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skulldisco
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 04:07 am:   

Almost a new month, so time for a new thread

Neon Neon - Stainless Style

Various Artist on Warp Records - Artificial Intelligence

Arthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me
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Stuart Wilson
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 10:09 am:   

A weekend going through the shelves...

Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff

Popol vuh - in den garten pharaos

Bob Dylan - Planet waves (for the very first time)

Being there - Wilco (especially Far far away)

Death cab for cuties - Transatlanticism

David Gilmour - Live at the Albert hall (especially Fat old sun)

Hope to get round to buying some new stuff soon...
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   

REM - Murmer 25th anniversary Deluxe edition. Sometimes this sounds like the greatest album ever made. Today was one of those days
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XY765
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Post Number: 502
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   

The Natural Bridge - Silver Jews
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1485
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 06:48 pm:   

Kev, how does that Deluxe Murmur sound? I've read people complaining that it's a bit over-compressed, ridding the quieter sections of their dynamic range. What are you impressions?

I'm definitely with you on it sometimes sounding like the greatest album ever made. The impact that album (both its songs and its sound) has had on me is monumental.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 08:33 pm:   

Jeff, only had one listen but didnt notice any compression problems. However, wasnt playing it too loud so maybe the 'phones will pick that up. I actually noticed subtle little things like percusssion-ey effects I'd never heard before and Bucks guitar on some tracks being more audible than I remember. Also Stipes mumbly, rapid fire babbling on 9-9 sounds a bit more upfront. Still cant make out a word of what he's saying on that track mind you.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1854
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 03:18 am:   

Doctor Millar--The Bitter Lie
Wild Swans--Bringing Home the Ashes. Well, Jeff warned me about this one. Mucho gated drums.
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Andrew Kerr
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Post Number: 382
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:57 am:   

Those purveyors of languid melancholia the TrashCan Sinatras and a new single (the 7 minute) 'Oranges and Apples'. I've never understood why they are not better known.

A tribute to Syd Barrett.
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peter ward
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:04 am:   

Randy, I haven't listened to that Dr Millar album in years, the track "Alcohol Problem" was like the National Anthem at manys a party I used host in a timber house that I lived in. People standing on chairs, toasting the air when the "D-R-I-N..." refrain kicked in at the end, I'm sure Dr Millar would have enjoyed the irony!

Port O'Brien - All we could do was sing
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andreas
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Post Number: 695
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:16 am:   

peter, great that you mention port o' brien.
i didn't bought the album, but 'i woke up today' is still one of my favourite songs of this year to which i listen regular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw3Y84zXL wg
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andreas
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Post Number: 696
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 01:23 pm:   

charlie haden - liberation music orchestra

an album searching for freedom (in life and in music) at the time of its release. and (sadly)it still has to do it until now.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1486
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Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 12:08 am:   

Kev, compression aside, it sounds like from your description that the deluxe remaster really brings out the detail in Murmur, which is a very cool thing for a record with so much subtle detail. I may just have to check this one out. And yeah, nothing short of a lyric sheet is going to make sense of Stipes' mumbling!
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 1314
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 12:48 am:   

Sonny Rollins - Don't Stop the Carnival
Four Tet - Everything Ecstatic
Age of Chance - Crush Collision
Luther Vandross - The Best of Love
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joe
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Post Number: 601
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 11:57 am:   

after the chatter here, all four smiths studio records pretty much soley for about a week. they all serve their purpose somewhat perfectly. even the filler towards the end of MIM sounds sweeter now.
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frank bascombe
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Post Number: 398
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 05:13 pm:   

Robert Wyatt-Rock Bottom
Uncut magazine attached CD
Velvet Underground-Loaded
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frank bascombe
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Post Number: 399
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 05:14 pm:   

Last night on Radio 2 Radcliffe and Maconie had a great 15mins on Postcard records playing We Could Send letters on 7" vinyl and Josef K and name checking the GBs.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2499
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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 01:58 am:   

Lloyd Cole - Antidepressant. The divorce album. God it's heartbreaking. Brilliantly so.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1855
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 04:27 am:   

David Westlake--Westlake
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 12:46 am:   

geeneus - volumes one

sabres of paradise - sabresonic

the replacements - pleased to meet me

Various artists - Black and White reggae classic produced by Carlton Patterson

Radio Birdman - Radios Appear

Portishead - Third
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Jonathan Evans
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 01:47 pm:   

The Dream Academy - The Dream Academy.
Its a long time since I listened to this, features Life In A Northern Town, which has had its soul ripped out via bad sampling.
Its amazing what you find while trying to get some organisation in your CD Collection.

Cheers
Jon
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1856
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 01:23 am:   

Augie March--Watch Me Disappear

I still think the first two tracks are weak; that will probably turn out to be my final judgment for them. But this record builds astonishingly as it proceeds from that point on. And the last song is a thing of overblown beauty.
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Simon Withers
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 11:44 am:   

The Chills. Various live concerts. Rediscovering one of my all-time favourite banda, and hoping Martin Phillipps gets it together to tour Europe again.
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joe
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Post Number: 602
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:16 am:   

kev, i've been listening to the replacements a lot recently too. i still think pleased to meet me...hands down...is a lot more enjoyable and catchy than tim, which always seems slightly muddled. granted, neither of them begin to compare with let it be. i'm no 'mats expert, but the likes of androgynous, dissatisfied and answering machine seem like complete one-offs.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1857
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 04:43 am:   

Tallulah Gosh--Backwash

Poor Martin Phillipps. Sigh. I don't think it's feasible for the Chulls to tour. I don't think it pays.

Peter, so there ARE people who actually heard Doctor Millar? Just in Eire, right? If it hadn't been for Padraig sending songs from an album over the net a year or so ago, I'd never have been any the wiser and when I go looking for Doctor Millar, big outlets like Amazon do not acknowledge his existence.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1489
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 06:23 am:   

David Westlake - Westlake

Simple Minds - Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call

Concubines - extremely unfinished, rough as hell mixes of new material
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1323
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 05:10 pm:   

Kev and Jeff, I'll guess I'll have to step up to the pump and get REM - Murmer 25th anniversary Deluxe edition. I'm wondering though if it's worth it as I have a Gold CD version of Murmur that sounds great, and I have a CD boot of the live concert or a very similar one from the same era.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2502
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:54 pm:   

Randy Newman - Harps & Angels.

Randy, I love the first two tracks on the Augie March album and feel the next two drop the ball a tad!
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2503
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:55 pm:   

The second line above is aimed at Randy Adams, not Randy Newman (or Randy Travis either) by the way.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Post Number: 1490
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 12:49 am:   

Michael, I'm not sure... Although I've never heard it, I've been told the Gold Murmur holds up quite well to the deluxe remaster. If that's truly the case, the main advantage of the deluxe cd might be nicer packaging! I've yet to buy any CD copy of Murmur. My LP still sounds so good I'd almost rather just burn it straight to cd-r!

Listening to:

Always - Thames Valley Leather Club

Split Enz - Time & Tide
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2505
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 01:06 am:   

Cat Power - You Are Free
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 1318
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 07:21 am:   

Gotta concur with the kudos for "The Sound of the Smiths," the first comp of theirs I've heard that gets the song choice and sequencing just right, so that I just keep nodding my head, tapping my foot and grinning.
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 430
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   

I think the third track is the first dead set classic on the Augie March one Padraig!
On Randy's suggestion, I got the first 2 and am quite underwhelmed at the moment. The songwriting is less developed, the melodies less memorable and the use of "effects", be they electronic or not, seem to cover up for the lack of songs!!! Gee, I'm sounding like I HATE the band! I better give them a few more spins! I guess I am starting to here an electric 12 string on the new one and that inevitably leads me to liking the sound of the album!
Haven't got the first ep yet though know where it sits (neglected) in some crass marketing mega store conglomerate if I feel the need for completion!
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1858
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 04:49 pm:   

Stick with the first two albums, Geoff. One of the things I like about them is their indirectness. There's nothing radio-pandering like "One Crowded Hour" (which originally almost put me off this group). Songs like "Little Wonder" (from "Strange Bird") start at a distance from you and by the time the song is over it's rubbing up against your ankles like a cat. It's the slowly building meandering approach to songs that is uniquely Glenn Richards and which is what I respond to. And the band's delicate arrangements emphasize that effect very well. But I've said it before: Richards is fundamentally a folkie and his songs express a uniquely Australian wide-open-space sensibility. This is music of the frontier. It's not the music of the cities or the beaches. That's probably part of what appeals to this western American so much; Glenn Richards evokes something that is now mostly gone here in the States. And he is unapologetically Australian. Thankfully there is no soft-pedalling of that. Lord, just listen to the barely over one minute of "O Mi Sol Li Lon!" I don't know if it's inspired by indigenous music but it's deeply stirring and entirely rural. And there ARE some pretty straightforward melodic songs such "The Keepa" and--probably fated to remain one of Richards' lifelong classics--"There's No Such Place." "Strange Bird" in particular I think is a masterpiece. I guess you can tell that I'm smitten by this group. I still remember this little half-hour set I saw them do here in Los Angeles at a music festival with six people in the audience and only me aware of who they were. We were surrounded by other stages pumping out noisy crowd-pleasing dreck and here was this super-disciplined and tight band delivering delicate tales of inner and outer life in the Australian outback. Talk about pearls before swine!
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1859
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Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 06:26 am:   

And my 80s exploration continues:

The Servants--Reserved
Teardrop Explodes--Wilder
The Sound--From the Lion's Mouth
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Simon Withers
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 12:44 pm:   

Ah, Wilder - used to listen to that a lot back in the day. Pure Joy, Tiny Children and my personal fave, Like Leila Khaled Said. Can't think of many songs about hijackers; though there is John Adams' opera The Death of Klinghoffer about a victim of the PLF (Khaled was a member of the PFLP - it's all very Life of Brian).
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 04:49 pm:   

I love "Wilder." The critics all slagged it, but I think it's a brilliant album. Perfect balance of loopy artiness and succinct, melodic pop.
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2508
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Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 09:43 am:   

Deerhunter's new release plus an earlier album (their debut I suppose) which was packaged with it. I liked them both. For MBV/M83/JAMC fans.

After that I played Meet Glen Campbell, which really is great.

And just now I played The Tyde's most recent album. Not great on first listen.
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skulldisco
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Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 10:14 am:   

padraig, the 2nd deerhunter disc is actually an album they made after Microcastle(the main album)- i think its included because Microcastle was sort of relaunched recently after having been available since early this year on things like itunes etc, but not as a cd, and the second disc was to represent where they are as a band currently.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 10:33 am:   

Ah! Thanks Kevin.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 04:12 am:   

The version of "Wilder" that I have comes with "Buff Manila." On two and a half listens I find far too much 80s production sheen. For example the horns, or fake horns if that's what they are, make me think I'm listening to a Wham! record or something. But the simpler pieces without the augmented arrangements are quite nice. After hearing this the other night I really appreciated the lower budget of the Sound's album where, for the most part, you're just hearing the band and that's it.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 04:47 pm:   

Those are real horns on Wilder, Randy. They even went on tour with a human horn section. Cope was a bit of purist as far as arrangements. For some reason, my vinyl copy never struck me as sounding slick. When I hear it it sounds rich, detailed, lush, nuanced, but not slick or overly sheen-y. They did incorporate a fair amount of analog synths for atmosphere, though. Wham! couldn't be further from Teardrop Explodes (could Wham! ever have come up with something as off-kilter as "Seven View of Jerusalem," or as rocking as "Colors Fly Away," or as densely atmospheric as "Tiny Children"?), but each to his own!
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1863
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Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 05:05 pm:   

I haven't given up on them Jeff. I'll keep working at them because there are enough tracks interspersed that I like. But I will probably always hate the horns.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 02:38 am:   

No worries, I just thought the Wham! comparison was a bit cheeky or daft! Have you tried their debut, Kilimanjaro, yet? That's one's a bit rougher around the edges.
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Geoff Holmes
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 10:54 am:   

Just heard this GREAT song on the radio (always tasteful Annette Shun War(?)) by a UK outfit called the Unseen Guest. Called "Listen my son" it was sort of bluesy but with a touch of the exotic. A quick scan on the net reveal they are another indo-anglo affair. Has anyone heard anything of their 2 albums?

And since we're talking Teardrop Explodes, remember its POP Randy - Pure Pop! except Cope was writing "Colours Fly Away", "Poppies in the field" and "When I Dream".
It was very sheeny - it was after all the early 80's! I think he got better as the decade progressed and he injested more drugs! Try "Fried" which is more organic if the early stuff is too slick. Also there is an album called "Piano" which has early versions of many of the songs that appeared in Kilimanjaro and other pieces of Cope lunacy.
"Namdam am I, I'm a madman" indeed!
Long live the Drude!
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Geoff Holmes
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 11:03 am:   

Randy,
I'm starting to really like "Sunset Studies"(Augie March) but the 2nd one's still a bit dense still so far.
I've seen them twice - once at the now defunct Yallah Roadhouse (YEAR HAR!)and once supporting the Crowdies homecoming gig last year at the dreaded ent cent. Great both times - a quality band with a wealth of rich material.
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Geoff Holmes
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 11:05 am:   

....despite the venues!!!!!!!!
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 05:13 pm:   

Randy wrote:
>And my 80s exploration continues:

I'll recommend if you don't have:
New Musik - From A to B
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Allen Belz
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Post Number: 1320
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 07:49 pm:   

Bona Drag, Kill Uncle & Your Arsenal - Steven Morrissey

Mu-ziq - In Pine Effect

The Rough Guide to Bhangra Dance
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 08:25 pm:   

Adrian Borland - Alexandria

Siouxsie - Tinderbox

Dif Juz - Extractions
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joe
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 09:03 pm:   

allen, been on a mad vauxall & i spree myself!
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 10:03 pm:   

My spree is residual fallout from the aforementioned Smiths comp, I think.
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joe
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 02:01 am:   

ditto. speedway might just me my new mozzer #2 (nothing's touching late night...)
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spence
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 09:40 am:   

Kitchens of Distinction - Strange free world
Richard Hawley - Coles Corner
Bing Crosby - various Xmas songs.
Rumblefish - 1234
Sigur R—s- çgľtis Byrjun
The Sneetches - lights out with the sneetches
Keys to the kingdom - various
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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 06:02 pm:   

Tony Bennett - Swingin' Christmas

Tis the Season for Los Straitjackets - 13 Rockin' Christmas Instrumentals

Pavement - Brighten the Corners, Nicene Creedence Ed.

Camper Van Beethoven - Popular Songs of Enduring Strength and Beauty

The Essential Louis Armstrong
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 10:31 pm:   

More cassette driving music from the thrift store, with three rather surprising finds:

Marianne Faithfull - Faithfull
An excellent comp, all 1979-87 except for the end where it jumps back to the original "As Tears Go By."

Loudon Wainwright III - Therapy & I'm Alright
Sounds almost like
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 10:37 pm:   

As I started to say...the two titles sound like they followed each other, but the latter came first, so I guess he only thought he was alright.

And speaking of welcome backs, hi Mr. ETM...
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Dr Girlfriend
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   

That Faithfull comp is great, isn't it, Allen? Just listened to it recently. I like that it ends with "As Tears Go By" though, because it's a shocking contrast after all the songs before it done in her "wrecked by drugs" voice. A perverse but effective bit of sequencing, or just a tacked-on afterthought?
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 10:49 pm:   

The former, I'm guessing...I can see her and Chris Blackwell grinning as the idea came to them. Have to say I like her later voice better, though...far more character, for just one thing.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 12:08 am:   

It might also be a kissoff to the first phase of her recording career, implying that that one song is all that's worth saving.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 02:02 am:   

Nah, she did a bunch of great stuff in that first phase. Her first album in 1965 was actually TWO albums issued simultaneously. One was a pop selection with the Hit and also the follow-up hit ("Come and Stay with Me") and a bunch of unsuitable covers such as "Can't You Hear My Heartbeat" and "Down Town" while the other one was a very nice acoustic folk album arranged and produced by guitarist John Mark. She would do another acoustic folk album with John Mark and a final excellent chanteuse/folk album ("Love in Mist"). Highlights of this phase of her career include a superb version of "The First Time" (which I just now discover I only have on vinyl!) and her handful of Donovan numbers hinting of her darker future, particularly "In the Night Time" and "Sunny Goodge Street." She even covered Ray Davies' "Rosie Won't You Please Come Home" though I can't give her version high marks. "As Tears Go By" is not her best moment from her early phase; it's just the best-known and written by the famous boyfriend.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 03:17 am:   

I stand corrected...or rather, of speaking without sufficient knowledge. :-)
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spence
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 05:25 am:   

Just having a look up and down thread...

Spotted Always Jeff! Is that the 10'' on el!!?

Is the Murmer remaster good Kev/anyone?

Trashcans are grossly underrated andrew, that song is great, weightlifting the album is pure sweetness, I think they are big in the 'cult' fellowship sense but a commercial disaster, I don't think they care, which is nice.

I must get round to purchasing The Sound back catalogue, what you got Randy by them, what's the best starting point?
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 03:47 pm:   

No worries, Allen. She had that sweet folk-bird voice at the time to go along with her face. It won't suit a lot of people who are used to her later sound which IS unquestionably the classic Marianne Faithfull. My only point was that she did some ambitious stuff, all within the confines of the English dolly bird tradition. She also did some dreck, especially on the first pop album.

Spence, Jeff is the person to ask about the Sound. I only have two albums, From the Lion's Mouth and Shock of Daylight/Heads and Hearts. I was supposed to get Propaganda and Jeopardy but got distracted and now I see that Jeopardy has become super $$$$! They're all Renascent reissues.
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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   

I don't know from MF's earlier career so much, but I suspect it won't have the oomph and gravitas her stuff took on after she became all junkified and dissolute. I think her version of the venerable blues classic, "Trouble in Mind", is amazing. She actually sounds like she means it, man. It actually moves from the realm of something that sounds like it belongs in a museum to the land of the real, making it really hurt and really count, the way the supreme being intended it.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 05:01 pm:   

Hey Spence - I have the Always reissue on CD, which contains the full album + loads of bonus tracks. I also have a Greek pressing of the LP, but it's not a 10". Great stuff!

Oh, and my favorite Sound records are the Shock of Daylight EP and the Heads and Hearts LP, which you can find together on one CD. From the Lion's Mouth comes highly recommended from me, too. Jeopardy, their debut, is really raw and kinda punky, and also good.
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skulldisco
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   

I remember seeing The Sound supporting Echo and The Bunnymen at the local University in 1981 or so. I think it was the tour for the Bunnymens Heaven Up Here album and I had never even heard of Tshe Sound. It was probably one the finest support set I have ever seen, and I bought Jeopardy the next day.
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andreas
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   

the sound, hmmm. I owned 'from the lions mouth' and it was a kind of love and hate thing. all in all it was just a search for the sound of the time or to be more precise: as a joy divison fan i bought nearly all that stuff that sounded 'similar'. but that was the crux. nobody really sounded like joy division -because they were more like punk and the followers including echo, bauhaus, cocteaus, the chameleons, the comsat angels just to name the most important/well known bands were more like imitators- and to be true most of the music gets (more/or less) boring - but joy division's sound is still great.
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andreas
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 07:55 pm:   

jacques loussier trio - gymnopedies, gnossienne

jazz adaption of satie's well known gymnopedies. soothing, lovely.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 08:50 pm:   

Andreas, I wonder what you'd think of the 1981 vintage Wild Swans.
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andreas
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:35 pm:   

randy, in this 'google and 30 seconds snippets' times it would be very easy to say, ah great band that was, but to be true i can't remember heard about that group neither at that time nor at later times. but the snippets sounded like i would have bought and liked their music in my youth.

but now there are other times and i prefer to listen to a wonderful and great compilation of southern soul: take me to the river a southern soul story. a real kent nugget. not for real diggers, because it contains just the pearls. 3 cd's. wonderful packaged. track by track notes. really, really great heart burning stuff from you don't miss your water over i'd rather go blind till the dark end of the street and many, many others (more or less famous) classics.
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Ewan Talisker McEwan
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Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 11:00 pm:   

Excellent taste, Andreas. I don't have that comp but I heart it!

Btw, the Jock Lousierr you speak of? I believe, if Im not mistaken, that the Go-Betweens recorded at his studio. It's a small world, after all!
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 12:39 am:   

Lee Dorsey - Yes We Can
Elmore James - "Let's Cut It" - The Best of...
Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine
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Andreas Severins
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Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 04:43 pm:   

Topic The Sound:
For me is THE album their first one - Jeopardy.
When it was released it was one of my favourites. It was in a row with the first Comsat Angels and early Echo stuff. Today I like all of their albums but the best are the first two ones.
Spence, it is possible to get some nice live recordings thru renascent for a more than fair price. The others are tooo expensive.

At the moment I hear the Scott Matthew album because I am on my way to one of his concerts in Duisburg...

cu...
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 04:49 pm:   

Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Perscription
The songs on the album detail a drug trip in sequence from the first song to the last.
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 01:20 am:   

Quite a long time ago Jeff sent me a nice little sample of the Sound's music. I remember particularly liking the jagged quality of the earlier work but cannot remember whether it was from "Jeopardy" or from "Propaganda." This conforms to a common pattern in which I often favor the earlier more primitive work of an artist and Jeff favors the more developed and polished work. "Jeopardy" does now appear to be massively expensive so I guess the reissue was low volume. I have ordered an acceptably-priced copy of "Propaganda" which (I think) is material recorded even before "Jeopardy." Is that the live set you are referring to Andreas?

I still haven't explored the Comsat Angels. I have an old vinyl C.S. Angels album (which is later) but haven't even listened to it in at least 20 years. I think Jeff sent me some Comsat stuff but I don't recall anything about it.
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 01:57 am:   

Randy, the earlier Sound material I sent you was from Jeopardy. I think Propaganda is either live or demos, but I don't have it.

I wouldn't say that I favor more developed polished work, but that I do go for better song composition, and to me the Sound's ability to craft great songs was at a peak by the time they got to the "Heads and Hearts," LP. I love Jeopardy all the same, though, because it does contain great songs.

But to debunk the polished myth, for exapmle, I love the Birthday Party at their most discordant and musically adventurous (Prayers, Junkyard, Bad Seed, etc..), and I think Nick Cave's best solo album by far is the jagged, scabrous From Her To Eternity, yet I find all the polished and developed work Cave has put out since Let Love In to be total crap.

Not to mention, I'll take "Love Your Enemies" Microdisney over "39 Minutes" Microdisney any day of the week, as much as I do like the latter.

Much like I'll take Grant's "Hold Your Horses" from SMaL over any of his solo material.

Grotesque over anything the Fall did post-1990...

etc, etc, etc...

Randy, I was never able to send you any Comsats as I don't think I have any of their material on CD or in mp3 format. I like their first album, "Waiting for a Miracle" and their third album, "Fiction," quite a bit. But their second album, "Sleep No More," is dull, dull, dull. Comsats often got mentioned in the same breath as the Sound, but I think the Sound was better.
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:11 am:   

Belles Will Ring - Broader Than Broadway. Just bought it today. The singer / guitarist's girlfriend is a work colleague of mine. She also sings backing vocals on a couple of tracks on the record. Just playing it now for the first time and it deserves the rather raving review it got in today's Sydney Morning Herald. The review didn't mention the lovely Byrds touches to a lot of what they do. It's a mini-album with seven tracks and, on first listen at least, all seven are great. JB Hifi are selling it for $14.
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spence
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 02:07 pm:   

The Monochrome Set - Strange Boutique
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:45 pm:   

I stand corrected Jeff. What a royal flush of wrongness! Generalization gets me in trouble every time.
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skulldisco
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Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 09:59 pm:   

Eddy Current Suppression Ring - Primary Colours
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Geoff Holmes
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 01:40 am:   

Padraig,
Is it better than the first one that was released last year(?)?
AGAIN, I didn't hear any true Byrds sound on the first one apart from some standard jangly guitar in parts. Despite EVERYONE here (at the very least) saying that Teenage fanclub sound JUST LIKE the Byrds, I have heard no band that puts it all together like them.
I probably listen to too much Byrds!!
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skulldisco
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 02:07 am:   

the byrds shit all over the beatles (sorry!)
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 04:07 am:   

I havne't heard their debut Geoff. I'm told by those in the know that the new release is quite different and better than the first.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 04:10 am:   

By the way, not everyone here says that about Teenage Fanclub and The Byrds! I certainly don't!
Teenage Fanclub started out sounding like Dinosaur Jr, then got more interesting when they discovered Big Star. Only after that did they incorporate The Byrds into their sound.
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andreas
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:37 am:   

neil young - live at canterbury house 1968

hissing, noise, but the acoustic guitar and his voice are totally clear. this combination is a bit strange, but the music itselfs captures you. classics. as one who favours his first solo album it is a pleasure to listen to this really intimate gig.
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spence
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   

A Factory Sample - Various.

Its superb, still sounds relevant
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skulldisco
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 04:14 pm:   

so nobody liked my byrds joke then?
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   

Skulldisco, I have to admit that I did not pick up on it ( sorry ), but ignoring cover versions, Gene Clark was, in my humble opinion, the only talented songwriter that The Byrds ever had. Nice to have you back. With a few exceptions, our musical taste is probably miles apart but I still enjoy your input ( plus the fact that we are both Scottish.)

I checked out a couple of the new Belles Will Ring tracks on MySpace and I have to say I struggled to see any particular Byrds influences ( sorry Padraig :-) )

Geoff, I love The Byrds but I am not a 'fan' of Teenage Fanclub. You can never have too much of the The Byrds. I adored them as a youngster ( and still do ) but I have to say I have always wondered what might have been had Gene Clark remained a member. When you look at what he went on to record ( White Light; No Other: The Fantastic Expediton Of Dillard & Clark; Through The Morning, Through The Night ) it whets the appetite for what The Byrds may have made of the songs. Have you checked out Aerial Maps. If so, I would be interested in your opinion.

Randy, I know you are a Dylan fan so I am going to send you a cover version of one of his songs for Christmas. It is by one of the Swedish artists whose work I collect. No idea what you will make of it.

Currently listening to:-

A Garland Of Song - The Owl Service
Ladybird - Love Will Conquer All
Eyedrop - You And Me vs The Machine
Orphan Songs - Orphan Songs
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:25 am:   

Actually Hugh, I am a Dylan dabbler. On the other hand I have a decades-long love affair with Gene Clark. I agree with what you've said about the Byrds here (though I do give very high marks to Gram Parsons as a writer also). McGuinn had a nice recognizable vocal style--even if it was a bit contrived--and his ambitious work with the electric 12 broke a lot of barriers. I have a huge liking for Chris Hillman's bass playing which followed McGuinn's ideas on the 12-string excellently. David Crosby was a first-class jerk but I like his approach to rhythm guitar and nobody can deny his excellent capacity as a harmony singer. And, hey, the drummer looked like Brian Jones. But the songs of Gene Clark (as well as the Dylan covers of course) are what lifted the Byrds firmly and irrevocably out of the realm of "kids' music" that the Beach Boys and the Beatles occupied at the time.

Your suggestion of what might have been if Gene had stayed in the Byrds is almost torture. "5D" really needed his presence throughout its sessions and the decision to omit "Never Before (Day Walk)" from that uneven album in favor of filler such as "Hey Joe" or "Lear Jet Song" is a classic case of cutting off the nose to spite your face. Imagine what the Byrds would have done with an opus like "Echoes" or "The Same One." Take something like Chris Hillman's pleasant but slight "Time Between" from "Younger Than Yesterday" and replace it with "Tried So Hard." As good as "Younger" may be (other than the laughable "Mind Gardens"), if it had a handful of those Gene Clark songs that were released the same month on his first solo album it would be a whole different bag. I imagine a "Notorious" version of "Only Colombe" and "Out on the Side."

In fairness to McGuinn & Co., Gene's demons really were a serious problem. He drew upon them to write those soul-stabbing songs but it would have been very tough for the Byrds to keep functioning as a touring band with Clark in the ranks. And Crosby picked at them like a scab. Sigh.
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Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:40 am:   

I actually thought birds ate beetles but I guess a higher position will undoubtedly shit on those below too......
Nice to do some Byrds talk with you people!!!
But what if Crosby had done "Laughing" with McGuinn and Hillman??????!!!!!!!

By the way, was listening to "Tarantula" after a self imposed Ride holiday - I've just worked out that crunching riffing at the start of Black Nite Crash. "Moo You Bloody Choir" plays as I write on a very pleasantly warm Australian afternoon. Roll on summer!
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:04 am:   

Geoff, that would get me going on the whole Crosby, Stills & Nash phenomenon. My brothers both loved them from the get-go. Even then at the tender age of 12 I believed they had robbed three vastly superior groups. Nash was the best writer in the Hollies (and I'd say also the best in CSN) and had too strident and strong a voice to go with either Crosby or Stills. He needed Allan Clarke for balance. Stills had his perfect foils in Neil Young and Richie Furay and the same chemistry simply didn't happen with Nash and Crosby. Crosby? Well, like I said: I like his rhythm guitar and he's a great harmony singer.

Btw, Geoff, "Space Odyssey" just ended as I finished writing that paragraph. I decided to pop on "Notorious." Eleven songs and it clocks in at less than 29 minutes!
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:07 am:   

And as a further btw, I am jealous of your arriving summer. In Los Angeles today it topped out at 61 degrees (hmmm, what is that in Celsius?) and is expected to bottom at 43F. I realize most of the Northern Hemisphere posters on here will find that enviable but it's all relative. I find your temperatures enviable right now.
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andreas
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Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:32 pm:   

the byrds, gene clark. i love them/him. much more as i ever liked the beatles. therefore i didn't consider it as a joke... :-)
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spence
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Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 05:39 pm:   

The Wolhounds - Unseen ripples from a pebble.
Kitchens of Distinction - Strange Free World
The Jasmine Minks - Another Age
The Cocteau Twins - Tiny Dynamine
Miles Davies - Bitches Brew
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:23 am:   

McCarthy--The Enraged Will Inherit the Earth.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 07:06 am:   

At the moment am very much enjoying a self-made CD-R of Metal and Shells.
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 04:22 pm:   

Just had a pre christmas trip to New York nad got a few Cds at the Other Music Shop and Bleecker Bobs, Other Music had great selcetion and loads of Felt, whixh is usually my test of a record shop,
Off the top
Crystal Stacks
Felt-Singles Comp
Okkervil River _latest one
Senegalese DIscotheque comp from the 70s
and a Swedish Bon Iver soundalike.
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 04:28 pm:   

Microdisney - Daunt Square to Elsewhere
Go-Betweens - Send Me a Lullaby
Simple Minds - New Gold Dream...
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spence
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   

Pixies - The purple Tape
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 09:46 pm:   

Jim White - Transnormal Skiperoo
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 05:07 pm:   

Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie

(classic early 60's hard bop Blue Note session that includes Coltrane Quartet members McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones, and the great tenor sax of Wayne Shorter)
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Jonathan Evans
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:31 pm:   

Pele : A-Live-A-Live-O (Early 90s scally live mini-album)
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers : Greatest Hits (obvious, but looking at the price I must have made it a New Zealand purchase)
The Go! Team : Thunder, Lightning, Strike (Debut from Brighton dance/pop/indie/everything else outfit)

Cheers
Jon
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   

Was just listening to Kirsty MacColl's "Galore," which contains "Fairytale of New York." Couldn't remember which Pogues album it was originally on, so I Googled, and on the Wiki entry about the song discovered the tidbit of info that in an early TV performance of the song they requested that Kirsty change the word in "the line 'Happy Christmas your arse' to the less offensive 'ass'." Color me completely ignorant after 46 years on this planet, but I always thought they were 100% the same word, just British and Yank versions. I suppose it does illuminate why, when as a boy watching "My Fair Lady" on TV and hearing Audrey Hepburn yell "Move your bloomin' arse!!" I wondered how in the world they allowed that word on TV, because back then "ass" would never have been allowed.
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spence
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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 10:30 am:   

Wilco - Kicking Television: Live In Chicago (has a real festive feel to it, warm cheery crowds - Jesus etc! sorry!!)

Jon, funny enough I was in a group from '88 - '90 used to be called Ear Drum Buzz, then changed name to Revelino, must've been a year for it! U remember Mexico 70 supporting Felt too.
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Jonathan Evans
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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:41 pm:   

Spence
Yes the indie/football link of the early 90s. I'm sure I've got some Mexico 70 somewhere, but an organisation of the CDs in always my 'next job'.

Oh, a proclaimers compilation.

Cheers
Jon
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 03:11 pm:   

Sufjan Stevens - Songs For Christmas ( Volumes One to Five )
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 04:17 pm:   

Yesterday:

I started with two songs, Kev Carmody's "Dark Side" and "Thou Shalt Not Steal," then . . .
The Evangelist
Care--Diamonds and Emeralds
Servants--Reserved
Westlake (Jeff's speed-corrected version).
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   

I'm a latecomer to it, but I'm warming considerable to the eponymous Conor Oberst album.
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skulldisco
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Posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 08:35 pm:   

Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion. Freaking hell, this is mindblowing stuff, these guys are really pushing the envelope.

Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours. The Aus Hot Chip?

Eddie Current Suppression Ring - Primary Colours. The Aus Stooges?
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 02:40 am:   

Randy, I misread Westlake above as Whitesnake. My heart skipped a beat. I'm still shaking in fact.

Right now I'm listening to Mary Gauthier's quite brilliant Mercy Now. One Ewan owns I'd imagine?
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 02:51 am:   

The Blind Boys Of Alabama - Free At Last. It's on a compilation from the Proper label. Others on the comp include Joan Baez, Tim O'Brien, Art Garfunkel and Richard "Milkmaid went a churnin'" Thompson.
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Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 08:44 am:   

'Best of 2008' sampler given with 'Les Inrockuptibles'. It seems I've missed a lot of things in 2008...

http://www.lesinrocks.com/musique/musiqu e-article/article/best-of-2008-nos-50-me illeurs-albums/
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 03:37 pm:   

David Westlake - Westlake
Go-Betweens - Tallulah
The Chills - Submarine Bells
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Randy Adams
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Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 04:24 pm:   

When I'm listening to Whitesnake, Padraig, the body-snatchers have gotten me.
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Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   

Augie March - Watch Me Disappear
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skulldisco
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Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 12:23 am:   

basic channel - enforcement. hard as nails berlin techno. this is 21st century punk

some people say that music hasnt evolved much in the last 30 years, well those people are lazy and deserve the lame music they are force fed. you might say, well you are a go-betweens fan, they are pretty traditional. I would say that i am mainly a fan of robert, and he's as punk rock as they come in his own way
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skulldisco
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Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 01:41 am:   

this has surely been the year of electro pop - cut copy, hercules and love affair, m83, hot chip and mgmt. and out on the fringes there was the bug,crystal castles and ganggangdance. guitar bass and drums still has its place for sure, of course it does, but its becoming increasingly marginalised
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   

Johnny Walkers Shoes - Pigram Brothers. Beautiful Aboriginal blues.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1881
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Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:19 am:   

After going to see an early matinee of the movie "Australia" today I came home and listened to Augie March's "Strange Bird."
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spence
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Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:02 am:   

Kev Yes, sure, in a commercial sense its nice to see different styles of music cutting through,esp electronica etc, however they have always been there, working hard underneath the mainstream, as always, with a few commercial successes under their belt, yo name a few and I know you are ususally the first to spot the newcomers. But as we all know we don't neccessarily demand commercial success for our favourite people? I am still slightly bemused/concerned that people (in general) can't see beyond the music magazine recommendations. There's enough stuff out there, alternative genere's, movements etc. Personally speaking its never been just about geetar, bass and drums. Though trying telling the metal/goth/young indie fraternity that its becoming marginalised, not in their world mate. I suppose in the rap/rnb guitars and drums never been a feature, but rap and rnb has never been a feature here on the board.

The Balamorey theme tune.
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1882
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Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   

Padraig, tell us something about Pigram Brothers.
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Jonathan Evans
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Post Number: 283
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Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 06:39 pm:   

One More Grain - Pigeon English
Don't know what to say about it, its a little strange, so I'll myspace it so you can have a listen.

http://www.myspace.com/onemoregrain

Cheers
Jon
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2523
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 12:42 am:   

Randy, the Pigram Brothers are from Broome, Western Australia. There are seven of them - Alan, Stephen, David, Colin, Philip, Peter and Gavin. I saw Alan and Stephen at the songs of Kev Carmody concert a year ago and thought they were phenomenal. Johnny Walkers Shoes is from their second album Jiir, but I was playing it from the soundtrack to the Australian film The Circuit. I intend to get some more Pigram Brothers music in the mall this afternoon! http://www.pigrambrothers.com.au/
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Post Number: 2524
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 12:43 am:   

Ambient Translations From The Middle Of Nowhere (Companion CD To The Gone Soundtrack) - David Bridie With Christian Scallan And Byron Scullin
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skulldisco
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 09:40 am:   

so whats "the tallest man on earth" like then padraig? swedens answer to bob dylan, big in australia apparently?
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 10:02 am:   

Sorry Kev, no clue!

I imagine you are currently worshipping all things Australian - ie Scott McDonald! What a frickin' goal!
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Post Number: 2526
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 10:18 am:   

The Pirate's Gospel - Alela Diane. First listen and I like it a lot. Robert Forster gave it a great review in The Monthly last year. He bought it while in London recording The Evangelist.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   

yep, the only highlight of a dull game.

the tallest man on earth was unknown to me as well, but my brother in law is over IN Scotland from Cairns and is raving about him. He gets a lot of airtime on Triple J.
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Jonathan Evans
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Post Number: 284
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 06:48 pm:   

Again no one else in work, so its a blast though the CD Collection....
Paul Simon - Anthology
The Kinks - Best of
Inspiral Carpets - Life / Best Of
The Clash - Live At Shea Stadium
A Couple of Punk[ish] compilations
Kraftwerk - The Mix

Some more I can't remember. I love work when its peaceful, unfortunately its not very often like that.

Cheers
Jon
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1883
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 04:16 am:   

Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu--Gurrumul
Kev Carmody--Mirrors.

Geez, I wish they'd finish the neck reset on my 12!
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2527
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:48 am:   

The Bats - The Guilty Office.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:49 am:   

Now listening again to Johnny Walkers Shoes - Pigram Brothers.
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Geoff Holmes
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 06:50 am:   

What's the David Bridie like Padraig? He is VERY prolific(for me anyway) with soundtrack stuff and I've only got the RAN soundtrack which is PERFECT music for humid, hot summers.
Did you get his "rock" album? I've been a bit wary.....
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skulldisco
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 09:32 pm:   

the kids have seized the tv, so blasting out some choons with just under 3 hours till 2009 - aided by a bottle of red vino and some stella triple filtered.

cut copy - hearts on fire (joe, you must be all over this band?)

hercules and love affair - blind

the bug - poison dart

culture - jah jah see them a come 12" discomix

bon iver - skinny love

vampire weekend - a punk

portishead machine gun

the lemonheads - outdoor type

mgmt - time to pretend

pogues - body of an american

the fall - wolf kidult man

m83 - kim and jessie

plastician - beg to differ

animal collective - my girls

joker & rustie - play doe

new order - fine time

the replacements - cant hardly wait

skream - dutch flowers

nomad - prototype
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peter ward
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   

The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound
looking forward to seeing this lot in March.

Finally hooked up my record player following a move and dug out some vinyl over Christmas:
Doolittle-Pixies
Rattlesnakes-Llyod cole
Viva-Roxy Music
Kings of the Wild Frontier- Adam and the Ants
Strangeways-The Smiths
The rise and fall of Ziggy
Songs of Leonard Cohen
Various Orange Juice 12"s
The Perry Como Christmas Album
Christmas with Leontyne Price
Singalong with Max
Beggars Banquet-The Stones
Happy to meet-Horslips
Tapestry-Carole King
Calenture-Triffids
Paradise in the Picture House-The Stunning
Eye-Robyn Hitchcock
Take the skinheads bowling12"-Camper Van Beethoven
Deepest Purple
Who's Next
Best of Gil Scott Heron
Only Life-The Feelies
New Order 12"s esp Thieves like Us
Liberty Belle
Enlightenment -Van Morrisson (I was on my knees at those wireless knobs, it was very late!)
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peter ward
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Post Number: 85
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 09:47 pm:   

Right party going for yourself there Kevin, great choons, can I call over?! On the Cobra extra smooth myself so Cheers! Go mBeirimid beo ar an am seo aris!!and an album by a girl from Kells called Fiona Melady "The Fear I Fear"
Will check into Jools' Hootenanny later on for Martha and the Vandellas.
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skulldisco
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 10:18 pm:   

peter, its short notice for calling in this year but "Go mBeirimid beo ar an am seo aris", if i understand the translation properly you can feel free to joint the party this time next year!!
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 10:37 pm:   

Nice lists there Kevin and Peter. How's that Horslips record holding up Peter?

Geoff, I had never even heard of the movie and TV show that Bridie soundtracked until I picked them up for $10 each in the bargain bin in my local ABC shop. Or if I did hear of them I didn't take any notice. Both soundtracks are very good but the one with the Pigram Brothers and other Indigenous musicians is better. I didn't get his solo record but the last MFTCC album was really good. Yes, he's very prolific alright. I have some of the tracks from that RAN soundtrack which came as a free CD with the Weekend Australian a few years ago.
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Posted on Friday, January 02, 2009 - 04:24 am:   

McCarthy--Banking, Violence & the Inner Life Today
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 1886
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Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 03:26 am:   

The Dentists--Some People Are on the Pitch . . . .

The 1980s go to the 1960s.
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peter ward
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 10:24 pm:   

That Horslips album is from '72 Padraig and not holding up very well. The sleeve is a work of art though, if New Order had wanted to produce something like it then even Tony Wilson would have cracked! It's an octagonal shaped concertina case with ornate cut outs leading through to an eight page colour booklet of Devlin, Carr et all in uber hippy poses. Oats Records, never heard of them other than that release, no mystery there.
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   

Peter, was Oats the bands own record label? I have a vinyl copy of the U.K. release ( 1973? ) and it is on RCA.

Currently listening to If You Change Your City by The Beautiful Few.
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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 12:01 am:   

Hi Hugh,
Don't know if Oats was their own label but I suspect it was, before Horslips Records mid way through their career. It appears they were only responsible for the Irish releases, does your RCA copy have the same artwork? http://www.horslips.ie/discpage.html
I saw Declan Synnot play with Christy Moore last year in my favourite venue in Dublin, Whelans, it was a real thrill and Declan was fantastic on acoustic and fender electric.
I also saw Johnny Fean about five years ago in one of my local pubs in the country, it was more bluesy than Celtic rock for the most part until he played THAT riff and the place went all Italia '90 (Dearg was incorporated into the Irish soccer song for the world cup that year, "Put 'em under pressure"!)
Lockhart is a respected radio producer in one of the national stations here for years, Devlin a filmmaker(also did the "All I want is You" U2 video, monochrome circus thing, very good)and Carr is an Arts journalist on a national evening paper. Too much info Hugh! There was talk of a reformation a number of years ago but it never happened.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 10:39 am:   

Thanks Peter. I used to kind of know Johnny Fean's nephew who was the drummer for a Limerick band called Tuesday Blue. Lovely fella.
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Hugh Nimmo
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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 12:21 pm:   

Peter, although I still have a decent turntable, I no longer use it and my vinyl record collection is boxed and stored in my loft ( in no particular order unfortunately.) I eventually managed to find my copy of the album and the sleeve lists it as M00 3 an OATS record distributed by RCA Limited ( I believe the band released two singles before the album.) The sleeve is exactly as you described. The artwork shown on the link you posted is the rear cover of the album.

I picked up the nine Demon/Edsel CD Re-Issues some years ago. A few of them are now OOP and going for crazy money on Amazon.

Currently listening to The Book Of Invasions: A Celtic Symphony by Horslips.
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Charles Coy
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 02:53 am:   

Padraig, with Hugh's note on Horslips is this available in Australia, please excuse my ignorance
it sounds like something I want to hear and buy..!
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 03:03 am:   

Haven't gotten around to buying it for six months and I'm regretting that just slightly now, as it's damn good: Old 97's "Blame it On Gravity."
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 03:54 am:   

Charles, I've never seen a Horslips record or CD for sale in Australia, but I've never particularly looked for them either. A second hand record shop might be the best bet, but don't hold your breath. I don't have anything by them unfortunately.

Right now I'm listening to Electric Arguments by The Fireman and it's great. I may have to revise my best of 2008 list yet again...
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 03:15 pm:   

Hey, Allen, I've been thinking about buying that Old 97s CD. Like you, probably, I was a huge fan circa "Fight Songs" and "Satellite Rides" and fell off the wagon around the time of Miller's second solo move and the band's poorly reviewed previous record. All of a sudden, though, I'm hearing all this praise for "Blame It On Gravity," months after it came out. Sounds like I'll have return to the '97s fold. I'm going to San Francisco for a meeting this week so I plan a CD splurge and maybe this'll be included.
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   

Yeah, I'd say it's got the magic in it, Rob. I liked Miller's second solo record too, even though I agree with thoughts that the words and tunes were sometimes a little too knowingly hooky and not quite as deep as he seemed to think. But this one's got plenty of interesting lyrical shadings to go with some truly lovely tunes.
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Allen Belz
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 03:48 pm:   

Oh, and it rocks very well, too.

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