm:   

Maybe Burgers was misdirected by my general reference to "racist rightwingers" in the U.S. and Oz in my post above. They do exist, my country's current President being the highest profiled among them. No such comment was made about the Brexit voters though.

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