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     Jodi Alexander Member Username: Jodi Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2005 |
Robert, I'm a huge fan and have been for many years. Would you please play at my 40th birthday at our Property in Kin Kin in March 2007. The property is 11 acres with a huge shed overlooking the green lush hills of Kin Kin (2 hours north of Brisbane). Please bring families and stay. Love the new album. Just received it today for mothers day. I have made the family listen and dance to it all day. Jodi | ||
| Rob Member Username: Rob Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2004 |
Jodi, I love your chutzpah but if you get him/them to say yes everybody will want the same treatment. On the other hand you could just invite the list en bloc. There'd be a few entertaining stoushes. And a few interminable rants. | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2005 |
I have to ask. What's a stoush(e)? | ||
| Rob Member Username: Rob Post Number: 28 Registered: 12-2004 |
It's a fight, Peter. the word may be of Gaelic origin?? | ||
| Cichli Suite Member Username: Cichli_suite Post Number: 53 Registered: 08-2004 |
I don't think it has a gaelic origin. I couldn't resist looking it up though. Word origins can be fascinating. I got the following from: Glossary of WWI slang Stoush: Fight; to strike; defeat. General Australian. From 1893 (AND). Attested in numerous sources. The term derived from the British dialect ‘stashie’, ‘stushie’, meaning ‘an uproar, disturbance, quarrel’. It was adapted to apply to ‘a war’. In particular, World War I was known as ‘The Big Stoush’. Actually, according to the following, Irish words are under-represented in Australian English. The Vocabulary of Australian English. It's not clear if the author means pure gaelic words or words from an irish-english dialect (often derived from or influenced by gaelic) Nice word, though: 'stoush' : it does what is says on the label. | ||
| James Member Username: James Post Number: 13 Registered: 05-2005 |
Are you sure you don't mean Celtic instead of Gaelic? | ||
| Cichli Suite Member Username: Cichli_suite Post Number: 54 Registered: 08-2004 |
No, I don't mean 'Celtic'. | ||
| James Member Username: James Post Number: 14 Registered: 05-2005 |
Ok I defer to your greater knowledge of the subject. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2005 |
Though I lived in Australia for the whole year of 1992 (bar about three weeks), and visited again in 1999 and 2002, I never heard the word stoush used until I moved back here later in 2002. Though it is obviously an old word, I wonder if it is one that has only come back into vogue in recent years. Another word that is new to me is the use of tragic to describe a person's (generally male) love for something. Eg. "he's a cricket tragic". I like neither the word stoush not tragic used in that context. My dislike of the latter is down to it being a poor use of language and poverty of expression. My dislike of the former is down to my introduction to the word when someone said to me "I know we had a stoush in the past..." I had to ask someone else what the hell he was on about! So, Rob, as Cichli Suite has already pointed out, stoush is not Irish or Gaelic in origin. And on the topic, Cichli, the Irish influence here is quite strong in place names, though not in the language itself. In the Northern Beaches area of Sydney that I live the next suburb to mine is called Clontarf (though they put the emphasis on the first syllable rather than the other way around as it is for the Dublin suburb) and there is also a Killarney Heights nearby, which features an Adare St, presumably called after the village I am from in Co Limerick. My favourite though is Innisfail (pronounced exactly as spelt rather than Innish-fawl as we Irish would pronounce it). People are always amazed when I tell them that Innisfail (http://www.gspeak.com.au/Innisfail/) means Island of Destiny in Gaelic! What a beautiful, poetic name to give an inland town! - though what a pity the original meaning is now utterly lost. Slightly off the boil, Cichli, but have you heard that Dingle, Co Kerry has been told to change its official (rather than merely Gaelic) name to An Daingean or else remove itself from being a designated Gaeltacht area and all the attendant tax breaks that come with that. Madness. | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2005 |
So is it pronounced 'stowsh' (the 'o' as in cow) or stoosh, or neither? I stayed in Clontarf Ireland once. Nice place. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2005 |
Pronounced 'stowsh' (the 'o' as in cow), Peter. Glad Chelsea won the league by the way. Even more glad Liverpool won the European Cup! Did you, or anyone, see Elvis Costello's wonderful article in The Times about Liverpool's win? It's called Fretting while the scarlet tide make history and you can still read it for free at the Times website (www.timesonline.co.uk) by doing a search for Elvis Costello. | ||
| Mark Tuffield Member Username: Mark_t Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2005 |
Is the word “stocious” related ? I have it on reliable authority (my mum and dad) that someone who is stocious has had too much to drink. My mum used it in relation to a group of lads seen at the races the other evening, who were drunk and looked like they were about to have a fight. My dad also suggests that a “stocious scoffy” is a greedy drunk, scoffy from scoff as in “he scoffed the lot.” Ah basking in a blue glow – now if only Aldershot Town could get out of the Conference all would be well with the world ! | ||
| Peter Collins Member Username: Tyroneshoelaces Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2005 |
Padraig. I didn't really mind Liverpool winning the European Cup too much, but I did object to the media taking that club's side to the extent it did. The (Manchester, let's not forget) Guardian ran an extremely mawkish piece about why we should all be scousers for one day - when I contacted the writer about why there was such a bias he said that the reason he wanted Liverpool (at the time, 18 league titles and four European Cups) to beat Chelsea (at the time, one league title and no European Cups) was that he didn't want the same old teams winning trophies all the time. You couldn't make it up. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 80 Registered: 08-2004 |
It's probably natural for the media to side with a relative underdog in these situations. Liverpool are more popular now because they are no longer a dominant force in football. Although their cup record is still very enviable. Chelsea had the Premiership in the bag by then so it makes sense that people would want to side with them. A more even spread of trophies is ultimately better for the game. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 81 Registered: 08-2004 |
Mark, it would be good to see Aldershot back up in the football league again, they would have earned it after the way things fell apart before. | ||
| John Flood Member Username: Floodjo Post Number: 15 Registered: 05-2005 |
Nice Elvis article, Padraig (sorry - no fada!). Like that chat about "stocious" earlier - love the word. Never realised it was Irish until I started to use it elsewhere. It doesn't sound Irish at all - at least not to me.... Another great Irish favourite of mine is press ("cupboard") and especially hot press! I still insist on using them. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2005 |
John, I think the Irish have as many words for being drunk as the Eskimos allegedly have for snow. | ||
| James Member Username: James Post Number: 16 Registered: 05-2005 |
Liverpool..pah, the best team lost |