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Chris McKenna
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Username: Maccattack

Post Number: 11
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 01:27 am:   

Triple J are asking punters to vote on the Top 100 Australian albums of all time.


http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100 /alltime/11/industry/

Get on and vote for The GB's

Good to see 'The Industry professionals' voting for the band.
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Geoff Holmes
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Username: Geoff

Post Number: 747
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 10:11 am:   

Done! Going to be hard for most of you people here to vote though since it requires an Australian state and the "prize" is going to every sponsered Triple J concert in Auz! I guess you can fake it... I just hope they try and call up John Lennon (tee hee)!
Born Sandy is getting a lot of votes and positive comments. All the "quality" bands are plumbing Starfish, Born Sandy, Liberty Belle.
The Avalanches are getting everything though...I guess I will have to TRY and sit through it YET AGAIN to find out what all the fuss is about.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 1286
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 11:06 am:   

a quick glance shows the bad seeds have far and away the highest number of albums in the list with 8 albums. this will be their downfall, too many quality albums and seems to back up what i said on another thread that their fans can never agree on what is their best album and thus the votes get spread far and wide- the sign of a truly great band imo. interesting yet again to see murder ballads get lots of love, the highest rated bad seeds album in the list.

i'd vote for before hollywood if i was eligible, or calling from a country phone - toss of a coin job!
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 1287
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 04:01 pm:   

came across a wiki page for a book called 100 best australian albums which was published last year - gave me a laugh if nothing else on this wet summers day!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Best_Au stralian_Albums
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Pádraig Collins
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Username: Pádraig_collins

Post Number: 3949
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 10:53 pm:   

Just voted for 16 Lover's Lane.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 2197
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 03:13 pm:   

Just voted for Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 1289
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 03:26 pm:   

just voted for calling from a country phone, didnt think i'd be eligible but i was!

had to add the album because none of roberts solo albums were shortlisted. got to be some mistake surely?
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Simon Withers
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Username: Sfwithers

Post Number: 179
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 - 01:40 pm:   

Voted for 16 Lovers Lane - my email address doesn't identify me as a Brit, and I used my old Sydney address...
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fsh
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Username: Fsh

Post Number: 248
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 - 07:35 pm:   

Polls, polls, polls ...
I don't see establishing an order of merit as relevant to music or come to think of it - any art ...
It ok by me for stuff like soccer, horse racing, grand prix and the like.
Maybe I just wasn't competitive enough at school or something ...
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 2675
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 02:22 am:   

Wow, that 100 best list is really something. I'm definitely OK with including the first Masters Apprentices album. It's a nice choice. Since when does a "Best of" ever qualify for inclusion on a list of best albums? The Easybeats would easily qualify with either "Volume 3" or "Good Friday" and probably "Vigil." They're just out of fashion now--not "cool"--but their records unequivocally flatten everybody else's from that era. The Bee Gees probably should have been rated with their best Aussie album "Monday's Rain" from 1966.

Both the Triffids and the Go-Bees easily rate more than one entry. "Treeless Plain" and "In the Pines" should probably be there and obviously "Before Hollywood" and "Liberty Belle" should be there.

Hoodoo Gurus? They're OK college rock but they certainly don't rate several entries.

How do Split Enz get on there at all?

No actual Kev Carmody album, as opposed to the tribute album? My choice would be "Eulogy for a Black (Person)."

No Apartments? No Cannanes? (I'd choose "Communicating at an Unknown Rate" or "Arty Barbecue.") No Panics?

For a country with such a small population, Oz has cranked out a lot of good music. This list does quite a job of missing or mis-rating it.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 3950
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 08:10 am:   

You can add in albums not already voted for Randy.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 3951
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 08:14 am:   

Sorry Randy. Just realised you are talking about the 100 Best Australian Albums list, rather than the new poll.
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Stuart Wilson
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Username: Stuart

Post Number: 451
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   

Polls and lists are quite fun, they make you think about why you like something, what you like about it, how they relate to other things you like. They might help sales, too, if publicised. If a record you've never heard of comes top in a poll, you might decide to give it a try. Anyway, as far as I can see, you can vote from anywhere in the world on this one, mine got accepted at least.
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Michael Bachman
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Username: Michael_bachman

Post Number: 2200
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2011 - 01:15 pm:   

I would agree with Randy siding his comment regarding Oz cranking out a lot of great music despite the small population.

Oz verses Canada music thread? Canada has some 34 million folks currently and Australia has 22 million.
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Geoff Holmes
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Username: Geoff

Post Number: 748
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 02:29 am:   

Randy,
Dare I say, the 100 list probably DOES represent Australian taste at the moment. As fsh intimated though, doesn't mean I have to agree with it though. Just as I don't like things about the "Australian" psyche, doesn't mean I have to agree with "them" about something as personal as music. There are obviously things that will be common background flavours that mean something more here and don't "mean" anything to non Australians. e.g. Crowded House.
It's the same for a lot of Brit music. There are always bands that have been hyped/big in Britain but translate to Australian tastes as weak, overindulgent or obviously trying to get in the limelight one way or another.
American tastes ditto.
Australian music always had the U.K. in one ear and the U.S. in the other so to speak so we pick and choose.
People who write into a Go Betweens board are NEVER going to agree with a top 100 because of what the Go Betweens represent - something slightly outside the mainstream and more pretensiously intellectual. I'm o.k. with that.
I will always argue against Barnsey, Farnsey and the rest and remain gobsmacked that they are lumped in with the Crowdies by mainstream tastes. By the way, I am always gobsmacked by iTunes and Amazons "you may like these/ what other buyers have bought" lists lumping The Beatles in with Led Zeppelin. Makes no sense to me. I'll go. I'm raving. Too many school reports written and to write and this is "study avoidance" at it's best!
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 2676
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 04:19 pm:   

That makes sense, Geoff, just as it makes sense for those of us outside of Oz to be most interested in the bands and artists who seem most peculiarly Australian. We already have British and American artists. But it's clear that the bozos who put together the 100 list had no knowledge of the 60s because the Easys were Oz' top class--world class as it turned out--band. And they made a few very solid albums, plus a bewildering number of magnificent odds and ends which of course wouldn't be eligible for the list.

I have no difficulty understanding iTunes directing people who bought the Beatles toward Led Zeppelin. I think you'd find a LOT of mainstream record buyers who happily went for both, especially once Jimmy Page started using acoustic and 12 string guitars.

Good luck with your reports.

Michael, I personally don't have the knowledge to pick out Canuck artists. So many of them headed down here to build their careers. That points up one of the great things about Oz: its geographical isolation forced independence.
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Andrew Kerr
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Username: Andrew_k

Post Number: 645
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 11:01 am:   

I'm with fsh on this one. Fed up with lists. How can you rate art ? Bloomin' Mojo magazine and it's top 100 lists of lists. It's a male train spotter thing ?

And if you want a country with a small population that has an enormous influence look at Scotland ! In the 70s, I remember an article in 'Newseek' that tried to establish the 100 most influential people ever (aaaghhh, another list) and it had a special mention for Scotland and it's importance in producing engineers, philosophers, artists etc.

And this was well before Jim Kerr of Simple Minds.
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 2205
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 03:35 pm:   

Randy, Right you are. Most of the big Canadian acts did move to California or other parts of the US.

Wikipedia has a nice overview of Canadian rock. I would add to that article the folky acts like Joni Mitchell, Kate & Anna McGarrigle and Leonard Cohen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_ro ck
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Geoff Holmes
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Username: Geoff

Post Number: 750
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 09:41 am:   

A distant cousin Andrew????
You surely are not alluding to your own brilliance? Can't be done on a Go Betweens site. Poor form.
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 646
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 09:42 pm:   

That's libellous talk that Geoff ! Anyway I'm not even (properly) Scottish.
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Ian Darby
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Username: Jan

Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 03:05 am:   

Hi Andrew. I voted - and added the Apartments to mine - even though I put Liberty Belle #1. I also stuck Machine Translations 7 in my 10 best. I forgot to check and see if Grant's solo albums were listed?
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Shane Greentree
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Username: Realinspectorshane

Post Number: 93
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 11:00 am:   

I shouldn't be surprised , but the public-voted list is pretty terrible. The only GBs album came in at 84, and there's nothing by the Triffids or the Church, just for starters. Oh, and they picked the wrong Augie March album. http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100 /alltime/11/countdown/cd_81-90.htm

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