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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 139
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   

Josef K - Chance Meeting (Postcard version)
Orange Juice - Blue Boy
Monochrome Set - Jet Set Junta
Basement 5 - Silicon Chip
Talking Heads - Once in a lifetime
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Kurt Stephan
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Username: Slothbert

Post Number: 146
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 08:54 pm:   

Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
New Order - Ceremony
Gang of Four - To Hell With Poverty
Public Image Ltd. - Public Image
Scritti Politti - Skank Bloc Bologna
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kevin
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Post Number: 121
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 09:37 pm:   

public image - death disco
joy division - atmosphere
scritti pollitti - sweetest girl
gang of four - at home he's a tourist
josef k - its kinda funny
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Eke
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 08:26 am:   

But think of the b-sides as well which were really a big part of the package then. Sorry to repeat the Death Disco nomination but it is, after all, the best single ever.

Death Disco/Megga Mix - PIL
Big Gold Dream/Sympathetic Anaesthetic - Fire Engines
Warm Leatherette/TVOD - The Normal
A Song From Under the Floorboards/Twenty Years Ago - Magazine
Party Fears Two/It's Better This Way - Associates
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spence
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:18 am:   

Yeah Eke what a b-side, one of the most original songs I'd ever heard that was Its better this way, started off like a Cadburys Milk Tray advert, (you could of imagined a man dressed in black with a balaclave skiing down a mountain!), then into this walking bass line that was pure heaven. Paul Haig and Billy Mackenzie used to do a great live version of that song...
These Days, b soide of LWTUA
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Eke
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 11:43 am:   

Yep, that b-side version of "It's Better This Way" is magical. "These Days" too - what a great song.
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jerry hann
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 05:04 pm:   

Don't forget The Specials-Ghost Town, TooMuch too Young.Great run of Singles
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jerry hann
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 05:06 pm:   

Spence-the Monochrome Set-what a great band, recently down loaded Jet Set Junta again, some how forgot about it over the intervening years
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 144
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 06:52 pm:   

Jerry, how could one not adore a band with anexcellent lead guitarist by the name of Lester Square!! Oh, remember the b side of Ghosttown, Why and Friday night Saturday morning, 2 lost b side classics.
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Stephen Harris
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Username: Smh

Post Number: 20
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 07:58 pm:   

one of the many reasons to love the monochrome set wes that everyone in the band got a song named after them - b.i.d. spells bid, lester leaps in,andiamo, j.d h.a.n.e.y, and of course the monochrome set. Not listened much to the reformed band but the early lps are all great.
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Wilson Davey
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Username: Wilson

Post Number: 20
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   

Hang on !

We need some boundaries here surely ? or just forget the pigeonholes altogther ?

I reckon party fears two (a great pop song) was from 1982, when did Post punk finish ? How do you define it anyway ?

Eddie & The Hot Rods - Do anything you wanna do
The Members - Sound of the Suburbs
Elvis Costello - Olivers Army
The Undertones - You've got my number
The Jam - Going Underground

Punk ? New wave ? Post-punk ? Just 5 great songs that still thrill ! Just try playing the opening 10 seconds of each of these without grinning.
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kevin
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   

wilson, if we're being picky I wouldnt say any of your choices were post punk. post punk bands tended to be more arty, for want of a better phrase. none of yours fit the bill, sorry :-)
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 146
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   

yeah well associates had fourt drawer down (very post punk) in '81 and arty fears etc were all recorded tail end of '81 although released in '82 so there!:-)
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spence
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:49 pm:   

I think eddie and the hot rods were fake punk!!
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spence
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 11:01 pm:   

Wire - Map ref
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jelena topcic
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Username: Jelena

Post Number: 18
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 08:42 pm:   

gang of four - damaged goods
wire - three girl rhumba/outdoor miner/i am the fly
magazine - cut-out shapes/back to nature
the stranglers - nice 'n' sleazy/london lady
public image ltd. - memories/the suit
... christ, so many more!
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Wilson Davey
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   

Kevin, In which case you are right, I didn't recognise the genre post-punk, I thought it was just a way of labelling stuff that punk spawned between say 79 - 81. Do the Cocteau Twins count ? Sugar hiccup, pearly dewdrops drops ? I used to make compilation tapes for the car comprising Bunnymen, Teardrops, Joy Div/New order, Cocteaus, Fire Engines. And for a curveball...my favourite ever STranglers song La Folie. Because it sounded like something from a seedy French film soundtrack circa 1970. All woozy hammond organ and tinny guitar, I played it death. I picked up a very early Francoise Hardy LP hoping it would be similar but more authentic. IT WAS ! I always felt that Robert and Grant would understand the appeal that it held for me, I could see them writing in that mould....
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kevin
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 01:39 pm:   

Its a tough call Wilson. I always think of post punk being a timeline of 79-81, however in musical terms the cocteaus probably qualify. Bunnymen and teardrops definately qualify, especially since they arguably made their best music during that time
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 185
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 10:08 pm:   

Let's not forget the Laughing Clowns, who along with PIL and Magazine are probably the most literally "post punk."
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 165
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 09:27 pm:   

Gabrielle - The Nips
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Geoff Holmes
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Username: Geoff

Post Number: 53
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:06 am:   

The Cocteau Twins, Echo and the Bunnymen and The Teardrops Explodes were surely all part of the new psychedelic movement in the early 80's. That's why I got into them. Although, what made that period so good was all of the cross fertilisation of the genres. A case could also be made that The Cocteaus and The Bunnymen were also some of the first gothic bands too, along with, obviously, the Cure. Didn't Robert Smith also really like the Bunnymen??? That's how it seemed out here in Oz at the time anyway.
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Wilson Davey
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Username: Wilson

Post Number: 30
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 01:55 pm:   

Geoff, That's the point I was trying to make regarding pigeon-holes and labels. The music press need to use them but we don't have to.

The Bunnymens debut single was in 1979. The Teardrops was in 1978 !! It's all Rock & Roll just with different clothes and hairstyles.No-one stops the wheel.

Hey, Have you seen that Gothic/Indy/Alternative/new pschedelic/retro/Punky/weirdo/miserablist guy at the other end of the office ? He'll be talking about this in 25 years time on a message board...

Yeah, I used to have a Mac hair style and overcoat, I was also Edwyn for a while and wore loud checked shirts, sandals, and then morphed into Roddy complete with buckskin fringed jacket and then Morrissey with the shirtlap out and bag-arse jeans and bit of camp a la Forster. "I'll keep you guessing"..I also lived in Sheffield at the time so we had that Industrial scene and Cabaret Voltaire thang going...I also had a Tom Waits hat. It was a great time and what being young is for...I still listen to all the music I loved then.

For further reference read Stuart Maconie's book "Cider with Roadies". You may find yourself in it...
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 174
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   

Well said all you guys!

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