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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 755
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 06:20 am:   

From The Go-Betweens website

Jack Frost, the album released in 1990 by Jack Frost (Grant McLennan and Steve Kilbey), has been remastered and rereleased on CD by Karmic Hit www.karmichit.com in Australia. The CD includes three extra tracks over the original release: Persuasion, Bad For You and Jack's Dream. The CD also features new cover artwork by Steve Kilbey.

I was just listening to my cassette copy of it the other day.
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Duncan Hurwood
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 07:14 am:   

I've never got (or heard) either of the Jack Frost albums at the time. Now I think it might be a good time to try them.
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Peter Azzopardi
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Post Number: 156
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 12:47 am:   

I put the first one on just the other day too. A lot of great songs.

The greatest thrill of the Rage McLennan tribute for me was seeing the clip to "Thought That I Was Over You". Grant and Steve Kilbey seemed to be enjoying themselves so much, and the clip looks great (even though I've never been a big fan of that particular song myself).
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Peter Azzopardi
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Post Number: 159
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 04:51 am:   

Just bought the Jack Frost reissue on my lunch break. The letter to Grant from Steve in the booklet is very moving (as was his poem to Grant in Meanjin). Quite a few extra photos too (stills from a video performance it looks like).
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Adam Hogan
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Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, October 27, 2006 - 12:37 am:   

This album provided my introduction to Grant and eventually opened the door to The GoBs. I can remember seeing several solo Steve Kilbey shows in the 90s where Grant would join SK towards the end of the set. I will never forget the look of disgust on my mates face when I asked who Grant was. LOL. Providence, Didn't Know Where I Was and Thought That I Was Over You would usually be performed. SK would always beg for Grant to play Bye Bye Pride too. If you haven't already heard it I highly recommend picking up a copy. The second Jack Frost album, Snow Job, is just as good IMHO.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 420
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, October 27, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   

I'm going to have to give the first Jack Frost a listen. I have an ancient cassette copy which I haven't played in years. I always thought it was decent. I may like it more now.

I've never heard Snob Job. Can anyone describe it? How does it compare to the first album?
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Kurt Stephan
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Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 01:03 am:   

"Snow Job" rocks a lot more than the first Jack Frost album--it has a surprising amount of (comparatively) loud electric guitar for a McLennan project. Also, where the first JF album leaned pretty heavily on drum machines, "Snow Job" has a real (and good) drummer on almost everything. Both albums have some nice harmonizing from SK and GM, but it sounds better to me on on the second album. Actually, Grant sang more on "Snow Job"; Kilbey has admitted he was pretty wasted in those days and didn't do his share of the work. Finally, the lyrics seem a bit more desperate on "Snow Job." I guess in a sense, it is a "strung out" album for both of them; not quite their "Tonight's the Night," but in the ballpark. I think it's great, actually.
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Donat
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 01:06 am:   

Jack Frost (lyrically) are a little cheesy, ie "Coo coo coo - what else can I do?", but such is Kilbey's way of writing. 'Thought That I Was Over You' is a great song, even if it reads like a swipe at GM's ex-girlfriend, Amanda.

In Brisbane music folklore, Peter Milton Walsh answered an ad to a guy who was looking for a singer-songwriter to start a band with. That guy happened to be Steve Kilbey! Imagine the Church with Walsh in it? Perhaps not.

Snow Job is much like their debut album and the FOC album - "for completists only."
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 174
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 05:53 am:   

Donat, that's the first time I've ever heard of that last story of yours. When was Kilbey in Brisbane or PMW in Canberra, because, as far as I know, Steve lived in glorious Dapto (!) and then Canberra before coming to Sydney. He formed the Church in Canberra after being kicked out of another band, according to his blogg. Have you any more details regarding the story? It's a juicy piece!
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Donat
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 10:27 am:   

I was told of this highly strange meeting of minds by an old Brisbane promoter and I couldn't see a match, either. PMW would've moved down to Sydney with Out Of Nowhere in 1980, but I am sure The Church would've been up and running by the time he settled down there.

I'm going to have to ask PMW when he's in Brisbane again.
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spence
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Post Number: 885
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Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 09:47 am:   

Donat I think kilbey's lyrics have always had a touch of cheesiness to them. Having been subjected to many years of Church songs by a fanatic frined of mine I can safely say Kilby will not go down in history for his lyrical prowess, though the music is awesome in places.
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Donat
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Post Number: 204
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Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:34 am:   

Spence, not jumping to his defence, but Kilbey shows that he knows how to write a song and delight for a career that's so long and easy on the ear. He rhymes all the time and I think it's a crime - it gets boring and leaves me snoring. :-)
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spence
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Post Number: 886
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Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   

True. Next morning came as mornings do, I had a shave it was close too- a close shave!
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Randy Adams
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Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 05:48 pm:   

Donat, you are in touch with PMW? Do you think he will ever make another record?

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