| Author | Message | ||
     skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 900 Registered: 10-2008 |
tom verlaine - words from the front | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 901 Registered: 10-2008 |
the posies - frosting on the beater | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 818 Registered: 04-2006 |
yes - close to the edge | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1519 Registered: 08-2006 |
Kev, I thought I posted this on the other thread in response to your mention of the Verlaine binge (apparently not), but The Miller's Tale comp contains what may be my fave Verlaine solo tune (and there are a lot): "Sixteen Tulips." How that song never made it on a CD, I'll never know. It sounds like it was recorded around the time of The Wonder, which it would have improved. But I dunno. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 902 Registered: 10-2008 |
rob, spookily, just as i read your post i am listening to the miller's tale comp - the track playing currently is words from the front. its a great comp. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1920 Registered: 09-2006 |
Agreed, though I feel slightly funny, being that TV's said in more than one interview that he was never paid a dime for it. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2088 Registered: 10-2004 |
Max Eider - Best Kisser in the World | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1921 Registered: 09-2006 |
Nick Lowe - The Abominable Showman, Nick the Knife, and Pinker and Prouder Than Previous | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1991 Registered: 01-2005 |
Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 907 Registered: 10-2008 |
tom verlaine - flash light | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1992 Registered: 01-2005 |
Squeeze - Cool For Cats | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 915 Registered: 10-2008 |
tom verlaine - tom verlaine | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3702 Registered: 05-2005 |
Dogs Die in Hot Cars - Please Describe Yourself Kevin, have you heard the new Posies album? It's their best since Frosting I think. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3703 Registered: 05-2005 |
Get The Message: The Best Of Electronic | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 917 Registered: 10-2008 |
napster have it padraig. i gave it a quick listen, didnt really grab me. it has been getting really positive reviews so i will give it a serious listen soon. i have been binging on tom verlaine, chris and cosey and gregory isaacs for the last fortnight or so, not much time to listen to anything else. and this. perverted by language (2 cd reissue from 2005) - the fall | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 918 Registered: 10-2008 |
x - los angeles | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3704 Registered: 05-2005 |
Planxty - Timedance | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1924 Registered: 09-2006 |
Spurred by Kevin's Verlaine binge I've gone back to Cover...even better than I remembered from my last listen. So much going on in every song. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1995 Registered: 01-2005 |
Freddie Redd - Shades Of Redd One of the best unknown jazz albums out there, and it comes highly recommended by me. Great alto and tenor sax interplay by Jackie McLean and Tina Brooks, add to that the fantasic trio backing them up lead by Freddie on piano, and Detroit greats Paul Chamber on bass and Louis Hayes on drums. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1522 Registered: 08-2006 |
Cover took a long time to grow on me, Allen, maybe because it sounded so thin compared to Flash Light, which I heard first. But I agree, Everytime I play it now it sounds terrific. The production dates it badly, but the tunes are killer. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 920 Registered: 10-2008 |
all this recent talk of tom verlaine and brian eno has taken me back to two landmark 1978 albums the eno co-produced more songs about buildings and food by talking heads, and adventure by television. rob, cover does sound a bit dated production wise, but for 1984 it comes up relatively smelling of roses, rather than smelling of the brown stuff like too many other albums of that era! the songs and musicians ultimately carry it through. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 1056 Registered: 08-2004 |
Television's 'Adventure'is a pretty decent set of songs. It doesn't have the same edginess that 'Marquee Moon' has for me. I much prefer the murky sound & sepia cover of MM Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Show Your Bones | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2091 Registered: 10-2004 |
Sometimes More Songs is my very favorite Talking Heads record. Eno's production really lends that album a nice, subtly colorful atmosphere. I also love Adventure. Unlike most people, I probably like it about as much as Marquee Moon. Days is such an amazingly good song! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 922 Registered: 10-2008 |
and me jeff, i love adventure equally to marquee moon. while jerry's point has some credence, for me the fact that it isnt marquee moon part 2 is a good thing. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1997 Registered: 01-2005 |
Kev, I think I'm going to grab a copy of perverted by language (2 cd reissue from 2005) - the fall, as I don't own that album in any version. It's out of print after only five years. It'a been a while since I've listened to adventure, and I'll give it a spin. I have an older version on cd and not the reissue (I bought the reissue of Marquee Moon a half dozen years ago along with the live 6/29/78 Waldorf CD). | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1927 Registered: 09-2006 |
Michael, it's definitely worth your while to upgrade on Adventure - infinitely better sound, and mostly excellent bonus tracks. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 925 Registered: 10-2008 |
michael, perverted by language is one of the fall albums that i never played much in recent years. i think this was because it wasnt one that i remembered too fondly, although at a distance of 25 years plus since its release i now recognise its greatness in the expanded version of this album. at the time of release in 1983, after the immense albums grotesque and hex enduction hour, i found it to be another disappointment following the patchy mini album room to live. garden, i feel voxish and smile were obviously great, hexen definitive was excellent but i was a bit underwhelmed with the rest. i thought eat y'self fitter was just novelty and why the hell was tempo house live and not a studio cut? now, i have learned to love eat y'self fitter, and the fact that the reissue includes both sides of the man who's head expanded, and kicker conspiracy singles make it a fantastic snapshot of the fall sound of 1983. the live version of tempo house still grates on me though! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2094 Registered: 10-2004 |
I LOVE Perverted by Language, and it's always been one of my favorites. It was part of my intro to the Fall, being among the first 4 or so albums by them that I bought. The only thing I don't like on it is Tempo House which is far too long and goes absolutely nowhere. The rest of it is brilliant. It's kinda stripped down due to Marc Riley's departure. Brix joined, but you can tell she's not really doing much on this album - most of the guitar sounds distinctively Scanlon. Nevertheless, I think it's a bizarre, slightly challenging, and really good record. Eat Y'Self Fitter is epic and to me seems to encompass what the Fall were all about then - highly repetitive, skeletal arrangement, offbeat yet still decipherable lyrics (once you get into the MES frame of mine), jagged and atonal guitar that's almost kind of naggingly catchy, and that pounding twin drum attack. Then the album shifts into the mid-tempo rocker Neighborhood of Infinity, which is a very simple, Fall-ish riff played relentlessly and menacingly. Garden is just amazing - another epic, it has this strange, dreamy, quality to it with its gently primitive tom-pounding beat and Scanlon's scratchy (yet strangely evocative) guitar part, and Hanley's catchy bass line. Kind of ponderous but in a good way! The minor key Hotel Bloedel features a shaky lead vocal by Brix. Smile's tension builds to a relentless near-crescendo. I Feel Voxish is just classic, driving Fall with one of those instantly recognizable Hanley basslines and a thumping straight-ahead beat. Hexen Definitive/Strife Knot is quite melancholy and pretty, possibly one of the prettiest songs I've heard them do. It's still discordant and strange, but for the Fall, it was a bit different. So, I rate the album very highly, and it's much better than Room to Live, which is patchy despite containing a few classics. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 926 Registered: 10-2008 |
clock dva - advantage. another great album from 1983 | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3705 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jimmie Dale Gilmore - One Endless Night. Almost chucked it in a clean out (350 tapes and 50 CDs binned), but gave it one last chance to win me over. It won. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3706 Registered: 05-2005 |
Tripping Daisy's Jesus Hits Like The Atom Bomb also survived the cull. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2505 Registered: 03-2005 |
All this discussion of "Perverted by Language" has made me pull out my copy. I never had this particular album until a few years ago so I have the 2002 reissue. I had about half of it on the CD comps that were readily available when I was discovering the Fall in the mid-80s. "Garden" was the big immediate standout for me of the songs I hadn't heard before. I do find it an odd decision to start the reissue CD with the singles rather than the album. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2506 Registered: 03-2005 |
And now, since they came through the door slot: Jackie De Shannon--s/t Her first LP, all folkie numbers and none self-penned. Arranger: Jack Nitzsche. Most of it's pretty good to excellent but there's no excuse for ever doing "Puff, the Magic Dragon." After that: Jackie DeShannon--The Complete Liberty Singles Vol. 1. There are 26 songs on here and it only gets as far as 1963, all in buffed and polished monophonic. I already had maybe 1/2 of these songs at the most and I have a lot of Jackie DeShannon. Thirteen of the songs are self-penned and not just the B-sides. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 927 Registered: 10-2008 |
Randy, my version of Perverted by Language has the singles tacked on at the end - probably better this way. My copy of Bend Sinister is crazy, it has singles from the period scattered almost randomly amongst the original album tracks. That might be ok if you hadnt heard the original album and hadnt got used to the running order, but i had and therefore find it weird. Luckily I have the vinyl copy of the original album to fall back on if the mood takes me. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2003 Registered: 01-2005 |
Eno - Before and After Science I ordered the remastered Television - "Adventure" and The Fall - "Perverted by Language". Thanks to all for the reviews! I wonder why The Fall's "Bend Sinster" wasn't reissued yet? I don't own it on disc or vinyl or 1990's "Extricate", but I'm leaning on the remastered double disc version of the later being my next Fall procurement. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2507 Registered: 03-2005 |
Kevin, I have the old Beggars Banquet version of Bend Sinister from 1986 with a total of 12 tracks. Is that the same as the vinyl? I've always thought it a fantastic sequence which is why it's my favorite Fall album. What were the singles? I always found the Fall CD reissues bewildering and couldn't tell if they were just rip-off repackaging affairs which is why--for years--I didn't even look at them. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2095 Registered: 10-2004 |
Funny, my Perverted by Language CD (on Line Records) has exactly the same songs and running order as the original LP. No bonus tracks. Same with my CD of Bend Sinister (Beggars Banquet), except that it has Auto-Tech Pilot tacked onto the end. I've never been a fan of Extricate - I've always found it to be bland. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 928 Registered: 10-2008 |
randy, i made a mistake. it's not "bend sinister" which has the crazy running order on my copy, its actually "this nations saving grace". rather than append the singles(and two extra tracks that were neither singles or original album tracks)at the end of "this nations..." there is a random scattered approach to the placement of these songs. after the old side one there is a song called vixen(which wasnt a single), followed by couldnt get ahead (which was). then it recommences with the whole of the old side 2, and then concludes with petty thief lout(not a single), rollin danny(b side of couldnt get ahead) and finally cruisers creek (another single). i would have placed all of these extra tracks at the end, or at least put rollin danny after couldnt get ahead given that they were a and b sides of the same single. reading this back, i realise that this is without doubt the most trainspotterish post ive ever made :-) my copy of bend sinister does have 2 extra tracks. the first, living too late, is placed at the end of the old side one, and auto tech pilot is placed at the end of the old side 2. again, you might wonder why both extra tracks werent appended at the end, it doesnt seem to make much sense. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2508 Registered: 03-2005 |
So "Living Too Late" and "Auto Tech Pilot" are not originally on the album? Hmmm, I have to absorb that. I bought the CD when it was a new release. That was probably back when record labels would add a "bonus song" onto a CD to try to encourage sales of what was still a relatively new and expensive product. I'm used to those two songs being there and consider them both important anchors that go a long way to create the overall impression that I've always had of "Bend Sinister" as the dark Fall album, kind of their "Secondhand Daylight." | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 824 Registered: 04-2006 |
great to read about jimmie dale gilmore(didn't have this album, but i loved his work with the flatlanders and his first solo albums), clock dva's advantage (the only clock dva album i have and liked very much), the freddie redd album (thanks michael. this is new to me, but i listened to the album on you tube: this is really a gem!), televison's adventure ( good to know that it has been reissued. maybe an album which is worth to buy as a cd as my vinyl isn't the best) and especially about perverted by language. around the release of this album i saw The Fall the first time live in a small venue. one of the highlight gigs of my life. the p.b.l. album is the only album by the fall i bought as a cd reissue until now( but bend sinister and this nation's saving grace are two albums which needs an ultimate version, too). jeff's description said it all! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 929 Registered: 10-2008 |
andreas, i dont think you have too long to wait for the "ultimate version" of this nations saving grace http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2009/11 /14/the-fall-this-nations-saving-grace-r eissue-omnibus-wonderful-frightening-wor ld-beggars/ i'm glad somebody else likes clock dva. i'm sure people on here would like them, maybe they already do? advantage was their most song based album, and very danceable to boot!! | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 826 Registered: 04-2006 |
great news, kevin. btw: this website is interesting. by scrolling through the site i stumbled over the entry on the 11th of november: andy partridge is now 57 years old. o.k. that isn't maybe interesting, but the scarecrow version shown as a video is brilliant. are there xtc admirers out there? | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2007 Registered: 01-2005 |
Count me in on getting a 3CD version of This Nation's Saving Grace. I've not listened to any of my XTC CD's in ages. They are one of those 80's bands (another being Camper Van Beethoven) that I've put aside. In fact, Oranges & Lemons was the last XTC studio album that I bought. Has there classic 80's albums been reissued? I wouldn't mind investigating better sounding Drums and Wires, Skylarking and Black Sea CD's. | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 331 Registered: 02-2007 |
Michael, check out XTC's Apple Venus 1 - it is a magnificent, lush pop gem. In my list of top almums of the last 10 years | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 932 Registered: 10-2008 |
jim sullivan - ufo. what a find this is. an obscure reissue just seeing the light of day again. sullivan was a west coast country rock nearly man. with the legendary phil spector's the wrecking crew session men as his backing band this album has echoes of nick drake,love, and gram parsons. bet randy knows of him! | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1928 Registered: 09-2006 |
Agreed, David...though I don't listen to as much XTC as I used to I'd happily put on that one, Skylarking, Drums and Wires, the Waxworks collection and Psonic Psunspot (I think that's the spelling) | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1929 Registered: 09-2006 |
Oh, and English Settlement. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2512 Registered: 03-2005 |
Kevin, I don't! I only know of Big Jim Sullivan who was one of the leading session guitarists in the U.K. during the '60s. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2097 Registered: 10-2004 |
I'll admit, when you say "country rock" and throw comparisons to Gram Parsons, I'm turned off. But then comparisons to Nick Drake and Love totally pique my interest. I'm so confused! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 933 Registered: 10-2008 |
randy, you should check this out, im sure you would love it. i read a review that mentioned gene clarks "no other", which admittedly i just cannot see. perhaps the reviewer mentioned this not because it sounds like "no other" but because it is also a "lost treasure" which is being re-evaluated. jeff - the reason i mention love is because like "forever changes" this album is loaded with strings. i'll send you both some samples. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2515 Registered: 03-2005 |
Kevin, thanks for the samples. Yes they evoke a certain flamboyant period in American (particularly Los Angeles) productions. I'll bet Hugh knows of Jim Sullivan because the songs you sent sound right up his street. Too bad they've been taken from a crappy worn-out vinyl source. I wonder if the tapes are gone or if somebody was lazy. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2516 Registered: 03-2005 |
Ok, I should have read your link before making the comment about the sound source. It sounds like they pursued the appropriate avenues to try to find the tapes. | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 288 Registered: 03-2007 |
Randy, I am sorry to disappoint but I had not heard of Jim Sullivan before Kevin mentioned him. It seems the album was originally released on a small private press label called Monnie Records which suggests it may not have made it across to the U.K. back then. I have to say I am a bit surprised at Kevin liking this one as I am hearing Glen Campbell rather than Nick Drake and Love. :-) I am familiar with the Light In The Attic label who have re-released the album as I have some re-issues they put out some years ago by the Free Design ( 1960s/1970's family vocal group from New York.) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 934 Registered: 10-2008 |
hugh, i have been doing a bit research on this album and the name glen campbell (or more specifically witchita lineman)crops up quite a few times. my mum was a big glen campbell fan and i heard his albums many times growing up, must have made some impression on me!! i can hear traces of nick drake in the vocals, and loads of forever changes in the arrangements. randy, on the sound quality, it was a friend who gave me a cd-r copy. i think its ripped from a vinyl copy of the album. i never asked where he sourced it, sometimes its better not to ask :-) my cd from amazon is in the post, from what i can gather it is quite a good reproduction taken from a cleaned up vinyl version - as you know the master tapes have been lost. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2098 Registered: 10-2004 |
Hugh - funny, I kinda heard Glen Campbell as well! Not a bad thing imo, but at least I'm not the only one. | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 289 Registered: 03-2007 |
Kevin, nothing wrong with Glen Campbell in my book. The guy has a great voice, is an accomplished guitarist and in his early years at least covered songs by some really good songwriters. I own copies of 'The Capitol Years: 1965 - 1977' and 'Reunited.' The later would certainly be one of my Desert Island Discs. It was originally released as a ten track album called 'Reunion' in 1974. It was written ( with the exception of two songs ) arranged and produced by Jimmy Webb. The two exceptions were a song by Lowell George of Little Feat and one by his sister Susan Webb. It did not produce any 'hit singles' and I read somewhere that it was the poorest selling album Campbell ever released. He continued to record Jimmy Webb songs however and sometime in the 1990s, Raven Records of Australia re-issued 'Reunion' as 'Reunited' adding a further fourteen Webb songs that he had recorded between 1974 and 1988 in the process. Jeff, I am glad it is not just me. :-) | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1931 Registered: 09-2006 |
Fleetwood Mac - Mr. Wonderful, Kiln House and Mystery to Me | ||
| Shane Greentree Member Username: Realinspectorshane Post Number: 75 Registered: 03-2007 |
Bob Dylan: Bringing It All Back Home | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1933 Registered: 09-2006 |
Bill Withers - Live at Carnegie Hall | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3717 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Great Western Squares - Almost Sober | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2103 Registered: 10-2004 |
The Passions -30,000 Feet Over China Lotus Eaters - No Sense of Sin China Crisis - Difficult Shapes and Passive Rhythms | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 243 Registered: 02-2005 |
Re: Tom Verlaine - 16 Tulips. That song is from a “lost album” that was rejected by Polydor. It was produced by Dave Banscombe. The Scientist Writes a Letter was salvaged for Flashlight and One Time At Sundown was re-recorded for that album. Nine songs from the aborted album were released as B-Sides and such. That may be the whole lot… it clocks-in at about 38-minutes. I reconstructed the album for my own listening pleasure as follows: * * * Sixteen Tulips Caveman-Flashlight Call Me The Circling The Scientist Writes a Letter * * * Vanity Fair Anna Smoother Than Jones One Time at Sundown * * * | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 244 Registered: 02-2005 |
Tom Verlaine anecdote: When Television reunited in the early-90’s they played three nights at The Academy Theater west of Times Square. My wife and I went to all three shows. We were up close and the first night there was a guy shouting out a request for “O Mi Amore” over and over throughout the set. I mean he’d scream it out 6 or 8 times between EACH song. After one particularly shrill “O MI AMORE!!!” I said out loud, “Enough already. I’d rather hear Sixteen Tulips.” Verlaine was tuning his guitar; he turned and smiled at me. Getting a reaction from the taciturn Tom Verlaine is not something I would ever purposefully try to do, but I was happy for him to know that I loved the song and that memory makes me smile. | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 245 Registered: 02-2005 |
It’s nice to see people tipping Television’s “Adventure” for the great album that it is. I moved to NYC in 1976 and got to see Television a number of times so I was very familiar with their repertoire when the albums appeared. Television could have made a Marquee Moon Pt. II if they’d wanted to; they had the material for it. Songs such as Breaking In My Heart and the original arrangement of Kingdom Come were great set-closing show-stoppers as early as the summer of ’75. O Mi Amore, Double Exposure, Poor Circulation, their cover of Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door… there was plenty of material for an equally-edgy guitar fest. I’ve always admired their courage doing what they did on their second album. Sequencing note: the title track, Adventure, was deleted from the album in the eleventh hour due to groove-cramming on LP test pressings. The song would have closed Side One and Carried Away was slated as the opening track on Side Two. If you look at the inner sleeve of the original album it’s clear that the lyrics to Adventure were simply removed from the end of the Side One sequence at the last minute. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 939 Registered: 10-2008 |
Thanks for posting Guy. Nice anecdote and info there for us Television/Verlaine addicts. Breaking in my heart is such a great song. I love the way that you long for the chorus to come in, but it never does till well into the song. Almost like Tom is teasing us. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1523 Registered: 08-2006 |
Hey, Guy: Nice to know someone else thinks highly of "Sixteen Tulips." Interesting about the "Lost Album" - I would've bet dollars to donuts that "Sixteen Tulips" was recorded post-"Flashlight," but it doesn't sound like it from your description. Thanks for the info. | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 246 Registered: 02-2005 |
The "lost album" is discussed in 'The Miller's Tale' liner notes and Disc 2 is sequenced chronologically so 'Anna' 'Sixteen Tulips' and 'Call Me The' precede 'At 4am' from Flashlight and 'Stalingrad' from The Wonder... then come the three tracks from the Television reunion album and sessions. BIG TV & Verlaine fan here. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 943 Registered: 10-2008 |
the jim sullivan album,ufo, arrived the other day. wonderful packaging and a booklet containing info on his life story. sounds like he was a big drinker, and frustrated with the direction his career was taking he set out for nashville but never made it. there are veiled theories that he was maybe done in by rogue cops, or strayed onto a military complex that was out of bounds and was "disposed of". the cd itself sounds a lot better than the samples i had obtained. there is no vinyl crackle or hiss for a start. the notes make reference to leaked mp3s doing the rounds that had "slightly skewed stereo image,phasiness, and smoothed out midrange from a lofi transfer". this release makes these leaked mp3s redundant, thank god. the strings on this official release sound wonderful and vibrant. one of the reissues of the year without doubt. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1936 Registered: 09-2006 |
Peter Stampfel & the Bottle Caps - s/t Buzzcocks - Spiral Scratch and Another Music in a Different Kitchen | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 944 Registered: 10-2008 |
lcd soundsystem - get innocuous. from the london sessions, and even better than the original album version. carrying the "remain in light" torch into the 21st century. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 945 Registered: 10-2008 |
now why did i put the above post in this topic, beats me!! so in here i shall put: bob dylan - blonde on blonde | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1940 Registered: 09-2006 |
Flipper - Sex Bomb, Baby! Donna Summer - Bad Girls | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1527 Registered: 08-2006 |
The Embarrassment - Heyday 1979-1983 Great, jumpy college guitar rock from the middle of Kansas. They had a sense of humor, too. Always a plus. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1945 Registered: 09-2006 |
Husker Du - Land Speed Record Dance to all of side one and you've accomplished your full cardio workout for the next two weeks. Make it to the end of side two and you'll be buff enough to star in your own action movie. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3718 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yes - Talk | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1951 Registered: 09-2006 |
Saint Etienne - the new deluxe editions for So Tough and Foxbase Alpha | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2020 Registered: 01-2005 |
How is the remastered sound Allen? | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1952 Registered: 09-2006 |
Very good, and the extras are numerous and primo. I just picked up the Finisterre and Continental deluxes as well. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2021 Registered: 01-2005 |
Digging my 2 CD Expanded Edition of The Fall -"Perverted By Language", as it finally showed up from the UK. It's a great Fall album (with the exception of Tempo House as Jeff pointed out). I listened to my newly arrived remastered version of Television - "Adventure" and it's a lot better then I remember it. It's going to get more plays that's for sure. My copy of Elvis Costello - "When I was Cruel" just showed up today, so I'll be checking that out. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 962 Registered: 10-2008 |
the distractions - nobodys perfect. long forgotten classic manchester band from 1981-ish. i wish i still had the single they released on factory records, its probably worth a small fortune. who would have thought factory would have a power pop, 60's influenced band on their roster! the album is on island records, my copy is pretty scratchy having been in transit so many times over the last 29 years or so. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2108 Registered: 10-2004 |
Kevin, I think "Time Goes By So Slow" is an incredible pop song, but I could never really warm up to their album. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 963 Registered: 10-2008 |
jeff, i know where you are coming from. it probably sounds a bit dated now to be honest, but i think the songs are of a high quality, its the production that dates it. it may be more up randy's street, i'll send him a couple of songs on the off chance he doesnt already have them. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2027 Registered: 01-2005 |
"Time Goes By So Slow" is a great pop song. I like the guitar break, it was almost heading into Tom Verlaine territory there for a second or two. I must admit I've never heard of them. Why was't "Nobody's Perfect" ever released on CD? Were the vinyl sales too small? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2524 Registered: 03-2005 |
I had never heard of the Distractions. The end part of "Time Goes By So Slow" is when it starts to really happen for me. Thanks for sending it, Kevin. In your mail you'll find the answer to your question about the other song you sent. Michael, my observation is that a lot of small-selling things released in the early 80s--shortly before the introduction of CDs--never saw CD release. Most of them were now just yesterday's news but not old enough to be revived and if they weren't earlier releases by artists enjoying continuing success they disappeared. Kissing the Pink used to fall into that pit but checking Amazon I see it's since been rectified. And I just might buy it. Some of my favorite anthologies met the same fate. In the late 70s a superb two LP set was issued in the U.K. pulling together great unknown--or barely known--tracks by minor league British beat era bands. It's called "Beat Merchants" which was also the name of the one of the bands. It's basically the Nuggets of the British beat boom. It's never been released on CD and a lot of the recordings on it have never shown up anywhere else. See For Miles issued a grossly inferior collection on CD under the same name. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1960 Registered: 09-2006 |
The Miracles - City of Angels | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3727 Registered: 05-2005 |
Matthew Sweet - Altered Beast. Heard it for the first time ever tonight (though I had heard several of the individual tracks before). I didn't buy it at the time as it got such bad reviews after the glorious Girlfriend. I wish I had bought it and made up my own mind. It's brilliant. (I got it for $5 last weekend). | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 967 Registered: 10-2008 |
its my favourite matthew sweet album padraig. it was also my first by him. dunno why, but i never took to girlfiend, try as i might. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2029 Registered: 01-2005 |
I'll give Girlfriend the slight nod (a 4 1/2 star or an A- album vs. a 4 star B+) over Altered Beast. I bought Girlfriend almost nineteen years ago (while I was doing my Christmas shopping)and also have great memories of seeing Matthew Sweet performing the bulk of the songs from Girlfriend as the opening act for Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians (12 February 1992). | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1962 Registered: 09-2006 |
I remember being put off at first by the lyrics on Girlfriend, which he puts right in your face and which aren't half as deep as he obviously thinks they are. It took a few listens before the gorgeous tunes began to do their work (helped along immeasurably by Quine and Lloyd doing their thing, of course). Padraig, I also like the B-side/live/demos/unreleased track "Son of Altered Beast" EP quite a bit as well. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3729 Registered: 05-2005 |
Glad I'm not alone in my newfound love of Altered Beast! I do love Girlfriend, though I always thought it could have lost a couple of tracks and been a better, shorter record. Perversely, I love the expanded two-disc version of it even more! My favourite Matthew Sweet record of all though is 100% Fun, which is his purest power pop album. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1963 Registered: 09-2006 |
Agreed, a lot of good stuff on that one. Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Spinning Around the Sun Grows lovelier all the time. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2109 Registered: 10-2004 |
Kraftwerk - Radioactivity I routinely neglect this album, as it's probably the album of theirs I like the least. It's still good, though. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1534 Registered: 08-2006 |
X - Wild Gift I know, duh, but when I played it last night it sounded like the only record I'd need to own. Amy Rigby - Diary of a Mod Housewife I'm still stunned no one has taken one of these songs and made a big, fat hit out of it. I count about six solid candidates, and I leave out the others only because they have too much character for mainstream radio. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1964 Registered: 09-2006 |
For a moment there I seemed to recall some country artist who'd taken a stab at "Beer and Kisses," but it must've been my mind playing tricks on me. No wait, that's it..."Mind Playing Tricks on Me." Toby Keith did such a great version of that - you could almost believe he was a volatile psychotic who'd blow you away for looking at him wrong. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1965 Registered: 09-2006 |
Still immersing in all of the Saint Etienne deluxe editions. Was especially happy to encounter the Tiger Bay and Turnpike House sets, as I didn't realize that the tracklisting for the US versions of those albums was extensively different from the UK ones, and a whole lot better, especially Tiger Bay - I remember being seriously disappointed at the time it first came out, especially since I'd fallen so hard for So Tough the year before, but this version is an entirely worthy successor. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2526 Registered: 03-2005 |
My copy of the Kissing the Pink reissue arrived today. It consists of the album "Naked" and an EP. I haven't heard "Naked" in probably 25 years. It sure sounds great on the opener, "The Last Film." | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2116 Registered: 10-2004 |
I like Kissing the Pink, but they were kind of a strange band. Very eclectic, and they had like 19 different vocalists. Naked and that US EP are both largely really good, but then after that they switched gears and started making bland top 40 drivel which I don't think reached the top 40. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2532 Registered: 03-2005 |
I never heard any of the later stuff Jeff. But I think they profit from the multiple singers. It's a good album. It was fun to hear all these things I hadn't heard in so long. I found myself often thinking of Sudden Sway who, of course, I hadn't heard back then. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 978 Registered: 10-2008 |
I bought Revolutionary Spirit by Sudden Sway on 12" the day it came out, one of the great songs of the Liverpool post punk scene. Yet another one that is gathering dust in my mums attic no doubt!! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2119 Registered: 10-2004 |
Kevin - I think you mean Wild Swans. Amazing single, that one. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2533 Registered: 03-2005 |
The Wild Swans get top marks from me. The original group, that is. The reformed Wild Swans weren't bad though. Kevin, Sudden Sway were a theatrical troupe who used synth pop as their medium. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 982 Registered: 10-2008 |
you know jeff, i was swaying(ahem) over that one, even as i was typing it i was thinking something didnt sound right! my memory these days is shot to pieces. the reason i didnt check was because i was still at work, and secondly because i knew randy would like wild swans, but didnt think he would like sudden sway :-) - if that makes sense with hindsight!! i was also going to post about a group called care, who i had bought one fantastic single by in 1983. i didnt post because although i knew that the vocalist from wild swans was in the group, i couldnt remember the name of the song or the vocalist so i thought i would save the post till later. now i'm at home i have found out his name is paul simpson(how did i forget that), the song is called flaming sword and the other member of the group was ian broudie. i had a vague recollection of broudie producing the song, but had forgotten he was in the group. although we didnt know it at the time, this was proto lightning seeds - a much more "pop" direction than paul simpson's previous work. hard to believe all this was nearly 30 yrs ago! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY-6eZk_F xA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdrLarbWE MY | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2120 Registered: 10-2004 |
Yeah, Care were good, and super poppy. Definitely sunnier music, overall, than early/classic Wild Swans, probably due Broudie. Flaming Sword is a great song. Care actually did a number of good songs in a short span of time. Surprisingly, Randy *does* like Sudden Sway, as he was the one who introduced them to me. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2535 Registered: 03-2005 |
I get credit for nothing. Spence turned me on to Sudden Sway by sending a link to an audio file. I do wish more of their recordings were available on CD. Totally aside from their great pop instincts, their philosophical viewpoint seems to clarify every phase of our unfolding history. "Flaming Sword" may be the most persistently catchy song I have ever heard. Once in the head it stays there for days. I sent it round to a bunch of friends a couple years ago and was soundly cursed for jamming their heads up. It's a great song. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3738 Registered: 05-2005 |
Blink - It's Not My Fault. (Great Irish indie band, not the US punk poppers who had to add a number to their name because of these guys). | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1976 Registered: 09-2006 |
Aztec Camera - Knife and the Backwards & Forwards EP | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 834 Registered: 04-2006 |
yes- relayer frank zappa - lumpy gravy the flock - s/t | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 837 Registered: 04-2006 |
guru guru - ufo yes, also the germans did something right... | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1982 Registered: 09-2006 |
Gil Scott-Heron - Real Eyes | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1985 Registered: 09-2006 |
The Beat - Special Beat Service The very definition of just getting up and doing it and doing it. Great fun. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1989 Registered: 09-2006 |
Singles: The Great New York Singles Scene Nervus Rex - s/t | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1013 Registered: 10-2008 |
captain beefheart - shiny beast(bat chain puller) | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1015 Registered: 10-2008 |
one things for sure, i'm not listening to many of these as my revive album of the day. no16 has got to be a typo, or a prank? this is q magazine's readers after all "RADIOHEAD'S OK Computer has been named the greatest album of the past 25 years by music fans. The 1997 release - with tracks such as Paranoid Android and Karma Police - beat NIRVANA and OASIS. The alternative rock band, fronted by THOM YORKE, won three more places in a top 30 picked by Q magazine readers. Both Oasis and U2 had two albums in the top 10. Paul Rees, Q's editor-in-chief, said: "Our readers see OK Computer as the benchmark against which all other albums continue to be judged." TOP 30: 1 OK Computer, Radiohead. 2 Nevermind, Nirvana. 3 (What's The Story) Morning Glory?, Oasis. 4 Definitely Maybe, Oasis. 5 Whatever People Say I Am, Arctic Monkeys. 6 The Joshua Tree, U2. 7 The Stone Roses, The Stone Roses. 8 The Bends, Radiohead. 9 Achtung Baby, U2. 10 Black Holes And Revelations, Muse. 11 Is This It, The Strokes. 12 A Rush Of Blood To The Head, Coldplay. 13 Parklife, Blur. 14 Screamadelica, Primal Scream. 15 White Blood Cells, The White Stripes. 16 In The Aeroplane Over The Sea, Neutral Milk Hotel. 17 Hot Fuss, The Killers. 18 Kid A, Radiohead. 19 Funeral, Arcade Fire. 20 American Idiot, Green Day. 21 The Holy Bible, Manic Street Preachers. 22 Absolution, Muse. 23 In Rainbows, Radiohead. 24 Only By The Night, Kings Of Leon. 25 Demon Days, Gorillaz. 26 Origin Of Symmetry, Muse. 27 Appetite For Destruction, Guns N'Roses. 28 Urban Hymns, The Verve. 29 Automatic For The People, R.E.M. 30 Loveless, My Bloody Valentine." | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 334 Registered: 02-2007 |
This could be an interesting thread Fav Albums of last 25 yrs. Does anyone wanna start a new thread? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1016 Registered: 10-2008 |
david, i find lists like the above are a bit iffy, in that they are normally better classed as "which album by this artist has sold the most". in this case its over the last 25 years, but even if it was actually extended to 30 years "automatic for the people" and "the joshua tree" would still be voted best albums by those two bands, even though in rem's case this is in many ways their worst album and murmer, reckoning and fables pisses all over it - just ask peter buck "off the record". apart from neutral milk hotel, has any of these albums sold less than 2 or 3 million? in some cases the more popular albums here will have sold 9, 10 million. mega sales doesnt neccessarily mean diluted quality, but as the years go by it does seem to be a factor and we have come a long way from the 60's and 70's when big sales and quality were not strangers to each other. and to reinforce my theory that rock music is all but dead, most of the top 10 is 15-20 years old. arctic monkeys are almost a veteran act these days, and i have no clue when the muse album came out. i could google it but i cant be arsed, i would guess at 2004. the rest of the albums do seem to be evenly split between the 2000's and the 90's but the overwhelming feeling is that this is a list of fairly old albums. if we were to compile a list that excluded these albums that might be more fun. almost like an anti queens speech on christmas day :-) i can come up with 10 fairly easily, the criteria being the last 25 years and at least a rating of 9/10 radiohead - kid a wilco - yankee hotel foxtrot daft punk - discovery burial - untrue animal collective - merriweather post pavillion caribou - swim lcd soundsystem - sound of silver primal scream - xtrmtr husker du - warehouse songs and stories flaming lips - the soft bulletin | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3747 Registered: 05-2005 |
Urban Hymns by The Verve is undoubtedly the most overrated album of the last 25 years. Two singles and a whole pile of filler. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2540 Registered: 03-2005 |
"we have come a long way from the 60's and 70's when big sales and quality were not strangers to each other." I have a theory about this. Digital technology has completely broken the death-grip that record companies and radio programmers used to have on music. Because of this, far more people can create music. The more people who create music, the lower the odds that the really great ones will become broadly known, at least anytime soon. Indeed, a lot of the more artistically adventurous people will sidestep the record label/radio programmer track altogether. While I know exactly nothing about hip hop, I do know something about the process of digital home recording and I'll bet that the overwhelming majority of significant hip hop artists are cutting their teeth at home on their own equipment with nothing for the record companies to offer except for some PR and distribution apparatus. I imagine this is scary for people whose livelihoods depend on the old studios and record companies but for music I think it's incredibly good. It's one of the big reasons I never bother to listen to what's new for the year. I'm pretty sure that any given year's best music won't become known for quite a while. The stuff being touted as the year's best is more often the music that was adopted by the dried husk of the old record label/radio programmer machine. Robert Forster has cast doubt on the bedroom artists on a few occasions in his interviews. I wonder if he's since changed his mind. It's understandable for him to have a certain emotional reaction to the elimination of those old barriers. After all, he and Grant had to endure the painfully slow and laborious process imposed by the ancient music apparatus. But--seriously--the greatest music being made today is almost certainly being made in bedrooms. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2541 Registered: 03-2005 |
Btw, Kevin, I think David's calling for a thread of OUR favorite albums of the last 25 years. It might be more idiosyncratic. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 1997 Registered: 09-2006 |
The Byrds - Mr. Tambourine Man An incredibly solid, inspired debut album. The smirkiness of "We'll Meet Again" at the end is slightly offputting, but of course they were only following Stanley Kubrick's lead. | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 336 Registered: 02-2007 |
I'll put my thinking cap on Randy. It has to be OUR favs not the critic's. Give me a few days as I am on hols at moment and away from home and my cd./record collection. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3755 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Waterboys - This Is The Sea | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1017 Registered: 10-2008 |
can - tago mago | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1543 Registered: 08-2006 |
Bonnie Raitt - Luck of the Draw. Pulled this one out after seeing Bonnie on an old, mid-70s SNL episode the other night. Adult contemporary done expertly. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2000 Registered: 09-2006 |
The Byrds - Dr. Byrds & Mr. Hyde | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3758 Registered: 05-2005 |
Grant McLennan - Horsebreaker Star | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 843 Registered: 04-2006 |
jose gonzalez - in our nature | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 341 Registered: 02-2007 |
I love that album andreas. My son bought it a coupla years ago and I listen to it often. Would love to see gonzalez live. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 844 Registered: 04-2006 |
first of all: a happy new year to all of you fellow travellers out there. david, jose gonzalez music seems to be unspectacular, but there is something in his voice what i like. his guitar skills are good, too. 33 nice minutes (i like short albums and eps. most often it is not so boring than this long, long, long, long albums since the cd has been introduced). and, yes, it stands the test of time. i could recommend his work with his band junip. and to be true: i never went to his concerts, but in march he plays with the gothenborg string theory orchestra in berlin and i will be there (two days after i will go to see the gang of four). | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2052 Registered: 01-2005 |
Andreas, I saw Gang Of Four back in 2005 and was blown away by how great they where. Pick up the new studio album (if it is on sale at the merch booth) and give us a report on the concert! | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 846 Registered: 04-2006 |
michael, gang of four are one of my favourite groups. you were a lucky one in 2005. a gig in berlin was announced , too. after i took notice of this gig i was in pleasant anticipation and very excited. but jon king injured his knee and the gig was cancelled. that was frustrating. the new album will also be released as a limited metal box (500 pieces) with additional stuff as like a sachet with jon king's and andy gill's blood. strange, isn't it? | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 847 Registered: 04-2006 |
btw: wire will release a new album in january, too. and they will be touring... | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2011 Registered: 09-2006 |
Pete Townshend - Who Came First The Who - Ultimate Collection That latter item is an excellent 2-disc walkthrough of their career - except for the smug, clunky, now-totally-irrelevant "Sister Disco" there's nothing that comes close to a bad cut on it. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2019 Registered: 09-2006 |
The Monkees - Headquarters | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2065 Registered: 01-2005 |
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock I guess you can pretty much say that they were a band way ahead of it's time. |