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 kevin
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 Username: Kevin
 
 Post Number: 293
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 10:19 pm: |  | 
 the "sweetest" girl - scritti pollitti
 this charming man - the smiths
 rowche rumble - the fall
 shipbuilding - robert wyatt
 nag nag nag - cabaret voltaire
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 Hardin Smith
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 Username: Manosludge
 
 Post Number: 273
 Registered: 03-2006
 
 | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 12:05 am: |  | 
 Kev, this is far outside my sphere of expertise (though I love the stuff you mention that I know, like Wyatt's version of Shipbuilding), so I won't weigh in, but I had a related question: is the compilation "Rough Trade Guide to the Fall" a decent comp to get? I have some Fall, in fact, I got the Peel Radio Sessions box set, cuz it was like $20 used, am open to getting more, just don't wanna shell out for everything they've done over the past 30 yrs...due to those issues we discussed in the "Size" thread. So, I was looking for a few worthy entries...that partucular one is at my used shop...
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 kevin
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 Username: Kevin
 
 Post Number: 294
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:38 am: |  | 
 Its tough Hardin, but if I was going to recommend just 3 Fall albums for example they would be:
 Grotesque (after the gramme)
 Hex Enduction Hour
 This Nations Saving Grace
 These are from the early-mid 80s.If you wanted something more up to date, the last 2 albums are solid 8 out of 10 efforts
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 spence
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 Username: Spence
 
 Post Number: 337
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 04:57 pm: |  | 
 I have forgotten most of what I loved that was on Rough Trade
 Maybe..
 The Smiths - This Charming Man
 Scritti Politti - Asylums in Jerusalem
 
 Can't remember who else was on the label off-hand.
 Does anyone know wher on the Net I can find a history of Rough Trade and all its releases please?
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 Jeff Whiteaker
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 Username: Jeff_whiteaker
 
 Post Number: 299
 Registered: 10-2004
 
 | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 07:44 pm: |  | 
 let's see, without just listing a bunch of smiths singles, and restricting myself to one single per band:
 
 microdisney - dolly
 the smiths - heaven knows i'm miserable now
 go-betweens - man 'o sand to girl 'o sea
 aztec camera - oblivious
 wire - our swimmer
 
 honorable mention:
 
 weekend - drum beat for baby
 monochrome set - eine symphonie des grauens
 scritti politti - the sweetest girl
 vic godard - stop that girl
 troy tate - love is
 the fall - kicker conspiracy/wings
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 spence
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 Username: Spence
 
 Post Number: 339
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:34 pm: |  | 
 jeff that'll be my list can you loan it to me!?
 
 A great band by the way Dislocation Dance, they were a bit like Weekend.
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 Hardin Smith
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 Username: Manosludge
 
 Post Number: 285
 Registered: 03-2006
 
 | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:39 pm: |  | 
 Thanks for the suggestions, kev. I will seek those out.
 
 btw, I have the latest (?) "Fall Heads Roll" but can't get it to play on my CD player! That wacky Fall chose to issue it as a black CD, in other words, the whole reflective side is colored black, and my CD player doesn't like that (is your copy black?)...and of course, I've lost the receipt. but, I've heard snippets - it sounds like it would, at least in theory, be a great, rockin' CD.
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 Jeff Whiteaker
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 Username: Jeff_whiteaker
 
 Post Number: 302
 Registered: 10-2004
 
 | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:42 pm: |  | 
 Yeah, I really like Discolation Dance.  Seems like they were pretty underrated, though.  But I think their two full length LPs are great. And they shared the Paleys' trumpet player Andy Diagram!
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 spence
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 Username: Spence
 
 Post Number: 341
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:37 am: |  | 
 Tyrannies of fun, what a splendorous slice of 80's pop!
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 kevin
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 Username: Kevin
 
 Post Number: 320
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |  | 
 Hardin, disappointingly my copy of FHR has a boring silver reflective side. I have never heard of CDs with a black reflective side, is this a USA thing?
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 kevin
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 Username: Kevin
 
 Post Number: 323
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 12:38 pm: |  | 
 spence - try these links to Rough Trade discographies
 
 http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Pinko/soft__boring_hippies__a_short_history_of_the _rough_trade_label__pt__1__singles
 
 http://www.discogs.com/label/Rough+Trade+(UK)
 
 http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/rt.doc
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 spence
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 Username: Spence
 
 Post Number: 343
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 01:00 pm: |  | 
 great Kev, much appreciated.
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 Hardin Smith
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 Username: Manosludge
 
 Post Number: 287
 Registered: 03-2006
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 04:01 pm: |  | 
 Kevin, it's at least a USA thing for FHR...they touted it as a special limited edition, or some bs like that...don't know if you can get it with a silver side here, though.
 
 I have had other CDs with black sides (that actually play) before, though...one that comes to mind is the Jay-Z black album (that has one of my all time faves, 99 Problems, on it).
 
 Spence, don't know if you feel like shelling out for it, but the excellent post-punk history, "Rip It Up and Start Again" has a good and really informative chapter on Rough Trade.
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 spence
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 Username: Spence
 
 Post Number: 347
 Registered: 05-2005
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 04:08 pm: |  | 
 Thanks to kev fo his sterling efforts in locating Rough Trade discography I can now submit my top faves, without being too unjust to too many great bands on there!
 The Monochrome Set - Eine Symphonie Des Graunes
 Scritti Politti - Jacques Derrida
 Aztec Camera-Oblivious/Walk out to Winter
 The Smiths-This Charming Man
 Jazzateers	-16 Reasons
 The Go-Betweens-Man O’Sand To Girl O’Sea
 Microdisney-Birthday Girl
 Shelleyan Orphan-Anatomy Of Love
 Band Of Holy Joy-Tactless
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