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     spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 673 Registered: 05-2005 |
Does anyone know much about the guitars Robert and Grant played, like what their usual choices were for live/studio, I am not sure they were musos as such but they loved the classics I am sure, but if anyone has any real info re the guys and what they played that'd be cool. Cheers Spence | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 517 Registered: 04-2005 |
There are some older threads about this, I believe, that Robert V. also contributed to. Probably worth searching a bit to find the previous discussions; I don't recall what conclusions people came to. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 678 Registered: 05-2005 |
oh christ!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 388 Registered: 10-2004 |
Robert Forster seemed to use a semi-hollow body Gibson for a while (not sure of the exact model), and Grant was using an Ibanez strat style guitar around the same time. Vickers talked about a nice Fender Mustang bass, which I've seen him using in live footage as well as in photos, and which he sold for something fancy and new (or was at the time), which I believe he was sporting in the Liberty Belle-era videos. Then there is that sweet Gretsch-esque Maton Robert Forster started using around 16LL. That's about all I can remember. | ||
| Donat Member Username: Donat Post Number: 148 Registered: 11-2004 |
I've seen Robert play: Maton Flamingo Epiphone Casino Fender Stratocaster Fender Telecaster Rickenbacker 360 | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 681 Registered: 05-2005 |
mmm... cool, I did see Robet playing a Fender Jaguar. The MAton is such a cool looking guitar! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 389 Registered: 10-2004 |
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Maton. I would give my left arm to own that guitar, except that that would obviously prevent me from being able to play the thing. Yeah, there is that photo of Robert playing a Jaguar in the Bellavista Terrace booklet. Here are some *very* cool live photos I found on some guy's website from '85. http://www.pbase.com/rsub8/gobetweens85 Robert looks like he is playing a Gibson, but I'm unsure of the model. But if you look at the third photo, it's blurry, but it really looks like it says Gibson on the headstock. Seems to be the same guitar that he's playing in the Cattle & Cane vid. Grant's got a strat. In the 2nd photo you can see just enough of his headstock to make out the Fender logo, which means at that point he'd finally gotten rid of that Ibanez strat wannabe and got himself a real strat. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 683 Registered: 05-2005 |
great pics jeff!!! vickers has got a music man? Robert's poss a Gibson ES 330?, it reminds me of the Epiphone Casino. The Bigsbly trem looks cool although the arm has been removed. Grant has a mid 70's Strat? this looks like a pic from 1975 let alone 85, it reminds me of the typical English/Scottish social clubs, like the TV smash Wheel tappers and Shunters from the 60's 70's!! http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/tv/comedy/wheeltap.htm Kev will know em! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 390 Registered: 10-2004 |
Yeah, Robert's Gibson is an ES 330. I did a bit of research (I'm not as familiar with the model names and differences between models with Gibsons), and it seems the ES 330 is a full hollow body (not semi), comes with P90s (single coil pickups), and is reportedly less desirable than the more popular ES 335 (semi-hollow with double-coil humbuckers). The ES 330 does look like the Epiphone Casio. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 687 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yeah Jeff the 335 is the staple for a lot of people isn't it. Epiphone make good guitars I have a Riviera, made in 1994 that has extremely powerful pick ups, actually this pic is exact same colour http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=6&CollectionID=1 I was thinking of applying a Bigsby trem but thought against it as I love the floating trem of The Fender Jag. MyJag got stolen a year before I purchased the Riviera, it was my pride and joy. I wanted Malcolm Ross' jags but he sold them to Luke Haines. I quite like the look of the Japanese Jazzmaster http://cgi.ebay.com/guitargai-66RI-Alder-Fender-JAZZMASTER-Oly-BlockInlays_W0QQi temZ250025522069QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33039QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem actually with the white headstock slightly fatter sound but just as nice, however I play mostly Acoustic these days http://www.mguitar.com/guitars/choosing/guitars.php?p=m&m=DCX1E, and drums more than electric guitar. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 525 Registered: 04-2005 |
Hey, Spence, I will never be rich enough (or a good enough guitarist) to own a Jaguar or Jazzmaster, but can you tell me how they are to play compared to a Strat? Do they feel about the same, or do they feel somehow more "premium"? | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 691 Registered: 05-2005 |
Hi Kurt. Well in my humble opinion... they play well, if you have an old or new one as long as its set up well, which really is the case with most guitars. (I bought a Martin that wasnt set up and had it set up by Eric Clapton's setter upper apparently! and it now plays like the best guitar in the world and sounds like it too.) They are sllightly tempramental in so much as the bridge has rollers that the strings sit on and can slide off if you really hammer chords. The action used to go out easy on my old Jag too. the Jag whilst it has some lovely sounds, can sound vey thin. the Jazzmaster is a bit fatter sound-wise, I suppose The Strat is more versatile, you can drop it from a great heigt and it'll still play, it can be a great soundingthing too, but quite frankly unless the Strat is a black mid 70's, it doesn't have the looks of the JAG! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 391 Registered: 10-2004 |
I kind of prefer the sound of the Jazzmaster myself (over the slightly thinner sound of a Jag). I have an early 60s Jazzmaster that I've had forever. It sounds, looks, and feels fabulous. The contours really fit well with the shape and curves of the human body. My Jazzmaster bridge was replaced with a Vox bridge, and that was honestly the best thing that could've happened to it. The saddles on the original bridge would slide around too much, like you said, Spence. Now I can pound the thing without worry. I don't use the tremolo bar, so that's not an issue, though it still works fine with the Vox bridge. Yeah, Strats are more versatile, but Jazzmasters and Jags look so much cooler! | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 698 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jeff, sounds cool that early 60's jag!!!! I love the floating trem on the Jag, you can get this swooping dive bomb sound and it has great subtlety too, I don't really like any other trem, locking, Bibsby or Strat trems, they really can't match the subtlety. | ||
| Robert Vickers Member Username: Robert_vickers Post Number: 47 Registered: 05-2005 |
Yes I had a Music Man. For probably less than a year. Bought it on Denmark St. It was heavy on stage and the neck was bowed. Made recording Liberty Belle a bit difficult. Someone stole it from a club in Sydney but fortunately we were over insured and I used the money to buy a 70s Fender Jazz back in New York which I still have today. Robert's Gibson got knocked off it's stand by a roadie and the headstock broke. It was fixed but I'm not sure it was ever the same. Years later I happened to be staying with Grant in Sydney when our old sound mixer called for him to say that he was working at a guitar shop and someone had brought in the Music Man. I went and had a look but never had any interest in getting it back. Probably would have had to give the money back. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 187 Registered: 01-2005 |
Spence, did you ever read about the story behind Clapton's famous "Blackie" Strat that he used on the road during the 1970's, and that sold recently for huge bucks that Clapton used for his rehab resort down in the Bahamas? Eric was in Nashville in November of 1970, and he bought 6 brand new Strats from one of those big music stores there for a very resonable price. He gave one to Pete Townsend, one to Steve Winwood, and one to George Harrison. The other three he took apart and assembled Blackie together from the best parts. The most famous Frankenstein guitar of all time! Eric still has "Brownie" the Strat that he used in the studio in September of 1970 to record Layla and othe assorted Love Songs and is featured on the photo on the backside of Layla. | ||
| Kurt Stephan Member Username: Slothbert Post Number: 568 Registered: 04-2005 |
Michael, I don't think Clapton has Brownie anymore, unless it's on loan to him from Paul Allen's Experience Music Project. I had the good fortune to work on a book with Peter Blecha, former curator of the EMP, who described the 1999 auction where the EMP won a heated bidding war, buying Brownie for $497,500. Wow! | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 188 Registered: 01-2005 |
Kurt, you could be right. I thought he bought it back, but I could be wrong for sure. That's big bucks. Some of Jerry Garcia's evil looking guitars sold for mucho money bucks as well. Give me the clean looks of a Strat or Les Paul Gibson anyday of the week. I wonder who has Duane Allman's sunburst Les Paul?I think he had a child or two, maybe they have it? That's got to be worth some serious money as well. Wouldn't that have been an experience to be at the Criteria Studio in Miami when they were recording Layla 36 years ago this September. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 727 Registered: 05-2005 |
Nah, gotta be a geetar with knobs and switches on for me, real character! When I think of a start, tele or les paul i think muso or session musician, then the horrible chourse'd strat sound to follow! YUK! However, i feel Mr Forster looked very good on stage with his Strat on sadly, the last tour. |