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william rodgers
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Username: Willyorkpa

Post Number: 31
Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 10:18 pm:   

I still feel this is his greatest offering.
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Andrew Kerr
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Username: Andrew_k

Post Number: 97
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 11:10 am:   

Thank goodness for such diversity of opinion on this forum, cause I regard it as one of his worst!
Bryan Adams anyone?
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Michael Leach
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Username: Mike_l

Post Number: 21
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 01:34 pm:   

The other day I found one of Grant's songs online called "if I should fall behind", which is just beautiful. Anyone know where its from?
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Matthias Treml
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Username: Matthias

Post Number: 99
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 05:49 pm:   

It's a cover of Bruce Springsteen. Good version. It's a great song in general.
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jerry hann
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Username: Jerry_h

Post Number: 172
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   

I've got it on an Uncut Magazine cover CD (in 2003)which ran a cd of Springsteen covers, the CD also had a Badly Drawn Boy cover of Thunder Road which was good,the rest as I remember were not up to much.I don't think I still have it but uploaded the Grant one onto the computer.On Itunes it actually is credited to Grand McLennan.
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 529
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 10:13 am:   

Horsebreaker Star in my mind is absolutely wonderful. I still play it and everytime I do it sounds new. I keep thinking about the line "Read about your death in the paper" about how poignent that now is. I think its catchy in a typical Grant lyrics way, and I love the Americana feel, before Alt country I must add, but not before Uncle Tupelo. The quality of the whole 2 CD's is really up there with the best of em. I'd definately recommend it to everyone. That album and Robert's Danger in the past are truly great.
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Randy Adams
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Username: Randy_adams

Post Number: 472
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 03:34 pm:   

I agree Spence. I consider "Horsebreaker Star" to be Grant's personal high-water mark. But we all have different responses. If I remember right, Jeff Whiteaker is no fan of HS. "Fingers" comes from "Fireboy." I'm not personally a big fan of it. The broken heart song on that album which really clenches it for me is "Dark Side of Town;" I overlook the bad "l.o.v.e" line.
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Andrew Kerr
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Username: Andrew_k

Post Number: 101
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 08:17 pm:   

A song of Grant's that I have rediscovered recently is 'The Man Who Died In Rapture' (b side of 'When Word Gets Around' I think). Deserves to be better known I feel: simply stunning.

Too much 'rocking out' on 'Horsebreaker Star' for me I'm afraid. Would have made a great single CD.
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 567
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 08:59 pm:   

Andrew, that's what I liked about Star was the rock out, but then you had a turn of corner into wee fiddle driven ditties. As a whole the songs are driven, they have that striped sunlight sound! Wheras Forsters solos didnt until the second onwards, if ever. Dont get me wrong i love roberts solos, apart from the last one.
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Andrew Kerr
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Username: Andrew_k

Post Number: 102
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 01:31 pm:   

Have to disagree Spence...the 'rocking out' ones strike me as going completely against the qualities of Grant's songwriting and singing that I like. HS just doesn't sound coherent as an album to me. And I certainly seem to be in a minority of people that adore 'Warm Nights'!
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Wilson Davey
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Username: Wilson

Post Number: 62
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   

Try editing HS down ruthlessly to a 10 track single CD, we'll all have our faves but it makes a great CD. Go further,if brave enough I would like to pick 5 GM solo songs and 5 RF solo songs each and call it a "missing GB's CD" and even have the temerity to give it a "LL" title.

Sounds like I'm throwing down a challenge ? You betcha !

Go Betweens CD: "Telling tales"

1. Baby Stones
2. All her songs
3. Snake skin lady
4. Do you see the lights ?
5. Danger in the past
6. Stones for you
7. Is this what you call change ?
8. Open Invitation
9. 121
10. Horsebreaker star

Ok, I expect to be shot down for even attempting this !
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Matthias Treml
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Username: Matthias

Post Number: 110
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 07:49 pm:   

Admin, you should move Wilson's last entry to a separate topic.

Wilson, I applaud you for the attempt. Here's some camo pants so you can duck and cover... I'll list mine but now I have to go away and do the research on what I would pick... But you have no Atlanta Lie Low??? I don't know if I can do 1 cd for all their solo output but maybe two CDs with 5 each from each...
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Duncan Hurwood
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Username: Duncan_h

Post Number: 49
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 07:42 am:   

Sadly (surely I'm not alone here) I used to make compilation tapes with each missing Go-Betweens record every time there were two solo albums:

i.e.
1 : Danger in the Past & Watershed
2 : Calling from a Country Phone & Fireboy
3 : I had a New York Girlfriend & Horsebreaker Star
4 : Warm Nights & In Your Bright Ray

You can make four great albums, though number 3 is a bit light on the RF front.
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Matthias Treml
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Username: Matthias

Post Number: 111
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 03:02 pm:   

Duncan, do share your tracklists for each!

Is it sad or is it indeed an authentic emotional need being filled? Am I just justifying it? hehe.
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kevin
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Username: Kevin

Post Number: 629
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 09:57 pm:   

Ok, I'll join up for this. Firstly let me say that I think Roberts solo output is way, way better than Grants, one important reason being that Robert only released songs that he felt were worthy enough to be on Go - Betweens albums, where Grant seemed to fall into that 90s trap of "hey you can get 70 minutes on these new shiney CDs, lets fill the sucker up". So I still have all Roberts albums but sold all Grants, except Watershed which I couldnt get rid of. So, to tie in with Duncans pairings that means Danger in the Past & Watershed. As per Duncans comments about I had a New York Girlfriend & Horsebreaker Star being light on RF content, the same applies in reverse here for me. I toyed with the idea of making this imaginary album all of Danger in the past, with just Havent I Been a Fool from Watershed coming between tracks 4 and 5 of Danger In The Past. But that might be seen as disrespectful, and also a waste of time because it would to all intents and purposes really just be Danger In The Past with a guest song from Grant.

so my tracklisting, with a 7/3 split is

Baby Stones
Havent I been a Fool
The River People
Leave Here Satisfied
Stones For You
Heart Out To Tender
Dear Black Dream
Danger In The Past
Ive Been Looking For Somebody
Black Mule
Justice
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spence
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Username: Spence

Post Number: 579
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 08:11 pm:   

Leave Here Satisfied should of been the pre soundtrack to England FC's wasted World Cup trip.
I suppose the thing about Roberts fantastic and well written album Danger in the past is that it has Mick Harvey at the controls, and Mr Wylder on ze skins, whom we all know and I dare say in the majority applaud. Grant's wonderful Horsebreakler Star however, had loads of unknown musicians, maybe some people can't indentify/relate with this fact. Just a thought.
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Richard Lim
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Username: Re17

Post Number: 25
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   

Is Fingers basically a Dave Dobbyn tune to which Grant did some lyrics?

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