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     kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 97 Registered: 05-2005 |
On a recent thread I was surprised that a few people had not heard, or didnt like The Soft Bulletin by Flaming Lips - a masterpiece in my opinion. So, with that in mind, which album havent you heard(or if you prefer, can't stand) that everybody else raves about. For me , I just cannot understand the fuss over Sigur Ros and their dreary albums | ||
| gareth w Member Username: Gareth Post Number: 34 Registered: 05-2005 |
As much as i love Bob Dylan i've never understood the praise lavished upon 'Highway 61 Revisited'. '...Rolling Stone' is a classic but the rest sounds like dready 12 bar blues to me. 'Pet Sounds' also leaves me cold, just never got into it. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 98 Registered: 05-2005 |
gareth, i used to be the same regarding Dylan and Pet Sounds. Then something just clicked and I "got" them - it may have been turning 30 that did it  | ||
| jerry hann Member Username: Jerry_h Post Number: 54 Registered: 07-2005 |
Still feel the same about Pet Sounds. I've been thinking about all the CDs that I no longer listen to. I tend to keep them all-what do others do? I'm thinking Its time for a clear out. But you could always exchange a lurking gem that one day you wish you'd kept.Thats the dilemma. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 94 Registered: 05-2005 |
I agree on Pet Sounds, collectively it doesn't do it for me, but there are some great stand out songs, whereas Sunflower or Surfs Up does. I may upset some, but Nirvana - Nevermind, didn't interest me then and still doesn't to this day. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 165 Registered: 10-2004 |
wow, pet sounds still stands as one of my very favorite albums. smile too. brian wilson's chord progressions and melodies are pure beauty to my ears. but, as for stuff that everyone goes ga ga over but which i could never get into: radiohead iron and wine bonnie prince billy wilco happy mondays beck flaming lips white stripes anything nick cave has done post-do you love me new pornographers the band (but only when they're not behind dylan -i know, such heresy!) and finally, the stones (i can appreciate them, and i do like some of their songs, but overall, they never seem to do much for me) you know, i could keep adding to this list all day. all of this stuff just leaves me cold. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 151 Registered: 08-2004 |
Gareth W, I love Highway 61. The only song I've grown tired of is Like A Rolling Stone. Here's my shortlist The Beatles The Byrds (the songs that sound too much like The Beatles) The Band Bruce Springsteen Ryan Adams etc etc | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 166 Registered: 10-2004 |
whoops! forgot to include ryan adams and elliot smith in my shortlist. i think springsteen is a bit overrated as well, though for me he does have his moments. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 95 Registered: 05-2005 |
I could asily fall out with everyone over this thread! | ||
| Stephen Harris Member Username: Smh Post Number: 19 Registered: 05-2005 |
I'm with Jeff on almost everything! Mondays, Beck and White Stripes at their best wouldn't be on my list though, and I'd say most Nick Cave pre-Do You Love Me, a recent convert to Nicks ballads. Nirvana always left me cold after Teen Spirit - Thought Come As You Are sounded like The Police | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 99 Registered: 05-2005 |
OK Pretty much everything by: Tom Petty Most new R'nB (trying to get away from the class list!) Everything No Doubt and the irritating female front person and her solo stuff and The White Stripes, couldn't agree more.... | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 165 Registered: 03-2005 |
Oh, this is a wicked pleasure isn't it? Rickie Lee Jones. I hate that bogus "cool" act and her recent political recordings--even though I probably share all her opinions--just sound embarrassingly childish. Springsteen. Overblown. Rufus Wainwright. Talented no doubt, but not as talented as he thinks he is. I concur with everyone who named The White Stripes. A friend of mine proudly played their bombastic hyperventilated version of "I Don't Know What to Do with Myself" assuming I'd love it and I gasped to find some diplomatic way to let him know that it did not have the same effect on me. The Beatles' "Abbey Road." To my mind, this is the absolute fountainhead of corporate rock albums. I hated it when it was new and it's never improved for me. Van Morrison after he left Them. A well-timed plane crash would have been just the thing. The Rolling Stones without Andrew Oldham. Sheer inertia pulled them successfully through "Beggars Banquet" and about half of "Let It Bleed" but by the critic-adored "Exile on Main Street" they were undisciplined and monotonous. Arcade Fire. A truly fabulous spectacle on stage, their album proves to be nothing but froth without the visuals. People will NOT be listening to "Funeral" in 20 years. Ok, that's enough. | ||
| gareth w Member Username: Gareth Post Number: 36 Registered: 05-2005 |
I concur 100% with Rufus Wainwright. His singing sounds like a badly warped record being played on a very fluffy needle. Too many ups and downs for my palette. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 135 Registered: 04-2005 |
Sufjan Stevens. I appreciate the craft and the work he puts into his songs and arrangements, but I can't imagine ever listening to his music for pleasure. Brian Wilson/"Smile". See "Sufjan Stevens." Interpol. Many non-NYC bands of the same type are way better. The Strokes. See "Interpol." Flaming Lips. I don't hate 'em, but can 't stand that voice for an entire album. Same with Grandaddy. Kanye West. I can't hear the supposedly brilliant arrangements past the usual self-aggrandizing rapping. Billy Bragg. I respect his earnestness, politics, etc., but one or two songs from him go a long, long way. Bjork/"Medulla". Points for bravery. Please go back to making music with real instruments. | ||
| Graham Twyford Member Username: Graham_twyford Post Number: 32 Registered: 05-2005 |
Led Zeppelin (by some distance) The Decemberists White Stripes The Flaming Lips Red Hot Chilli Peppers The Libertines The Beach Boys (good but not THAT good) As for artists you are / were vastly underrated: Matthew Sweet Marion Supergrass | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 103 Registered: 05-2005 |
Matthew Sweet I'd agree with, but I think his Girlfriend whilst excellent, is really the only thing in his back catalogue, nothing else can match it, mostly due to Quine and Lloyd's involvement, for me anyway. The Darkness (difficult second album, they're dead) | ||
| Graham Twyford Member Username: Graham_twyford Post Number: 33 Registered: 05-2005 |
Spence - have you never heard 'Altered Beast'? Far superior to 'Girlfriend' in my humble opinion. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 104 Registered: 05-2005 |
Hi Graham, yeah I like it, but only like I like Adventure to Marquee Moon if you get my drift. | ||
| abigail law Member Username: Abigail Post Number: 37 Registered: 06-2005 |
i never really got the beach boys either, though 'caroline, no' is beautiful. smile, in my opinion, is one of the most overrated albums ever made. underrated i'd have to go for nico, her first three solo albums are by far the best thing any ex-velvet underground member has done | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 64 Registered: 05-2005 |
I would agree on Pet Sounds (always preferred Surf's Up) and Van Morrison (horrible stuff). A lot of people I know love Lambchop, but I don't understand it. | ||
| Hugo Member Username: Hugo Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2005 |
Another vote for Pet Sounds. It's good, it's nice, but I really don't understand why it's supposed to be a masterpiece. | ||
| XY765 Member Username: Judge Post Number: 10 Registered: 01-2006 |
I know it's been covered on other threads but absolutely everything by U2, except (and this hurts) "She's a Mystery" written for Roy Orbison....i am really surprised at how many musicians i really like and respect crediting U2, i really really don't get it... | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 93 Registered: 02-2005 |
Randy wrote: "The Beatles' "Abbey Road." To my mind, this is the absolute fountainhead of corporate rock albums. I hated it when it was new and it's never improved for me." I completely agree. It is the nadir of their career and I'm always shocked when Beatles fans tip it as their favorite (and a lot do). Randy wrote: "The Rolling Stones without Andrew Oldham. Sheer inertia pulled them successfully through "Beggars Banquet" and about half of "Let It Bleed" but by the critic-adored "Exile on Main Street" they were undisciplined and monotonous." Totally disagree here. Exile on Main Street was universally panned when it came out and I fell into critical line... where's the chrome-plated rocker like Jumpin' Jack Flash? I spent a lot of time in the summer of '72 hanging out with a friend just back from Viet Nam and we listened to the album a lot. It really started to click for me and it's been a favorite ever since. I don't think it was a "crtical favorite" until the late-70's or early-80's though. I've read many wonderful musings on and appreciations of Exile - better than I can muster here - but that album contains their most soulful work IMHO. I think the bigger question here is the obligation of younger listeners to digest and embrace Rock Classics. A group like The Band... I like them, but I would never force them down anybody's throat. They were an Americana hybrid in 1968 and today's neophyte listener would be much better off investigating the music that inspired The Band rather than their own albums. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 107 Registered: 05-2005 |
I think a talking head interview style programme for GoBetweens Msg Board personnel is in order don't you!? Make great television! Ref the Pet sounds thing, is it I wonder, due to the fact that for The Beach Boys it was a turning point, y'know, something that is the opposite to the surf stuff that surfed vefore it? Is it that there was nothing in the mainstream like it?, though Pebbles fans would argue? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 158 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Doors. Most. Overrated. Band. Ever. And when girls had 'that' picture of Morrison without his shirt on on their bedroom walls... They might as well have had a picture of Boyzone or New Kids On The Block. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 159 Registered: 05-2005 |
Not that I ever complained to the girls in question (well, it was one girl). I was too ecstatic to be in the bedroom to risk dissing her taste in music. I met that ex again recently for the first time in three years (with her husband) and she mentioned how I had thought she had a great taste in music. I did not disabuse her of that notion. It would have been uncharitable. | ||
| Wilson Davey Member Username: Wilson Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2005 |
Not wishing to get too personal but I hate the way Macca raises his eyebrows when singing as much as I love the way Robert does...I got hired....oh I got tired....after this, yeah...after this. So Macca is a miss for me and I cannot abide Stevie Wonder...a bit random but it is late. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 114 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jesus Christ that's the most ridiculous thing I have heard all day!!!! Next it'll be "I never liked the bump on Lennon's nose, especially when he had his yellow Mod glasses balancing on it!" | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 158 Registered: 08-2004 |
What ablout the Elton John eyebrow twitch, I hate that freak. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 170 Registered: 03-2005 |
Padraig, you always seem to be running into exes. I emphatically agree with you on the Doors. The old insult I used to hurl at the people who loved them is that they were Seeds copyists. Guy, maybe my memory is faulty. Somehow I'd stored away the memory of everybody falling all over themselves for "Exile" from the get-go. The last thing by the Rolling Stones that I wholeheartedly liked was the first two minutes of "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" and the entirety of "Sister Morphine." Yet in the 60s I'd been firmly on the Stones' side of the "Stones or Beatles" divide. Spence, your idea of a talking heads type show for us sounds just great to me. I can see it now: there I am on a panel bloviating about the importance of pop music on Sunday morning. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 162 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy, it was the same ex who I mentioned had recently told me she's been playing my old mix tapes in her car. Also, what is "bloviating" for goodness sake? Is it a real word? It sounds like a word a white-suited southern gentleman of a certain age might use while sitting on the porch of his large wooden house, looking out over his homestead, dabbing his brow with a handkerchief and sipping a mint julep. Not that I'm suggesting you are any of the above. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 172 Registered: 03-2005 |
Oops. Sorry. A favorite word from one of my local friends. I always took it to mean "pompously expounding at impossible length." Considering its source I should have known it would not exist. Oh well. It sounds good. Perhaps, similar to your vivid image, a word for Gore Vidal to use once past his fourth afternoon cocktail. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 163 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yes, I can see Gore bloviating alright. Especially not that he's left Italy and moved to California. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 173 Registered: 03-2005 |
Ah, my faith in my chum was too feeble! I have been directed to dictionary.com "Word of the Day" for June 22, 2001. "Bloviate" exists! And means what I thought it meant. | ||
| C Gull Member Username: C_gull Post Number: 21 Registered: 05-2005 |
Well talking about Flaming Lips what about the Yoshimi album - what a pile of crap! They were good live though - although their best song was Seven Nation Army!! | ||
| Paul Wright Member Username: Wallaby Post Number: 17 Registered: 05-2005 |
Led Zeppelin. All of it. Apart from the live version of Rock and Roll, which is just about the most thrilling 3 minutes in rock. And their only reason for ever existing as far as I am concerned. But I would gladly have missed out on it to be rid of all of those bands who wanted to be Led Zeppelin. | ||
| jerry hann Member Username: Jerry_h Post Number: 56 Registered: 07-2005 |
Scud mountain Boys The Earlies New Generation of Singer songwirtes promotes as being the next Dylan/Costello etc e.g. Tom Macrae, Harcourt ( can't think of his forst name) Also never really liked FLaming LIps and only some Mercury Rev ( 1st 3 track on Deserters Songs)I find the almost falsetto vocals gets the better of me. | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 95 Registered: 02-2005 |
Randy, at this point in time, Exile On Main Street is an overbearing Rock Classic that every music fan is obliged to "get" - which can be pretty irritating. If you haven't heard it in a long time it might surprise you, or it might not. If you're not a drinker I'm not sure you should bother... one of the things that's been said about the album is that it celebrates The Saloon as a way of life, a good descriptive snapshot. | ||
| M. Mark Burgess Member Username: Fortysomething Post Number: 68 Registered: 05-2005 |
Re:Highway 61--It's the lyrics, man. Music's not bad either. Passion always rules over commercial intentions for me. I guess it"s ironic that when it came out, alot of people accused him of selling out to commercialism. If this was true I can't believe that it was calculated. One of my favorite movie scenes is in Walk the Line,when J.C. is listening to it while putting up pictures of June. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 45 Registered: 05-2005 |
Wow. I really DID think you lot liked music but now I'm really wondering why I'm tapping these keys to make an entry!!!!! I'll take a deep breath, roll up my sleeves and begin..... Captain Beefheart, The Band,David Bowie (apart from the singles), Mavin Gaye,most of The Clash,Jimi Hendrix,Van Morrison,Nirvana,The Who,The Ramones,Patti Smith,Public Enemy,Miles Davis,Bruce Springsteen,Elvis Costello,Prince,The Stooges,The Pixies apart from some singles,Frank Zappa,Frank Sinatra,Sonic Youth,Bjork,Tom Waits,P.J Harvey,Smashing Pumpkins etc etc etc.... After rubbishing the Beatles, The Byrds, Pet Sounds and "Yoshimi", this is the least I could do. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 112 Registered: 05-2005 |
geoff, you did understand this thread didnt you? its music you cant stand that you are supposed to list, not stuff of genius.... oh, you really dont like this stuff? I hope then that the likes of U2,Coldplay, Oasis are among your etc,etc,etc | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 180 Registered: 03-2005 |
Ok, I'm locking away the guns . . . . |