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     kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 535 Registered: 05-2005 |
Smiths Radiohead, Rolling Stones Joy Division The Fall, Gang of Four Josef K ** Orange Juice** Slits Pil New Order The Clash Sex Pistols Buzzcocks Magazine Cabartet Voltaire or your own choice ** - special votes for Spence  I would go for The Fall, for they are surely the best band of all time bar none -borders,time zones or whatever. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 84 Registered: 04-2006 |
yes, kevin, it seems that the fall are the best band in the world to me, too. there is something special with mark e.smith. if i look deep inside my heart there is no other conclusion. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 464 Registered: 03-2005 |
Mark E. Smith is a raving asshole and we love him. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 132 Registered: 01-2005 |
Wire should be on the list. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 509 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kev just back from hols and you made me day!! Yeah I'd ditto Kev's in the main. Fave additions: The Associates as Michael says Wire Steel Pulse John Martyn Nick Drake A Certain Ratio The Jam | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 387 Registered: 04-2005 |
Um, maybe I'm an old fart, but the Beatles? Would any of the acts mentioned previously even have happened without them breaking new ground in popular music first? And from that era, add the Who and Kinks too, while we're at it (ignore their dire post-early '70s work). Move forward a few years, and it's hard not to add Roxy Music and Mott the Hoople to the all-time UK greatest list. And later on, the Only Ones, the Auteurs, and Pulp. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 406 Registered: 05-2005 |
Was that Paul McCartney's pre-Wings band? I heard they were pretty good. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 541 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kurt, the Beatles should have been on the list. The reason I forgot to put them there is that I honestly have never liked them. I really cant put my finger on it, but I just cant be arsed with them. I never bought a Beatles record in my life, although I did buy Band on The Run. A friend who loves all the classic 60s bands even burned me a copy of Revolver a few years back thinking I would love it. Think I played about half of it and gave up, theres no chance of me ever liking them, I just have to accept it. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 466 Registered: 03-2005 |
It's probably permanent total overdose, Kevin. I appreciate their best work but I haven't even bothered to load them on my iPod. Pitch out that copy of "Band on the Run" if you still have it. Buy a good Bay City Rollers or Sweet antho instead. And, no, I wouldn't put either of them on the list here. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 158 Registered: 05-2005 |
You guys KNOW them's fighting words by not including and then agreeing that the Beatles are not on ones list of best U.K. bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hazard a guess that without the Beatles there would be NO U.K. music scene, period, that we talk about as a world wide phenomenon. ALL of the bands mentioned would not even EXIST without the groundwork laid by the Beatles. You can STILL trace the lineage of NUMEROUS rock genres back to them, all of which all the other bands have followed OR REACTED AGAINST that have been mentioned. Kevin, listen to Sgt Pepper or Magical Mystery Tour with a big dooby and I dare you to say that you didn't enjoy them!!!!!!! It's great, big, friendly, celebratory, enveloping, happy music. Even the greatest grouch has a happy child inside them somewhere, so find the inner child and LISTEN MAN!!!!!!!!!! I know it's cool to dis the Beatles but it's like saying that we won't die!!!!!!!!! COME ON!!!!! And Randy, even their weaker stuff is MILES better than anything else!!!!!!!!!!! Rubber Soul went first onto my mp3 player!!! I'm an Atheist but this is musical sacrilige!!!!! Another rant... hard day at the office I guess!!! My favourites would be: Beatles Kinks Traffic Jam Smiths Ride Echo and the Bunnymen Rolling Stones (60's) | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 160 Registered: 05-2005 |
....and Cocteau Twins | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 161 Registered: 05-2005 |
...can I also mention that most of the best music comes from the U.K. rather than the U.S.A. Australian stuff is my parochial self indulgence that usually follows hard on the heels of the best U.K. stuff anyway!!!! | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 513 Registered: 05-2005 |
beatles goes without saying surely, its a one horse race, and yes i loved the stones and many people i know who were there at the time siad the stones were better all round, but masters of invention. a guy bob bowmen who plays pedal steel for the winnebago orchestra supported the beatles in the midlands twice, he said they were very fine fellows, but he couldn't get his head around why the hoards of screaming teenagers went after the beatles rather than his lot!!!! | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 514 Registered: 05-2005 |
beatles goes without saying surely, its a one horse race, and yes i loved the stones and many people i know who were there at the time siad the stones were better all round, but masters of invention. a guy bob bowmen who plays pedal steel for the winnebago orchestra supported the beatles in the midlands twice, he said they were very fine fellows, but he couldn't get his head around why the hoards of screaming teenagers went after the beatles rather than his lot!!!! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 543 Registered: 05-2005 |
In football terms the Beatles would be Beckham, the Stones would be Maradona. Geoff, no amount of stimulants would make me listen to (and enjoy) that crap, sorry! | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 162 Registered: 05-2005 |
Wot?? Football????? | ||
| TROU Member Username: Trou Post Number: 38 Registered: 05-2005 |
Me I compare the Beatles with the Beach boys, not the ugly Stones, just good enoug to throw rolls royce in swimming pools.. Macca is a genius, engaged, still alive and fresh ! I've compiled the White Album recently, you leave 4-5 songs and you've got an absolute masterpiece. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 468 Registered: 03-2005 |
Kevin, I suddenly wish I knew football (soccer here in the U.S.). I don't know who Maradona is. When I was wet behind the ears in the 60s, I was totally a Rolling Stones partisan. Until the end of the 60s anyway, after which they became spotty at best and frequently totally unbearable. Geoff, I love your passion. I probably wasn't clear. I didn't say the Rutles don't belong on the list. They clearly do. I said that I've heard them so many times that I will very possibly never need to hear them again no matter how long I live. Sadly, that's true for all my old favorite Stones records too. At this point I'd rather listen to "Easybeats 3" or "Good Friday." It's Bay City Rollers and Sweet that I said I would not put on the list. I just suggested them to Kevin as better examples of 70s trash rock than "Band on the Run." I do confess I can't agree about Sgt. Pepper. Its best track "A Day in the Life" is a killer but much of the album is dated crap, pure pastiche. Junk. "Magical Mystery Tour" (the U.S. version) is better because it strings together a bunch of singles. The white album should have been pared down to a single LP in length. There are a lot more than 4 or 5 tracks to delete. Macca started honing his skills at forging unalloyed crap well before the demise of his original band. Try listening to "Here, There and Everywhere." Really. I dare you. Try it. The song is unredeemable. Fortunately he still wrote a lot of decent things in those years. Stripping away the stupid arrangement to the original, Duffy Power demonstrated "Fixing a Hole" to be a very fine song. But those awful Wings records . . . . What a depressing waste of Denny Laine. Hey, this is a FUN thread! | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 133 Registered: 01-2005 |
I agree with Randy about Sgt. Pepper. Interesting tidbit, the Beatles were recording Sgt. Pepper at Abbey Road the same time that Pink Floyd were recording Piper At The Gates of Dawn down the hall. Give me Piper any day of the week over Pepper. | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 544 Registered: 05-2005 |
Blockbuster and Wigwambam were fantastic, The Bay City Rollers were shit. Another piece of Grangemouth trivia. Eric Faulkner is from my home town of Grangemouth, dont know if this makes him or The Cocteaus Grangemouths most famous sons? We used to play football(soccer ) just a few yards from where Erics parents stayed, never met or saw him though, think he was a few years older. Back to the Beatles. I've noticed more and more that people are coming round to Randy's view that Sgt Pepper is vastly overrated. Maybe because they are using their own ears and not being brainwashed into being told this is a masterpiece. Then again I'm not the best person to judge, I have never heard it as an album, no doubt I have heard various tracks from it over the years but I dont even know what tracks are on it. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 515 Registered: 05-2005 |
Sgt Pepper is overrated in exactly the same way as Pet Sounds is overrated in my opinion. Pet Sounds is no match for Sunflower or Surfs Up, they were far superior in their originality and craft, Sgt Pepper is no match for Rubber Soul, you got everything with RS, and a fu@*in submarine with SP!. "Theologians, they don't know nothing!!" | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 96 Registered: 04-2006 |
o.k., then let's go. i don't like the beatles, too. that does not mean that they didn't made good music. they did a lot. and if i sometimes hear one or another track on the radio i always sing along, but overall their music never really touched my soul and my heart as much as other music did and still do. and you surely guessed that sgt. pepper isn't one of my faves. similar to kevin i never bought a beatles album until the end of the nineties. than i bought all (vinyl) and my thoughts were that i have a huge record collection and my son should also listen to the beatles when he somewhere along the road looks through my records. a little bit weird, but that was the reason. naturally i gave the records a listening. and i was still unsatisfied by listening to their music. no feelings evolved. my heart is everywhere, but not with the beatles. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 98 Registered: 04-2006 |
another 'battle'field: sweet or slade? i was a slade fan, at that time. and i still can listen with joy and fun to their music. the sweet were just second quality, but a good one. yes, sentimental rememberings of first loves (should not forget suzie quatro). i should stop. | ||
| Danny Lloyd Member Username: Dannill Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 |
Among many, I have narrowed my choices down to three - for sustained quality & relevance, huge bodies of work, brilliant lyrics and great live performances (of which I've been fortunate enough to have seen all three): Morrissey (#1) John Cale Billy Bragg | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 163 Registered: 05-2005 |
I love setting the fire to the kindling and seeing it burn!!!!!!! I had a guess Kevin hadn't heard Pepper but thought he would be familiar enough with enough of the "biggies" to be sucked into the void by the "sleepers" like Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite. Come on, HOW can you NOT LOVE that song??? Talk about invention!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TROU, I did what you suggested last year. It was hard after the obvious deletion of Revolution 9 for me! And may I say my faves are Rubber Soul and The White album before I get accused of being a Pepper head! By the way, I REALLY loved those early Sweet singles and it was about my second or third album I bought...when I was about 9. Suzie Q's "Quatro" was also purchased at around the same time Andreas!!! Interesting point Randy. I feel, too, that HT&E is not one of their best, and yet I have a copy of "Total Guitar"'s Beatles songwriting special (september 1999)that names it as the best representative of the Beatles songwriting "tricks". It also talks about Aeolian cadences and the the usual Yngwe Malmsteen CRAP too!! No hard feelings to anyone guys - we all love the Go Bee's so we all have are hearts in the right place! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 548 Registered: 05-2005 |
I love setting the fire to the kindling and seeing it burn!!!!!!! I had a guess Kevin hadn't heard Pepper but thought he would be familiar enough with enough of the "biggies" to be sucked into the void by the "sleepers" like Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite. Come on, HOW can you NOT LOVE that song??? Talk about invention!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well i Love chucking a big bucket of water over that fire Geoff - The Beatles are shampoo.!! I am still oblivious as to what the "biggies" are because I have such a total lack of interest in this band that I cannot even be bothered to go on to Amazon and check the tracklisting for this pompous, drugfuelled tosh (in my imagination, obviously!) As for Benefit of Mr Kite I have absolutely no idea whether I have heard it, but if I have I can assure that it would be easy for me not to love it simply because this thread has made me realise I detest this band more than I actually realised. I'm glad you love The Beatles Geoff, its a great feeling when you love a band as much as you clearly do with them - I just dont "get" it, didnt when I was 13 and getting into T Rex, Bowie, Queen (shit, this thread has forced me to admit that) and Lou Reed, so I dont hold out much hope now. Punk was but 3 years away thank the Lord. | ||
| XY765 Member Username: Judge Post Number: 68 Registered: 01-2006 |
This is nearly impossible to choose but good fun all the same. I would have to go for the Beatles, picking Revolver and Rubber Soul as my favourites. Kevin, "pompous, drugfuelled tosh"...that sounds like a good desciption of Screamadelica to me!! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 549 Registered: 05-2005 |
pompous - never drugfuelled - certainly tosh - get real, thats their new album you are thinking of XY765 | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 519 Registered: 05-2005 |
Thomas the TANK ENGINE! | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 338 Registered: 08-2004 |
Is the sun affecting you, Spence. The Beatles as forebears of popular music are the ones to thank/blame for everything. Their records for all the plaudits rarely excite. Revolver is shite. The White Album double shite. As for best UK act. Babybird Babybird Babybird ... and Pulp. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 523 Registered: 05-2005 |
you're gorgeous! | ||
| kevin Member Username: Kevin Post Number: 551 Registered: 05-2005 |
This is a serious question, honest. Was Yellow Submarine one of those 60s songs whose lyrics were really about drugs but were cleverly disguised, a bit like Lucy in The Sky, or 8 Miles High? Or was it really just throwaway juvenile garbage with a crap nursery rhyme tune? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 415 Registered: 05-2005 |
It was really just throwaway juvenile garbage with a crap nursery rhyme tune. I like it though. | ||
| kuba a Member Username: Kuba Post Number: 48 Registered: 05-2005 |
The Beatles obviously, followed by XTC. | ||
| Little Keith Member Username: Manosludge Post Number: 499 Registered: 03-2006 |
In order: 1) The Beatles 2) The Kinks 3) The Stones 4) The Who 5) Elvis fucking Costello 6) Richard Thompson 7) Squeeze 8) Nick Lowe 9) David Bowie 10) Nick Drake |