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     skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 296 Registered: 10-2008 |
roxy music, well more specifically bryan ferry. can there ever be a band whose singer totally destroyed the beautiful music played by his band mates? those first 2 or 3 albums are musically great but i just cant abide ferry warbling all over the songs, and as for those facial expressions he made on the tv clips i just want to thump him one. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2046 Registered: 03-2005 |
Excellent thread idea. The list could be endless of course. Here are a few that jump to mind. The Clash. I think the song "London Calling" is great and there are a handful of other tracks I like but I cannot sit through an entire Clash LP. I have to go do the laundry or pull weeds in the yard or cut my hair. They just don't engage me. REM. Stipe was supposedly inspired by one of my favorites, Gene Clark. And I love 12 string guitar. But I find REM unimaginative at best. They stumbled onto one sound and then beat it to death. The Doors. Silly undergraduate LSD-inspired "poetry" coupled with musical backing nicked from lower-budget Sunset Strip denizens The Seeds. I prefer the to-the-core moronic ravings of Sky Saxon, RIP. Grateful Dead. Their acid trips and mine never overlapped at all. Arcade Fire. Great spectacle on stage. But I can't listen to them at home. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 943 Registered: 08-2004 |
Magazine - Devoto sounds like an actor, thesping on a muso stereotype. Maybe you had to be there. Beach Boys - Never been a fan. Pet Sounds is average, early singles are overfamiliar. The Beatles - It's like shooting fish in a barrel slagging them off. Everything I've heard of theirs has been disposable. Nothing ever grabbed me & made me curious to hear more. What's more, every Beatles fan I've ever met has been so obsessed they'd disregard every other band/artist. (the same goes for Elvis Presley lovers) The kind of people who'd have one of those horrific mirrors with theire favourites on. | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1525 Registered: 01-2005 |
Husker Du - It could be that I never listened to them enough to have given them a fair shot, but they never grabbed me like the 'mats did right from the start. Dave Matthews Band - Average acoustic guitar player and the songs all sound the same. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1669 Registered: 10-2004 |
I know we've done this before somewhere, I swear... but wow, I LOVE Bryan Ferry's voice, for what it's worth. Radiohead - I simply can't trust the tastes of anyone who likes this band. Where are the tunes? Oh wait, there aren't any! I'm definitely with Randy on the Grateful Dead. I grew up with parents who were obsessed with the Dead. Rough times. The Band. Dull, pedestrian, safe, slightly annoying, cliche-riddled folksy-country-rawk hippie crap. I scratch my head every time I read an article in which Grant or Robert speak lovingly of them. Belle & Sebastian - I do like the first two albums okay, but they're strictly average. I find everything else by them to be trite, overly polite, and dull. Music for overly sensitive college-aged trust-fund hipsters. Wedding Present - blah, blah, blah.... Beck - the music simply doesn't engage. Bruce... Agreed about Arcade Fire, though I've never seen 'em live. Agred about the Doors, too, although I will embarrass myself and admit that I think the jazzy organ chords played by Manzarek in the verses of "Light My Fire" are lovely. Randy - you are so wrong about REM!!! :-) Well, you're both right and wrong. At least for me, they made two brilliant, highly imaginative, super melodic albums and one EP, and *then* ran out of ideas and locked onto a self-parodic sound and beat it to death. What I don't get, and where I'm totally with you Randy, are the hordes of people who take seriously REM's work over the past 20 years. Uninspired MOR, to these ears. | ||
| frank bascombe Member Username: Frankb Post Number: 435 Registered: 01-2007 |
Beachboys Doors Roxy Music didn't think of mentioning this as off the radar Animal Collective --just can't get in to them have tried | ||
| Duncan Hurwood Member Username: Duncan_h Post Number: 109 Registered: 05-2005 |
To be honest I don't get many other bands at all, and the list of the ones I do like is far shorter than the ones I don't like. Usually a band will do a single I like maybe, but I don't get the rest of their stuff. On the plus side for Jerry I quite like some of the Beatles, and some of what Elvis Presley did: but I'm no huge fan of either. | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 2925 Registered: 05-2005 |
Randy, I used to think that of The Clash too, but then one day about a decade ago I saw the Clash on Broadway box set going for a reasonable price and was converted. I'm with you on The Doors and Arcade Fire. R.E.M have made more great records than most other bands. Their second last album was maybe the worst record ever made by a great band though. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 516 Registered: 05-2005 |
Didn't we do this about 4 years ago? I remember listing (nearly) every thing that Kevin loved (except the Fall)... ..and he visa versa! STILL don't get why Bowie was SO huge and influential (some classic singles though), BROOOOOOOCE, Nick Cave is way too seriously up his own sphincter.....now who have I offended NOW!!!!????? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 301 Registered: 10-2008 |
geoff, not sure we dedicated a whole thread to this but yeah i think there was some discussion on this. regarding cave, im a fan but sometimes think he ruins the songs performed by the bad seeds, a bit like ferry did with roxy's songs. i doubt there is any core group of musicians as talented as the bad seeds are. cave and his musicians are also incredibly prolific this decade, i heard on the radio today another grinderman album is imminent. must admit i prefer it when they rock out a bit, assuming thats what grinderman is all about - a chance to get away from the piano based stuff. | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 665 Registered: 07-2006 |
i'm enlisting in camp roxy too. i love avalon...one of the dreamiest records in my collection, but the rest leaves me pretty much cold. | ||
| Victor Edwin Prose Member Username: Victor_prose Post Number: 32 Registered: 04-2009 |
Though it's probably because I haven't spent enough time with each of their albums, and though it's no positive reflection on me, I always have a hard time at first with Sleater-Kinney. There's TOO little overt melody, I don't always find the lyrics particularly impressive, and I tend to like Carrie Brownstein's vocals and writing more than I do Corin Tucker's, which I know isn't the point, which means I'm missing something. I love a lot of their stuff, but they definitely don't come as easily as you'd expect the former "greatest band in the world" to. The New Pornographers have taken me a long time, too. For a band that's so melodically insistent it bothers me that they tend to leave me unriveted; I have a feeling it's something to do with the fact that said melodies tend to feel borrowed and unemotional, not to mention the insularity of the lyrics. When did writing completely arcane and impenetrable lyrics become synonymous with being "alt" or "indie"? Bearing in mind I don't find most pre-90s indie lyrics arcane. Dylan is not impenetrable. Creedence Clearwater Revival took me the longest of all the "great" 60s bands to start enjoying; I can hear what's there, and get into it, but it took some self-schooling. I'm not really an unfettered "rock & roll" guy - though I adore Chuck Berry and The Sun Sessions & Little Richard and whatnot, so who knows what it is. I don't like or admire the Doors, but I'm not unable to get into specific moments, and I'll grant that a lot of LA Woman (though not "L'America") is neither pretentious nor ridiculous. I love Husker Du, the Minutemen, Meat Puppets, Saccharine Trust, et al., but still have a lot of trouble enjoying Black Flag. An obviously great record that literally puts me to sleep: Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs. An obviously great group that literally puts me to sleep: Sonic Youth. I love Paul Westerberg but am not so keen on Paul Weller. The 4AD ambient stuff bugs me to pieces - Bauhaus, Dead Can Dance, This Mortal Coil, most of the Cocteau Twins. Daft Punk sounds, to me, like Air sans wit. And, though I really like "The Seabirds", I have a lot of trouble figuring out what makes Born Sandy Devotional the greatest independent Australian album of all time, or "Wide Open Road" a, you know, good song. Which reminds me of another one I'll never get: The Church. As vapid, dull, and pretentious as The Cure or Depeche Mode (though granted, neither play music at all similar to one another). I have little doubt Steve Kilbey is what kills those Jack Frost albums for me. And I've always really loved Roxy Music, particularly early Roxy Music. And (naturally) solo Eno, and These Foolish Things. And "Dance Away" and Avalon. The end. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 302 Registered: 10-2008 |
LK, my problem with Born Sandy Devotional, and its a small one, is the sound of the record. it sounds like shit, horrible drum sound. thats why i think the 80s suffer as a decade, so many records just sound terrible. some jazz records from the 50s, and loads of albums from the 60 and 70s just sound great compared to the following decades tinny, shiny, metallic crud. | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 946 Registered: 08-2004 |
Roxy always sounded good. Even in the disco years. Ferry makes those songs sound great. 'Same Old Scene' for instance is as much a joyous slice of danceable pop as 'Psalm' is an emotive brooding epic. I wonder if there is 1 record or band we could all get together & agree is a bona fide 10/10. Maybe VU & N. I would have said London Calling, but there's a discrepancy there already, cheers Randy. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 304 Registered: 10-2008 |
Murmer? Marquee Moon? | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 947 Registered: 08-2004 |
Well yeah, Kev. They are possibilities. Sadly R.E.M. get bad feedback for a start. How about Man Machine? Exile On Main Street? | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1529 Registered: 01-2005 |
Remain In Light? Third/Sister-Lovers? Forever Changes? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2047 Registered: 03-2005 |
Uh oh. Well, just dismiss me as a party pooper. I was already walking away from the Rolling Stones with their dull live album "Get Yer Ya Ya's Out" and "Sticky Fingers." I have NEVER been able to get the appeal of "Exile." Too many drugs before they hit the "record" button exacerbated by the usual double LP jinx. I pulled out Murmur for a listen about 3 years ago and was blown away at how dated and unimportant it sounded. And while I definitely enjoy "Marquee Moon" I'm not prepared to put it in the top ranks, probably because I only have so much of an appetite for long tracks and that album's got plenty of them. Plus Verlaine always sounds a little bit like the Cars' lead singer--what's his name?--and I hate the Cars. These are admittedly capricious gripes. So my vote for the one we all might agree on is VU & N. Which is and has always been an incomparable collection. The material careens from dark and dangerous to beguiling to downright pop and then always back to some variant of dark and dangerous, all played in my favorite inept shambolic style. And Nico must be the prototype for Patsy on "Absolutely Fabulous." She is frightening. VU & N made me want to move to NYC and start shooting up. Commenting on LK's interesting entry: I've yet to actually hear Sleater Kinney. New Pornographers have the same effect on me that LK describes. They're immediately attractive but somehow I never play the disc again. I grew up with Creedence, first as the Golliwogs when I lived in the Bay Area. (Check out their "Brown Eyed Girl" and their original version of "Walk on the Water.") Their singles were incomparable but their albums were not and for me they started losing interest value somewhere around 1970 or so. It was always tough to listen to the trashcan lid sound of Doug Clifford's snare drum. Seriously, that single element used to drive me crazy. Layla and other giant boring records of that sort just exemplify the reason I stopped listening to new releases in the 1970s--except for reggae--until the punk wave arrived. We'll always disagree about BSD but I see that as an almost chemical reaction. If it doesn't happen for you, then that's it and there's no point in forcing it. (Probably like me and REM). There's a tiny chance that a familiarity with earlier Triffids stuff would help but that's a tiny chance. | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2048 Registered: 03-2005 |
Michael's suggestions came in while I was putting together my endless blah-blah entry. I haven't heard "Remain in Light" for years but I suspect it will still sound great to me. I love Big Star's "Third" but I'm betting some other people will not. I like "Forever Changes" but I don't personally love it. | ||
| Victor Edwin Prose Member Username: Victor_prose Post Number: 33 Registered: 04-2009 |
What about something as blaringly obvious as Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 or Blonde on Blonde? Or have they all been disqualified by some reactionary? Those send and fulfill me to a greater degree than Velvets/Nico. Or, hell, this being a Go-Betweens board... (though I suppose there's no GBs record of VU/N or Marquee Moon quality, is there?) Forever Changes is okay, but isn't it strange how the sole transcendent song on the album isn't even by the group's driving force? By the way, Out Of Time is, for me, undismissable [sic?] R.E.M., but I have no doubt even fewer people will get on board with that if they don't like Murmur. And though it seems to content you folks to address me as LK (sort of heightens my sense of acceptance, actually), I would like to reiterate (strictly for honesty's sake) that I'm not, and have never been, Little Keith (nor have I ever aspired to be!). | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2051 Registered: 03-2005 |
Ok, then you're VEP. For whatever reason, I assumed we were leaving the GoBees out of this particular exercise.. Re the Dylan albums, their high marks are very high but they all suffer from those boring Dylan pseudo-blues workouts. I give those the skip button every time. I fail to see how disqualifying them renders someone "reactionary" btw. Let's give the name-calling a rest. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 308 Registered: 10-2008 |
you dont fool me lk/vep, funny that you are also an dylan fan. also, unless you were a long time lurker before posting as vep you wouldnt know lk stood for little keith | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 2933 Registered: 05-2005 |
That's what I was going to say Kevin! And what does undismissable mean LK? Is that a good or bad thing? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 310 Registered: 10-2008 |
i think undismissable means excellent or classic the way that lk intends it, although out of time is none of these things. its where rem really lost it for me, and i'm not just talking about shiny happy bollocks | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 2937 Registered: 05-2005 |
I love Out Of Time Kevin, including Shiny Happy People. Don't be afraid of the pop! (See also your reference to The Jayhawks...) | ||
| Ewan Talisker McEwan Member Username: Ewan_mcewan Post Number: 567 Registered: 02-2008 |
Nor have I ever aspired to be you, ye precious little bastid! | ||
| Ewan Talisker McEwan Member Username: Ewan_mcewan Post Number: 568 Registered: 02-2008 |
ps - I think Dylan totally walks on f-ing water! I would take his lowliest, shittiest, most obvious 12-bar blues workout over the complete, combined works of the Fall, Fleet Foxes, Orange Juice, Triffins or whatever the hell they're called, the Low Ball Anthems, etc., every group from Aus except the GoGurts and Paul Kelly, Magazine and the whole 4AD (or, as I think of it, 4 Special E.D.) label! | ||
| Victor Edwin Prose Member Username: Victor_prose Post Number: 35 Registered: 04-2009 |
Precious or pretentious? Golly! My comments were totally misinterpreted as, like, bile-filled. I meant them to be candy-filled! Randy Adams, you're one of my favorite posters, please don't misinterpret my words as proverbial fightin' ones. 1) I don't mind being called LK, as I said, it's neat. It's not like VEP is my real name, either; I figured it was a sort of inverted "don't call me Shirley!" bit. BTW, obviously I'm familiar with the LK acronym from having perused the boards, and from having been called Little Keith in a, y'know, previous post. Then coupled with the fact that, er, I know which letters begin both words in "Little" and "Keith". And I also acknowledge that nobody has any way to prove whether or not I am this silly gentleman of yore. 2) Is "reactionary" a slur? Can't it be a raving complement in some circumstances? Anyhow, I have sometimes incorrectly assumed that terms like "blasphemous" and "you wrongheaded f*cks" were assumed to be insincere and unvenemous (a word I just coined, a la undismiss[a/i]ble) in discussions about albums - as when skulldisco/spence (I get them confused) calls R.E.M.'s gorgeous AIDS lament "Shiny Happy Bollocks", and the "bollocks" (offensive in other parts of the world, yeah?) is instantly neverminded! Even if a friend of mine died of AIDS and the song makes me sob like Grant during "Apology Accepted" every time out! [NOTE: purely hypothetical]. Albums obviously aren't life and death situations. (But Dylan's are!!!) The word reactionary, used casually, felt like it applied to records that, to me, in my world of strict personal opinion, have innate lifesaving powers. (You wrongheaded f*cks!) 3) I recognize that "off-topic" land is a place to get away from the Go-Betweens - but they do COUNT musohistorically, they did exist, so it seemed logical to suggest that if the topic's posters might agree on a GBs album as universally great, though I acknowledged the argument as fallacious within the post (even fans recognize the imperfection of the albums, and, it appears, hold no consensus as to which are perfect and which aren't). Nevertheless, I understand it being in poor taste to make mention of them on the Tired Of The Go-Betweens Board. All apologies! Apology accepted? 4) I didn't even hear said unmentionable band until June 2006 - if Diminutive K. posted here prior to that, my name is cleared of all LK charges! (Little Keith, no offense.) Irony-free, V. Prose | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 950 Registered: 08-2004 |
VEP, have you got a little brother called Keith, or Hardin? Undismissive is one those grammarous unmistakes LK would have like: Agreeance, for instance.  For the record Out Of Time might well be the best album of all time. I like it a lot Shiny Happy Bollocks & all, it's certainly a more pleasant listen than Automatic FTP. Which I also like. You see I'd give The Wedding Present's George Best 11/10. It's too perfect even in the modern incarnation with extra songs, cos they're all pretty much the same. Breakneck speed, words of lost love, miserable voice. It's preaching to the converted to these ears. It's true they never bettered it. How could they 12/10 has never happened. It's heartening that no-one's dared mention The Beatles. I'd go along with Remain In Light as a 10. Also Forever Changes. Unknown Pleasures, Closer, Bitches Brew, What's Going On? Anyone? | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 311 Registered: 10-2008 |
i'll give you Closer but not Unknownn Pleasures Jerry. as for George Best being 11/10 even Gedge would probably laugh if you tried to give it an 8. i'd give it a 6. Remain in light? maybe a 9, because of that dirge on side 2 whose title escapes me. Kind of blue - thats a 10 for me. i have Bitches Brew but think its one of those albums to admire rather than love. | ||
| Victor Edwin Prose Member Username: Victor_prose Post Number: 36 Registered: 04-2009 |
It's probably indismissable, if there even is a negativized (look, there's another one) version of "dismissable". All this percodan [sic: caps?] is getting to me. Both Keith & Hardin, as well as Keith Hardin are locked in heated debate as to which one is my biological father, and are now on a cross-country tour in search of me, having unwatchable adventure after unwatchable adventure. Remain in Light is fantastic, but one would hope something a little less esoteric/more universal would stand as the point of agreement. Joy Division could've been better, I think, and all I've heard of the Wedding Present (Tommy, likely not the ideal representation) is hardly earth-shattering. Bitches Brew is magnificent, but isn't jazz a critical world all its own? Kind of Blue & A Love Supreme are the transcendent things they are, but I've never once managed to determine whether or not they're better than (my deepest apologies, Mr. Clark, particularly after your kindness!) Rubber Soul or With The Beatles... What's everybody's stance on Trout Mask Replica, which does things to me similar to how Bitches Brew thrusts me violently against the headboard and in a tragic rasp of a whisper almost hypodermically injects deeply unsettling, impossibly compelling instructions as to how to ravage it for the next two-and-a-half hours, and how it'll never be more worth my time - and surpasses it completely? Or, hey, Paul's Boutique? ("he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees a ghost") I'm not even going to try with This Year's Model, or Trust, or King of America... | ||
| Jerry Clark Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 953 Registered: 08-2004 |
That Beastie Boys sound is indismissable. Though Ill Communication floats my boat more than Paul's Boutique. Hip Hop can be as objective as the Jazz-rock classics mentioned. Trout Mask Replica is completely unpenetrable. It may require some work to enjoy 'The Captain', but if the journey is so little fun, there doesn't seem much point. It's starting to make sense. After TMR John Peel found The Wedding Present to be world beaters along the lines of a U2. Now how about The Joshua Tree, or Thriller!!!? | ||
| Randy Adams Member Username: Randy_adams Post Number: 2053 Registered: 03-2005 |
Yep, you'll get a lot of agreement on this board on those two candidates, Jerry! My favorite Beefheart records have long been "Safe As Milk," "Spotlight Kid," and "Clear Spot." They are among his most accessible records. I have "Trout Mask" but, yeah, it's too far away from pop simplicity to work for me, except for "Ella Guru" and "Dachau Blues." I think that's a great example of the critics leading the listener astray. I went through a big John Coltrane thing about 10 years ago but I'm not a jazz guy. I've yet to explore Miles Davis. As far as I can tell, the jazz things that grab me the most are from the 1950s and recorded in mono. A few times in my life I walked into places and heard music that just blew me away but I was always too reticent to simply ask "what is this?" The sound was always a 1950s monophonic sound and the ensembles were always small, no more than five players at the absolute most. | ||
| Victor Edwin Prose Member Username: Victor_prose Post Number: 37 Registered: 04-2009 |
I entered the world of music Billy Joel, which is a dangerous way to start - I'm almost dangerously predisposed to judging things by melody/hook quotient, have a harder time appreciating the amelodic (or less melodic, i.e. blues-based stuff, hardcore punk) and as a result had to develop higher standards later on, and learn why those standards are important to assimilate. I still love Billy Joel's choicest moments - he's dumb, but his hooks are undeniable ("Sleeping With The Television On", for God's sake, or "Laura", or the actual hits) - but for the longest time melodic value was my only necessary credential as a listener. As such, I wasted my time on a lot of aimless traps as a kid (a lot of prog-rock, for instance, and any low-grade contemporary stuff that deigned to put in a melody here and there), and missed the point of a lot of great music (I didn't like the Rolling Stones when I first heard them, for instance, and that was with Beggars Banquet). Also, my father played so much Matthew Sweet (which I wasn't exactly listening to for Robert Quine) and Teenage Fanclub and the Hang-Ups when I was younger - bands that came from the Raspberries/Badfinger (distinctly average bands) and were funneled into Fountains of Wayne (a great one) - that I'm surprised I didn't contract juvenile diabetes. I owe it to Trout Mask Replica, which I heard on a whim and my father's suggestion when I was 11, for opening my ears up to the underground sound. It was so diametrically opposed to the sweetness & light I was accustomed to hearing and enjoying, and thus trying to seek out, that I got virtually high on the sheer aural anarchy of it all. The record was a massive f*ck you to my ears, and as such, an almost therapeutic experience - like the face-punch or bee-sting that clarifies why pain is such a necessary component in one's appreciation of life. It's one of the few "critic's albums" I didn't need somebody to tell me to like at first, and one of the few musical experiences to which I can honestly apply the term "revelation" (the others being, I dunno, "Piano Man", "Like A Rolling Stone", "Little Red Corvette", Innervisions, "Rocks Off", VU & Nico, "Welcome To The Working Week", Are You Experienced?, "Don't Worry Baby", London Calling, "Baby's On Fire", "Bachelor Kisses", uh... "The State I Am In", "Goodbye Lucille #1", The Great Twenty-Eight, "Miss Misery", "Across The Great Divide", "Love Has No Pride", "Makes No Sense At All", Enter The Wu-Tang, "Pulling Mussels From A Shell", "Tired Of Being Alone", "Rape Me", "They Told Me I Was A Fool", Avril Lavigne's "Complicated"... awfully obvious or mildly esoteric or I guess even dubious stuff, and I'm sure I've missed a handful, and I vaguely recall several words back misapplying the term "few"...). And what Trout Mask serves to remind me later in life is that anything to which the kind of praise that isn't clearly devoid of pedigree (whatever that might mean) is applied CAN be heard if one elects to really concentrate on listening. If not for a level of craft or a f*cking internal statement (I need to put that asterisk there, right?), subtle or otherwise, then for a feeling, the kind of passion-of-product that keeps music such an indelible trade. It's a rather base lesson, and I'm sure it reads like a facile one, but I was 11 at the time. And how many 11 year olds make even a remote attempt to enlighten themselves with Trout Mask Replica? | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1672 Registered: 10-2004 |
I find Trout Mask to be amusing in concept but generally unlistenable in reality. Clear Spot and Shiny Beast are both much better, imo. Dylan can suck my shlong. Give me Blonde on Blonde and Blood on the Tracks, and leave everything else at the door. Murmur is one of the single most original distinctively melodic records of the 80s, to these ears. It's been hugely influential on my own music over the years. Was I the only one who didn't think Victor was LK? By the way, I agree with above sentiments on Sleater Kinney and New Pornographers. No tunes! | ||
| Ewan Talisker McEwan Member Username: Ewan_mcewan Post Number: 570 Registered: 02-2008 |
Piano Man? Really? | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 2942 Registered: 05-2005 |
Joanna Newsome. Simply vile. The empress has no clothes on and sings like a precocious 6-year-old, but everyone just jumps on the bandwagon and proclaims her the new great thing. I don't get it. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 522 Registered: 05-2005 |
I have tried numerous times to listen to Trout Mask Replica and find it completely annoying, the work of a talentless poser and absolutely unlistenable!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1676 Registered: 10-2004 |
I agree with you about Joanna Newsom, Padraig. I think she's dreadful. Her precious cutsey-poo vocals are like nails on a blackboard. And I've got mixed feelings about her cousin, Gavin, who is mayor of San Francisco. | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1678 Registered: 10-2004 |
I should add Patti Smith, while I'm at it. And Tim Buckley. His annoying affected super-warbly vocals make Joanna Newsom sound positively angelic. | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 525 Registered: 05-2005 |
I find it odd that those who profess that they can't stand the screeching vocals of Led Zepellin RAVE about Jeff Buckley and yet they both sound the same to me! | ||
| joe Member Username: Dogmansuede Post Number: 671 Registered: 07-2006 |
what is it with girls and jeff buckley? i gave my $9 copy of grace to my sister years ago as, honestly, it never really took....and she's since bought two deluxe/reduxe editions. a mystery! | ||
| Jeff Whiteaker Member Username: Jeff_whiteaker Post Number: 1682 Registered: 10-2004 |
I can't remember Jeff Buckley's vocals, but if they're anything like his father Tim's, then no thanks! | ||
| Pádraig Collins Member Username: Pádraig_collins Post Number: 2944 Registered: 05-2005 |
Jeff Buckley didn't sound like his father but, as Geoff pointed out, did sound like Robert Plant. I think Grace is a great album and I saw him live in a club in Dublin before any of the hype about him really took off. As for Tim Buckley, I'm with Jeff. I bought one of his albums on cassette in 1992 and just ended up giving it away to someone. | ||
| Andrew Kerr Member Username: Andrew_k Post Number: 461 Registered: 04-2005 |
Like Pádraig I saw Jeff Buckley in a small club before Grace came out and it was almost a religious experience ! It was much more convincing as a live thing somehow. But I can't listen to his recordings and I detest Led Zeppelin with my soul. Not that there is really much of a musical connection/comparison but Tim is God! Looking forward to the '67 Folklore Center release. | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3246 Registered: 05-2005 |
My answer to this, is, do I care? No not really,. couldn't care less, its the kinda question I would of answered when I was 15. Yes, I'll blow up occasionally... | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 316 Registered: 10-2008 |
the winnebago orchestra | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3253 Registered: 05-2005 |
Kev, ye even wee(er) Scottish keniget ye! ;) | ||
| Michael Bachman Member Username: Michael_bachman Post Number: 1534 Registered: 01-2005 |
I'll agree with Miles Davis - Kind of Blue and John Coltrane - A Love Supreme being solid 10's. There was a short time around 1997 that I thought Sleater Kinney ruled. One More Hour still sounds pretty good to these ears, but the rest of their songs have faded. Joanna Newsome could have been The Shaggs lead singer if she would have only had more talent! | ||
| David Gagen Member Username: David_g Post Number: 253 Registered: 02-2007 |
Frank Zappa - Just dont get it. Grateful Dead - Just dont get it | ||
| spence Member Username: Spence Post Number: 3258 Registered: 05-2005 |
OK, I GIVE IN: Spiritualized. I really really don't get him, talented, no question. | ||
| andreas Member Username: Andreas Post Number: 751 Registered: 04-2006 |
it's simple: beatles and rolling stones. for sure i like much songs and can even listen to albums and singalong. but they never had much impact deep within my heart and soul. that is true and have nothing to do with to be opposite, underground and so on. | ||
| skulldisco Member Username: Skulldisco Post Number: 318 Registered: 10-2008 |
Andreas I know what you mean about The Beatles and The Stones. I didnt "get" The Stones till I was in my late 30s, now I think for a 6 or 7 year period from Beggars Banquet up to Goats Head Soup they were amongst the few untouchable bands in rock music. With my laughable punk attitude I used to think The Stones had always been a bloated,guitar w*nky, showbiz bunch of tossers. They were anything but obviously as anybody who knows the history of the band will attest to. The Beatles have always been the male Spice Girls | ||
| Geoff Holmes Member Username: Geoff Post Number: 530 Registered: 05-2005 |
...except "Complex" (old) Spice married a Witch instead of a footballer! ;) |