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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 52
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 05:58 am:   

Kuba A had a great idea and reeled off a list of classic debuts, most of which I know, but some I don't...cause I only buy one album a year, listen to Colplay and don't rate Captain Beefheart!!!!
The list was pretty good but do you good people have any more?
I'm not a huge OZ-rock fan but I think the Hoodoo gurus "Stonage Romeos" is pretty close to perfect as is "Rattlesnakes".
What do you reckon??????
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Eke
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 08:57 am:   

This is almost too easy as most artists' first albums are their best but I think all of these are stone cold classics.

"Velvet Underground & Nico"
"Marquee Moon"
"Never Mind The Bollocks"
"Heart of the Congos"
"Yo! Bum Rush The Show"
"Scott"
"The Lexicon Of Love"
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kevin
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Post Number: 130
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 12:09 pm:   

VU and Nico
Unknown Pleasures
Entertainment
The Stooges
The Clash
Marquee Moon
2 7s Clash
Heart of The Congos
Burning Spear
Murmer
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spence
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Post Number: 173
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 02:03 pm:   

Kevin has 4 of mine:
Unknown Pleasures
The Clash
Marquee Moon
Murmer
remainder being:
The Smiths
The Fall - Live The Witch Trials
Oasis - Def Maybe
Aztec Camera - High land hard rain
Blue Nile - Walk across the rooftops
Magazine - Real Life (Scond Ahand is outstanding too)
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Mark Tuffield
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   

The Red Guitars - Slow to Fade
The Pale Fountains - Pacific Street
The Blue Aeroplanes - Bop Art (perhaps not Spence?)
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spence
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 03:52 pm:   

Add those 3 to my list Mark, nice one re Pale Fountains, recently been playing Shack HMS Fable too.
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Simon Withers
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 04:56 pm:   

VU and Nico (by common consent, it seems...)
Buffalo Springfield – Buffalo Springfield
REM - Murmur (though not as good as Reckoning...)
The Who – The Who Sings My Generation
The Cure – Three Imaginary Boys
The Teardrop Explodes – Kilimanjaro
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Mark Tuffield
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   

Yes HMS Fable is a corker, recall seeing them live at the Shepherds Bush Empire about the time of its release. Much talk of it being a “break-through” album – oh well !!

Warming to this theme, could I add:-

Fox Base Alpha – St Etienne
Throwing Muses – Throwing Muses
Falling and Laughing – Orange Juice (did they have one on Postcard before this ? or were Postcard just singles)

Talking of Orange Juice, one of my favourite albums of recent years is You can make it if you boogie by James Kirk on the wonderful Marina label.
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Wilson Davey
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 06:36 pm:   

I want to say The Smiths but it lacked something, "Hatful" is much representative of them at the time the debut came out...

Murmur - still finding things on there !
Crocodiles
Ron Sexsmith - self titled
Stone Roses
You can't hide your love forever -OJ
The Clash
Aztec Camera HLHR
Does Astra Weeks count ? - still yielding something I cannot explain.
Not very original I know
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Wilson Davey
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 06:43 pm:   

I saw the "Paleys" back in 1982. Got their early singles as well on 12".I love the cinemascope element of the songs. Thank You, Southbound Excursion, Jeans not happening (great guitar break and the video is good too). Is The Strands LP worth getting anyone ?

James Kirk; reminds me I bought the Memphis 12" single as well "You supply the roses". Not played it in years and it probably hasn't dated too well.
I loved the James Kirk track "Nilsson"on a Uncut CD a couple of years ago, was tempted for the LP, is it any cop ?
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 06:56 pm:   

The first Television, VU, and Clash albums are the three greatest debuts in my book. A few of my other favorite debuts that I don't think have been mentioned yet:

Ramones - self-titled
Auteurs - New Wave
M.I.A. - Arular (this has grown on me a lot the past few months)
Arcade Fire - Funeral
Patti Smith - Horses
XTC - White Music
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spence
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Post Number: 179
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 08:04 pm:   

Yeah forgot Yo Bum Rush the Show is an utter debut gem.
Mark, it was You can't hide your love forever the first Orange Juice LP. That shaped my youth that album. James Kirk album I still to get but like Wilson that Nilsson track is grrrreat. Must get it. I remember bumping into Justin from Del Amitri a few years ago, I used to know them pretty well and he said he'd always loved OJ and would love to wrok with them, and I think he did he's on that Kirk CD, and he had Edwyn produce some Dels stuff. XTC fro,m Kurt too, forgot about that. Thank you by the Paleys!! What a song, what an album, they looked extremely cool the Pale Fountains. The Strands sounds good have only heard a few songs. I'm doing a cover of Hey Mama soon from Waterpistol with my group The Winnebago Orchestra. We're slowing it down and doing it very differently.
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Stephen Harris
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:58 pm:   

most of the above and
The Specials
Woodentops - Giant
The Modern Lovers
Mogwai - Young Team
Tindersticks
June Brides
and I love Edwyn Collins solo debut
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Stephen Harris
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 12:00 am:   

and how have we all missed out Danger In The Past?
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 188
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 03:03 am:   

So many nominees . . . .

My additions to those above:

First, from the 60s: "The Pretty Things", "The Move", "Psychedelic Sounds"--13th Floor Elevators, "The Stooges", "The Gilded Palace of Sin"--Flying Burrito Bros. Also released in 1971 but really from the 60s: "Innovations"--Duffy Power.

Wilson, "Astral Weeks" was not Van Morrison's first album; "Blowin' Your Mind" came first and produced his first solo hit "Brown Eyed Girl."

From later times: "Here Come the Warm Jets"--Eno, "Crazy Rhythms"--Feelies, "A Century Ends"--David Gray, "Tigermilk"--you know who.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 03:18 am:   

Sorry, I meant to include The Dream Syndicate's "Days of Wine and Roses" on that list too.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 180
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 04:01 am:   

At the risk of getting you all hot and bothered and foaming at the mouth - U2's Boy was a great debut. Well, I haven't played it since 1988 when my first record player broke and it has not troubled either of my subsequent decks. One of these I will dig it out and see if I still love it though.

Please note I'm not saying Boy was the best debut ever. Just one that I loved for a long time.

Murmur is the greatest debut ever. Power Of Dreams' Immigrants, Mmigrants And Me is probably the best Irish debut. I only have it on cassette and it's long since deleted. Can anyone help me out with a burned copy?

By the way, HMS Fable was not Shack's debut. Waterpistol came before it. There was possibly another before that too.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 04:07 am:   

That should be Immigrants, Emigrants And Me, of course.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 04:10 am:   

microdisney - everybody's fantastic
REM - chronic town (well, it's an ep, but still...)
aztec camera - high land, hard rain
smiths - smiths
teardrop exlodes - kilimanjaro
nick drake - five leaves left
cure - three imaginary boys
left banke - pretty ballerina/walk away renee
cocteau twins - garlands
associates - affectionate punch
everything but the girl - eden
jorge ben - samba esquema novo
kevin ayers - joy of a toy
momus - circus maximus
prefab sprout - swoon
cowboys int'l - original sin

and to whomever asked if the strands record is good: yes! it's excellent! one of michael head's strongest records.
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Wilson Davey
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 07:00 am:   

Totally forgot about Martin Stephenson & the Daintees - Boat to Bolivia.

Some great songs on there like Crocodile Cryer..
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David Matheson
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 12:00 pm:   

Lloyd Cole & the Commotions - Rattlesnakes
Archie Roach - Charcoal Lane
Luka Bloom - Riverside
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Mark Tuffield
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 02:47 pm:   

Walked into my kitchen last night and had a Homer Simpson moment when I picked up my cassette of You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever…

Wilson, I find myself at odd moments humming (badly) songs from the James Kirk CD, there is a great deal of humour in them, not surprising perhaps from the man behind Wan Light and Three Cheers For Our Team. Overall there is a bit of a country feel to the record and James has a very warm singing voice.

As a ”Paleys”/Shack fan I was a bit disappointed by the Strands CD, can’t put a finger on why, must have another listen to it. I see Shack are touring soon, Concorde 2, Brighton on May 16 anyone ?

Love – Boat to Boliva – alas my cassette copy refuses to play these days…
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jerry hann
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 03:06 pm:   

Love the Daintees, but fialed to bem oved by there subsequent records, in fact the 2nd albim was the first cd I bough for my wife when it came out,and form that great record shop in Sheffied called "Record Collector".May be grat record shops around the world would be another good thread. Then if iI go to NY/Sydney/LA I'll now where to go
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M. Mark Burgess
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 04:04 am:   

Agree that Murmur is hard to beat but would add
Crocodiles
The Modern Dance
Monster Movie
Roxy Music
Los Angeles-X
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XY765
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:54 am:   

The Modern Lovers - Modern Lovers
The Stooges - The Stooges
The Smiths - The Smiths
VU & Nico - VU & Nico (bit of a pattern here)
Jeusu & Mary Chain - Psychocandy
The Wedding Present - George Best
Patti Smith - Horses

that'll do for the moment...
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spence
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:00 am:   

Jeff nice Momus spot, Circus Maximus is superb isn't it!? Around '86, I used to go down to London a lot had some friends who knew Nick Currie and as I used to write him a lot we arranged a meet and I used to always see him for a chat when I used to go down there, really nice guy. I remember being on a red London bus at 10 o'clock on a Sunday morning talking about how great the Fairlight computer / emulator sounded on Circus Maximus! What weird folk eh, or boring folk one of the two...
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Roger Griffin
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:43 am:   

The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:50 am:   

XY765, that's a good start, though I think Psychocandy sounds a bit dated now.
George best is brilliant, Arctic Monkeys would sound a lot different if it wasn't for David Gedge IMHO.

Trying to spot some that haven't been suggested so far.

My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
The Specials
Talking Heads:77
Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk
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Jerry Clark
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Post Number: 181
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:57 am:   

Leftfield - Leftism
Fluke - The Techno Rose Of Blighty
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Roger Griffin
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:59 am:   

The Durutti Column - The Return Of..
Scritti Politti - Songs To Remember
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XY765
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:19 am:   

Jerry, i agree about Psychocandy but a seminal album at the time all the same...wasn't sure whether Isn't Anything is a real first album, bit of a discussion on the Best 2nd album thread about that and tigermilk is a cracker too..
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Per Stam
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   

Some quick ones:
You Can't Hide Your Love Forever - Orange Juice
Old No 1 - Guy Clark
Alchemy - Richard Lloyd (although he made 2 w tv of course)
HLHR - Aztec Camera
You Can Make It If You Boogie - James Kirk (and 1 w OJ)
Boat To Bolivia - Martin Stephenson & The Daintees
The Phantoms & The Archetypes - Paul Quinn & The Independent Group
Blank Generation - Richard Hell & The Voidoids
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Peter Collins
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:23 pm:   

how about Real Life by Magazine
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M. Mark Burgess
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:43 pm:   

Also Lone Justice
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spence
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   

yeah think i got real life too. it realy sounds '78 that album, I love it. Devoto was great.

Paul Quinn's an interesting one, superb voice, almost on a par with Billy Mackenzie I think, I know that's hard to believe but I really think Quinn is one of Scotland's great lost singers. I was always awaiting the Boutgie Bourgie album, but it wasn't to be. Anbody heard The Leopards, Mick Slaven's group ex Bourhie? They're cool, ain't got anythiong by em tho.
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Wilson Davey
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:32 pm:   

What was Mitch Easters band called around the same time as Lone Justice, Green on red etc ?

I recall some good stuff, they also supported the bunnymen in 84'. It's come to me now "Lets Active"
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Roger Griffin
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:04 pm:   

If you don't count Down Below as it's a mini-album, I'd nominate
The Cruel Sea - This Is Not The Way Home
Also -
Laurie Anderson - Big Science
JJ Cale - Naturally
Robert Forster - Danger In The Past
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:04 pm:   

Yeah, Let's Active--they made some records that sounded pretty good to me at the time, not so good now. Their first full-length record--"Cypress"--was probably their best.
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pd
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 09:17 am:   

How about the Icicle Works debut ?
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Eke
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 11:02 am:   

Leftfield and Fluke - good ones Jerry.

That reminds me that I shamefully forgot Massive Attack's Blue Lines and Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman.
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spence
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 01:54 pm:   

Masive! Of course!!!!!!!! Icicle Works, hasn't aged well for me, although great songwriting...
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   

I understand Eke, it's easy to get wrapped up in guitar pop, house & techno albums are often overlooked/looked down upon.

Sabres Of Paradise - Smokebelch
Electribe 101 - Electribal Memories
Soundclash Republic - The Sound Of Shiva Shanti
Hypnotone - Hypnotone
Love Corporation - Tones
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Geoff Holmes
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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:39 am:   

....maybe with good reason......
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Hardin Smith
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Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 07:20 pm:   

5 great debuts, IMHO:

Howlin' Wind - Graham Parker
My Aim is True - Elvis Costello
Diary of a Mod Housewife - Amy Rigby
Jesus of Cool - Nick Lowe
Too Long in the Wasteland - James McMurtry

And, one more...in a way, this feels like cheating, because the Kinks debuted a long time ago. However, this is technically his first solo album:

Other People's Lives - Ray Davies
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Ian Britchfield
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 10:00 am:   

Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Rattlesnakes
UB40 - Signing Off
Stone Roses - Stone Roses
Specials - Specials
Madness - One Step Beyond
Martin Stephenson & Daintees - Boat to Bolivia
The Housemartins - London 0 Hull 4
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   

Favorites of mine not mentioned:

The Three O'Clock - Sixteen Tambourines
Bangles - All Over The Place
The Rain Parade - Emergency Third Rail Power Trip
Slowdive - Just For A Day
Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
Wire - Pink Flag
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
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Paul Swinford
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:53 am:   

Like most everyone, my favorite debuts list heavily favors 20+ year-old releases. Not that I'm a fanatical for ranking things in order, but from top to bottom this list probably reflects the overall number of spins:

A Ripping Spin – Salem 66
Vs – Mission of Burma
Days of Wine & Roses – Dream Syndicate
Heavens – Big Dipper
Catholic Boy – Jim Carroll Band
Gravity Talks – Green on Red
Strungout on Jargon - Death of Samantha
Dali Does Windows - Defenestration
Los Angeles – X
The Pretenders – The Pretenders
Entertainment – Gang of Four
I Just Can’t Stop It – English Beat
Crocodiles - Echo & the Bunnymen
The Virginian - Neko Case
Rabbit Fur Coat - Jenny Lewis & the Watson Twins
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 01:23 pm:   

Welcome aboard Paul! Are Salem 66 from Salem? I spent a night there in 1990. I saw no witches. I think I've heard of Death of Samantha back in my Boston days, but I could be mixing them up with someone else. Defenestration are definitely new to me. What a great name for a band!
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Paul Swinford
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:32 pm:   

Thank you, Padraig. It's nice to join the discussion. Salem 66 was from Boston. They'd hope to name themselves Salem 666, but that last '6' didn't fit on the bass drum.

Most of the wiccans in Salem look mainstream. Though there are plenty of touristy shops that play on the Brothers Grimm images.

Death of Samantha was from Cleveland. Guided by Voices and Cobra Verde arose from their ashes. Defenestration - the one I'm referring to at least - was from Norman, Oklahoma. Tyson Meade was their lead singer. A wonderful cross of bubblegum and hard rock. Great fun indeed. Dali Does Windows was put out by Relativity. They had some in-fighting issues and broke up the following year. Too, too bad. They had such potential. Meade went on to form Chainsaw Kittens and do a little solo stuff. You can still find Defenestration's vinyl on occasion. They should not be confused with the heavy metal Defenestration that hailed from UK between 2000 and 2004.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   

I love Salem 66! I got the antho "Your Soul is Mine, Fork it Over" in the late 80s and played the hell out of it. I never knew anything about them. I'm pulling that out to take to work with me. I wonder if Royalchord is aware of them? They have a similar attachment to doleful minor key guitar music.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   

Whoa, someone mentioned Salem 66?!? A friend of my girlfriend has been dating this guy, Steven Smith, who used to play guitar for Salem 66 back in the 80s. He's since relocated to the Bay ARea, and he's now in a band called the Morning Line. He's a funny guy.

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