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cosmo vitelli
Member Username: Cosmo
Post Number: 230 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 11:27 am: | |
The Thirteenth Floor Elevators - 7th Heaven The Complete Singles Collection Awesome! |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1754 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 07:02 am: | |
Flowing naturally from a Television/Tom Verlaine binge into a Richard Hell binge: Blank Generation Destiny Street R.I.P. Spurts |
Andreas Severins
Member Username: Andreas_severins
Post Number: 131 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 03:22 pm: | |
Hi Allen, have you heared Destiny Street Repaired? When Blank Generation came out it was one of the albums I loved the most. The follower Destiny Street was not as good for me in these days. When I heared of the plan of "Destiny Street Repaired" I was really excited. ...and I have to say that not every version is better than the original but the new version is really wonderful - much more powerful. And Richard sounds even better today than in his early years. I would like to see him in a concert! Let's hope! |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1755 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 06:45 pm: | |
Haven't heard it yet, Andreas, but I've got it on order and am definitely looking forward to it. |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1731 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:57 pm: | |
On random setting: We Get Requests - The Oscar Peterson Trio Look Out! - Stanley Turrentine The Real McCoy - McCoy Tyner (with Elvin Jones, Ron Carter and Joe Henderson, Highly recommended!) Somethin' Else - Cannonball Adderly (with Miles Davis, Hank Jones, Sam Jones ans Art Blakey, Highly, highly recommended!!) Blue & Sentimental - Ike Quebec |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1757 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:01 pm: | |
Back to immersing in Television's Adventure. The more I listen the more I'm certain: as fine a record in its way as Marquee Moon is in its. |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 990 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:09 pm: | |
I'll have to give Destiny Street a go. Karen O & The Kids - Where The Wild Things Are OST Hush Arbors - Yankee Reality VA - Reggae Chartbusters Vol 1 |
Lewisdhead
Member Username: Lewisdhead
Post Number: 53 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 07:51 pm: | |
The Acorn-Glory Hope Mountain Arbouretum-Song Of The Pearl |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1737 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 09:18 pm: | |
Just arrived in the post and I'm listening to: Bobby Hutcherson - Happenings Steve Earle - Jerusalem The Replacements - Pleased To Meet Me (Rhino reissue with extra tracks) |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 991 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 05:18 pm: | |
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs Grace Jones - Compass Point Sessions Hot Chip - One Life Stand Smokey Robinson - Master Series |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1741 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 07:00 pm: | |
Jerry, I go back and forth on Rain Dogs and Frank's Wild Years being my favorite Tom Waits of the handful I own. I have yet to pick up the first album of the trilogy, swordfishtrombones, which will probably be the next one I get. The other ones I have are Small Change, Bone Machine and Mule Variations. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1878 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 08:30 pm: | |
Michael, that McCoy Tyner album is wonderful, isn't it! |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1743 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 09:49 pm: | |
Jeff, Yes it is. It's my favorite Tyner along with Trident. I wish some lable would remaster Trident. I just bought another Blue Note RVG reissue McCoy Tyner cd that hasn't arrived yet, Time For Tyner. TFT has Bobby Hutcherson on vibes but the rhythm lacks the whallop of Trident and The Real McCoy's Elvin Jones and Ron Carter with Herbie Lewis on bass and Freddie Waits on drums. |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 993 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 01:07 pm: | |
Rain Dogs is my first attempt at giving Tom Waits a try. Suffice to say it's won me over. I've got Swordfish... too. He's quite vibrant & upbeat The complete opposite to what I was expecting. Have I made the mistake of starting with his best work & everything else will pale & disappoint? Time will tell... R.E.M. - Live At The Olympia - 2.5 hours of fun. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1758 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 03:55 pm: | |
My guess is that if you liked those two you'll go for much of his post-Swordfish stuff as well (the pre-Swordfish stuff is another story...for me a good compilation of that era suffices). Rain Dogs was my favorite for a long time, but Mule Variations supplanted it. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1879 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 05:06 pm: | |
Jerry, in my ever so humble opinion, yes, you have started with the best, but that's not to say that everything else is crap. Personally, I've never been much of a fan of 70s Tom Waits, save for Small Change and the odd track here or there. I think you'll be better off going forward through his post-Rain Dogs output. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1760 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 05:10 am: | |
Richard Hell - Destiny Street Repaired The most fragile and earnest of the great CBGB art-punks, which gave his yearning for transcendance added poignance and weight, even when he was diving headfirst into addiction. He was also the most self-conscious and -critical of his own work, hence the Spurts compilation, and now this. He says the title was the best he could arrive at, and I don't agree with it...IMO the original stands up very well. But, boy, so does this. I made up a CD-R today with each song side-by-side, and the comparisons are fascinating and great fun. It's also nice to hear him singing out again, instead of directly into his chin, as he seemed to be doing on the Dim Stars album. Either way, it's a fine batch of songs backed with a shitload of great guitar. What more could you want? |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1745 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 02:10 pm: | |
Jerry, Allen's choice of Mule Variations as being his favorite is a great pick. I would recommend it or Frank's Wild Years as your next purchase. I don't own it, but I've listened to Alice a few times and remember it fondly. |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 995 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 03:41 pm: | |
Thanks guys. |
David Gagen
Member Username: David_g
Post Number: 292 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 12:40 am: | |
Jerry, of the earlier albums I'd suggest Blue Valentine, some amazing songs on that album. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2256 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 04:08 am: | |
Roky Erickson--The Best of . . . Ok, I'm going to have to do some judicious skipping here. Things like "Bermuda" and "I Have Always Been Here Before" are the reason I've put this on but I forgot about tubby Chuck Berry retreads like "Don't Shake Me Lucifer." |
frank bascombe
Member Username: Frankb
Post Number: 462 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 04:07 pm: | |
Even the first LP has its moments can there be a better song than Martha, or Ol'55. Raindogs and Swordfist are my faves earlier one are more Jazz based but non the worse for that Blue Valentine Small Change are good and the compilation TW "Early Years " has most of the better stuff on. Of the more recent stuff I like Alice, and the triple decker Bastards is a interesting and worth it. |
peter ward
Member Username: Peter_ward
Post Number: 109 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 09:25 am: | |
Jerry, pick up a copy of Barney Hopkins "Low Side Of The Road" and work you're way through them chronologically. Rediscovered a lot of songs when I did this last year and it's an interesting road finishing up at The Glitter and Doom tour of the Summer before last. Swordfishtrombones is still my favourite and while he has some surefire classic albums from beginning to end even the mid to late seventies patch where things got a bit samey produced at least a few brilliant songs on each album. I'd be envious of anybody starting out to listen to them all with fresh ears.. enjoy! |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1765 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:11 pm: | |
tUnE-yArDs - BiRd-BrAiNs Television -s/t Curtis Mayfield - The Anthology The xx - xx |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3372 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:50 pm: | |
Very early Triffids songs available as free downloads from here http://www.dominorecordco.com/triffidsro ad/ |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 998 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 04:01 pm: | |
Sorry Peter I'm not that disciplined. I'm gonna enjoy dipping in & out of Waits' ouevre. One day I'll find out what ouevre means & how it's spelt. Jayhawks - Music From The North Country Iggy & The Stooges - Raw Power Rolling Stones - Black & Blue New Young Pony Club - Fantastic Playroom |
cosmo vitelli
Member Username: Cosmo
Post Number: 236 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:33 am: | |
Teenage Fanclub : Man-made I hadnt listened to this for a couple of years and forgot how f***ing brilliant it is |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 332 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:34 am: | |
The In Kraut - "Hip shaking grooves from Germany 1966 - 1974" is the subtitle, and it's one of most purely pleasurable things I've heard for ages - big beefy horns & organ heavy tunes with a very John Barry feel, especially Heidi Bruhl's Nancy Sinatraish ode to the naughty ambience of "Berlin." IRM - Charlotte Gainsboroug, who has got Beck to help her out. I think this will be a grower. Cut - the Splits. deluxe etc. Good to hear this again, although I think I got it mixed up with the Raincoat's moving on. Wowee Zowee - sordid sentinals edition - One of my favourite things by Pavement, hopefully as a taster for their concert in may. Kicking Television - Wilco. Especially Hell is Chrome with its searing minimalist guitar solo and lovely vocal. Why, however, should it be considered "dignified" to travel from Kansas City to Chicago to see the band?? |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3376 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 01:18 am: | |
Midlake - Denton Sessions EP |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3377 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 01:34 am: | |
Field Music - Measure. It's rather wonderful and gets better with every listen. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2262 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 02:55 am: | |
David Kilgour & the Heavy Eights |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3378 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:28 am: | |
Various Taken By Trees songs. |
frank bascombe
Member Username: Frankb
Post Number: 463 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:05 pm: | |
Relistening to all the Elvis Costello CDs in no particular order. My favourite so far is Blood and Chocolate. not listened to anything earlier than Imperial Bedroom yet. |
frank bascombe
Member Username: Frankb
Post Number: 464 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:06 pm: | |
Relistening to all the Elvis Costello CDs in no particular order. My favourite so far is Blood and Chocolate. not listened to anything earlier than Imperial Bedroom yet. Also liking the new Massive Attack |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1749 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 10:43 pm: | |
Allen, I haven't played that 1992 s/t Television album in years. Same with Lindsey Buckingham's Out Of The Cradle. I must have been lost in all the shoegazer albums I was listening to back then and forgot about them which was typical aside from listening to Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend and the last two tracks from Automatic For The People (during the last few months of 1992). |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3382 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 07:34 am: | |
Word magazine - Best of the Decade compilation. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1768 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:45 pm: | |
That s/t Television sounds better than ever to me, Michael...might be a little residual affection spilling over from my recent love-binge on their other albums, but I don't think so. Not a classic like the first two, but up there with Verlaine's best solo albums. |
skulldisco
Member Username: Skulldisco
Post Number: 573 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:52 pm: | |
i played television s/t after the comments here. nothing special compared to the first two albums, but call mr lee and no glamour for willi are excellent. dont know why, but this album always reminds me of luna, with tom verlaine on vocals |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1769 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 01:25 am: | |
I can see that...the vocals are just as laid-back at times, as is the atmosphere. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3385 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:17 pm: | |
I really like Television's 1992 record too. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3386 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:20 pm: | |
Last night I played the xx and Leisure Society albums. I loved the former and really liked the latter. Thanks to whoever here bigged up The xx. I think Kevin did and there were others too. It really is a stunning record. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1770 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:04 pm: | |
I'm spending plenty of time with that one, myself. |
David Gagen
Member Username: David_g
Post Number: 293 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 01:52 am: | |
The Baker's Son - Birds of Tokyo |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1750 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 01:15 pm: | |
Kevin and Allen, yes, the sound of the 1992 Television album is very lunaesque. Another album from 1992 is next up, The Boo Radleys - Everything's All Right Forever. A few of the highly regarded albums from 1992 that I've missed out on: Nick Cave - Henry's Dream, Sugar - Copper Blue, Leonard Cohen - The Future, XTC - Nonsuch, James - Seven. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2264 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 08:35 pm: | |
I confess that "Henry's Dream" is the Cave album that made me stop buying his records for a decade. My perception was that he had fallen into a fixed formula by that time. It seemed the same as "The Good Son" and even "Mercy Seat" but those two albums were better. If you haven't bought "Henry's Dream" yet, Michael, I wouldn't hurry. |
Geoff Holmes
Member Username: Geoff
Post Number: 642 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 01:22 am: | |
Going through a Buffalo Springfield fix at the moment(the first 2) with a bit of early Pink Floyd thrown in for good measure since we have been bombarded with Pink Floyd docos of late...and Wings Wild Life! |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1752 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:03 am: | |
Randy, I can hold off of Henry's Dream. Maybe I'll start checking out The Birthday Party, The Bats and Clean. In the meantime I'm still in the middle of buying the Replacements and Echo and The Bunneymen reissues. |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1772 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 05:18 am: | |
Death Cab for Cutie - The Open Door (EP) and Narrow Stairs (LP) After many years this band of locals is beginning to grow on me, a little. Ben Gibbard's particular obsessive romantic dilemma can be both banal and maddening (basically it's the old "The love of my life walked out on me and so I'm stepping into each new relationship terrified it's going to happen again, to the point where they're doomed before they start, and I find myself heading for the door the minute it even remotely appears that she's heading for the door."). His singing wears on me over the long haul, too. But he does have some nice turns of phrase, an even an occasional insight here or there. And the tunes and musicianship, especially on the two above records, can get pretty darn seductive when I let myself surrender. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2265 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 06:38 am: | |
Oddly, I've never gotten the individual Birthday Party records. I have one now-very-old anthology on Missing Link. You have to be in the mood for their noisiness but they could be brilliant. I suppose I should think about picking up the albums. The Bats' single best album is the super-hard-to-get "Daddy's Highway" which also desperately needs remastering (if you DO find a copy that doesn't cost you an arm and a leg). "Fear of God" and "Silverbeet" are good too but "Daddy's Highway" is the essential one. You could level the criticism that the Bats' records all sound the same. That's not totally true but Robert Scott has maintained a pretty consistent approach to his music and the group--incredibly--has had no personnel changes over all these years. I probably listen to his solo collection of New Zealand folk songs--"Songs of Otago's Past"--as much as I do to any of the individual Bats albums. I still don't have very many Clean albums. The two-disc "Anthology" is quite excellent and probably all you really need. It spans from the crudest early garage punk to substantially later well crafted guitar pop. I have started picking up David Kilgour solo records. It's weird how much he comes off sounding like solo-era Grant McLennan. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2266 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 06:43 am: | |
Meanwhile, I'm listening to the first disc of "Tutto Vanoni" an anthology of Ornella Vanoni that very frustratingly uses re-recordings of the songs originally recorded in the '60s. On the package they have the nerve to call them "remastered versions." Yeah, songs from 1966 and 1967 have synthesizer. Right. Grrrr. I am reminded of the long process I went through locating some of the better 60s recordings by Mina. If you can't read the liner notes you're at the mercy of blind fortune. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 334 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:40 am: | |
Michael - and do get hold of Cohen's The Future, his last really great album. Some killer songs on that one. Randy - there are so many anthologies of these classic Italian singers that it's really difficult to find one that both includes all their best stuff and in the versions you want. I was just on the point of buying Tutto Vanoni as well, but I'll check around for something else now! There's certainly no web info I can find that indicates a rerecording, it's always simply referred to as a compilation or anthology. Some of the stuff on disc one is from the mid70s though - maybe synths were already around then?? |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3391 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:43 pm: | |
White Denim - Rough Trade Mix. It's a mix CD of tracks chosen by White Denim. Lots of great, obscure (ie many bands I'd never heard of, or heard of but never heard) garage rock and soul music. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2267 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 03:53 pm: | |
Stuart, synths were definitely around by the mid-70s. But I'm talking about Una Ragione Di Piu which was a 60s song. Was it you who linked us to the video of her doing it? This is a totally different version and is vastly inferior. When the disc arrived I rushed to play it because I wanted to hear and was SO bummed when it was this fakey version that I didn't even try to listen to anything on the disc again for a couple days. I read somewhere that she started up her own label at some point and I'll bet that she's trying to avoid paying royalties to her original record company. The stuff from the 70s sounds like it's from the 70s so I imagine it's all original but--for me--Italian pop of the 60s is generally much better than Italian pop of the 70s. (Yeah I know, big surprise given my tastes). |
cosmo vitelli
Member Username: Cosmo
Post Number: 238 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 04:48 pm: | |
The biggest problem with Henry's Dream is the production which simply doesnt do the songs justice. Cave had a nightmare working with David Briggs (Neil Young's producer) and the project failed as a result. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 335 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 05:10 pm: | |
Yeah, that was my link, and I suspect that's the only version like that that exists! Which is a shame, since it's the orchestral whammo that really makes it! And yes, there are a lot of riches in Italian 60s pop:here's another of my favourites, just in case you don't know it!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPKl-X5qX j0 |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1774 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 06:49 pm: | |
Kleenex/Liliput - 2-disc anthology |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1881 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 07:06 pm: | |
Randy, you should definitely think of getting the Birthday Party albums, particularly the CD that combines the Bad Seed and Mutiny EPs. Those two EPs are definitely peak Birthday Party. Prayers on Fire should be purchased second. I used to love Junkyard, but now I find that it gets a bit numbing after a full listen. It does contain some inarguable classics, though, like Big Jesus Trash Can and Hamlet. The debut is good, too, but not as essential. |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1882 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 07:15 pm: | |
As for Henry's Dream, I don't think it's a bad album, but Cave had definitely arrived at (and became stuck in) a certain shtick by that point that got old really fast. When Henry's Dream came out, I was obsessed with the Birthday Party but knew next to nothing of Cave's solo work. So, the first solo Cave song I really heard was Straight to You, via the video that MTV was playing upon Henry's Dream's release. That song sucks so hard, is so atrociously and heinously and revoltingly lame, that it immediately made me suspicious of all of Cave's solo work. But then when I started working my way up from Eternity and discovered how great much of his 80s output was, I just assumed that Henry's Dream/Straight to You was a disturbing and tragic fall from grace. Then when I finally got around to hearing Henry's Dream I realized that the album wasn't so bad and that that particular song was not really representative of it. I Had a Dream Joe is an undeniably great song, though. And I think Henry's Dream is miles better than all Nick Cave albums that came out after Let Love In. I still think the best thing Cave has EVER done is From Her To Eternity. I even like it more than the Birthday Party. |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1753 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 07:54 pm: | |
Just arrived and have been listening to between rounds of shoveling snow from my driveway: Echo and The Bunneymen - Crocodiles (2004 reissue with six bonus tracks and the Sines So Hard EP) Devo - Q: Are We Not Me? (2009 reissue with bonus tracks: complete Q; Are We Not Men? live from London May 6th, 2009) Both highly recommended!! |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2268 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 09:55 pm: | |
And, oddly enough, I've never had or even heard "From Her to Eternity." My induction into the world of Nick Cave was his covers album "Kicking Against the Pricks." Then I started buying forward and also got "Firstborn is Dead." "Eternity" just got lost in the shuffle for no conscious reason. I'll follow your advice re the Birthday Party records Jeff. Oh yeah, Stuart! You live in Italia, don't you? Keep sending those links! That's just sent me off to Amazon to order the 3-CD "Flashback Collection" of theirs. Hopefully it's not re-recorded crap. Cross your fingers. Re the Ornella Vanoni song I realize that the youtube performance was a live-on-TV thing and therefore unique but the studio version should certainly have proper orchestration and I'll bet it does. The version on "Tutti Vanoni" tries to get away with the synth in place of the orchestra. The back-up vocals are really wrong-sounding too as I recall. All male, I think. I'll give it a re-listen at some point. I suppose you're well familiar with this, but just in case . . . . It's a huge favorite of mine. She's just lip-synching to the studio production except for the odd cut-off at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKSuG1LOa YI Wonderfully Charles Blackwell/Ivor Raymonde-esque! |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1884 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:18 pm: | |
Randy, "Eternity" is a masterpiece. You really need to own it. I think it's one of the most inspired things he's ever done. It's bleak, dark, difficult, scabrous, and rather unpop, and it was my entry into the world of the Bad Seeds. After "Eternity," the Bad Seeds' sound became increasingly more conventional with every record. For me, "Eternity" is one of the few Bad Seeds albums that still sounds exciting and crucial all these years later. I don't know how much you'd like it, but if you want to hear something that's truly edgy and unconventional, you should put this on your list. |
skulldisco
Member Username: Skulldisco
Post Number: 574 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 12:11 am: | |
st huck rocks big time with a menacing bass line from barry a, and the album (eternity) is great, but your funeral... has grown to be my favourite early bad seeds album. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3393 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 02:35 am: | |
I haven't played Henry's Dream in years, but I used to love it when I did. I think Straight To You is a fantastic pop song. I love it. Though I don't play the album anymore, I certainly play that one song. |
Andrew Kerr
Member Username: Andrew_k
Post Number: 535 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 09:36 am: | |
With you on that song Pádraig. It has a great power and a wonderful sound (shades of Dylan's "wild mercury"?) I saw the Bad Seeds on the tour for that record and the songs were hell of a lot better live. I'm sure that I have read that things were not that good between the Seeds and David Brigg (producer) for "Henry's Dream". |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 337 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 10:15 am: | |
Oh dear god, Randy, a 3 CD collection of Dik Dik might be pushing it...I already feel a bit guilty about the Vanoni compilation! Thanks for the Mina, one of the great voices. |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 999 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 03:46 pm: | |
Saint Huck does indeed rock. As does Train Long Suffering, Tupelo & more from the early Bad Seeds years. If you like Your Funeral... get hold of the Sonic book of Cave's I think it's an Italian release. There are 4 tracks of readings from 'And The Ass Saw The Angel' backed by the Bad Seeds. It's like The Carny, nasty imagery with left of centre Blues. Tom Waits - Swordfish... Bunnymen - The Fountain Farse - Means To An End Inspiral Carpets - The Beast Inside The Chameleons - What Does Anything Mean Basically? |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 1001 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 03:50 pm: | |
I forgot: Canned Heat - Boogie With Canned Heat ... not that it was completely forgettable! |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2269 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 04:25 pm: | |
No worries Stuart. I usually go overkill on the non-English artists, knowing that I'll have to cull out the dull stuff. That's how I find things like "Se Telefonando" (which I got on a Mina 3-CD set a bunch of years back before anybody started re-releasing her early albums and maybe about 1/3 of the music on that set is skipped for being too soggy). In fact, I've also just pulled the trigger on another 3 CD set for Mina that starts up where my Mina shelf stops. I expect it'll have lots and lots of things I don't want but her records from the early 70s are quite good. I got a 2 CD set of French singer Alice Dona's entire output from 1963 to 1966 and deleted about 40% of it when loading it onto iTunes. (Dona wrote or co-wrote nearly everything she recorded during that time). Re Vanoni, after doing some research it looks like she has not been nearly as well served in the CD age as Mina. It doesn't look like I can get any of her pre-1970 recordings, period. I still remember shooting in the dark to try to get a handle on Alain Bashung. I first bought a rather dreary anthology of his early work and his ok-but-too-gimmicky hit album "Pizza." Trou set me on the right path there and Bashung's later records rank very highly in my personal music collection. The Americans are so insular they don't care about other people's music and that makes it difficult to discover the good non-anglophone artists. So I jump on any opportunities presented. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 338 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 05:11 pm: | |
If you know Mina, Randy, you might also know Lucio Battisti, and one Italian compilation I can heartily recommend, and with absolutely nothing that needs to be deleted either, is his anthology "le origini volume 2" - pure musical genius from end to end. The first time my wife played me some of his stuff I couldn't believe how crazy Italy was to keep to him to themselves, he should have been acclaimed worldwide. But the language thing is always a big hurdle. One of his most beautiful songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z-i0HwgO ZA&feature=related |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1886 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 08:02 pm: | |
Kevin, Your Funeral... is quite good, although I haven't listened to it in a million years. I should give it a spin. My personal favorite Eternity moments might be Cabin Fever, the title track, and Saint Huck. But the whole album is amazing, with maybe only Wings Off Flies being the sole weak link. But his cover of Avalanche is harrowing! |
Peter_d
Member Username: Peter_d
Post Number: 49 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 09:23 pm: | |
That Petrol Emotion -Chemicrazy.. ah, the memories! Really strong, cohesive album, not a bad track on it imho.. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 340 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 03:54 pm: | |
Thanks for dropping Bashung's name again, Randy - some great stuff on YouTube, especially Sur la trapeze and La nuit je mens - Amazon.fr is going to be hearing from me! |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2270 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 04:20 pm: | |
Stuart, the albums those songs come from, "Bleu Petrole" for "Sur la Trapeze," and "Fantaisie Militaire" for "Le Nuit je Mens," are both great. In fact, I listened to "Bleu Petrole" last night. Bashung can do a nine minute song with relatively few chords (but, no, it's not as extreme as "Heroin") in a language I do not understand and yet it is desolate and moving all the way through ("Comme Un Lego"). I was NOT familiar with Lucia Battisti. Amazon doesn't have your anthology but it looks like this will serve well: http://www.amazon.com/Avventure-Di-Lucio -Battisti-Mogol/dp/B0006UDPVU/ref=sr_1_5 ?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1267027656&sr=8-5 I'm holding off on ordering for the moment because I've got an awful lot of music coming my way and I don't want things to fall between the mental cracks. Alarmingly, there's even a second volume to this set! |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2271 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 04:23 pm: | |
I should have said "Bashung COULD do a nine minute song . . ." since he's no longer with us. "Bleu Petrole" is an extraordinary swan song. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 341 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 07:52 pm: | |
That's a pretty good collection, too, although it does have a couple of his later things when he started recording abroad and lost the wild creative edge of his early & middle years...and the lyrics are worth doing a few Italian classes for! |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3397 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 11:40 pm: | |
Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain 2CD remaster. In preparation for seeing them live next week. |
David Gagen
Member Username: David_g
Post Number: 294 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 01:18 am: | |
Teenage Cancer Trust - Noel Gallagher acoustic with Paul Weller. Great album. Noel is actually really good on this. This guy should have left Oasis years ago. He's brilliant! |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2272 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 02:31 am: | |
Stuart, what should I regard as the cut-off for Battisti? It looks like he worked with Mogol until '81 or so. Should I stop at an earlier point than that? Another option on Amazon is to simply buy his first half-dozen albums. Should I be looking at pre-Mogol work as well? |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 342 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 08:07 am: | |
Well, that’s a tricky one, also because I see there are some rarities and things he wrote for other people on the Adventure… boxed sets. But where possible I like to have the more organic feel of the originals rather than a collection, and there are some delicious instrumental parts on some of his discs which tend to get lost when the compilations are, um, compiled. For me, the core of his work is the first seven albums, that’s: Lucio Battisti, Emozioni, Amore e non amore, Umanamente uomo: il sogno, Il mio canto libero, Il nostro caro angelo and Anima latina. There are great songs after that, too, but the production goes all “international” with drippy electric pianos and foreign musicians and some of the rawness vanishes. But that’s just personal taste. The two boxed sets certainly give you everything, plus a bit more! It’s great in a way you don’t know Battisti…when I first sat down to listen to him, it was like someone who’s never heard Dylan or the Beatles before having both of them thrown at him in one evening! Well, an overstatement…but not by much! |
Jerry Clark
Member Username: Jerry
Post Number: 1002 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 08:04 pm: | |
Nick Lowe - Jesus Of Cool The Pretty Things - Very Best Of... Stone Roses - Demo's Odetta - Ballads & Blues Grace Jones - Warm Leatherette |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1887 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 09:04 pm: | |
Tactics - Blue and White Future Whale Talking Heads - Fear of Music Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn Cathal Coughlan - Grand Necropolitan |
skulldisco
Member Username: Skulldisco
Post Number: 575 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 10:54 pm: | |
actually jeff, after listening to "from her to eternity" for the 3rd time this week i reckon youre right. it is caves pinnacle, his masterpiece. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2273 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 03:17 am: | |
I still can't believe you found that Tactics album, Jeff! Two Antony & the Johnsons albums dropped through the door today. I'm listening to the first album. As this plays I keep thinking he should do a duet album with Nick Cave. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3398 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 10:41 am: | |
12 Rods - Gay? Haven't played it in years and couldn't even remember what it sounded like. I just remembered I really liked it when it came out 12 years ago and I got a promo copy of it. Right now track 1 sound a lot like Gene Loves Jezebel! |
Andreas Severins
Member Username: Andreas_severins
Post Number: 138 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 02:35 pm: | |
Jeff, Randy, what kind of music is the Tatics stuff. Haven't heard of them at all... We Are Only Riders - The JLP Sessions Project Debbie Harry's Luck Jim is just gorgeous - hearing this tears are not far away! ...Nick Cave at his best and Lydia Lunch (long not heared) with very strong versions of songs Lucky Jim has written on his own!!! |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2274 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 04:05 pm: | |
Andreas, the Tactics were an Australian band (well, series of bands really) from the early and mid-80s. They barely moved the needle commercially and definitely not outside of their home country. I'd describe their music as artistically ambitious post-punk. The main force was the singer/writer/guitarist Dave Studdert who had a rather--ahem!--challenging singing voice reminiscent of Roky Erikson. They did four albums with Studdert as the only real constant. Amanda Brown played on some of the songs on the final album. The first three albums plus a lot of extras and outtakes or alternative takes from the final album are collected together on two 2-CD anthologies on Memorandum. Jeff stumbled onto the original Aussie vinyl release of their third album in a second-hand store in Berkeley, California. |
skulldisco
Member Username: Skulldisco
Post Number: 576 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 09:50 pm: | |
The Big To Do - Drive By Truckers. Rocks like F8ck, and live this will make Neil Young and Crazy Horse sound like Coldplay!! 5 star album of the month in the new edition of Uncut. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2275 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 06:51 am: | |
Stuart, the Mina "Love Box" and the 3 CD Dik Dik came in the mail today. Prior to the "Love Box" the newest thing I had by Mina was her 1969 album "Bugiardo Piu Che Mai . . . Piu Incosciente che Moi . . ." which I think is a good album. I heard her version of "Insieme" on youtube and decided that perhaps I should pick up some things of hers that date into the 70s. Well, most of the "Love Box" is pretty dreadful on first listen but "Insieme" is great. Now, Dik Dik . . . a relative handful of the songs are covers such as the two John Phillips covers ("California Dreamin'" and "I Saw Her Again Last Night") and some more suitable things that perhaps should have been Italian pop in first place such as Procul Harum's "Lighter Shade of Pale." But the overwhelming majority of the tracks are Italian songs and a decent number of them Mogol/Battisti songs and I can say that after listening to the first 2 CDs of this 3CD set that the firm majority of the tracks are great examples of late 60s Brit pop with an Italian dramatic flair. You have lots of harpsichord and a little bit of that Wigan stomp. Seriously, the 3CD set is NOT overkill. It's a lot of fun. This is the "Flashback Collection" of Dik Dik. If you're gathering together 60s Italian pop/rock, get this. I can send you examples if you have a mailbox that can take biggish music files. And Andreas, I can send you examples of the Tactics if you have a mailbox that will accommodate music files. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 343 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 01:23 pm: | |
Whew, I'm glad the Dik Dik was worth it! At some point I'll have to bring up the subject of Fabrizio de Andre, too, but you've probably got enough Italian stuff to be going on with at the moment! |
skulldisco
Member Username: Skulldisco
Post Number: 577 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 06:55 pm: | |
sly - theres a riot.. muddy waters - the essential.. outkast - stankonia various - the best of studio one sometimes pale skinny white boys just wont do :-) but then, bob dylan - highway 61 |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2276 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 02:38 am: | |
Compiletely Bats. |
Michael Bachman
Member Username: Michael_bachman
Post Number: 1756 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 11:25 pm: | |
Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombones Finer then froghairs and is in contention for my favorite TW album. I don't know why I took so long to get it. |
Andreas Severins
Member Username: Andreas_severins
Post Number: 139 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 04:54 am: | |
@Randy: Thx for your explanations on the Tactics. ...and I would be happy to hear 2 songs from them if you could send them Massive Attack - Helgioland Echo & the Bunnymen - Crocodiles |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3401 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 06:30 am: | |
She Keeps Bees - Minisink Hotel. Some nice PJ Harvey-like touches (without being a rip-off) on this album. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 344 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 05:06 pm: | |
Listening to Bleu Petrole right now, and what a huge dark booming lovely thing it is! Can't thank you enough for pointing me in this guy's direction, Randy. Damn shame it was his last. Gauloise have a lot to answer for. |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2278 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 09:24 pm: | |
But, would he be Bashung without them? Thank Trou; he's the one who got me on the right Bashung track. |
Stuart Wilson
Member Username: Stuart
Post Number: 345 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 09:17 am: | |
Thank you, Trou. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3402 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 10:44 pm: | |
Power Of Dreams - Immigrants, Emigrants And Me. An amazing Irish album from 1989 that has just been re-released in a two CD version with b-sides and EP tracks on the second disc. |
Rohan Howitt
Member Username: Rohan
Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2010
| Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 07:53 am: | |
Whilst I've been working the last few hours, I've cycled through: - The Jezabels - She's So Hard EP - Big Star - Keep An Eye On The Sky Live Disc - The National - Alligator |
Allen Belz
Member Username: Abpositive
Post Number: 1775 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 06:21 am: | |
Cornershop - Handcream for a Generation Liliput - Some Songs Firesign Theatre - Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers |
cosmo vitelli
Member Username: Cosmo
Post Number: 241 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 09:20 am: | |
Television - Television - good album but unexpectedly sounding like Lloyd Cole rather than Luna |
Jeff Whiteaker
Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker
Post Number: 1894 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 05:32 pm: | |
Stockholm Monsters - Alma Mater |
TROU
Member Username: Trou
Post Number: 244 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 06:46 pm: | |
Get Well Soon - Vexations. It's even better than the first one! |
fsh
Member Username: Fsh
Post Number: 200 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 02:14 pm: | |
The Riptides - 77 Sunset Strip (1979) A copy just sold on ebay for $180 Aus. But you can catch the video (!?) here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkYyG1GOE Tc&feature=related Captures the moment, me thinks, complete with tasteless matching shirt and bass drum. Wow! |
Randy Adams
Member Username: Randy_adams
Post Number: 2281 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 03:59 pm: | |
Thanks fsh! I'd seen the vid for "Only You" but never this one. Musically, vastly too far up Ramones Avenue for my taste but the visuals! Love the shirt/bass drum thing. |
TROU
Member Username: Trou
Post Number: 245 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 06:08 pm: | |
Massive Attack - Heligoland. Something to add to a bunch of kind releases in 2010. |
Charles Coy
Member Username: Coy
Post Number: 182 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 03:37 am: | |
..Padraig, just picked up on a band 'The Walls'..from Ireland..?...think I like the 'Setting sun' CD..do you know much history on them..though I guess the website will tell plenty, love the control knobs on the site. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3408 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 04:45 am: | |
Charles, the Wall brothers used to be in a band called The Stunning, who were great live. The Walls' New Dawn Breaking is a fantastic album, one of my favourites of the decade. They are very nice fellahs too; I spent a very pleasant evening going from bar to bar and seeing many bands with them in Austin, Texas during SXSW 2001. |
Pádraig Collins
Member Username: Pádraig_collins
Post Number: 3409 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 04:47 am: | |
Right now I'm listening to Pavement's Quarantine The Past compilation. |
Charles Coy
Member Username: Coy
Post Number: 183 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 04:55 am: | |
Thanks Padraig, New Dawn Breaking is on its way to me, Angus & Julia Stone 'A Book Like This'..remains a rainy day special, as is today... |
frank bascombe
Member Username: Frankb
Post Number: 465 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 09:49 pm: | |
I'm waiting for the new one by the Drive by Truckers |
Hugh Nimmo
Member Username: Hugh_nimmo
Post Number: 216 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 01:17 pm: | |
Seabear - We Built A Fire ( Limited Edition which includes the While The Fire Dies EP.) The Ruby Suns - Fight Softly The Brunettes - Paper Dolls |
skulldisco
Member Username: Skulldisco
Post Number: 593 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 05:47 pm: | |
Frank, you can listen to the Truckers album in full at their website. The stream is excellent quality. http://www.drivebytruckers.com/ |