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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9187
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2020 - 05:35 am:   

The Carnival Brothers - The Sun Is Gonna Shine. A great, Irish pop single that should have been a hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IhaLm02 n9Y&feature=youtu.be
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Andreas Severins
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Post Number: 466
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2020 - 11:47 am:   

Van Morrison - Cyprus Avenue
One of the many highlights of Astral Weeks.

More than 50 years ago now...
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Hugh Nimmo
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Post Number: 1256
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2020 - 07:06 pm:   

Padraig, Do you know what happened to them? I found seven songs on Bandcamp recorded between 2014 / 2015 but, as far as I can tell, they have never released anything on CD or Vinyl. The last entry on their Facebook page was July, 2018.

Close Lobsters - Godless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ilQdNl K7M
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9188
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 04:29 am:   

Hugh, the only member I know anything about is Duncan Maitland, who was previously in other Dublin bands Picturehouse and Pugwash. He also released one solo album in 2010, Lullabies For The 21st Century, which is a lost classic. Not that I know much even about him. I discovered just yesterday that he’s originally from Stoke, though he has lived in Dublin since 1994.
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Andreas Severins
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Post Number: 468
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 11:27 am:   

Close lobsters sound fine to me.
Very fresh and in good form.
Can't wait to receive the album.

Thx Hugh for the hint ;)
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1686
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 03:13 pm:   

Nadia Reid - Heart to ride

Know nothing about this lass except that she's from NZ, has a slightly odd accent, with a slight hiss on the "s", and a low, dark golden whisper of a voice, reigned in from being too Joniesque (who she might be addressing in the first verse?), and that there's a moment in the song where the strings drop out just before the chorus and you feel someone's just nudged you off a cliff. Fifth time of playing and probably about to be played again, haven't got to grips with the lyrics yet, but the last line is inexpressibly moving.
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Hugh Nimmo
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Post Number: 1257
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 03:49 pm:   

Padraig, Thank you. Since there has been no new material released since 2015 and their Facebook page has not been updated since July, 2018, I am inclined to think that they have called it a day. I purchased the seven tracks on Bandcamp.

Andreas, The Close Lobsters seemingly got back together around 2014 but it has taken them till now to release an album. They recorded / released a couple of tracks on Shelflife Records in 2014 and other two for the same label in 2016. These four tracks plus six recorded in 2019 make up the album. It is very good and I will be surprised if you don't enjoy it.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1687
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 - 09:34 am:   

Imam Baildi - Lullaby

A cool, rain-washed, brassy instrumental from a Greek band that specialises, apparently, in mixing up old urban popular song with world music flourishes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psQTUEIq tTA
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9192
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 - 10:32 am:   

Deadbeat Beat - Tree, Grass & Stone. The Paisley Underground sound updated 40 years on.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9194
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 - 10:01 pm:   

Daði Freyr - Think About Things (Daði og Gagnamagnið)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZNvj-H fBU&feature=youtu.be
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1688
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2020 - 04:51 pm:   

Idles - Danny Nedelko

I enjoyed this today, channelling Clash-like energy and a cheerful video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkF_G-RF 66M&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1Xw3yA5F5sK Ed8MKmWOo-d9SPMmz5RxT6JqC9kTXmwFaPmEKKdU 5sVwZY
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Andreas Severins
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Post Number: 470
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 - 11:45 am:   

Echo & the Bunnymen - All my Colours of the Peel Sessions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-lHYt0g G0g
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 4339
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 - 03:51 pm:   

Orbweavers -- Poison Garden

A sexy, spooky and funny favorite of mine from these Aussie originals. It seems somehow more relevant than ever and not only as I work with the oddball plants in my yard newly given over to California natives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwpZnOHv BK0
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9203
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 05:45 am:   

Robert Forster - Sympathy For The Devil. I had entirely forgotten about this rock/disco gem until an out of the blue email reminded me of it last week. Mercifully, the file was on the first external hard drive I checked.
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Andreas Severins
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Post Number: 471
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 07:34 am:   

Hi Padraig,
found this on youtube:

The Global Twins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arJvUdtb mZA
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1689
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:44 am:   

Morrissey – Everyday is like Sunday

Well, because it is, at the moment, here in Lockdown Land, a strangely spectral city with a scattering of masked wanderers in the ironically lovely weather, where only the dogs, stretching to the full extent of their leads, can dance and socialise, while we owners wave to each other politely from what we hope is a safe distance. All very sad and weird and fingers crossed for everyone and that it passes sooner rather than later.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9204
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 06:32 pm:   

Thanks, Andreas. Good find.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 4340
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 07:49 pm:   

Padraig, I think you are the person who sent me a copy of Forster's version years ago. It's a great camp classic, what with Robert Forster's delivery just about the polar opposite of Mick Jagger. If you ever saw the movie "Lolita," Forster's vocal delivery makes me think of the hilariously mannered dancing by Peter Sellers' version of the Clare Quilty character.

Stuart, I've wondered many times what it's like where you are. Italia has been hit incredibly hard. Even a couple weeks ago, my vintage Lancia parts guy told me that his source in Italia was unable to go to his warehouse to get a part and ship it out because of the more limited lockdown in effect at that time. Sadly, we're ALL going to have to adopt the "social distance" routine you and your neighbors are practicing. Re your reference to the dogs, I have a neighbor with a Schnautzer that's my best canine bud--in the past I've always let him lick me on the face--and now I have to treat him like a comparative stranger?!?! Very sad and weird indeed.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1690
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Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2020 - 08:20 am:   

No, it's ok, Randy, you can let the mutt lick you all you want... not the neighbour, though.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1693
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2020 - 10:59 am:   

Band of gold - Bring back

Chosen by standup Ed Byrne on the radio this morning, the first few minutes are quite ho-hum nice but then around 4.00 things kick in splendidly, especially the drumming, and drive it to a pretty glorious conclusion.

https://bandofgoldmusic.bandcamp.com/tra ck/bring-back
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1694
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2020 - 03:12 pm:   

Nadia Reid - Oh Canada

This came keening through the flat from four rooms away and I knew I had to listen to it again, even before I realised who it was. Voice of the moment for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1eqMmEt hdc
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Mark Leydon
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Post Number: 353
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2020 - 08:53 pm:   

Five Years - David Bowie
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Burgers
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 07:17 pm:   

Petra Haden - Roving Woman

A cover of the Connie Converse song. Nat Johnson did a very good cover of this song but Petra’s is something else. It’s from a very patchy tribute album called Vanity of Vanities. Margaret Glaspy who is/was due to tour the UK also has a great cover on the album.

I was inspired to check this out by Dana Gavanski saying she wrote Memories of Winter about Converse when I saw her recently.
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TROU
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Post Number: 488
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 12:55 pm:   

Don't touch anything - Robert Forster warns us on The Evangelist.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1698
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 01:29 pm:   

Too right...

Copper – virus completely gone in 4 hours

Cardboard – gone in 24 hrs

Stainless steel – 48 hrs

Plastic – 72 hrs

Latest info here in Italy! My Amazon packs are stacking in the stairwell...
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 4347
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Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 03:28 am:   

Maybe there will be another run on copper. Stuart, be well.

For my song of the day, an old nugget. A little bit sea shanty and a little bit "Waltzing Mathilda" and still wonderful 34 years after it was recorded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1D4vqjK hL4
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9207
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 07:52 am:   

Good call, Randy. And very clever to not name the song, thus ensuring curiosity will get the better of us.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9210
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 07:05 am:   

Muireann Nic Amhlaoibh - Port na bPúcaí. A singer from a Gaelic-speaking part of Ireland (one of my grandmothers was also from there). Her name, by the way, is pronounced Mwir-ann Nick Ow-live (we like to put a lot of extraneous letters into our names due a historical fear of the English taking away our vowels).
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 4348
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 04:16 pm:   

Having seen what happened to the Welsh?
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9212
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 11:08 pm:   

Yes. St Patrick, who was from Wales, warned our ancestors about perfidious Albion.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1701
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Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 08:21 am:   

Coco - Empty beach

The Wyse Blood lass under another name, apparently, this is an extraordinarily lovely feather-light thingie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYIuspe t2Y
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1702
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Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 08:23 am:   

Morrissey - JIm jim falls

He gets the best reviews he's had in about a decade and releases the new album into pestilential oblivion. This is a rousing tune and a pungent lyric
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9213
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 08:37 am:   

I’ve been to Jim Jim Falls. Still not enough to make me want to hear the song. I will check out Coco, though. Thanks for the tip Stuart.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9215
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 08:52 am:   

Stiff Little Fingers - Two Guitars Clash. A few years ago I interviewed Jake Burns of SLF and asked him if they still played Two Guitars Clash. “Oh, no we can’t, that’s Henry’s song,” he replied. He was referring to Henry Cluney, who left the band in 1993. It was a lovely little Spinal Tap moment for me, though I’m fairly sure Burns didn’t think so.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9219
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - 08:08 am:   

The Zebras - Desert Island. Brisbane band, nice people and Go-Betweens fans.
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 1339
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 - 04:35 pm:   

Manu Dibango - The Panther

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeVaXbhb UAQ

RIP...heard an old interview on French radio yesterday...he had some great stories to tell
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9224
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2020 - 08:29 am:   

M/A/R/R/S - Pump Up The Volume
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1703
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2020 - 09:31 am:   

Les inrockuptibles are doing a "confinement song" per day and kicked off with this pretty obvious contender from the excellent Miossec:

https://www.lesinrocks.com/2020/03/17/mu sique/musique/track-of-confinement-1-en- quarantaine-de-miossec/

I think in the past I always heard the title as "In Carentan" and connected it instinctively with the great Louis Simpson war poem of almost the same name. The dreamy idiocy of listening to music in a foreign tongue! There is a little text to go with each song, so in recompense I will try and flog my Higher French through it.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1704
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Posted on Friday, March 27, 2020 - 10:12 am:   

Bob D releases a new(ish) song for the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgSgZjRp 5YA
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9226
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2020 - 10:16 am:   

I'm having another one, just because.

A friend of mine recommended this, describing it as "a cross between Go-Betweens and Bhundu Boys". And damn if he isn't right. Sacred Paws - Everyday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzY9ccn1 3w8

Hugh, are you a fan?
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 4354
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2020 - 04:28 pm:   

Thanks for the Dylan link. I saw the Guardian article earlier. I had to hear it to get past my skepticism.
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 1340
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2020 - 06:39 pm:   

That Dylan song is just plain weird. I was about to turn it off after the first 30 seconds...but stuck with it and by the end found it strangely very moving.
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 1341
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Posted on Friday, March 27, 2020 - 06:49 pm:   

Bob Dylan - Most of the Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQbr4ISr jII

This was about the last Dylan song that I liked...and it is a great one. Heads and shoulders above anything else on 'Oh Mercy'.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1706
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2020 - 09:13 am:   

Doves - Kingdom of rust

Another band I know the name of but never really paid much attention to, but this song, just radioed at this very moment. is as mighty as they come. If the rest of the album is up to this standard, must be a true classic... surely the board will know?
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9228
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2020 - 12:34 pm:   

Stuart, I have their four albums but have not played any of them in many years. I think I always expected to like them more than I actually did. You might be best to start with their fairly comprehensive best of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Places _Between:_The_Best_of_Doves#Critical_rec eption
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Hugh Nimmo
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Post Number: 1261
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2020 - 01:38 pm:   

Stuart, I am not familiar with the band but a five album set is available from an Amazon MarketPlace Seller ( Dodax based in Switzerland ) for less than twice the price of the Best Of.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/5-Album-Set-Dov es/dp/B0092YHGUW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&key words=the+doves&qid=1585402458&s=music&s r=1-4
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1707
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Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2020 - 01:53 pm:   

Hugh, that's a good deal! I use Dodax a lot, usually their prices simply add shipping to equal the Amazon price, so if you're just ordering one item it's pretty fair. Plus from Switzerland shipping is quite straightforward to Italy. They also do classical stuff. The last disc I ordered never actually arrived (first time!) so they sent me out a replacement and told me that if the original one turns up, keep it as a present.
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Hugh Nimmo
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Post Number: 1262
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2020 - 02:15 pm:   

Stuart, At the price, the Box Set is probably a better buy than the Best Of which does not feature the track 'Kingdom Of Rust.' I checked my Amazon account and I have been using Dodax since 2010. The service has always been very good although shipping times to the U.K. are not the quickest. My last order with them was for Daggdjur by Sakert! which I took delivery of yesterday.

My song of the day :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xecy8_jx 4XY
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9229
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2020 - 06:55 pm:   

Kingdom Of Rust is track 6 on the best of.
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 1708
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 10:30 am:   

Thanks, lads. Obviously I have a weakness for a certain type of rockabilly beat, don't know why, maybe the Smiths thing. 5 albums is probably a few too many, but on the other hand, at this price, one just has to hope there will be a handful of other decent songs scattered through them. I am not a fan of "best of" albums in general, I can't stand the production differences and so on, I like to hear an organic sound throughout. This despite the fact that the first ever non-prog album I think I bought was The Songs of Lou Reed and the VU, which was a sort of best of, though it only covered a couple of albums and sounded pretty organic anyway. This lockdown thing really breeds babble, don't it.
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Hugh Nimmo
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Post Number: 1263
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 03:24 pm:   

Padraig / Stuart, Apologies. I don't know how I missed that.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 9230
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 08:03 pm:   

It’s the unprecedented times, Hugh. I think we’re all so focused on avoiding coronavirus that almost everything else fades into insignificance. And rightly so. An album’s track list is of zero importance compared to our health. (I think I’ve been confined too long; I’m rambling. But it is 6am where I am, so that’s my excuse.)
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TROU
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Post Number: 490
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 01:38 pm:   

The Rolling Blackouts are back :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB6_zFW4 c30&feature=emb_title&utm_source=sendinb lue&utm_campaign=nl_magic_0104&utm_mediu m=email
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Hugh Nimmo
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Post Number: 1264
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 07:11 pm:   

The Black Watch - Brilliant Failures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mhPAXJF ctE

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