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XY765
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Post Number: 578
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 08:36 am:   

Think we did this for the Go-Betweens but not off-topic..

'In 1984 I was hospitalized for approaching perfection, slowly screwing my way across Europe, they had to make an exception' - Random Rules, Silver Jews.

'You can never give the finger to the blind' - The Slide Song, Luna.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 271
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   

"got me a movie
i want you to know
slicing up eyeballs
i want you to know
girlie so groovy
i want you to know" - pixies, debaser

"Blind date with the chancer
we had oysters and dry lancers
and the check when it arrived we went dutch, dutch, dutch, dutch
a redder shade of neck on a whiter shade of trash
And this emory board is giving me a rash" - pavement, shady lane

"Looking at your watch a third time waiting in the station for a bus
Going to a place that's far, so far away and if that's not enough
Going where nobody says hello, they don't talk to anybody they don't know" - REM, Dont Go Back To Rockville

"Stained glass windows keep the cold outside
While the hypocrites hide inside
With the lies of statues in their minds
Where the Christian religion
made them blind
Where they hide
And prey to the God of a bitch spelled backwards is dog
Not for one race, one creed, one world
But for money
Effective
Absurd"

- PIL, Religion

"Well my mama she didn't 'low me, just to stay out all night long, oh Lord
Well my mama didn't 'low me, just to stay out all night long
I didn't care what she didn't 'low, I would boogie-woogie anyhow" - John Lee Hooker, Boogie Chillun
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joe
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Username: Dogmansuede

Post Number: 644
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 02:34 pm:   

i first saw you
you had on blue jeans
your eyes couldn't hide
anything

big star/this mortail coil/whomever else - kangaroo. a lyric i could never conceivably tire of.
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joe
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Post Number: 645
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 02:35 pm:   

also, on topic i guess, but bachelor kisses gets to me each and every time.
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spence
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Post Number: 3208
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 03:01 pm:   

The Clientele - Losing Haringey:
"In those days, there was a kind of fever that pushed me out of the front door, into the pale, exhaust-fumed park by Broadwater Farm or the grubby road that eventually leads to Enfield: turkish supermarket after chicken restaurant after spare car part shop. Everything in my life felt like it was coming to a mysterious close: I could hardly walk to the end of a street without feeling there was no way to go except back. The dates I’d had that summer had come to nothing, my job was a dead end and the rent cheque was killing me a little more each month. It seemed unlikely that anything could hold much longer. The only question left to ask was what would happen after everything familiar collapsed, but for now the summer stretched between me and that moment.

Blue Aeroplanes - Jacket hangs: Pick a card, any card - wrong!

House of love - Girl with the lonliest eyes: The girl with the lonliest eyes, is coming down the road, and I'm nevr coming back, oh no, oh no.

Aztec Camera - Just like gold: Over field and hills waits a train for us, but we're here beacause, and I'm counting, up to 9 again, up to 9 gain, that;s how long it lasts...

Bowie - Heroes: I
I will be king
And you
You will be queen
Though nothing will
Drive them away
We can beat them
Just for one day
We can be Heroes
Just for one day

The Monkees - What am i doing hanging round? :
Just a loud mouth Yankee I went down to Mexico.
I didn't have much time to spend, about a week or so.
There I lightly took advantage of a girl who loved me so.
But I found myself a-thinkin' when the time had come to go...

The Winnebago orchestra - What does your heart say?
Now the water has run dry, and we've said our goodbyes, do you know what happened, why? What does your heart say?
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spence
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Post Number: 3209
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 03:01 pm:   

Kev, I always love listening to the opening lines on Debaser too!
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Randy Adams
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Post Number: 2037
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 05:15 pm:   

I hate to beat Jeff to this because, after all, he's the one who introduced me to it but I don't know if there will EVER be another opening line to beat out

"I drink gin like a 1960s wino . . . ."
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Pádraig Collins
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Post Number: 2906
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 02:27 am:   

Kev, I always thought that line was:

"Girl you're so groovy,
I want you to know"

It always will be in my head anyway.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 278
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 04:01 am:   

I thought so too Padraig, and until a few years ago I always thought it was "slicing up bibles" which is just as good as "slicing up eyeballs".
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spence
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Post Number: 3212
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 11:02 am:   

Randy, perfect choice! trust you to hit hard with a simple, classic one linber, whilst the likes of me, print paragraph intros!

Wire - map ref:
An unseen ruler defines with geometry
An unrulable expanse of geography
An aerial photographer over-exposed To the cartologist's 2D images knows
The areas where the water flowed
So petrified, the landscape grows
Straining eyes try to understand
The works, incessantly in hand
The carving and paring of the land
The quarter square, the graph divides
Beneath the rule a country hides
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 03:03 pm:   

spence, seeing your reference to map ref reminded me that the bold alfredo did a retrospective review of 154 by Wire in Stylus. the review included such gems as "In essence, 154 is not entertaining. Plenty of its songs are awful, or worse.", and sums up in the final paragraph by concluding "So: three good songs, lots of Kabuki."

154 was possibly the best album in the golden year of 1979 imo, the year that is without doubt my favourite ever year for music.

You're at the wind up Alfredo arent you?
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XY765
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Post Number: 582
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   

I have MBV doing a cover of Wire's Map Ref on the computer. Don't know the original so can't say if it's interecting or not.

I like 'slicing up bibles'..
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spence
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Post Number: 3213
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   

KEV i like all the Wire albums, there's something fro everyone on all of em, Pink Flag still fires me up, Chairs Missing and 154 intrigue me.
1979, cool, it even looks cool when typed eh? 1 9 7 9 !
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David Gagen
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 08:39 pm:   

Couple from Bob!

Once upon a time you dressed so fine
Threw the bums a dime, didnt you?

I married Isis on the 5th day of May
But I could not hold on to her very long

Seen the arrow on the doorpost
Saying this land is condemned
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andreas
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Post Number: 745
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 09:04 pm:   

you can call at least the first three wire albums three perfect strokes of genius. 154 is one of the great albums. that shows - with reference to alfredo- taste differs, taste overlaps, individuals as we are are.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 09:24 pm:   

Agreed Andreas, but what stumped me was reading the review it seemed Alfredo was a Wire fan, so to not like 154 seemed strange, a bit like a Go-Bs fan not liking 16LL

oh, hang on.. - i see what you mean ;-)
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spence
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Post Number: 3217
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Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 09:44 pm:   

I don't particularly like 16ll as a whole. Even at the time, as shsllow as this sounds, the cover said it all, too slick, trying to project this band in such a way was wrong, even before vinyl toucdown of 16LL i knew, save for streets which i already knew and adored, thst it would br my least fave album, my gut told me then and its kinda tells me so now too. I like a few of the tunes, but its initial showing left me in a state of disrepair!
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joe
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Post Number: 651
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 03:57 am:   

i've always thought all of their covers were a bit 'eh. i mean fine and interesting, especially for fans, but not going to elicit the same level of immediate/new attention as a born sandy devotional, or something.

send me a lullaby is pretty neat, but 16LL is my favourite gbs sleeve.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 281
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 04:17 am:   

funny how tastes differ spence. streets of our town is my least favourite song on my least favourite go-bs album.
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joe
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Post Number: 652
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 07:08 am:   

it's my least favourite song off kev's least favourite gbs album too. never quite got it. the song, that is. kev seems like good people.

clouds or you can't say no forever or dive for your memory in a heartbeat!
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joe
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Post Number: 653
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 07:09 am:   

actually, another nice mid-8. and again, the song.
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Geoff Holmes
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Post Number: 515
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 07:47 am:   

The debaser line is reference to the movie Salvador Dali made, Un Chien Andalou, where he looked like he was going to slice up someones eye.
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spence
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Post Number: 3218
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 09:20 am:   

The songs from 16ll that have been represented in all their forms (since the album was released) by mssrs Forster and McLennan have gone down very well with me like the live versions etc. Clouds at the tivoli were lovely etc.
kev, streets was the first thing I heard from 16ll in its single release format, it was summer, or nearly and it was slick yes, but i loved it. i don;t feel they ever recreated the magic of SOYT live.
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spence
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Post Number: 3219
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 09:31 am:   

I have mellowed a lot over the years, disgusting ain;t it! But I've never melklowed enough to embrace 16LL.

Joe, the covers to GB's album back in the day, as a massive fan, for me were hugely important, as important as the music on the vinyl, the cover held. They had to be cool, and I think they were. They are now classic pieces of art i would gladly mount and frame upion my wall. Remember these were the days where you'd slaver over the cover and all its details whilst lying on your bed listening to the greatness that came out of the speakers! Covers mean much less now, but that's another story. the covers, they were all cool up to 16LL IMHO. Esp Liberty cover, the way they looked on that sleeve, was at the time what me and my friends wanted to look like, we wanted to be that cool, like television on the cobver of Marquee moon, however, there was no way I was gonna wear leather trousers in knee length motorcycle boots like ol grant could carry off! I thought the 4 albums prior to 16 including the Metal import, I mean they looked the business on that one and all the others, the imagery suited the music on each and every one of those albums. Re triffids covers, say Born, I think that sorta sums up the triffids doesn;t it, wghere as a treeless plain wouldn't do it on a GB's album sleeve, not for me anyway.
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 282
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 12:50 pm:   

speaking as we were of the pixies, and album covers, the cover for surfer rosa is amazing. erotic,classy - never smutty or crude, which of course was at odds with the contents of the lyrics on the album.
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XY765
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Post Number: 585
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 12:58 pm:   

Lord, help me out
I’d take my life, but I'm in doubt
Just where my soul will lie
Deep in the Earth or way up in the sky

- Lord, Can You Hear Me - Spacemen 3
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spence
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Post Number: 3221
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 02:12 pm:   

Surfer Rosa cover Kev, it is very stylish, never distasteful and full of mystery, though I thik is related quite strongly with the theme throughout the album I think, like the Spanish lyrics here and there, the woman looks like Spanish, the dress indicates Spanish flamenco or similar, the fact she's semi naked, connects with the voyeuristic lyrics, the backgroind is quite disturbing which goes with a lot of Black's subject matter, it looks like a backroom bar/brothel in a small church. IMHO! :-)
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skulldisco
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Post Number: 283
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 05:47 pm:   

Bending the lyrics theme just slightly, i heard a song by the killers on the radio there. dont know the name of the song but its the one that has what are potentially the most mind numbing lyrics in an age - "Ive got soul, but Im not a soldier".
Give me strength, and this band are headlining major festivals in the UK this month and last, well they say you get what you deserve :-). And whats with the name? The Killers implies a certain amount of danger, well not with this shower of poseurs. In a way bands like this annoy me more than James Blunt, Phil Collins, Crowded House etc and thats saying something!!
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Jeff Whiteaker
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Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 06:15 pm:   

"Pink Press Rats!"
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joe
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Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 11:14 pm:   

i get that spence, they do look amazing on the LB cover (and the inserts/other shots from the same shoot), but it seems a bit more studied - appealing to fans who are able to easily make the link between the contents, aesthetic and visual representation. the tallulah cover i find particularly compelling in terms of the goings on in the band, etc.

my friends and i feel the same way about elastica. i maintain the best looking band i've ever laid eyes upon. who still sound pretty great too.

speaking of which...

no need to whine, boy,
like a wind-up toy you stutter at my feet,
and it's never the time, boy,
you've had too much wine to stumble up my street.
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Pádraig Collins
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 02:11 am:   

Friends of mine who are brothers had to turn the cover of their Surfer Rosa cassette inside out so their mother didn't accidentally see it. She would have freaked and cast them out as pervy demons! (Sounds like a lyric from the album there...)
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XY765
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Post Number: 593
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:08 am:   

The cover of Surfer Rosa is fantastic, that one was always better on 12" :-)

Favourite cover of the GBs always was 78-90. Got this on vinyl when it was released and for me is the epitome of the GBs.

Back on topic, the almighty scream at the start of The Sonic's Pscycho...these guys never seem to get the praise they deserved. Never heard of the Wipers but they're from the same area of the US as the Sonics, The Sonic's time though was the early to mid 60s I think...
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spence
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:26 am:   

joe, really elastica the best looking band!? that would make a good thread... :-)
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joe
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Post Number: 657
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:34 am:   

seriously. anyone with any taste either wanted to be or do donna. me, more of a justine fella. i mean her choice of blokes alone...
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Jerry Clark
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Post Number: 945
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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 05:57 pm:   

Inspired by the lack of love for The Doors & LK's distinct love of LA Woman. How about this beauty.

"Well I've been down so god damn long/that it looks looks up to me"
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Michael Bachman
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Post Number: 1528
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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 06:27 pm:   

From the other end of the lyric sheet:

"I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours,"
I said that
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Jerry Clark
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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   

You didn't say that, MB.
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Michael Bachman
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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 08:04 pm:   

Says Who?

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