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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 446
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 05:25 pm:   

Padraig challenged me to start a new thread on this, so I'll lead it off. A few of these are not available anymore unless you are willing to part with an arm and a leg for a used copy.

1. Opal - Happy Nightmare Baby
2. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
3. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
4. Triffids - In The Pines(Calenture is due Feb.)
5. Bruce Springsteen -Darkness On The Edge of Town
6. Fleetwood Mac - Then Play On (from 1969)
7. Captain Beefheart - Lick My Decals Off Baby
8. Tim Buckly - Starsailor
9. Bangles - All Over The Place
10. Lou Reed - Street Hassle
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 1205
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 06:01 pm:   

A few that come to mind:

1. Go-Betweens - Oceans Apart (sorry, someone had to say it)
2. Gang of Four - Songs of the Free
3. PiL - Metal Box/Second Edition
4. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing & The Modern Dance
5. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (actually, all their pre-Geffen albums)
6. Pixies - Surfer Rosa, Come On Pilgrim, & Doolittle (I don't think these have been remastered yet)
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Wolfgang Steinhardt
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 06:39 pm:   

Eleventh Dream Day - Lived to Hell
Best record vs. worst production EVER
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 966
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 07:22 pm:   

On the subject of the Triffids, I was disappointed that "Born Sandy Devotional" was not completely remixed because that's something it needs.
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spence
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Post Number: 1221
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 08:12 pm:   

The Beatles back catalogue.

High land hard rain - Aztec Camera, with additional trax, ideally from the Postcard singles.

Kurt, i'll second The pixies.
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andreas
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Post Number: 431
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 08:50 pm:   

captain beefheart:trout mask replica, lick my decals off baby, clear spot

the gun club: the las veags story, miami

fun boy three: waiting

colourfield: virgins and philistines

and surely a lot more (but i don't have the time now to think about it)
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joe
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:22 pm:   

(thanks michael....definitely "all over the place"!)

psych furs - mirror moves
the go-go's - talk show
suede - dog man star...the way bernard wanted it to sound perhaps
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spence
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Post Number: 1224
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:25 pm:   

The house of love - babe rainbow, move over steve kilby, leave quietly wilson piper!
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Pat Boland
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:11 pm:   

Good call Spence. While they're at it, Fontana could use a bit of spit and polish too.

Other suggestions;

All four Smiths' albums
All four Feelies' albums
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joe
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:22 pm:   

i agree...all the house of love albums. have they remastered the first one? i know that creation comp just about covers it but it's still not quite the same.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1180
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:27 pm:   

Good call with The Feelies Pat. The only original of theirs I have is the cassette version of the last album. I have the others on CDs copied for me by a family of Feelies fanatics. I would love to be able to buy the originals but I've never even seen them in a shop.
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 1210
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 12:11 am:   

There was a reissue of "Crazy Rhythms" that isn't too old--mid-'90s, maybe? It has a bonus track, a rather desultory cover of "Paint It Black" by late-period Feelies, not the same version of the group that made "Rhythms." But "The Good Earth" definitely needs a reissue, and maybe a bit of a remix. Then again, the somewhat distant sound of the rhythm section may be part of its charm.

And of course, all the Chills albums need new, remastered editions. We've talked about that so much elsewhere that it probably goes without saying in this thread.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 05:20 pm:   

I have the mid 90's reissue of "Crazy Rhythms".

Trivia question:
The Feelies are the band playing on stage at a high school reunion in what film that also featured a G-B's song?
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Kurt Stephan
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Post Number: 1211
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 05:26 pm:   

"Something Wild"! As I recall, we hear them playing a cover of Bowie's "Fame."

What do I win?
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Little Keith
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Post Number: 1507
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 05:30 pm:   

Cool movie. I never really understood the charm of Melanie Griffith, except for that movie. I would totally have committed felonies for her, okay, misdemeanors...
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Wolfgang Steinhardt
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 06:48 pm:   

Info for Pádraig: the first three Blumfeld records will be reissued march 15 with Bonus tracks, outtakes and a video (the video on L'état features "Verstärker").
Yes, I'm in the boat too for the Feelies and the Chills, Lick my decals and Gun Club.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 08:53 pm:   

The first Smiths album. Their other albums sound okay to me, but that first one could use a little tweaking as it never sounded good to start with. Just a little shave off some of the higher frequencies, a bit of a boost in the lower mids, perhaps, would do that album a load of good. Of course then you'd have purists crying out about how *wrong* it is to tamper with the original sound of an album, but the things I'm suggesting could be done subtly and tastefully. And then of course, release it with a bonus disc containing the Troy Tate sessions in their entirety, all housed in a stylish slip case with juicy and informative liner notes. That would be something to drool over.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 1187
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 11:20 pm:   

Thanks Wolfgang.

Jeff, what do you reckon to the Troy Tate sessions version of the album? I love it. Possibly it was you who posted the online link to it here one time? Or maybe it was Kurt. Whoever it was, thanks.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 11:42 pm:   

Padraig, I wasn't the one who posted the link, but I did write a few highly opinionated and verbose posts on the subject.

I like the Tate sessions a lot, but I can't say I like them more than than the Porter version. I love the raw energy and more fleshed-out sound of Tate's production, yet I also love the intricately woven guitar layers in Porter's production. Hearing Tate's for the first time was revelatory.

If they had done a tag-team production with Porter in charge of the guitars and Tate responsible for everything else, then I think you'd have a perfect album. However, you might also have had two producers - with apparently vastly different ways of working - bitterly duking it out on the studio floor.
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spence
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Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 11:39 am:   

I agree with jeff. Boy, i got excited listenin to those Troy songs. Its a shame. If you listen back to the harshnes production on Hand in glove, the seven inch say, its like too harsh, and maybe that's why MOZZER decided to smooth it for the album.

The Troy vesrions sound like a band who have just met and realise they have something special, and Troy captured that something special. The playing is like a real rock band. Rock on!
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Donat
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 12:48 pm:   

The Chills LP, Brave Words.

Someone should pass a hat around to get this done. It really irks me, because the songs are so brilliant and the mix/mastering is just shocking. Perhaps it sounded great through the studio monitors, but...
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frank bascombe
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Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 02:01 pm:   

The Ian and Sylia collection would benefit, certainly my copy is not great(the music is lovely though)
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 04:07 pm:   

Frank, for Ian & Sylvia, you are now expected to buy the very nicely remastered box set.

I think we need to pass a hat around for all things Martin Phillipps so he doesn't have to pinch items from the store to get by.
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frank bascombe
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Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   

Oh thanks for the info, not sure it fits with the new economy drive!!!
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Allen Belz
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Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:50 am:   

While one can apparently buy an import version, it's still something of a crime that the only U.S. version of Sly & the Family Stone's "There's a Riot Goin' On" is the same bare bones, not-even-any-liner-notes edition I bought as one of my first CD purchases back in the early 90s. Murky sound is part of the album's point, but it should be the level of murk Sly intended, without another layer of early-CD-mastering gunge on top of it.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 02:49 pm:   

I've got that one, too, Allen, and you're right, it stinks. I've admitted on this board that I have cotton in the ears when it comes to the finer points of CD sound quality, but with "There's a Riot Goin' On" even I can tell something's very, very wrong. My version even has some bastardized take on the album art, which pisses me off, as well.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 04:50 pm:   

I read in Pitchfork (occassionally they write about good music, just to mix it up a little bit) that all of the Sly stuff is going to re-mastered and re-issued, with bonus tracks, etc. I think they come out in March. Here's hoping they rectify those problems...I have a coupla really swell Sly comps, but I'll probably have to get that. A bona fide classic.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 06:13 pm:   

That's great news about Sly's catalog being remastered--"There's a Riot Goin' On" especially deserves a new life with much better sound, liner notes (c'mon, there's so much to say about that album, one of the most successful "fuck you" moves by a popular artist), and--dare we hope--bonus cuts.

It's amazing that old Sly is still alive, given his alleged and long-running abuse of nasty drugs. Of course, he hasn't produced anything of worth in three decades. Can anyone substantiate the stories I've heard that both Prince and George Clinton have tried to get Sly in the studio to record new stuff, and ended up giving up on him?
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 10:43 pm:   

There's a Dick Cavett Show box set I mention in another thread that I've been watching...Sly appears on one show, just months before "Riot" came out, and the meltdown is already in full swing. He's under the influence of two different substances at the very least, and there's a highly visible internal war going on. He likes Cavett and is trying to be as honest as possible and put across some important ideas, but he's struggling to get the words out. That, plus Cavett's growing unease, keeps flipping him over to paranoia mode (not only personal paranoia but the very real paranoia in the air at that time), which the drugs just exacerbate, and he starts letting out these semi-sarcastic verging on angry remarks. And then he catches himself and tries to steer himself back to friendliness. Uncomfortable but fascinating viewing.

Definitely great news about those Sly remasters, LK...
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 02:19 am:   

Can't wait to get the remastered "Fresh." I love that record, and have never owned it on CD. Funny news of this came out just as Allen mentioned it. ESP, my friend.
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Geoff Holmes
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Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 05:30 am:   

Spence...the Church were doing their stuff LONG before The House of Love copied them! The first time I heard Never I thought it was a new Church song so uncannily similar it was. I really liked the house of love - Fishermans Tale is genius - but they never hit the darts board in the bulls eye for me. You gotta remember the quote from Ride who said they saw the House of Love and basically said, we can do better, which for me, they did in spades.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 09:32 am:   

I think you're right Rob...you know, I was also thinking it was a damn shame that new CDs don't cost 99 cents each, and also that Irene Jacob hasn't moved to America from France and fallen madly in love with me...:-)
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spence
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Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 09:50 am:   

Geoff, quite, I see how HOL lifted from The Church, I was merely suggeting that at the time of Babe rainbow, it was time for the Church to move on a bit, aws HOL were doing it better, it was such an axcellent LP IMHO.
A quote from Ride wouldn't have influenced me at that time! They were only kids, who did play exceptionally well, the thing is Chadwick was a lot older than most of the people around at the time, what is he now? 50? So he was fortunate to get the acclaim in many ways, ususally most people are past it at 30.
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joe
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Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   

ride were no doubt younger and much prettier, but they were still a much stronger and more confident unit. the hol never recorded anything as solid as nowhere, today forever or going blank again.

i do quite like babe rainbow though...i still have the original "how to listen to" guide with my copy! their comeback the other year was a good listen too.
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spence
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Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:08 am:   

to be honest Joe, Ride looked like a bunch of shoegazers every time I saw them, evn though they were one up from shoegazing, I saw em 5 or 6 times and HOL about 11, and I conclude HOL won the live thing every time.
however, many moons ago I used to know tim abbot who worked fpr cretion and i remember him playing me a tape of ride's leave them all behind befroe it cam out and thinking it was the best song ever, live on that tour they were powerful, due partially to the stacks of amps behind em, moveover the Quo!
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joe
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Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 11:32 am:   

i never had the pleasure of seeing either of them live, being far too young at the time....though i did see mark gardener on all three of his acoustic dates in melbourne a couple of years back. it wasn't all that special, but it was nice just hearing the songs and his sweet voice....which has matured a bit over the years. leave them all behind is still technically my favourite song ever, though it doesn't pack the punch it used to for me anymore. i love the album anyway....listened to it yesterday for the first time in months. 0x4 is as dreamy as always.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:47 pm:   

Hmmmm, don't have anything by HOL, but being the shoegazer nut that I am, I love Ride, especially Nowhere. "In a different place" from Nowhere is pure shoegazer bliss for me.
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 03:52 pm:   

I wouldn't really put HOL or Ride in the same bracket (or parenthesis). If they weren't on Creation they probably wouldn't be comparable.#
Michael, Nowhere was an amazing record at the time, from the sleeve onwards & a luvverly run of E.P's up until Today Forever.
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TROU
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Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:54 pm:   

As I can't listen to my old vinyls anymore, it would be nice if someone could release on cd 'Miss Mauger' by Operating Theatre. An irish project of 1983 I think.

http://www.discogs.com/release/409666
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spence
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 10:15 am:   

Looks like Magazine's back catalogue is about to be released at the hands of the remasterbator's.
Let's hope there's additional trax/features to make it all worthwhile, unlike the recent Wire remasters which had no extras at all, and hardly any real difference in sound.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 05:02 pm:   

Spence, thanks for the info. I haven't picked up any of the Echo, 'Mats or Wire remasters that have been issued over the last couple of years. Are the Echo or Replacements remasters worth picking up?
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joe
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 09:48 pm:   

the bunnymen ones are great. as were the albums (up to the grey one anyway), mind. =)
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 05:31 pm:   

Joe, is the sound noticibly improved on the remasters then? I have earlier issues of the first 5 Echo albums on cd.
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joe
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 09:43 pm:   

hey michael....afraid i have to plead ignorance here, the only other bunnymen albums i've heard (other than my own) are my flatmate's LP of ocean rain....which is quite beautiful really and a friend's best of. the sound quality of heaven up here sticks out, though i suspect the album was always kinda fab.
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joe
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 09:45 pm:   

oh and back to your original message....i have the regular el-cheapo copy of then play on, but i don't get it. any advice how to tackle old mac? big big lindsey fan (the first thing i did when i hauled my arse mout of bed this morning was put on "trouble") but i've never really got into the green stuff. a shock i know =))
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 09:57 pm:   

joe, when you say you don't get "Then Play On" are you saying that you just aren't liking it much? Because if you don't care for that one you probably won't go for the others of that era either. I prefer the Lindsey days too, (with the Christine/Bob Welch era second) but if you want to give Peter Green more of a try you might sample "Fleetwood Mac in Chicago," where they do a nice job on a bunch of blues tunes.
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joe
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 10:00 pm:   

yeah i listened to it once and my attention kept trailing off. i quite like bob welch (bare trees/future games), but they don't hold a candle to what's to come.... i will check out that record though. thanks allen.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:27 pm:   

A great live Green era FM album is "Live In Boston, Vol. 1" It rocks more so than "in Chicago", plus it's got a great live version of Jumping At Shadows. Boston Vol. 2 and Vol. 3 were also released, but they aren't as consistent due to too many Jeremy Spencer cuts.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:56 pm:   

Boston? Chicago? I thought you were talking AOR central casting there for a bit.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 06:03 pm:   

Dunno how many Warren Zevon fans populate this space, but it looks like two great albums of his - "Stand in the Fire" and "The Envoy" - are finally seeing the light of day on CD, along with the requisite bonus tracks.

"Excitable Boy" is getting the spit-and-polish treatment at the same time, but my current CD version suits me fine.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 06:20 pm:   

That is good news..."Fire" is pretty fierce piece of work, and "Envoy" got unfairly slighted on the "Genius" compilation, I thought.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 04:51 pm:   

The first WZ with the blue cover could use a spit-and-polish version as well.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 04:58 pm:   

Agreed, Michael. I assume they threw "Excitable Boy" in with "The Envoy" and "Stand in the Fire" because it's his most popular and will attract some attention. s/t probably isn't far behind.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 08:20 pm:   

My favorite Zevon album was "Sentimental Hygiene," the one where he was mostly backed by R.E.M. minus Stipe. I'd love to have a remastered version of that with some outtakes. Of course, they also did that Hindu Love Gods thing, which I never heard. When I saw R.E.M. in Oakland in '87, Zevon joined them onstage for one song--Wire's "Strange," which was an odd choice. I wouldn't have expected Zevon to even be aware of Wire.
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spence
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 08:30 pm:   

Kurt I liked Strange, it sorta like Verlaine's, Breaking in my heart or The MEkons - Where were you. I suppose its a free n easy jam along, that's probably why Zevon jammed?

I'd like to hear a Danger in the past remaster, with BONUS tunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n additional pics, like from the recording sessions, and robert's reflections 17 years down the line, JEEZ!
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 08:51 pm:   

The Hindu Love Gods thing was pretty good, Kurt, but nowhere near as terrific as "Sentimental Hygiene." The best thing on it, by far, is a killer cover of "Raspberry Beret." The rest sounds like some guys with some paid-for studio time on their hands.

I do hope that someone in REM, someday, puts those two records on as a reminder that, once upon a time, they rocked pretty hard.
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Little Keith
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 08:53 pm:   

REM, of course, covered it. Maybe Warren was just sort of along for the ride...shining the hippie boys on. "Okay, I'll join you on your strange art-punk song. Whatever."
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Andrew Kerr
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Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 02:08 pm:   

Spence,

I doubt somehow that bonus tunes exist from 'Danger in the Past'. From what I've already read and from what the great man himself says on that Mark Radcliffe radio session he is not a prolific songwriter. '3 songs a year' he says on that show...

There is 'The Land that Time Forgot' on the b-side of the 'Baby Stones' 45 I suppose, but it doesn't really go somehow with 'Danger in The Past' for me.

But I would like to see some pics and Robert's writing on the sessions. And I wholeheartedly back your previous idea of a kind of 'scrapbook' of G-Bs material. I'll donate my genuine set-list from Melbourne Uni 1986! And transcribe my interview with Grant from 1987...

In general I am suffering from a backlash against this deluge of releasing absolutely everything from every artist. I recently heard the expanded live 'Rock of Ages' from The Band and the reason that the tracks with Dylan were unreleased were because they are complete sh**e!!! Also got my partner a present of the latest Louise Attaque CD and it is far too long: bands seem to now think that they are obliged to fill the time, even if it is with self indulgent dross. Nick Drake's 'Pink Moon' lasts for 28 minutes and it is perfect.

Rant over. Sinking in an over-sufficiency of music!
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Per Stam
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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 02:46 pm:   

Needs Re-mastering; needs to be released on cd:
* all 4 doll by doll albums (and the unreleased one). This year it will finally happen, according to a recent Jackie Leven interview.

* All four Robert Forster solo albums. I have been listening to Warm Nights a lot lately, it's still quite good (they tried some Lou Reed, Transformer, ideas on The Fortress, I think it's great, although the Dylan '65 of Rock'n'Roll Friend did not work). Add the two Cryin' Love b-sides, all the recordings by the Warm Nights group (Adele and Glenn), I've heard I think three songs pre-album (thanks to Andrew): especially Rock'n'Roll Friend is brilliant, as both She sang About Angels (had to wait until TFORW) and I Can Do.

* About Danger In The Past extra material. Robert toured the album with Baby You Know. Sounded great - and different! The one and only recording I know of with BYK as backing band is Tower of Song on that Cohen compilation, but they also had a live recording on Swedish Radio. There is (was?) also a couple of fine mp3:s at the Baby You Know site: What Goes On (demo?) and 121 (demo). - That would make another fine 30-40 minutes.
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spence
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 09:56 am:   

Andrew, true, howver, its got that classic album tag for me, that would make it worty of a re-release, if to raise its profile if nothing else.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 05:18 pm:   

Talk about albums in need of re-issue! The recent posts about Richard Thompson point up the enormous difficulty of getting many of the Richard and Linda Thompson albums at this time. I only have SOTL and "I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight." Albums like "First Light," "Pour Down Like Silver" and "Sunnyvista Terrace" are pretty much made of unobtainium now. And, of course, I remember passing by both "Pour Down" and "Sunnyvista" in years past with no clue that they were going to become such a hassle to find.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 05:29 pm:   

Randy,
Don't forget "Hokey Pokey"! It's a toss-up between it and PDLS as being my third favorite behind SOTL and IWTSTBLT. "Sunnyvista and "First Light" are pretty good, but not essential.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 07:18 pm:   

Hey, Randy, I think "Pour Down Like Silver" is very much available, and in a remastered edition no less. Check out Amazon. They've got used copies of "Sunnyvista Terrace," too, but I wouldn't pay $35 for one. Michael summed it up: Pretty good, not essential.
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 07:39 pm:   

At the risk of being the board outcast(again), why does the name Richard Thompson make me cringe. The music is bland, folky nonsense, he looks like your Dad, and your Dad probably buys his music.
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Kurt Stephan
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 07:48 pm:   

You ever heard him play "Shoot Out the Lights" live, Kevin?

So, I take it that when you're at parties, you always like to piss in the punchbowl?
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kevin
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 07:58 pm:   

Kurt,

1) Nope, but I'll get over it
2) You know me too well :-)

actually, I would rather drink p..., well then again maybe not
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 02:01 am:   

Kevin never disappoints! His blast of Richard Thompson gave me my best laugh for the day. I think the "PDLS" on Amazon was a cassette or something like that but I'll look again.
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spence
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:11 am:   

RT reminds me of the singer from Coldplay on the recent Whistle Test DVD of him with Linda, if that isn't enough to put you off too!!!...
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   

I'm with Kevin on Richard Thompson. Never got it. "Milkmaid went a-churnin'" music I call it.
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kevin
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 02:10 am:   

Padraig, thats brilliant - laugh out loud stuff.
To the rest of the gang who like his stuff, no hard feelings. I'm sure most of you feel the same about the reggae that I bang on about.
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David Gagen
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 02:17 am:   

Ouch!! He's released too many albumns over his career for such a generalization to be unchallenged (with respect PC). Each to his own I know. I agree that there is that silly aspect to some of his songs, but many others transcend that description. Listen to "Outside Of the Inside" from Kitbag album, (the "Taliban Song"). No milkmaids there! Then again I only became totally converted when I heard these songs live, and I conveniently overlook the duds! But who doesn't!
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 02:32 am:   

Kevin, Padraig - I'm actually kind of glad you guys don't love RT. Makes this joint more interesting! It's cool that the GBs are the locus here, but the routes people take to get here in terms of musical taste are somewhat different. I do notice a general difference in preferences between the Americans and the folks from the British Isles. But it's odd that it seems us Yanks are the ones talking up RT. Why is that?
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:17 am:   

Because we like the quaint anachronism of the milkmaid a-churnin', of course. We're like the tourists gawking at the Village Green and saying . . . . all together now:

"Gor, darlin'! Isn't it a pretty scene!"
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David Gagen
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 01:31 pm:   

We're convicts down here in Oz, Rob, not folks from the British Isles! "Crooked Lines" can lead us to the GB's though.
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Rob Brookman
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 03:52 pm:   

Hey, David, I guess I was referring to our resident RT skeptics, Kev and Padraig. I wouldn't dare confuse you – you guys in Oz have your own freakin' continent! Not bad for convicts...
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David Gagen
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:06 pm:   

No worries. Had a laugh though. Intersection at GB's, divergence aplenty. I suppose in the end I find it interesting that he has developed/maintained a type of music totally removed from the blues tradition. A parallel universe(Of churning milkmaids)! Back to thread, nearly all the Froom albums need remastering!
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 05:00 pm:   

Kevin and Padraig, so would you guys characterize Fairport Convention then as being "Milkmaid went a-churnin'" music as well? If you do that would probably make Kate Rusby "Milkmaid went a-churnin while waiting for her guy to return from the sea" music. Like David said, we intersect at the GB's. I get shots for liking the shoegazer and Paisley Underground bands too much.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 07:29 am:   

Midnight Oil's Diesel And Dust.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 04:30 pm:   

Padraig, on Amazon I find both new and used copies of "Diesel and Dust" so it probably doesn't need remastering unless you feel the original sound is bad. Much as I respect your opinions, I just couldn't get myself to click the "buy" button. I'm afraid.

Has anybody gotten a copy of the Ed Kuepper anthology released last year? Does it have better sound than the original albums? Most of Kuepper's albums have an excessively shrill sound which would be relatively easy to improve upon if remastered.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 09:41 pm:   

Hi Randy, I do have it on CD and the sound is way too muted for what is - no other way to say this - quite bombastic music. I really love it though!

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