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     Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2025 Registered: 09-2006 |
Ramones - It's Alive Joey Ramone - Don't Worry About Me | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2026 Registered: 09-2006 |
Wire - starting a binge, in honor of the new one. Today, Mach One: Pink Flag, Chairs Missing, 154, Behind the Curtain | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2027 Registered: 09-2006 |
And Here It Is...Again...Wire Though I also love the sprawl of the On Returning comp, this one is lean and mean while still covering many different sides of their sound. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1045 Registered: 10-2008 |
tender buttons - broadcast Its such a shame that its taken trish keenans death to prompt me into playing this, an album i have negllected for years. this morning it just sounded perfect, and its more stripped back sound gives a different dimension to their sound by the way it highlights trish's unique vocals. i love the way allmusic refer to trish sounding like "a robotic sandie shaw or cilla black" in their review of "the noise made by people". i'm sure randy would have a chuckle about that one ! | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2070 Registered: 01-2005 |
Speaking of which, I'm a little late to the party, but I just ordered The Noise Made By People. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2561 Registered: 03-2005 |
Kevin, one of the tracks that induced me to buy "The Noise Made by People" besides your and Jeff's unalloyed endorsements, was "Come On Let's Go" which really DOES indeed have a very cool better-than-Sandie-Shaw feel to it. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1047 Registered: 10-2008 |
the fall - this nations saving grace. even though i have this on cd and vinyl, the completist in me has forked out for the 3 cd "omnibus edition". interview with m.e.s here http://thequietus.com/articles/05559-thi s-nations-saving-grace-the-fall | ||
| Lewisdhead Member Username: Lewisdhead Post Number: 68 Registered: 01-2007 |
The Stars of Heaven-Speak Slowly and Sacred Heart Hotel. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1049 Registered: 10-2008 |
wire - 154 i was looking at the sleevenotes and noticed this credit hilly kristal - bass voice. who'd have thought it, maybe wire played cbgb's and struck up a friendship? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2563 Registered: 03-2005 |
Thanks for that Quietus link on the Fall, Kevin. Not being a Can fan I never knew about the meaning of "I am Damo Suzuki" let alone that the drums and bass were nicked from Can songs. But then, I was used to not knowing what most of the Fall's songs were about and I never cared. There just always seemed to be another great line right around the corner. I'm amused by the dismissal of "Cerebral Caustic." I agree it's not one of the Fall's more distinctive records. But for me the first genuine turkey came later, with "Levitate." So far, I hadn't given any thought to springing for these crazy huge reissues. I might change my mind on that. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2124 Registered: 10-2004 |
I agree with Randy, Levitate is crap. And I know that Cerebral Caustic can't hold a candle to any of their 80s albums, but I've never thought it was all that bad, either. It has more energy than most of the other 90s albums, and I always felt Brix's brief return kind of revitalized the band a little bit. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1053 Registered: 10-2008 |
broadcast - haha sound | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2072 Registered: 01-2005 |
We are all Damo Suzuki! | ||
| TROU Member Username: Trou Post Number: 268 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Appartment - Drift, expanded edition. Finally... | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2565 Registered: 03-2005 |
Expanded edition!?!!? Off to amazon . . . . | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 290 Registered: 03-2007 |
Randy, it is released on Talitres Records which is a French Label. There may be a new album later this year. www.talitres.com/newsve.htm | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2566 Registered: 03-2005 |
Thanks for that link Hugh. Neither Amazon US nor UK had any information about the program. Two additional songs plus an alternative version. And a new album will be much appreciated if it happens. I know PMW is a pretty esoteric taste but here's hoping the French (or somebody) decide to do something similar with the other Apartments albums. A big remix/remaster of the first album would be terrific. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2568 Registered: 03-2005 |
Field Mice--Snow Ball | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2127 Registered: 10-2004 |
I'd love a remix/remaster of the first Apartments album. The thin production does such disservice to those songs. Redoing those vocals could't hurt, either. ;) | ||
| Hugh Nimmo Member Username: Hugh_nimmo Post Number: 291 Registered: 03-2007 |
Randy/Jeff, I wonder who currently owns the rights to 'The Evening Visits.....' It was originally released on vinyl on Hot Records in Australia and Rough Trade in the U.K. The French Indie label New Rose Records ( now defunct I believe ) released it and 'Drift' on cd in the early 1990s via their subsidiary Lively Art. Hot Records released it on cd in the late 1990s. Happydeadmen - Eleven Pop Songs Originally released on vinyl only in Sweden in 1990. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2570 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hugh, all of my Apartments albums are on Hot. I'd assume that the same person or company has the rights on all of them. "Drift" was the commercial "success" in France so I imagine that's why it's being reissued by the French label. I'd like to think that PMW owns all of the records but I suppose that's wishful thinking. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1057 Registered: 10-2008 |
pj harvey - white chalk | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1058 Registered: 10-2008 |
randy, having just received "this nations saving grace" through the post this morning i can definetly recommend it and would urge you to buy it if you havent already. the packaging is pretty imprsessive, 3 cd's housed in a dvd sized cardboard box, with a sturdy 50 page booklet. i immediately put on the "outtakes" cd, on first hearing this is no throw away bunch of songs - some versions seem to be as good as the originals, in fact some songs are fairly different from the originals and m.e.s vocals a bit clearer. dont know if its history being rewritten ,but the booklet and reviews i have read of this re-release suggest its their masterpiece. i wouldnt go that far, but its possibly their most consistent album from start to finish. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2130 Registered: 10-2004 |
I have yet to buy any of those snazzy Beggars/Omnibus reissues, but I've certainly been curious about them. They look nice. I would unhesitatingly place "This Nation's Saving Grace" in the Fall's top 3. It's highly consistent, the production is full and muscular, and the band was firing on all cylinders. I'd also definitely place "Bend Sinister" in the top 3. As for a third, I'm not sure - possibly a toss-up between "Perverted by Language" and "Wonderful & Frightening World." It'd be nice if any of those get the Omnibus reissue treatment as well. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1059 Registered: 10-2008 |
jeff, wonderful&frightening has already had the 4cd omnibus edition http://www.amazon.com/Wonderful-Frighten ing-World-Fall/dp/samples/B0040X46VW/ref =dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1 bend sinister was due for an omnibus edition, but seems to have disappeared from the release schedules. i read a review of "this nations.." that mentioned bend sinister omnibus was going to be shelved | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 411 Registered: 10-2006 |
In the land of grey and pink - Caravan Sounding marvellously fresh, too. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1062 Registered: 10-2008 |
this guy describes "this nation.." omnibus better than i ever could. mick middles (ex sounds writer) is an acknowledged fall expert. at times quietus is like a fall fanzine! http://thequietus.com/articles/05603-the -fall-this-nation-s-saving-grace-review | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 618 Registered: 04-2005 |
The Delgados - The Great Eastern | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2074 Registered: 01-2005 |
One of my favorite albums from 1993...The Loud Family - Plants and Birds and Rocks and Things. Produced by the one and only Mitch Easter! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1073 Registered: 10-2008 |
culture - baldhead bridge | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2040 Registered: 09-2006 |
Kate Bush - Never For Ever | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1552 Registered: 08-2006 |
Angry Samoans - Back to Samoa | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1553 Registered: 08-2006 |
Hmmm, make that Back "From" Samoa. More coffee, please. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2082 Registered: 01-2005 |
John Prine - The Missing Years. I bought my cd of The Missing Years way back in 1992 after ignoring his previous albums. It's a great place to start if you have yet to buy any John Prine albums. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1085 Registered: 10-2008 |
wire - a bell is a cup... | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2083 Registered: 01-2005 |
>wire - a bell is a cup... My first Wire purchase, middle of 1988. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2043 Registered: 09-2006 |
My first was a used copy of Pink Flag, a couple of years before their Mach II comeback with Snakedrill. Certainly among of the best five bucks I've spent... | ||
| Andreas Severins Member Username: Andreas_severins Post Number: 189 Registered: 11-2007 |
The Bats - Daddy's Highway epic release - heared it yesterday on my way back home from vienna for the first time. love it, almost as good as the outstanding ep's "And Here Is "Music for the Fireside"!" and "By Night" | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1091 Registered: 10-2008 |
elliott smith - from a basement on the hill | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2593 Registered: 03-2005 |
Next on my new stylus inauguration, the Triffids' "Raining Pleasure." Oops, forgot this one is 45 rpm! Actually it's kind of entertaining at the slowed pace. In my home town there's a surprising little vinyl store that has coughed up some of the most unlikely Australian vinyl releases including this and the Ups & Downs. I've passed up "Calenture" there. I realize that's nothing rare to folks in the U.K., but trust me, nobody in Fresno, California was listening to the Triffids in 1987. I got "Raining Pleasure" some years back before the Domino reissues. I never quite knew what to make of it when I originally bought it but tonight it sounds like a terrific bridge between "Treeless Plain" and "In the Pines." I must say, a new cartridge works wonders. This Hot Records pressing sounds fabulous. It must be the 45 rpm that gives it the spectacular dynamic depth. I thought it was a crappy quick-cooled one when I used to play it as the only way to hear these songs. That old stylus was even worse than I thought. Thanks for the Audio Technica recommendation, Jeff! And if I'm not imagining things, this mix of "Jesus Calling Me" is quite a bit different than the one on the CD. In fact, I'm not sure it's even the same take. Damn! | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 723 Registered: 05-2005 |
Did you get "Sleepless" Randy? Sublime Australian surf psyche jangle. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2594 Registered: 03-2005 |
Continuing with my vinyl revival, I'm now listening to Ian & Sylvia's final album from 1972, "You Were On My Mind," which has never been reissued on CD. It's not among their best albums but it's far from the bottom of the barrel. It uses the Great Speckled Bird and contains classics "Old Cheyenne" and "The Beginning of the End" and a few of Sylvia's songs are determinedly NOT country-flavored, particularly "Joshua." The divergence of these two persons was clear here. I haven't heard these performances in decades. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1095 Registered: 10-2008 |
toots and the maytals - in the dark randy, whats your take on the maytals? i guess you like the earlier leslie kong produced output? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2597 Registered: 03-2005 |
Kevin, I'm a huge fan of Toots & the Maytals. The first reggae number I ever heard that really riveted me was not "The Israelites" or Johnny Nash's "Hold Me Tight." It was "Pressure Drop." Their mixture of rural-sounding churchy Southern soul and reggae was (and is) a hit of heroin to the mainline for me. There is indeed a string of singles they did for Kong after Toots had finished serving his time for his drug bust that is remarkable. I should dig through Amazon to see if somebody has finally put together a collection from that era which uses the proper tape masters which should be possible because I believe Kong's estate successfully preserved all of Beverley's masters. (I should probably buy the Sanctuary 2-CD set even though so much of it seems redundant for me). The crappy-mastered set I have that pulls together a good sample of that early Kong singles era is called "Do the Reggae 1966-1970." The music is fantastic but everything is mastered from worn-out vinyl. The Kong albums ("Monkey Man," "From the Roots") are a little bit spotty, including too many numbers that sound a bit too similar. They're still worth having though, particularly "Monkey Man." So, personally, I regard the "Funky Kingston" and "In the Dark" albums as the peak LP achievements of Toots & the Maytals. I always figured you'd think "In the Dark" is too pop but I've long regarded it as their absolute finest individual album. I'm still waiting for a good original-master-tapes reissue of that album, but I haven't checked out the most recent reissue so maybe it's finally here. The one I have is from a hissy nth-generation copy tape. The other albums from the 70s are all worth having too, but usually they're each about one-half a good album. On one of them, though, ("Pass the Pipe") Hibbert's voice is so screwed up from smoking that it's unlistenable. Very tragic, that, because it has "Get Up, Stand Up," one of Toots' great songs. And while you probably won't approve of it because of its very smooth almost international arrangement, the ballad title song from "Just Like That" demonstrates Toots' extreme greatness as a soul singer. It's a great song too. Most people regard Marley and the Wailers as the best Jamaican act from the era and I can certainly understand why but for me it's always been the grittier, earthier Toots & the Maytals who hold that honor. I wish Toots still toured and recorded with Jerry McCarthy and Raleigh Gordon. It's NOT the Maytals without them. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2598 Registered: 03-2005 |
The Paragons--s/t I normally disapprove of such exercises but I love this 1981 ten song album of new versions of some of the Paragons' rock steady classics. They're very well played by a band anchored by Sly & Robbie and Mao Chung. All three of the proper original Paragons are present and in excellent voice. They retain the basic bittersweet feel and mood of the original versions without copying them slavishly. For example, just a little bit of dub is introduced at the end of "Man Next Door." It works brilliantly. And, let's face it, it's very nice to hear these songs in a modern recording from Compass Point Studios. This release was made possible by Blondie's fat hit with "The Tide is High." If I'm remembering correctly, the Paragons' version was either a b-side or an album track. For my money it's not anywhere near their best but I'll give it all due obeisance for making this recording happen and--hopefully--for bringing some much-needed royalty income to its three writers. As far as I know this record has never been released on CD. Thanks to my new cartridge, I'm hearing it for the first time in about 25 years. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2599 Registered: 03-2005 |
Continuing my Jamaican vinyl revival . . . . The Pioneers--Pusher Man I've always really liked this group but there is no denying that their move to the U.K. in 1971 or so marked some very aggressive attempts to Brit-up their sound and resulted in some--ahem!--flawed records. With "Pusher Man" (1978) they heeded the call of the roots reggae movement and made unquestionably their best U.K. album. With "Riot in a Notting Hill" they finally found a way to productively engage with their post-Jamaican environment. Like all their albums except for 1969's "Long Shot," this has never been reissued on CD and the only cuts from it that I've seen included on the anthologies are the too-precious "Feelin' High" (complete with loud toking sounds) and the very excellent "Them a Wolf." But the burying of tracks like "Bad to Worse," "Ahuma," "The Ghetto" and the aforementioned "Riot in a Notting Hill" is not a deserved fate. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1096 Registered: 10-2008 |
Randy, glad you're enjoying your vinyl revival. If any genre of music is best suited to vinyl its reggae. I have recently acquired Monkey Man but havent had a chance to play it yet. The reason for this is because I'm on a run of 12 hour nightshifts just now so not much time for anything apart from eating,sleeping or working. Working at night is mindnumbingly boring so it was a treat to read your posts above and its just a pity its radio listening only at work as I would love to stick on Monkey Man or In The Dark just now! I notice you sent me some samples as well, again havent had a chance to play them but will do so over the next few days - thanks. I also received Wonderful and Frightening World of The Fall omnibus through the post on Saturday morning, only had time to stick on some of the "singles" disc earlier so cant wait to hear the sessions disc and the live disc. I reckon this is now my 4th copy of this album having already bought the original vinyl, the original cd, and the expanded cd that included a few singles. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1097 Registered: 10-2008 |
Randy, sorry to rub it in, but this programme is on BBC4 tonight as part of the ongoing Reggae at the BBC/Reggae Britannia series http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ym9n4 And this one will be broadcast next Friday: Toots and the Maytals - Reggae Got Soul Have recorded the initial programmes from Friday night and will watch them in the next few days. Hopefully those, and the ones listed above will be on Youtube soon so you can watch them | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2600 Registered: 03-2005 |
Ah, you just got Wonderful and Frightening World. The live set is pretty good, including a few of their older numbers. Continuing my vinyl revival, tonight it's the turn of Allan Clarke--My Real Name is 'arold Unhappy about the small number of his songs selected for their "Distant Light" album (one of the songs included was "Long Cool Woman"), the Hollies' lead vocalist split from the band. This is his first album, released in 1972. My assumption has always been that a few of the non-cowritten songs included on it were among those passed over for "Distant Light." I believe it's the only Clarke solo album that hasn't been reissued on CD and, following the usual karmic rule of such things, it's BY FAR the best of them. Some lovely person has posted the entire album's songs on youtube. Here's he's doing his Dylanesque thing . . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_f3Ocqlj HQ&feature=related Fortunately, the microline stylus on my turntable gives me vastly cleaner sound than the person who posted these on youtube has managed. Not for the last time I thank Jeff for his cartridge recommendation. This particular slab of vinyl saw a lot of usage from me way back when. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2085 Registered: 01-2005 |
The Flamming Lips - The Soft Bulletin. My favorite Lips album. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2606 Registered: 03-2005 |
More vinyl revival: the Beat Merchants--British Beat Groups 1963/1964 This is my absolute favorite anthology of the U.K. beat group scene. It was released in 1976 as a follow up to "Mersey Beat 62/63." I remember buying it in a small record shop in San Francisco on a whirlwind one-day trip there, probably in '76 or '77. Just like the punk scene from a generation later this period was awash in little local bands who managed to record one or two or a small handful of singles. This 2 LP set is the best survey of this era that I ever came across, identifying the bands with the different towns they came from and pulling from most of the U.K. labels of the era. The best-known will be the Searchers but it's an early live performance. There's also a Wayne Fontana & the Mindbenders number but after that the "big names" are Cliff Bennett & the Rebel Rousers, the Pirates, Dave Berry (in his drunken r & b days with the Cruisers), the Merseybeats and the Mojos. Then it's down to people I know nothing about like The Country Gentlemen, the Others, the Cresters and the Addicts. I always hoped somebody would reissue it on CD but no such luck. I have a very good CD library of U.K. 60s music and yet to this day I still don't have about 40% to 50% of these recordings on CD. The "Mersey Beat" 2 LP set is good too. It has Freddie Starr & the Midnighters' "Peter Gunn Locomotion" which is one of Joe Meek's most sonically brilliant recordings. I have at least 30 full CDs of Joe Meek recordings and yet STILL this track will not be found on any of them. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2607 Registered: 03-2005 |
Vinyl again: now playing one of the old gay club greats (yes, there were a few!): For Those Who Think Young--Rough Trade The plug song was "All Touch" which was a giant hit in their native Canada and even made it into the Top 100 in the States, but this is a pretty decent album right through. Carole Pope was one of the first in-your-face lesbian pop figures. Gotta love her rhyme of "crescendo" with "innuendo" in "The Sacred and the Profane." To her great credit she also collaborated with the underrated Nona Hendryx in the early/mid '80s. You're near Canada, Michael. Remember them? This one has been reissued on CD, but not until 2007. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1109 Registered: 10-2008 |
xtc - nonsuch a friend gifted me this today as he had two copies. not bad on first listen, although 17 songs is a bit much for one sitting - will i ever have the time to play it again i wonder? | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2158 Registered: 10-2004 |
Nonsuch is a good album, albeit a bit slick and pro sounding. The songwriting, for the most part, is really good, despite the slickness. And yeah, it could've lost about 3 songs. Reading the Roxy Music biography "The Thrill of it All," has got me on a Roxy binge this weekend. So it's a marathon of the debut, For Your Pleasure, Stranded, and Country Life. I still think that out of their 70s albums, the debut and Country Life are the best. I love the spacey artiness of the former, and the solid songwriting and occasionally somber mood of the latter. I've always liked Stranded the least. They got really uninteresting very fast when Eno left, but then recovered on Country Life. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2159 Registered: 10-2004 |
Oh, and I'll probably be revisiting Siren in day or two, which I've always liked but not loved. | ||
| Stuart Wilson Member Username: Stuart Post Number: 421 Registered: 10-2006 |
Try Manifesto again too, Jeff - it holds up pretty well, I think. But to appreciate solid song-writing and not love Stranded, I dunno!! Ferry played a blinder here, at the very peak of his powers lyrically, even with miniature gems like Just like you and Serenade... | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2160 Registered: 10-2004 |
Yeah, I've always liked Manifesto, and don't understand why a lot of people seem to slag it. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1113 Registered: 10-2008 |
drive-by truckers - decoration day | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3810 Registered: 05-2005 |
Cold Water Flat - Magnetic North Pole | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1123 Registered: 10-2008 |
john cale - paris 1919 | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1127 Registered: 10-2008 |
johnny thunders and the heartbreakers - lamf | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3815 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Blue Aeroplanes - Swagger | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2101 Registered: 01-2005 |
Public Image - Second Edition. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2615 Registered: 03-2005 |
Rolling Stones--Beggars Banquet I was 12 years old when I got this album as a new release. I play it now maybe once a decade. I wanted to hear "Salt of the Earth" and decided to play the whole thing. Aside from the mindless noodling of Nicky Hopkins (and he's mixed way too far forward!), this album holds up quite well. Richards' solo on "Sympathy for the Devil" has long been one of my favorite moments from him, along with the fade on "Citadel" on the previous album. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2616 Registered: 03-2005 |
Running the ancient Garrard Type A, with a cartridge that obviously hypes the low end. Hence perfect for . . . Best of Horace Andy--a cheapo package of 12 Coxsone productions including the original "Skylarking." | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2617 Registered: 03-2005 |
Continuing on to the 1981 vinyl comp "King Kong," a nice sampler of the work of Leslie Kong which for a long time was the only place I had the great Bruce Ruffin track "Bitterness of Life." | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1559 Registered: 08-2006 |
All this board talk about Wire made me pull out "The A List." I missed a lot of their 80s records, and didn't enjoy this comp much when I first bought it. Sounded super-duper last night, though. Some undeniably poppy underpinnings overlaid with just enough of the classic Wire art-menace to make it interesting. Glad I grabbed it off the shelf. It'll be in rotation in the coming days. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2055 Registered: 09-2006 |
Agreed - that one has aged extremely well, as have Snakedrill, Ideal Copy (most of which are on the comp, of course) and Bell is a Cup... | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2106 Registered: 01-2005 |
My local NPR/college radio station turned me onto Wire during the Summer of 1988 and I bought CD's of Bell and then quickly The Ideal Copy (which included all of Snakedrill and a couple others cuts as well). I rated Bell in my top 3 for 1988 when we were doing the album rating thing a few years back and The Ideal Copy made my list for 1987, so I also think they have held up twenty some years later. I was onto a ton of new wave, punk, paisley underground/neopsychedelia and college bands from the early 80's on, but somehow Wire escaped my attention until 1988 (as did the Go-Betweens until I bought 16LL in November). | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2057 Registered: 09-2006 |
Thing is, art-menace is a big part of them, but not their only shade, as the melodic/quasi-pop side that began emerging as early as "Chairs Missing" shows. While their new one has some nice menace there are also a couple of songs (like the title track) that I would almost call lovely. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1134 Registered: 10-2008 |
new york dolls - too much too soon | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3819 Registered: 05-2005 |
Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1561 Registered: 08-2006 |
The Minutemen - 3-Way Tie for Last | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2061 Registered: 09-2006 |
Magnetic Fields - The Wayward Bus | ||
| Shane Greentree Member Username: Realinspectorshane Post Number: 83 Registered: 03-2007 |
This Mortal Coil - It'll End In Tears | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3827 Registered: 05-2005 |
Pete Yorn - musicforthemorningafter. Nothing he's done ever since has been a patch on this. I saw him live in Austin, Texas almost exactly 10 years ago just before the album came out. What a gig. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1136 Registered: 10-2008 |
saw an article today in quietus about the 25th anniversary of c86 - http://thequietus.com/articles/05828-c86 -and-all-that i remember playing this religiously for weeks when i first got it. not as good as c81 but still great. highlights being the songs by primal scream, the wolfhounds, mccarthy and best of all, the wonderful "therese" by the bodines. i always thought that this song had shades of man o sand to girl o sea. they had obviously heard the go-betweens but werent slavish copyists. on the back of this i'm playing mccarthy's i am a wallet. great tunes, but if only they had a half decent vocalist!! playing | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 257 Registered: 02-2005 |
Jeff Whiteaker: "Oh, and I'll probably be revisiting Siren in day or two, which I've always liked but not loved." Try deleting "She Sells" from the 9-track sequence. It's an annoying side-opener and disrupts the full-album flow on CD or iPod. When I took that song out of the running order it greatly increased the pleasure I took from the album... it flows so much better. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2620 Registered: 03-2005 |
Kevin, I like Malcolm's fey--almost gay--English schoolboy sound. I think it fits the earnestness of McCarthy's lyrics perfectly. Maybe you have to be American to get the appeal of that. Have you heard the final album? For me that's the stand-out. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2112 Registered: 01-2005 |
Pádraig, That Peter Yorn album is a cracker and the only one I have of his. Was he really a one trick pony? I remember reading reviews of subsequent releases and wasn't motivated enough to spring for any of them. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1138 Registered: 10-2008 |
belle and sebastian - tigermilk | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2114 Registered: 01-2005 |
Flying Saucer Attack - "further" | ||
| C Gull Member Username: C_gull Post Number: 168 Registered: 05-2005 |
C86 sigh - does that mean its 25 years since I was painting my student room in Leeds listening to that tape end to end! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1144 Registered: 10-2008 |
primal scream - screamadelica (20th anniversary) crystal clear remaster of one of the best albums ever made. has a bonus disc of the dixie narco ep | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2168 Registered: 10-2004 |
Guy - you're crazy, I actually think "She Sells" is one of the very best tracks on Siren. What I think heavily disrupts the flow of Siren is the dreadfully dull and horrifically bland run of songs from "End of the Line" through "Whirlwind." I always thought Siren's side 2 was much better than Side 1. Removing "She Sells" would make Siren more mediocre and less consistent! | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 259 Registered: 02-2005 |
:o) :o) :o) Well, I guess we hear the album a bit differently. To my ears the chirpy "She Sells" disrupts the narcotic groove that is at the heart of Siren, from Love Is The Drug to Just Another High. If you find 75% of Side One dreadfully dull and horrifically bland (rather than wonderfully intoxicating) what are you hoping to hear with fresh ears after 35 years? | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2170 Registered: 10-2004 |
Oh, I don't know - sometimes just listening to an album I've left alone for years reveals new things, or I'll hear it in a new way and like it more. Things I previously liked may be less interesting, and sometimes things I previously disliked suddenly become more appealing. Neither of these happened with Siren, I'm afraid, but it's never been my favorite Roxy Music anyhow, so I wasn't expecting to suddenly fall in love with it. | ||
| Guy Ewald Member Username: Guy_ewald Post Number: 262 Registered: 02-2005 |
We can certainly agree there; it's never been my favorite either. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1147 Registered: 10-2008 |
drive-by truckers - the dirty south | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2065 Registered: 09-2006 |
The 6ths - Hyacinths & Thistles | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1154 Registered: 10-2008 |
clear spot - captain beefheart | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2626 Registered: 03-2005 |
Even though Side One isn't as strong as the unbelievable Side Two, "Clear Spot" has always been my absolute favorite Beefheart album. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1155 Registered: 10-2008 |
i always think clear spot is just unbelievably strong over both sides. its widely regarded as the most accessible album and that's great, it shows both light and shade when compared against,say, trout mask. songs like too much time and my head is my only house.. are fantastically tuneful, but are as essential as any other beefheart classics imo. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1156 Registered: 10-2008 |
radio birdman - radios appear. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2627 Registered: 03-2005 |
Huh. I would never expect you to listen to "Radios Appear" Kevin. Radio Birdman have kind of fallen out of fashion, maybe because too many crappy bands emulated them--crappily, of course. Great band. Denis Tek was a hell of a guitarist. I still lived in Fresno (nowhere-ville) when that came out. My friends and I played that record until it was grey. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1562 Registered: 08-2006 |
Van Morrison - His Band and the Street Choir | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1157 Registered: 10-2008 |
really randy, why? i assume you mean because they are australian, rather than the style of album it is? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1159 Registered: 10-2008 |
new york dolls - new york dolls. totally gorging out these last few weeks on lots of dolls associated albums. the first two dolls, and the first two johnny thunders albums are great of course, but the debut from david johansen might just be the jewel in the crown. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1161 Registered: 10-2008 |
(im)stranded - the saints now listening to kind of blue by miles davis, to wind down after that whirlwind guitar assault from the saints. | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 349 Registered: 02-2007 |
Played Radios Appear till the record was scratched beyound repair back in the day. I put it in my best OZ albums list a while back. Saw them live late 70's, eraly 80's around Living Eyes album. Great punk/rock energy. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2629 Registered: 03-2005 |
No, I mean the style, Kevin. I'd not have guessed you like something that garage punk-ish. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1162 Registered: 10-2008 |
well for starters i love the stooges randy! | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2069 Registered: 09-2006 |
i - The Magnetic Fields Always thought this one was just OK, but it's really blossoming for me now. And one from one of Merritt's favorite groups: ABBA - Voulez-Vous | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2130 Registered: 01-2005 |
Slowdive - Souvlaki And on the jazzy side of the street: Art Pepper - Meets The Rythm Section (Red Garland on piano, the great Paul Chambers on bass, and Philly Joe Jones on drums). Highly recommended and recently remastered, although my previous edition sounds great. An easy pick as one of the top 100 greatest jazz recordings. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1168 Registered: 10-2008 |
scritti politti - songs to remember | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3851 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Pearlfishers - A Sunflower At Christmas | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2072 Registered: 09-2006 |
Jenny Lewis - Rabbit Fur Coat | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2132 Registered: 01-2005 |
Another circa 1992 era dreampop/shoegazer album: lilys - in the presence of nothing | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2637 Registered: 03-2005 |
Back to vinyl: Magazine--Play What a band! Robin Simon didn't do a bad job here. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1170 Registered: 10-2008 |
bob marley and the wailers - catch a fire. this is the jamaican version of the album, before chris blackwell tarted it up (and ruined it) for the rock audience - whoever they were! | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2073 Registered: 09-2006 |
Rilo Kiley - Initial Friend | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1172 Registered: 10-2008 |
drive by truckers - a blessing and a curse. take out the two "radio friendly" songs by the now departed jason isbell, and add a song each by cooley and hood(and there would have been songs to spare), and we would be looking at a cracking piece of work. but thats songwriting democracy for you! | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1173 Registered: 10-2008 |
scritti politti - white bread black beer. on a bit of a scritti vibe just now. green gartside has been all over the internet and magazines recently promoting the greatest hits comp. surprisingly for me, the glitzy pop era from the mid 80's holds up. the singles from cupid and psyche 85 in particular are sugar coated pop heaven. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2074 Registered: 09-2006 |
Agreed, and the remixes of the singles are pretty stellar too (or maybe that's what you meant). One of my favorite albums ever. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2077 Registered: 09-2006 |
Rilo Kiley - More Adventurous | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1181 Registered: 10-2008 |
drive by truckers - pizza deliverance | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1196 Registered: 10-2008 |
decoration day - drive -by truackers. have been buying up the back catalogue on vinyl. patterson hood reckons this is the best way to listen to the band, and he says that the albums are sequenced with vinyl in mind rather than cd, and the recording technique is also geared to playback on vinyl. so far i have decoration day, the dirty south, brighter than creations dark and go-go boots on vinyl, southern rock opera has been ordered. the attention to detail on these gatefold sleeve vinyls is exemplary, and all pressed on chunky 180g. and they sound amazing. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2641 Registered: 03-2005 |
Prefab Sprout--Swoon on vinyl. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 631 Registered: 04-2005 |
I love 'Swoon' Randy ! I remember hearing it when it was first released and being totally stunned by the "embarrassment of riches" on offer. It seems as if each song has another 20 songs within it; there are melody lines or phrases that a lesser group would have created a whole song around. And yet it doesn't comes across as too knowing or 'clever clever'. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2143 Registered: 01-2005 |
Tanya Donelly - Lovesongs For Underdogs | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2642 Registered: 03-2005 |
Andrew, I have only "Swoon" and "Steve McQueen." The second record has its pop merits but I like "Swoon" a great deal better. It manages to sound wonderfully earnest--McAloon's voice I suppose--and yet astonishingly sophisticated at the same time. "Swoon" seems to sidestep all of the typical pop sounds of its era. It's like a record from its own world. Who were they influenced by, Manhattan Transfer maybe? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3862 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy, at the very least you need to add Jordan: The Comeback to that list. I always preferred Swoon too. Have you heard the second disc that came with the remastered Steve McQueen? It's stunning. Oh, the pathos of a middle-aged man singing words he'd written 20 years earlier. Paddy McAloon's solo album is also superb. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3863 Registered: 05-2005 |
And you also need the glorious, perfect pop of From Langley Park To Memphis. "Hot dog, jumping frog, Al-bu-querque." I always loved how much that line annoyed people! | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 633 Registered: 04-2005 |
> Who were they influenced by, Manhattan Transfer maybe? Did McAloon not say he wanted to write songs that Sinatra would have sung ? As for any 'typical pop sounds' his solo 'I Trawl the Megahertz' is well off that dial. You have to be in the mood. I think that time is right for replacing my scratched + worn vinyl copy of 'Steve McQueen' and I like the idea of hearing that second disc too. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2643 Registered: 03-2005 |
Split Enz--Dizrythmia On vinyl. I bought this decades ago but never gave it very many listens. "Bold As Brass" is terrific. Andrew, I think I remember McAloon saying something about writing for Sinatra. It's more the arrangements that make me think that he or somebody in the group might have been fans of Manhattan Transfer. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2644 Registered: 03-2005 |
Wow, I forgot what a great record this is! I find I'm recognizing every song upon hearing, so obviously I listened to this more than I recall. This completely buries "True Colours." | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2185 Registered: 10-2004 |
I really can't see Randy digging Jordan: the Comeback. The music is largely great, but the production is probably way too slick and glossy. I think he'd like Langley Park even less for basically the same reason. For me, post-Steve McQueen Prefab has not aged particularly well, although I used to like it quite a bit. Has anyone heard that "new" Prefab album released a year or two ago, called Let's Change The World With Music? It was basically an unreleased album of material conceived between Jordan and Andromeda Heights. I've been kind of afraid of that one... | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3866 Registered: 05-2005 |
Listening to it right now Jeff. It's the second least brilliant Prefab Sprout album (after Protest Songs). But there are still some great songs on it. Randy, don't fear the slick productions! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3870 Registered: 05-2005 |
Now listening to Cocksucker Blues by The Rolling Stones. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3871 Registered: 05-2005 |
Now listening to Burn & Rob by Paleface. One of the funniest songs ever. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2144 Registered: 01-2005 |
Flamming Lips - Transmissions From The Satellite Heart | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 2186 Registered: 10-2004 |
Padraig - you think Protest Songs is Prefab's least brilliant album? I actually think it's their third best album, after Swoon and SM. "Dublin," "Tifannys," "Til the Cows Come Home," "Diana," etc.. lots of great songs and a production that's only borderline slick. For me, their least brilliant albums are Andromeda Heights and The Gunman. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1207 Registered: 10-2008 |
wilco - summerteeth. not played this in a while, fantastic orbital - snivilization. a classic, second only to the "brown" album | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2085 Registered: 09-2006 |
Gavin Bryars - Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1571 Registered: 08-2006 |
You know, Allen, I came across that album thanks to a most unlikely source - my father-in-law. We were at my ex's parents' house in Michigan, and my father-in-law had heard it on the Canadian public radio station they get in Detroit. He was mainly a classical guy, so when he put the Bryars record on, it was... unexpected. I'll always associate it with that, because it was so surprising to hear him wax enthusiastic about such a (for him) strange record. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2086 Registered: 09-2006 |
Yeah, that definitely is one of those records that crosses borders...and I've yet to play it for someone and not have them fasten on it. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3882 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kiwi Rock comp from 1996. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2149 Registered: 01-2005 |
Rob, That's the first I heard of it as well, circa 1993. The Canadian public radio station we get in Detroit is CBC Radio 2 89.9 FM out of Windsor, ONT. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1573 Registered: 08-2006 |
Ha! That's right in the timeframe, Michael. I expect you guys heard the same broadcast. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1209 Registered: 10-2008 |
forgive me for going o/t here guys. but the mention of canadian radio got me thinking that you american guys might be able to help me out with a query i have regarding travelling between toronto and new york. allen, rob are you guys from ny, i certainly have the impression that rob at least worked for a while in ny? anyway, we are going to toronto in late july/early august for a few few weeks so for me this is a great chance to factor in a trip to ny for a couple of days. whats the best and cheapest way to travel? i thought the train would be the best way but it looks like it will take approx 12 hours, which i find a bit strange given that the distance is only approx 340 miles. this is roughly the same distance as edinburgh to london which can be done in 6 hours or less. the bus from toronto to ny also seems to take about 12 hours, in the uk the train normally blitzes the bus for journey times so i cant get my head round why the train should apparently take so long. flights might be a bit more expensive i guess, there are 4 of us, 3 adults and 1 child. any advice gratefully received. | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1575 Registered: 08-2006 |
Hey, Kev: I'm not a New York guy - Chicago all the way - but I can tell you North American rail service often comes as an unpleasant shock to those used to European standards. Basically, it's slow and expensive. And it's rarely on time. Don't get me wrong - I love taking the train when I'm abroad, and I'd love to see it upgraded here. But I never even consider it in the states (except for commuting around the Chicago region). I'll let Michael and Allen chime in, but I would say your best bet for speed/value is to fly or, if you're feeling adventurous, rent a car and make the drive. It's certainly a pretty drive if you take the right route and plan to explore along the way. The downside is you have to deal with New York traffic when you arrive, but you might be comfortable with that. Overall, I'd say flying might be your best bet if your goal is just to get to NYC quickly. | ||
| Allen Belz Member Username: Abpositive Post Number: 2087 Registered: 09-2006 |
I'm on the Northwest coast, where I've spent the majority of my life, and have never been to NY. The few train experiences I've had around here have been very pleasant, and not too expensive, but I'd go with Rob - if you don't have that much time it's probably not the way to go. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1210 Registered: 10-2008 |
cheers guys. plane looking favourite, but if anybody else wants to chip in with any info feel free, thanks | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2151 Registered: 01-2005 |
I've never been to NYC, but I've been to Toronto a few times. If your heading to NYC from Toronto, then a plane is your best bet unless you want to rent a car as Rob stated. The Finger Lakes area in central New York state is a nice drive. As Rob mentioned, we are eons behind most countries in rapid rail. Too many of our elected officials are getting contributions from big oil, so they are dead set against rapid rail development. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2650 Registered: 03-2005 |
I wouldn't blame the oil companies, Michael. It's been a couple decades since they've had any reason to discourage alternative transportation. They know they will make loads of money regardless. It's the US public, most of whom have never been somewhere that has decent infrastructure and thus have no idea what they're missing. They cling to their cars oblivious to what boat anchors they can be in certain contexts. Another thing that might give you a little shock, Kevin, is the seriousness with which the US and Canada regard their borders. No Schengen agreement here. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3885 Registered: 05-2005 |
Never been to Toronto, but have twice spent time in NY (1989 and 2000). It's a wonderful city, though the contrast between my first and second visits was enormous. If you have time to visit record shops go to St Mark's Place in Manhattan. I fear some of the record shops there are now gone, but some surely remain. Also, Coney Island in Brooklyn is fantastic day trip. It takes about an hour on the D train from the Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. Go all the way to the last stop, Stillwell Avenue. Have lunch at Nathan's (across from the train station) and make sure you ride the Coney Island Cyclone roller coaster (and think of the Mercury Rev song while doing so!). | ||
| Rob Brookman Member Username: Rob_b Post Number: 1578 Registered: 08-2006 |
Both cities are great, especially if you enjoy good food at both ends of the price range. Whenever I'm in New York, I make it a point to go out for traditional Japanese ramen at least twice. As great a food town as Chicago is, good ramen's not easy to find here. I second Padraig's rec of Coney Island. It's a little step back in time. Of course, just wandering through Central Park is pretty wonderful, too. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1212 Registered: 10-2008 |
thanks guys much appreciated. although, given that i'm in the company of 3 opinionated (but wonderful women!!) of varying ages and interests i imagine i'll have little say regarding matters of where we visit in our limited time in ny :-) i'm just amazed that i've managed to talk my wife into going to ny at all, she has always resisted my regular suggestions of holidays in the usa over the years, so small victories eh?? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3887 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kevin, I think that train takes so long because it probably goes through Boston first. And it refuels with coal there. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 1216 Registered: 10-2008 |
must say i'm amazed that a country like usa doesnt have a better rail infrastructure. i would prefer to take a train and see the many wonderful sights (i'm sure :-)) on the way, not gonna see much out of a plane window! however, i think this is a decision for the wife, she's much more practical than me!! | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 2152 Registered: 01-2005 |
Or maybe Pinkerton agents on board are still on the lookout for train robbers on horseback? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 3889 Registered: 05-2005 |
I got the train from Boston to New York in 2000 Kevin. It goes through some very lovely parts of New England on the way. Still though, a plane is a much better idea when your time is limited. |