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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1888
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 05:42 pm:   

Geez, they're dropping like flies. I've been a fan of Section 25 for eons, particularly their brilliant 1984 album "From the Hip." Definitely one of Factory's brighter non-JD/NO stars. Cassidy was the bassist/singer/general leader, and he was only 56. Cassidy's wife Jenny passed away from cancer several years ago.

http://www.section25.com/
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 578
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 06:05 pm:   

he was interviewed on the factory documentary that was on bbc4 last year. never a great fan of the band, although i did have one album whose name escapes me which had a fantastically lush saville designed sleeve. it was yellow, and had a sort of flap which opened up to reveal a multi coloured marble effect background.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1889
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 08:24 pm:   

Kevin, yeah the album you have is Always Now, their debut. That lavish Saville sleeve really is great. It's one of Factories infamous sleeves that cost so much to produce that they lost money every time they sold a copy. Martin Hannett's production of that album has got to be one the most extreme "Martin Hannett" sounding productions he'd ever done. It's not their best album, but I like it well enough.
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spence
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Post Number: 3464
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 09:38 am:   

I thought Jeff would beat me to this. I saw the news by accident yesterday. A shock, but then by the amount of ciggies the guy smoked in the James Nice/LTM produced Factory doc entitled Shadowplayers, alone, not so much of a shock, maybe it wasn't related, who knows? Larry and Vinny's appearance on Shadowplayers, was brilliant, they were like a double act, like classic old cheesy UK comic duo's like Cannon and Ball, they fed off one another and appeared to have a great sense of humour and didn't seem as serious as their image or relation to Factory would promote.
I could take or leave them to be honest, they had their moments, I remember seeing the Always Now cover as a young kid, always at the front of a pile of albums, that were nestled together in uniform with a shitload of other superb new wave/reggae/experimental albums on the bedroom floor of my best mate's bedroom that he shared with his older bro. Intrigued by the wonderful bold design, it was a few years later that I heard a song Crazy Wisdom? on a Crepuscule comp, and loved it, more like mid 80's New Order by then, the sound was nothing like their earlier grey bass driven landscapes, though I have come to love their early material, what I have heard of it.
For me, the shock factor his passing makes, marks another etch in the headstone of what was the innovative factory Records. All these innovators, dying Its like, the passing of great artists, one by one, say from the De Stijl movement, or something it just seems to me that Factory created and left something behind that is simply indelible, I don;t know what it is/was, but Factory was/is a big part of my life - Still.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 579
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Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 12:15 pm:   

yeah spence, in the factory doc from last year he had the look(and voice)of a man who lived the life of the happy mondays debut album title. i think he was no stranger to the madchester party lifestyle.

http://thequietus.com/articles/03813-lar ry-cassidy-section-25-john-robb
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1890
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 05:24 pm:   

Spence, yeah, Crazy Wisdom was a single-only release that also turned up on a Crepuscule Rough with the Smooth comp. That was definitely their synth-heavy phase, around the time of their classic "From the Hip," the album that Barney Sumner produced.

It's sad and true, the Factory legends are dying off, one by one. It's amazing how of all those who've died, none of them were really all that old.

I'm going to have find that documentary that you two are talking about. Sounds like something I need to see.
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spence
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Post Number: 3465
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:23 am:   

Jeff, its on James Nice's LTM. Its interview based rather than music. Its brilliant.
http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/shadow playersfilm.html
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 537
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 12:12 pm:   

And someone of the Factory legends are still alive and wearing dreadful suits

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblo g/2010/mar/10/shaun-ryder.

I've been wallowing in some Factory nostalgia recently (mainly as a result of getting my cassette deck fixed); it got me thinking of the early days of New Order and how they were able to pick up the pieces after Ian Curtis' suicide and eventually find their own direction.

Yet it would be impossible for a band like them to do that today, out of the glare of the media; the moment they played a small non publicised gig it would be uploaded on YouTube and every movement would be reported on the net.

There is a great site where some audio fanatics are posting every New Order/Joy Division single.

http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/

'Temptation' rests the supreme moment for me.

And apparently the best ever version of Joy Division's Paradiso gig is here

http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blo gspot.com/search/label/Joy%20Division

I don't think that 'Interzone' was even on my cassette copy, and it is incredibly aggressive.
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 540
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 07:44 am:   

Jon Savage on 'Looking from a Hilltop'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/mar /23/jon-savage-song-section-25

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