| Author | Message | ||
     Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 52 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kuba A had a great idea and reeled off a list of classic debuts, most of which I know, but some I don't...cause I only buy one album a year, listen to Colplay and don't rate Captain Beefheart!!!! The list was pretty good but do you good people have any more? I'm not a huge OZ-rock fan but I think the Hoodoo gurus "Stonage Romeos" is pretty close to perfect as is "Rattlesnakes". What do you reckon?????? | ||
| Eke Member Username: Ekewebb Post Number: 38 Registered: 05-2005 |
This is almost too easy as most artists' first albums are their best but I think all of these are stone cold classics. "Velvet Underground & Nico" "Marquee Moon" "Never Mind The Bollocks" "Heart of the Congos" "Yo! Bum Rush The Show" "Scott" "The Lexicon Of Love" | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 130 Registered: 05-2005 |
VU and Nico Unknown Pleasures Entertainment The Stooges The Clash Marquee Moon 2 7s Clash Heart of The Congos Burning Spear Murmer | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 173 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kevin has 4 of mine: Unknown Pleasures The Clash Marquee Moon Murmer remainder being: The Smiths The Fall - Live The Witch Trials Oasis - Def Maybe Aztec Camera - High land hard rain Blue Nile - Walk across the rooftops Magazine - Real Life (Scond Ahand is outstanding too) | ||
| Mark Tuffield Member Username: Mark_t Post Number: 12 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Red Guitars - Slow to Fade The Pale Fountains - Pacific Street The Blue Aeroplanes - Bop Art (perhaps not Spence?) | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 177 Registered: 05-2005 |
Add those 3 to my list Mark, nice one re Pale Fountains, recently been playing Shack HMS Fable too. | ||
| Simon Withers Member Username: Sfwithers Post Number: 15 Registered: 08-2005 |
VU and Nico (by common consent, it seems...) Buffalo Springfield – Buffalo Springfield REM - Murmur (though not as good as Reckoning...) The Who – The Who Sings My Generation The Cure – Three Imaginary Boys The Teardrop Explodes – Kilimanjaro | ||
| Mark Tuffield Member Username: Mark_t Post Number: 13 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yes HMS Fable is a corker, recall seeing them live at the Shepherds Bush Empire about the time of its release. Much talk of it being a “break-through” album – oh well !! Warming to this theme, could I add:- Fox Base Alpha – St Etienne Throwing Muses – Throwing Muses Falling and Laughing – Orange Juice (did they have one on Postcard before this ? or were Postcard just singles) Talking of Orange Juice, one of my favourite albums of recent years is You can make it if you boogie by James Kirk on the wonderful Marina label. | ||
| Wilson Davey Member Username: Wilson Post Number: 31 Registered: 05-2005 |
I want to say The Smiths but it lacked something, "Hatful" is much representative of them at the time the debut came out... Murmur - still finding things on there ! Crocodiles Ron Sexsmith - self titled Stone Roses You can't hide your love forever -OJ The Clash Aztec Camera HLHR Does Astra Weeks count ? - still yielding something I cannot explain. Not very original I know | ||
| Wilson Davey Member Username: Wilson Post Number: 32 Registered: 05-2005 |
I saw the "Paleys" back in 1982. Got their early singles as well on 12".I love the cinemascope element of the songs. Thank You, Southbound Excursion, Jeans not happening (great guitar break and the video is good too). Is The Strands LP worth getting anyone ? James Kirk; reminds me I bought the Memphis 12" single as well "You supply the roses". Not played it in years and it probably hasn't dated too well. I loved the James Kirk track "Nilsson"on a Uncut CD a couple of years ago, was tempted for the LP, is it any cop ? | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 150 Registered: 04-2005 |
The first Television, VU, and Clash albums are the three greatest debuts in my book. A few of my other favorite debuts that I don't think have been mentioned yet: Ramones - self-titled Auteurs - New Wave M.I.A. - Arular (this has grown on me a lot the past few months) Arcade Fire - Funeral Patti Smith - Horses XTC - White Music | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 179 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yeah forgot Yo Bum Rush the Show is an utter debut gem. Mark, it was You can't hide your love forever the first Orange Juice LP. That shaped my youth that album. James Kirk album I still to get but like Wilson that Nilsson track is grrrreat. Must get it. I remember bumping into Justin from Del Amitri a few years ago, I used to know them pretty well and he said he'd always loved OJ and would love to wrok with them, and I think he did he's on that Kirk CD, and he had Edwyn produce some Dels stuff. XTC fro,m Kurt too, forgot about that. Thank you by the Paleys!! What a song, what an album, they looked extremely cool the Pale Fountains. The Strands sounds good have only heard a few songs. I'm doing a cover of Hey Mama soon from Waterpistol with my group The Winnebago Orchestra. We're slowing it down and doing it very differently. | ||
| Stephen Harris Member Username: Smh Post Number: 23 Registered: 05-2005 |
most of the above and The Specials Woodentops - Giant The Modern Lovers Mogwai - Young Team Tindersticks June Brides and I love Edwyn Collins solo debut | ||
| Stephen Harris Member Username: Smh Post Number: 24 Registered: 05-2005 |
and how have we all missed out Danger In The Past? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 188 Registered: 03-2005 |
So many nominees . . . . My additions to those above: First, from the 60s: "The Pretty Things", "The Move", "Psychedelic Sounds"--13th Floor Elevators, "The Stooges", "The Gilded Palace of Sin"--Flying Burrito Bros. Also released in 1971 but really from the 60s: "Innovations"--Duffy Power. Wilson, "Astral Weeks" was not Van Morrison's first album; "Blowin' Your Mind" came first and produced his first solo hit "Brown Eyed Girl." From later times: "Here Come the Warm Jets"--Eno, "Crazy Rhythms"--Feelies, "A Century Ends"--David Gray, "Tigermilk"--you know who. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 190 Registered: 03-2005 |
Sorry, I meant to include The Dream Syndicate's "Days of Wine and Roses" on that list too. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 180 Registered: 05-2005 |
At the risk of getting you all hot and bothered and foaming at the mouth - U2's Boy was a great debut. Well, I haven't played it since 1988 when my first record player broke and it has not troubled either of my subsequent decks. One of these I will dig it out and see if I still love it though. Please note I'm not saying Boy was the best debut ever. Just one that I loved for a long time. Murmur is the greatest debut ever. Power Of Dreams' Immigrants, Mmigrants And Me is probably the best Irish debut. I only have it on cassette and it's long since deleted. Can anyone help me out with a burned copy? By the way, HMS Fable was not Shack's debut. Waterpistol came before it. There was possibly another before that too. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 182 Registered: 05-2005 |
That should be Immigrants, Emigrants And Me, of course. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 185 Registered: 10-2004 |
microdisney - everybody's fantastic REM - chronic town (well, it's an ep, but still...) aztec camera - high land, hard rain smiths - smiths teardrop exlodes - kilimanjaro nick drake - five leaves left cure - three imaginary boys left banke - pretty ballerina/walk away renee cocteau twins - garlands associates - affectionate punch everything but the girl - eden jorge ben - samba esquema novo kevin ayers - joy of a toy momus - circus maximus prefab sprout - swoon cowboys int'l - original sin and to whomever asked if the strands record is good: yes! it's excellent! one of michael head's strongest records. | ||
| Wilson Davey Member Username: Wilson Post Number: 34 Registered: 05-2005 |
Totally forgot about Martin Stephenson & the Daintees - Boat to Bolivia. Some great songs on there like Crocodile Cryer.. | ||
| David Matheson Member Username: David_matheson Post Number: 52 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lloyd Cole & the Commotions - Rattlesnakes Archie Roach - Charcoal Lane Luka Bloom - Riverside | ||
| Mark Tuffield Member Username: Mark_t Post Number: 14 Registered: 05-2005 |
Walked into my kitchen last night and had a Homer Simpson moment when I picked up my cassette of You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever… Wilson, I find myself at odd moments humming (badly) songs from the James Kirk CD, there is a great deal of humour in them, not surprising perhaps from the man behind Wan Light and Three Cheers For Our Team. Overall there is a bit of a country feel to the record and James has a very warm singing voice. As a ”Paleys”/Shack fan I was a bit disappointed by the Strands CD, can’t put a finger on why, must have another listen to it. I see Shack are touring soon, Concorde 2, Brighton on May 16 anyone ? Love – Boat to Boliva – alas my cassette copy refuses to play these days… | ||
| jerry hann Member Username: Jerry_h Post Number: 68 Registered: 07-2005 |
Love the Daintees, but fialed to bem oved by there subsequent records, in fact the 2nd albim was the first cd I bough for my wife when it came out,and form that great record shop in Sheffied called "Record Collector".May be grat record shops around the world would be another good thread. Then if iI go to NY/Sydney/LA I'll now where to go | ||
| M. Mark Burgess Member Username: Fortysomething Post Number: 74 Registered: 05-2005 |
Agree that Murmur is hard to beat but would add Crocodiles The Modern Dance Monster Movie Roxy Music Los Angeles-X | ||
| XY765 Member Username: Judge Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2006 |
The Modern Lovers - Modern Lovers The Stooges - The Stooges The Smiths - The Smiths VU & Nico - VU & Nico (bit of a pattern here) Jeusu & Mary Chain - Psychocandy The Wedding Present - George Best Patti Smith - Horses that'll do for the moment... | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 191 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jeff nice Momus spot, Circus Maximus is superb isn't it!? Around '86, I used to go down to London a lot had some friends who knew Nick Currie and as I used to write him a lot we arranged a meet and I used to always see him for a chat when I used to go down there, really nice guy. I remember being on a red London bus at 10 o'clock on a Sunday morning talking about how great the Fairlight computer / emulator sounded on Circus Maximus! What weird folk eh, or boring folk one of the two... | ||
| Roger Griffin Member Username: Roger Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2004 |
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 179 Registered: 08-2004 |
XY765, that's a good start, though I think Psychocandy sounds a bit dated now. George best is brilliant, Arctic Monkeys would sound a lot different if it wasn't for David Gedge IMHO. Trying to spot some that haven't been suggested so far. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything The Specials Talking Heads:77 Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 181 Registered: 08-2004 |
Leftfield - Leftism Fluke - The Techno Rose Of Blighty | ||
| Roger Griffin Member Username: Roger Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2004 |
The Durutti Column - The Return Of.. Scritti Politti - Songs To Remember | ||
| XY765 Member Username: Judge Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2006 |
Jerry, i agree about Psychocandy but a seminal album at the time all the same...wasn't sure whether Isn't Anything is a real first album, bit of a discussion on the Best 2nd album thread about that and tigermilk is a cracker too.. | ||
| Per Stam Member Username: Matsrep Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2005 |
Some quick ones: You Can't Hide Your Love Forever - Orange Juice Old No 1 - Guy Clark Alchemy - Richard Lloyd (although he made 2 w tv of course) HLHR - Aztec Camera You Can Make It If You Boogie - James Kirk (and 1 w OJ) Boat To Bolivia - Martin Stephenson & The Daintees The Phantoms & The Archetypes - Paul Quinn & The Independent Group Blank Generation - Richard Hell & The Voidoids | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 80 Registered: 05-2005 |
how about Real Life by Magazine | ||
| M. Mark Burgess Member Username: Fortysomething Post Number: 76 Registered: 05-2005 |
Also Lone Justice | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 200 Registered: 05-2005 |
yeah think i got real life too. it realy sounds '78 that album, I love it. Devoto was great. Paul Quinn's an interesting one, superb voice, almost on a par with Billy Mackenzie I think, I know that's hard to believe but I really think Quinn is one of Scotland's great lost singers. I was always awaiting the Boutgie Bourgie album, but it wasn't to be. Anbody heard The Leopards, Mick Slaven's group ex Bourhie? They're cool, ain't got anythiong by em tho. | ||
| Wilson Davey Member Username: Wilson Post Number: 42 Registered: 05-2005 |
What was Mitch Easters band called around the same time as Lone Justice, Green on red etc ? I recall some good stuff, they also supported the bunnymen in 84'. It's come to me now "Lets Active" | ||
| Roger Griffin Member Username: Roger Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2004 |
If you don't count Down Below as it's a mini-album, I'd nominate The Cruel Sea - This Is Not The Way Home Also - Laurie Anderson - Big Science JJ Cale - Naturally Robert Forster - Danger In The Past | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 154 Registered: 04-2005 |
Yeah, Let's Active--they made some records that sounded pretty good to me at the time, not so good now. Their first full-length record--"Cypress"--was probably their best. | ||
| pd Member Username: Peter_d Post Number: 8 Registered: 05-2005 |
How about the Icicle Works debut ? | ||
| Eke Member Username: Ekewebb Post Number: 42 Registered: 05-2005 |
Leftfield and Fluke - good ones Jerry. That reminds me that I shamefully forgot Massive Attack's Blue Lines and Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 204 Registered: 05-2005 |
Masive! Of course!!!!!!!! Icicle Works, hasn't aged well for me, although great songwriting... | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 184 Registered: 08-2004 |
I understand Eke, it's easy to get wrapped up in guitar pop, house & techno albums are often overlooked/looked down upon. Sabres Of Paradise - Smokebelch Electribe 101 - Electribal Memories Soundclash Republic - The Sound Of Shiva Shanti Hypnotone - Hypnotone Love Corporation - Tones | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 56 Registered: 05-2005 |
....maybe with good reason...... | ||
| Hardin Smith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 17 Registered: 03-2006 |
5 great debuts, IMHO: Howlin' Wind - Graham Parker My Aim is True - Elvis Costello Diary of a Mod Housewife - Amy Rigby Jesus of Cool - Nick Lowe Too Long in the Wasteland - James McMurtry And, one more...in a way, this feels like cheating, because the Kinks debuted a long time ago. However, this is technically his first solo album: Other People's Lives - Ray Davies | ||
| Ian Britchfield Member Username: Ian_b Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2006 |
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Rattlesnakes UB40 - Signing Off Stone Roses - Stone Roses Specials - Specials Madness - One Step Beyond Martin Stephenson & Daintees - Boat to Bolivia The Housemartins - London 0 Hull 4 | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 45 Registered: 01-2005 |
Favorites of mine not mentioned: The Three O'Clock - Sixteen Tambourines Bangles - All Over The Place The Rain Parade - Emergency Third Rail Power Trip Slowdive - Just For A Day Kate Bush - The Kick Inside Wire - Pink Flag Pixies - Surfer Rosa | ||
| Paul Swinford Member Username: Prema Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2005 |
Like most everyone, my favorite debuts list heavily favors 20+ year-old releases. Not that I'm a fanatical for ranking things in order, but from top to bottom this list probably reflects the overall number of spins: A Ripping Spin – Salem 66 Vs – Mission of Burma Days of Wine & Roses – Dream Syndicate Heavens – Big Dipper Catholic Boy – Jim Carroll Band Gravity Talks – Green on Red Strungout on Jargon - Death of Samantha Dali Does Windows - Defenestration Los Angeles – X The Pretenders – The Pretenders Entertainment – Gang of Four I Just Can’t Stop It – English Beat Crocodiles - Echo & the Bunnymen The Virginian - Neko Case Rabbit Fur Coat - Jenny Lewis & the Watson Twins | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 244 Registered: 05-2005 |
Welcome aboard Paul! Are Salem 66 from Salem? I spent a night there in 1990. I saw no witches. I think I've heard of Death of Samantha back in my Boston days, but I could be mixing them up with someone else. Defenestration are definitely new to me. What a great name for a band! | ||
| Paul Swinford Member Username: Prema Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2005 |
Thank you, Padraig. It's nice to join the discussion. Salem 66 was from Boston. They'd hope to name themselves Salem 666, but that last '6' didn't fit on the bass drum. Most of the wiccans in Salem look mainstream. Though there are plenty of touristy shops that play on the Brothers Grimm images. Death of Samantha was from Cleveland. Guided by Voices and Cobra Verde arose from their ashes. Defenestration - the one I'm referring to at least - was from Norman, Oklahoma. Tyson Meade was their lead singer. A wonderful cross of bubblegum and hard rock. Great fun indeed. Dali Does Windows was put out by Relativity. They had some in-fighting issues and broke up the following year. Too, too bad. They had such potential. Meade went on to form Chainsaw Kittens and do a little solo stuff. You can still find Defenestration's vinyl on occasion. They should not be confused with the heavy metal Defenestration that hailed from UK between 2000 and 2004. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 259 Registered: 03-2005 |
I love Salem 66! I got the antho "Your Soul is Mine, Fork it Over" in the late 80s and played the hell out of it. I never knew anything about them. I'm pulling that out to take to work with me. I wonder if Royalchord is aware of them? They have a similar attachment to doleful minor key guitar music. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 236 Registered: 10-2004 |
Whoa, someone mentioned Salem 66?!? A friend of my girlfriend has been dating this guy, Steven Smith, who used to play guitar for Salem 66 back in the 80s. He's since relocated to the Bay ARea, and he's now in a band called the Morning Line. He's a funny guy. |